comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
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What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
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What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
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Its not me spouting opinion as fact.
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
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Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
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yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
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Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
comment by Dyron Daal (U1734)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
As the origin of mankind and giver to the world of all sports, universal language, and good food, we Brits should stand firm. Civilised humanity began in Britain and then spread out around the world. You cannot just come crawling back millennia later because you didn't like where your ancestors went. We Brits don't come invading your countries when we get a bit cold or whatever, why are you trying to invade ours?
Although, I wouldn't be against lining up immigrants as they got off the boat and then pointing left or right based on how fit they are to work. The fit ones get sent off to do unpaid work in exchange for a cabin to sleep in and the ones deemed not fit for work are well, we shall see what has been done in the past and see if we can come to a solution. That's the Britain I would like to see and we are getting closer.
None of them ever think to bring gifts either. We can be persuaded, but they make little effort.
Maybe a Saturday night ITV show where they try and win a place in the UK via a series of entertaining rounds? Both mentally and physically. They need to prove that they are as smart and physically fit as the average Brit.
We need to make this profitable somehow.
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particularly this:
We Brits don't come invading your countries when we get a bit cold or whatever, why are you trying to invade ours?
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
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genukne question.
What is your issue with this?
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've been to France a few times, I don't understand what horrors they are so desperately running away from that require them to come to the UK.
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The English language and culture in the UK is a big attraction as are the women who shave their armpits here!
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Yeah spoken to a few and they were most looking forward to drinking 10 pints of carling, downing zambucca’s on Saturday nights, spewing up then fighting outside kebab shops at 3am.
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You shouldn’t be making them all promises, Baz. You can’t take them all out with you.
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Says who?
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've been to France a few times, I don't understand what horrors they are so desperately running away from that require them to come to the UK.
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The English language and culture in the UK is a big attraction as are the women who shave their armpits here!
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Yeah spoken to a few and they were most looking forward to drinking 10 pints of carling, downing zambucca’s on Saturday nights, spewing up then fighting outside kebab shops at 3am.
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Isnt it odd how using stereotypical typcasts Is fine when its the Brits, but offensive when done to anybody else
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Its not true that using stereotypical typcasts is fine when its the Brits, but offensive when done to anybody else. And even if it was that's because history has an impact on modern life, even though it would need to be addressed as it wouldn't be fair.
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Really
I dont get the fuss about all this.
They are being kept in a safe country until their claim is heard, its just not Britain.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
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Is it racism?
Could it be linked to the fact we just had a NI hike to cover our already bloated social welfare system?
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Makes sense to implement an expensive and unsustainable model to deal with asylum seekers then.
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I don't know the cost implications
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Best to just leave your post at that bit.
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Why?
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Because he's admitted he doesn't know what he is trying to argue about.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
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yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
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genukne question.
What is your issue with this?
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If you cannot fathom the inhumanity of turning away asylum seekers, (the vast vast majority of who are fleeing war and persecution).
Then sending them to dentention camps 4,000 miles away in Rwanda, denying them their legal rights, preventing them from claiming asylum in the UK, there's not really much more to discuss.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 13 minutes ago
Tamwolf
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Don is a good example of what I was talking about.
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Dyron Daal (U1734)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
As the origin of mankind and giver to the world of all sports, universal language, and good food, we Brits should stand firm. Civilised humanity began in Britain and then spread out around the world. You cannot just come crawling back millennia later because you didn't like where your ancestors went. We Brits don't come invading your countries when we get a bit cold or whatever, why are you trying to invade ours?
Although, I wouldn't be against lining up immigrants as they got off the boat and then pointing left or right based on how fit they are to work. The fit ones get sent off to do unpaid work in exchange for a cabin to sleep in and the ones deemed not fit for work are well, we shall see what has been done in the past and see if we can come to a solution. That's the Britain I would like to see and we are getting closer.
None of them ever think to bring gifts either. We can be persuaded, but they make little effort.
Maybe a Saturday night ITV show where they try and win a place in the UK via a series of entertaining rounds? Both mentally and physically. They need to prove that they are as smart and physically fit as the average Brit.
We need to make this profitable somehow.
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particularly this:
We Brits don't come invading your countries when we get a bit cold or whatever, why are you trying to invade ours?
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Its usually not thus easy to recognise sarcasm in print.
When exactly did you Brits stop invading countries?
Genuine question, where are they going accommodate them all, In a Hotel, Rwanda?
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 13 minutes ago
Tamwolf
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Don is a good example of what I was talking about.
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I’ve not seen his comments, I finally gave in and filtered him, but I know the crap he spouts.
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 13 minutes ago
Tamwolf
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Don is a good example of what I was talking about.
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Haven’t read a lot of the thread, but if the words ‘offspring of the unfortunate mating between a cooktop clock and a turnip’ were mentioned then yes, Don (rdd) is a great example.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
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What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
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Its not me spouting opinion as fact.
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Its not an opinion. Its fact. I know what I'm talking about. You're the one with the questions and I just don't have the time to spoonfeed you right now so you can sort yourself out as the info is available.
We'll know isf this story has got any legs if Uber and Deliveroo open offices in Kigali sometime soon.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
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yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
genukne question.
What is your issue with this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you cannot fathom the inhumanity of turning away asylum seekers, (the vast vast majority of who are fleeing war and persecution).
Then sending them to dentention camps 4,000 miles away in Rwanda, denying them their legal rights, preventing them from claiming asylum in the UK, there's not really much more to discuss.
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What is your issue with it though, specifically?
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
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What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
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Its not me spouting opinion as fact.
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Its not an opinion. Its fact. I know what I'm talking about. You're the one with the questions and I just don't have the time to spoonfeed you right now so you can sort yourself out as the info is available.
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Its not a fact. Its your opinion. Unless you can substantiate it.
Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
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Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 38 seconds ago
Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
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It would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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posted on 14/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
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What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
posted on 14/4/22
Tamwolf
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
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Its not me spouting opinion as fact.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Dyron Daal (U1734)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
As the origin of mankind and giver to the world of all sports, universal language, and good food, we Brits should stand firm. Civilised humanity began in Britain and then spread out around the world. You cannot just come crawling back millennia later because you didn't like where your ancestors went. We Brits don't come invading your countries when we get a bit cold or whatever, why are you trying to invade ours?
Although, I wouldn't be against lining up immigrants as they got off the boat and then pointing left or right based on how fit they are to work. The fit ones get sent off to do unpaid work in exchange for a cabin to sleep in and the ones deemed not fit for work are well, we shall see what has been done in the past and see if we can come to a solution. That's the Britain I would like to see and we are getting closer.
None of them ever think to bring gifts either. We can be persuaded, but they make little effort.
Maybe a Saturday night ITV show where they try and win a place in the UK via a series of entertaining rounds? Both mentally and physically. They need to prove that they are as smart and physically fit as the average Brit.
We need to make this profitable somehow.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
particularly this:
We Brits don't come invading your countries when we get a bit cold or whatever, why are you trying to invade ours?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
genukne question.
What is your issue with this?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've been to France a few times, I don't understand what horrors they are so desperately running away from that require them to come to the UK.
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The English language and culture in the UK is a big attraction as are the women who shave their armpits here!
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Yeah spoken to a few and they were most looking forward to drinking 10 pints of carling, downing zambucca’s on Saturday nights, spewing up then fighting outside kebab shops at 3am.
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You shouldn’t be making them all promises, Baz. You can’t take them all out with you.
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Says who?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've been to France a few times, I don't understand what horrors they are so desperately running away from that require them to come to the UK.
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The English language and culture in the UK is a big attraction as are the women who shave their armpits here!
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Yeah spoken to a few and they were most looking forward to drinking 10 pints of carling, downing zambucca’s on Saturday nights, spewing up then fighting outside kebab shops at 3am.
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Isnt it odd how using stereotypical typcasts Is fine when its the Brits, but offensive when done to anybody else
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Its not true that using stereotypical typcasts is fine when its the Brits, but offensive when done to anybody else. And even if it was that's because history has an impact on modern life, even though it would need to be addressed as it wouldn't be fair.
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Really
posted on 14/4/22
I dont get the fuss about all this.
They are being kept in a safe country until their claim is heard, its just not Britain.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it racism?
Could it be linked to the fact we just had a NI hike to cover our already bloated social welfare system?
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Makes sense to implement an expensive and unsustainable model to deal with asylum seekers then.
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I don't know the cost implications
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Best to just leave your post at that bit.
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Why?
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Because he's admitted he doesn't know what he is trying to argue about.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
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genukne question.
What is your issue with this?
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If you cannot fathom the inhumanity of turning away asylum seekers, (the vast vast majority of who are fleeing war and persecution).
Then sending them to dentention camps 4,000 miles away in Rwanda, denying them their legal rights, preventing them from claiming asylum in the UK, there's not really much more to discuss.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 13 minutes ago
Tamwolf
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Don is a good example of what I was talking about.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Dyron Daal (U1734)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
As the origin of mankind and giver to the world of all sports, universal language, and good food, we Brits should stand firm. Civilised humanity began in Britain and then spread out around the world. You cannot just come crawling back millennia later because you didn't like where your ancestors went. We Brits don't come invading your countries when we get a bit cold or whatever, why are you trying to invade ours?
Although, I wouldn't be against lining up immigrants as they got off the boat and then pointing left or right based on how fit they are to work. The fit ones get sent off to do unpaid work in exchange for a cabin to sleep in and the ones deemed not fit for work are well, we shall see what has been done in the past and see if we can come to a solution. That's the Britain I would like to see and we are getting closer.
None of them ever think to bring gifts either. We can be persuaded, but they make little effort.
Maybe a Saturday night ITV show where they try and win a place in the UK via a series of entertaining rounds? Both mentally and physically. They need to prove that they are as smart and physically fit as the average Brit.
We need to make this profitable somehow.
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particularly this:
We Brits don't come invading your countries when we get a bit cold or whatever, why are you trying to invade ours?
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Its usually not thus easy to recognise sarcasm in print.
When exactly did you Brits stop invading countries?
posted on 14/4/22
Genuine question, where are they going accommodate them all, In a Hotel, Rwanda?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 13 minutes ago
Tamwolf
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Don is a good example of what I was talking about.
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I’ve not seen his comments, I finally gave in and filtered him, but I know the crap he spouts.
posted on 14/4/22
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 13 minutes ago
Tamwolf
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Don is a good example of what I was talking about.
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Haven’t read a lot of the thread, but if the words ‘offspring of the unfortunate mating between a cooktop clock and a turnip’ were mentioned then yes, Don (rdd) is a great example.
posted on 14/4/22
Cuckoo*
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
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What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
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Its not me spouting opinion as fact.
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Its not an opinion. Its fact. I know what I'm talking about. You're the one with the questions and I just don't have the time to spoonfeed you right now so you can sort yourself out as the info is available.
posted on 14/4/22
We'll know isf this story has got any legs if Uber and Deliveroo open offices in Kigali sometime soon.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
Ultimately, we all know what the problem is.
Its racism.
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Yet they strike a deal with a black country?
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yes, of course. Why would racism stop them from doing that?
Also, Rwanda wasn't their first choice. They've had to settle for Rwanda after everyone else told them to fack off with their racist sheeeet.
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Israel had a scheme from 2014 to 2017 when around 4,000 migrants were deported to Rwanda. Only nine remained and many others were smuggled, trafficked back to Europe.
https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1514564192526905345?t=ZdKpX_udiKDLb_9_ZfrScQ&s=19
According to the arrangement the:
"objective of this Arrangement is to create a mechanism for the relocation of asylum seekers whose claims are not being considered by the United Kingdom, to Rwanda, which will process their claims and settle or remove (as appropriate) individuals.
Ergo asylum seekers will not be relocated to the UK (even if they have a valid claim).
"migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies"
And as per existing policy it will be practically impossible to asylum seekers to gain access to legal counsel to challenge and get to the UK.
And anyone who is successful will be repatriated in Rwanda.
Utterly reprehensible.
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genukne question.
What is your issue with this?
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If you cannot fathom the inhumanity of turning away asylum seekers, (the vast vast majority of who are fleeing war and persecution).
Then sending them to dentention camps 4,000 miles away in Rwanda, denying them their legal rights, preventing them from claiming asylum in the UK, there's not really much more to discuss.
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What is your issue with it though, specifically?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And outsourcing asylum seekers cannot be cheaper than housing them. Fack me.
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What are the costs of housing / keeping them?
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Can't be assed with that right now tbh. got other things to do at the mo. If you're so interested then why don't you do the research?
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Its not me spouting opinion as fact.
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Its not an opinion. Its fact. I know what I'm talking about. You're the one with the questions and I just don't have the time to spoonfeed you right now so you can sort yourself out as the info is available.
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Its not a fact. Its your opinion. Unless you can substantiate it.
posted on 14/4/22
Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
posted on 14/4/22
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
To clarify this is not about processing asylum claims so successful seekers can then return to the UK having been granted refugee status.
But deporting people to Rwanda where, if successful, they'll be expected to start/build a new future there whether they want to or not.
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Do genuine asylum seekers care where they are given asylum?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 38 seconds ago
Why do migrants leave France for the UK?
In the few studies that exist, family ties have been identified as the main reason migrants wish to travel from France to the UK.
In a survey of 402 people at the former Calais "Jungle" camp, researchers from the International Health journal found only 12% wanted to remain in France, while 82% planned to go to England.
Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.
"They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
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It would be lovely if we all got what we wanted. Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
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