Hey no need for the cantankerousness on a bank holiday. Roll yourself one pal.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
The reply feature on here is worse than this government.
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Agreed
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 28 seconds ago
Hey no need for the cantankerousness on a bank holiday. Roll yourself one pal.
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Yeah. I'll do that before noon.
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 1 minute ago
Sorryankerousness*
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I'd say you're more untankerous.
Ah, sorry forgot the time zone thing, maybe that idiot label weren't so cant.........inaccurate. I'm 3 deep
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 1 minute ago
Sorryankerousness*
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I'd say you're moreuntankerous.
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Get your own material!!!
That wasn’t an invite for a crap joke. It truly is awful, so many articles are just unreadable because of the endless reply chains.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
That wasn’t an invite for a crap joke. It truly is awful, so many articles are just unreadable because of the endless reply chains.
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They may be annoying, but they're mostly readable.
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
The reply feature on here is worse than this government.
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Agreed
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Agreed, but with an aside that I can't reasonably get into any other discussion that questions your parentage.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
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Is it racism?
Could it be linked to the fact we just had a NI hike to cover our already bloated social welfare system?
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Makes sense to implement an expensive and unsustainable model to deal with asylum seekers then.
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I don't know the cost implications
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Best to just leave your post at that bit.
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Why?
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Because he's admitted he doesn't know what he is trying to argue about.
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Where did I argue it is cheaper to keep them here?
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
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Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
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This is possibly the outright stupidest question I have ever read.
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Imagine the wisdom of a person that has to ask that question. How clueless can you be? I blame the internet for giving anyone and everyone a voice so that the clueless can confidently advertise the cluelessness.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
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Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
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yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
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Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
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Then don't come to the UK, stay in one of the many countries you pass through who will hear your case?
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
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What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
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Its not me spouting opinion as fact.
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Its not an opinion. Its fact. I know what I'm talking about. You're the one with the questions and I just don't have the time to spoonfeed you right now so you can sort yourself out as the info is available.
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Its not a fact. Its your opinion. Unless you can substantiate it.
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A fact is a fact whether I can substantiate it or not.
My refusal to substantiate doesn't make it any less of a fact.
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And an opinion is an opinion until proven otherwise
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
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Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
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This is possibly the outright stupidest question I have ever read.
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Imagine the wisdom of a person that has to ask that question. How clueless can you be? I blame the internet for giving anyone and everyone a voice so that the clueless can confidently advertise the cluelessness.
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It does only take a few seconds of "If I was the asylum seeker.." then boom, it hits you.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
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Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
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yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
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Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
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Then don't come to the UK, stay in one of the many countries you pass through who will hear your case?
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The worst thing is that it wont work because ready or not refugees are taking over. Another waste of money by this government. Can't wait to see which of their mates will get the contracts.
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 38 seconds ago
Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
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It would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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Yeah, like thousands of refugees crossing the channel every few months. we want them to stop and stay in France, and it would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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🤞🏻
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is possibly the outright stupidest question I have ever read.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine the wisdom of a person that has to ask that question. How clueless can you be? I blame the internet for giving anyone and everyone a voice so that the clueless can confidently advertise the cluelessness.
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It does only take a few seconds of "If I was the asylum seeker.." then boom, it hits you.
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Yeah, most people would only have a handful of countries they'd want to go to.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
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yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
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genukne question.
What is your issue with this?
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If you cannot fathom the inhumanity of turning away asylum seekers, (the vast vast majority of who are fleeing war and persecution).
Then sending them to dentention camps 4,000 miles away in Rwanda, denying them their legal rights, preventing them from claiming asylum in the UK, there's not really much more to discuss.
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What is your issue with it though, specifically?
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My previous comments refer.
Is there a particular reason why you think its not barbaric, inhumane and probably illegal?
If you and yours had been displaced due to no fault of your own, (conflict, persecution, religious beliefs etc) and forced to flee.
How would you feel about being split up from your family, taken to a foreign country where you had no ties, no concept of its culture, language, etc forced to remain there, possibly never seeing your family again?
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Id feel safe and thankful for that.
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is possibly the outright stupidest question I have ever read.
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Imagine the wisdom of a person that has to ask that question. How clueless can you be? I blame the internet for giving anyone and everyone a voice so that the clueless can confidently advertise the cluelessness.
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The guy is the dumbest going. Oxygen thief. Not surprised.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
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If the government wad over thrown here and you had to escape to survive, went to claim asylum in the US but they shipped you to Rwanda with no hope of entry; would you care?
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No. Id been thankful someone was taking me in.
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 38 seconds ago
Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
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It would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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The post was there to answer why they come here. Not why it would be lovely to get what we all want. I believe the other reason is the language. Quite a few speak English as a a second language.
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As will those they are housed with.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 38 seconds ago
Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
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It would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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The post was there to answer why they come here. Not why it would be lovely to get what we all want. I believe the other reason is the language. Quite a few speak English as a a second language.
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As will those they are housed with.
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So what?
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posted on 14/4/22
Hey no need for the cantankerousness on a bank holiday. Roll yourself one pal.
posted on 14/4/22
Sorry ankerousness*
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
The reply feature on here is worse than this government.
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Agreed
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 28 seconds ago
Hey no need for the cantankerousness on a bank holiday. Roll yourself one pal.
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Yeah. I'll do that before noon.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 1 minute ago
Sorryankerousness*
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I'd say you're more untankerous.
posted on 14/4/22
Ah, sorry forgot the time zone thing, maybe that idiot label weren't so cant.........inaccurate. I'm 3 deep
posted on 14/4/22
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 1 minute ago
Sorryankerousness*
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I'd say you're moreuntankerous.
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Get your own material!!!
posted on 14/4/22
That wasn’t an invite for a crap joke. It truly is awful, so many articles are just unreadable because of the endless reply chains.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
That wasn’t an invite for a crap joke. It truly is awful, so many articles are just unreadable because of the endless reply chains.
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They may be annoying, but they're mostly readable.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
The reply feature on here is worse than this government.
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Agreed
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Agreed, but with an aside that I can't reasonably get into any other discussion that questions your parentage.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
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Is it racism?
Could it be linked to the fact we just had a NI hike to cover our already bloated social welfare system?
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Makes sense to implement an expensive and unsustainable model to deal with asylum seekers then.
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I don't know the cost implications
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Best to just leave your post at that bit.
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Why?
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Because he's admitted he doesn't know what he is trying to argue about.
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Where did I argue it is cheaper to keep them here?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is possibly the outright stupidest question I have ever read.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine the wisdom of a person that has to ask that question. How clueless can you be? I blame the internet for giving anyone and everyone a voice so that the clueless can confidently advertise the cluelessness.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then don't come to the UK, stay in one of the many countries you pass through who will hear your case?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
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What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
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Its not me spouting opinion as fact.
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Its not an opinion. Its fact. I know what I'm talking about. You're the one with the questions and I just don't have the time to spoonfeed you right now so you can sort yourself out as the info is available.
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Its not a fact. Its your opinion. Unless you can substantiate it.
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A fact is a fact whether I can substantiate it or not.
My refusal to substantiate doesn't make it any less of a fact.
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And an opinion is an opinion until proven otherwise
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is possibly the outright stupidest question I have ever read.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine the wisdom of a person that has to ask that question. How clueless can you be? I blame the internet for giving anyone and everyone a voice so that the clueless can confidently advertise the cluelessness.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does only take a few seconds of "If I was the asylum seeker.." then boom, it hits you.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then don't come to the UK, stay in one of the many countries you pass through who will hear your case?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The worst thing is that it wont work because ready or not refugees are taking over. Another waste of money by this government. Can't wait to see which of their mates will get the contracts.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 38 seconds ago
Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
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It would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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Yeah, like thousands of refugees crossing the channel every few months. we want them to stop and stay in France, and it would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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posted on 14/4/22
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
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To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
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Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
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This is possibly the outright stupidest question I have ever read.
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Imagine the wisdom of a person that has to ask that question. How clueless can you be? I blame the internet for giving anyone and everyone a voice so that the clueless can confidently advertise the cluelessness.
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It does only take a few seconds of "If I was the asylum seeker.." then boom, it hits you.
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Yeah, most people would only have a handful of countries they'd want to go to.
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Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
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Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
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yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
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Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
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genukne question.
What is your issue with this?
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If you cannot fathom the inhumanity of turning away asylum seekers, (the vast vast majority of who are fleeing war and persecution).
Then sending them to dentention camps 4,000 miles away in Rwanda, denying them their legal rights, preventing them from claiming asylum in the UK, there's not really much more to discuss.
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What is your issue with it though, specifically?
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My previous comments refer.
Is there a particular reason why you think its not barbaric, inhumane and probably illegal?
If you and yours had been displaced due to no fault of your own, (conflict, persecution, religious beliefs etc) and forced to flee.
How would you feel about being split up from your family, taken to a foreign country where you had no ties, no concept of its culture, language, etc forced to remain there, possibly never seeing your family again?
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Id feel safe and thankful for that.
posted on 14/4/22
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comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
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Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
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This is possibly the outright stupidest question I have ever read.
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Imagine the wisdom of a person that has to ask that question. How clueless can you be? I blame the internet for giving anyone and everyone a voice so that the clueless can confidently advertise the cluelessness.
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The guy is the dumbest going. Oxygen thief. Not surprised.
posted on 14/4/22
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
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Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
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If the government wad over thrown here and you had to escape to survive, went to claim asylum in the US but they shipped you to Rwanda with no hope of entry; would you care?
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No. Id been thankful someone was taking me in.
posted on 14/4/22
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Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
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It would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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The post was there to answer why they come here. Not why it would be lovely to get what we all want. I believe the other reason is the language. Quite a few speak English as a a second language.
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As will those they are housed with.
posted on 14/4/22
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 38 seconds ago
Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
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It would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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The post was there to answer why they come here. Not why it would be lovely to get what we all want. I believe the other reason is the language. Quite a few speak English as a a second language.
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As will those they are housed with.
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So what?
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