comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
Devonshire you've pretty much just pointed out exactly why political debate is just so pointless in our society.
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And yet I don't see you responding to polite, factual challenges to your statements.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
There's a global cost of living crisis caused by a mammoth pandemic and a huge war. Do you disagree that they are the two main factors?
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Those are both major challenges, and ones that as a country we would be better placed to face if we hadn't:
1) had a decade + of ideologically driven austerity policies that have reduced investment in key sectors and essential services, driven up deprivation levels and seen the gap between rich and poor further widen, and...
2) opted for a Brexit settlement at the extreme end of the spectrum, creating significant trade barriers with our biggest import/export market and starving the economy of access to skills at a time of looming labour shortages, and...
3) dithered about lockdowns based on a false dichotomy between public health vs the economy, resulting in higher death rates, longer lockdowns and greater economic damage from Covid. And then repeating the logic error twice more with 'Eat out to help out' and Christmas 2020. Not to mention billions wasted through opaque PPE procurement benefiting ministers' mates.
It's really a stretch to frame the problems we face today as entirely acts of god. As a country, we're in the predicament we deserve to be in.
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 21 seconds ago
There's a global cost of living crisis caused by a mammoth pandemic and a huge war. Do you disagree that they are the two main factors?
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Those are both major challenges, and ones that as a country we would be better placed to face if we hadn't:
1) had a decade + of ideologically driven austerity policies that have reduced investment in key sectors and essential services, driven up deprivation levels and seen the gap between rich and poor further widen, and...
2) opted for a Brexit settlement at the extreme end of the spectrum, creating significant trade barriers with our biggest import/export market and starving the economy of access to skills at a time of looming labour shortages, and...
3) dithered about lockdowns based on a false dichotomy between public health vs the economy, resulting in higher death rates, longer lockdowns and greater economic damage from Covid. And then repeating the logic error twice more with 'Eat out to help out' and Christmas 2020. Not to mention billions wasted through opaque PPE procurement benefiting ministers' mates.
It's really a stretch to frame the problems we face today as entirely acts of god. As a country, we're in the predicament we deserve to be in.
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Predicament England deserves to be in. We just get burdened with England's poor choices
comment by Kosta’s Kofta (U22339)
posted 1 minute ago
The man has filled his cabinet with a bunch of useless t0ssers for a reason. None of them are capable of stepping up and challenging him.
Rishi polled quite high but someone leaked details of his wife’s tax affairs which killed any momentum he had. Boris is with us until the next GE
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This I absolutely agree with.
comment by Kosta’s Kofta (U22339)
posted 1 minute ago
The man has filled his cabinet with a bunch of useless t0ssers for a reason. None of them are capable of stepping up and challenging him.
Rishi polled quite high but someone leaked details of his wife’s tax affairs which killed any momentum he had. Boris is with us until the next GE
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The Tories would never have an Asian in charge I don't think.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
Devonshire you've pretty much just pointed out exactly why political debate is just so pointless in our society.
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And yet I don't see you responding to polite, factual challenges to your statements.
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He’s a Tory. Don’t expect him to not act like one.
Boris isn’t going in g to lose the vote but he will lose the next election.
Let’s hope Labour can come up with something between now and then.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
There's a global cost of living crisis caused by a mammoth pandemic and a huge war. Do you disagree that they are the two main factors?
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Those are both major challenges, and ones that as a country we would be better placed to face if we hadn't:
1) had a decade + of ideologically driven austerity policies that have reduced investment in key sectors and essential services, driven up deprivation levels and seen the gap between rich and poor further widen, and...
2) opted for a Brexit settlement at the extreme end of the spectrum, creating significant trade barriers with our biggest import/export market and starving the economy of access to skills at a time of looming labour shortages, and...
3) dithered about lockdowns based on a false dichotomy between public health vs the economy, resulting in higher death rates, longer lockdowns and greater economic damage from Covid. And then repeating the logic error twice more with 'Eat out to help out' and Christmas 2020. Not to mention billions wasted through opaque PPE procurement benefiting ministers' mates.
It's really a stretch to frame the problems we face today as entirely acts of god. As a country, we're in the predicament we deserve to be in.
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Ok let me ask you some questions on your points, which I think are good ones and you're clearly better researched than me.
You mention how austerity was/is ideological. Mind expanding on that a little? The country was in financial ruin with an ever expanding budget deficit causing debt to skyrocket. If you don't expect us to cut back on public spending, how would you intend on balancing the books? Not a prejudiced question at all, just curious to know your thoughts.
When it comes to Brexit, I agree entirely with you. IMO the public were not informed enough to make such an enormous decision and then we've ran with the most extreme version of it. It's given the voters what they wanted, to be fair, but what they wanted is nonsense.
I don't know that in peacetime whether there has ever been a more difficult decision to make than to throw the public into a lockdown. This is a decision that has such a drastic impact on both the economy but also the rights and freedoms of a population that I'm glad it wasn't a snap decision and was only enacted when we are absolutely sure it would have made a difference.
Not going to argue with you about PPE and some of the "contracts" they arranged, that was a complete farce.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
Devonshire you've pretty much just pointed out exactly why political debate is just so pointless in our society.
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And yet I don't see you responding to polite, factual challenges to your statements.
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I did just respond to you in fairness
I think it will get even worse for Johnson. Every day more of the damage his brexit deal is doing is revealed. Only so many things they can blame before people realise the truth
comment by Citizen Smeg. Joined the spurs tinted glasses club. Nothing wrong here. (U6574)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think it will get even worse for Johnson. Every day more of the damage his brexit deal is doing is revealed. Only so many things they can blame before people realise the truth
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I wouldn’t underestimate the stupidity of the British public.
My guess is that Boris stays even though, probably, most of his party think he's appalling and a liability.
The problem is none of them want the hot seat right now ... no one stands out as the alternate leader of that party and/or the country. Appalling state of affairs in this country politically right now. Wouldn't trust any of them to be honest.
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comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
Do people still believe that Labour caused the US subprime mortgage crises, which lead to the GFC or something?
It's difficult to argue if someone is blinkered enough to believe something so ridiculous.
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Some don’t even know what a subprime mortgage is, but will happily rant on about Gordon Brown bankrupting the country mate.
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But people rant about the current state of the country because Tories are "evil" when Covid is a huge part of why the country is facked.
How can the Labour party be absolved, and the Tory party be completely at fault?
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I’m not sure exactly what you’re suggesting people are trying to absolve the Labour Party of or blame the Tories for. The respective states of the economy under their stewardships specifically?
I don’t think there are many people whose principal line of attack against this government has been the economic bottom line. If you ask people why they’re fed up of the Tories, polling demonstrates that there’s an historic lack of trust in what they actually tell people: basically, they’re recognised as a cabal of liars.
They’ve lied to their colleagues, they’ve lied to the public, they’ve brazenly broken parliamentary rules without fear of repercussion, they’ve been found to have broken the law and to have otherwise acted unlawfully, and they’ve consistently suppressed reports and withheld information the public is entitled, by law, to see.
Beyond that there’s the creeping authoritarianism which has seen law after law strip powers away from the judiciary, from Parliament, from the civil service and from the public, and placed it in the hands of the government fundamentally undermining the democratic system.
There’s the Brexit deal - an incredible deal Boris told us - which is going to do more damage to the UK economy than COVID-19 and likely 2008 in itself. That is destroying exporting UK SMEs. That has undermined the Union. That has stripped rights to work and study from a generation of young Brits. That has generated massive and costly inefficiencies across industry. That has led to staff shortages across supply chains. That has driven prices up for consumers.
There’s the disregard shown for the people they are supposed to represent: “get a second job”, “let the bodies pile high”, £50 can provide 50 meals for a family, “chaaavs, losers, burglars and drug addicts”, “uppity and irresponsible women”, etc. etc.
Then there’s the delivery of millions and millions and millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money to their friends and donors via the unlawful award of contracts during the pandemic.
Then there’s the absolute hash they made of public health management throughout the COVID-19 crisis outside of the vaccine roll out.
Then there’s the refusal to investigate tens of billions in corporate and tax fraud, or to investigate price gouging as energy and fuel prices soar whilst energy and fuel companies return record profits and buy back tens of billions in stock; this whilst they cut basic benefits to a level which has seen thousands of primary school kids routinely eat one meal per day and food bank use explode.
Then there’s their responses to the Grenfell tragedy and Windrush scandals.
The attacks on the BBC and C4 by the most ill-informed Culture Secretary in ministerial history, lobbying and donor scandals, Rwanda…
I mean, it just goes on and on and on.
I’d personally go for Jeremy Hunt as the next UK PM. Hardly the most inspiring choice ever but surely the best of a bad bunch?
Like his North Korean counterpart, Dim John Son is morally and politically bankrupt.
And they both have silly haircuts.
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 49 seconds ago
I think confidence votes in general are ridiculous. The public votes in general elections on the understanding they are voting for someone for 5 years. Frankly fed up with neverending votes, we could be on for 4 general elections in 7 years if the confidence vote defeats Boris, when it should be 4 in 15, absolutely ridiculous.
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Whilst somewhat true, voters vote for a parliament. Its then up to parliament to form a government.
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Kosta’s Kofta (U22339)
posted 1 minute ago
The man has filled his cabinet with a bunch of useless t0ssers for a reason. None of them are capable of stepping up and challenging him.
Rishi polled quite high but someone leaked details of his wife’s tax affairs which killed any momentum he had. Boris is with us until the next GE
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The Tories would never have an Asian in charge I don't think.
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You think wrong and it's quite something coming from 0 female Prime Ministers Labour. Labour is a conveyor belt of Hitler youth poster child leaders. Rishi would have been next in line if not for damaging leaks. Whether he would make a good PM, I don't think he is, is another matter.
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I think wrong about something that hasn't happened do I?
this guy.
comment by Robert Paulson (U22716)
posted 39 seconds ago
I’d personally go for Jeremy Hunt as the next UK PM. Hardly the most inspiring choice ever but surely the best of a bad bunch?
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The man who dismantled the NHS?
No thanks.
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 2 seconds ago
I think confidence votes in general are ridiculous. The public votes in general elections on the understanding they are voting for someone for 5 years. Frankly fed up with neverending votes, we could be on for 4 general elections in 7 years if the confidence vote defeats Boris, when it should be 4 in 15, absolutely ridiculous.
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The public isn’t voting in a presidential election.
They vote to elect a local representative, who may or may not be affiliated with a political party.
A party achieving a representative majority in the Commons has the right to choose a leader - by any means they see fit - to head their government.
The public has fack all to do with the choice of Boris as PM, or as leader of the Conservative Party.
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comment by Robert Paulson (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I’d personally go for Jeremy Hunt as the next UK PM. Hardly the most inspiring choice ever but surely the best of a bad bunch?
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We may as well put Britain in the bin if so. Reportedly simply not very bright, which is very believable.
I could see someone like Mercer or Wallace though.
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think confidence votes in general are ridiculous. The public votes in general elections on the understanding they are voting for someone for 5 years. Frankly fed up with neverending votes, we could be on for 4 general elections in 7 years if the confidence vote defeats Boris, when it should be 4 in 15, absolutely ridiculous.
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People also vote on the understanding that ministerial code should be respected.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Kosta’s Kofta (U22339)
posted 1 minute ago
The man has filled his cabinet with a bunch of useless t0ssers for a reason. None of them are capable of stepping up and challenging him.
Rishi polled quite high but someone leaked details of his wife’s tax affairs which killed any momentum he had. Boris is with us until the next GE
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The Tories would never have an Asian in charge I don't think.
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You think wrong and it's quite something coming from 0 female Prime Ministers Labour. Labour is a conveyor belt of Hitler youth poster child leaders. Rishi would have been next in line if not for damaging leaks. Whether he would make a good PM, I don't think he is, is another matter.
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I think wrong about something that hasn't happened do I?
this guy.
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In fairness, Tory voters would have had Rishi in a heartbeat, Boris knew that hence the leaks.
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comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
Devonshire you've pretty much just pointed out exactly why political debate is just so pointless in our society.
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And yet I don't see you responding to polite, factual challenges to your statements.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
There's a global cost of living crisis caused by a mammoth pandemic and a huge war. Do you disagree that they are the two main factors?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are both major challenges, and ones that as a country we would be better placed to face if we hadn't:
1) had a decade + of ideologically driven austerity policies that have reduced investment in key sectors and essential services, driven up deprivation levels and seen the gap between rich and poor further widen, and...
2) opted for a Brexit settlement at the extreme end of the spectrum, creating significant trade barriers with our biggest import/export market and starving the economy of access to skills at a time of looming labour shortages, and...
3) dithered about lockdowns based on a false dichotomy between public health vs the economy, resulting in higher death rates, longer lockdowns and greater economic damage from Covid. And then repeating the logic error twice more with 'Eat out to help out' and Christmas 2020. Not to mention billions wasted through opaque PPE procurement benefiting ministers' mates.
It's really a stretch to frame the problems we face today as entirely acts of god. As a country, we're in the predicament we deserve to be in.
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posted on 6/6/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 21 seconds ago
There's a global cost of living crisis caused by a mammoth pandemic and a huge war. Do you disagree that they are the two main factors?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are both major challenges, and ones that as a country we would be better placed to face if we hadn't:
1) had a decade + of ideologically driven austerity policies that have reduced investment in key sectors and essential services, driven up deprivation levels and seen the gap between rich and poor further widen, and...
2) opted for a Brexit settlement at the extreme end of the spectrum, creating significant trade barriers with our biggest import/export market and starving the economy of access to skills at a time of looming labour shortages, and...
3) dithered about lockdowns based on a false dichotomy between public health vs the economy, resulting in higher death rates, longer lockdowns and greater economic damage from Covid. And then repeating the logic error twice more with 'Eat out to help out' and Christmas 2020. Not to mention billions wasted through opaque PPE procurement benefiting ministers' mates.
It's really a stretch to frame the problems we face today as entirely acts of god. As a country, we're in the predicament we deserve to be in.
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Predicament England deserves to be in. We just get burdened with England's poor choices
posted on 6/6/22
comment by Kosta’s Kofta (U22339)
posted 1 minute ago
The man has filled his cabinet with a bunch of useless t0ssers for a reason. None of them are capable of stepping up and challenging him.
Rishi polled quite high but someone leaked details of his wife’s tax affairs which killed any momentum he had. Boris is with us until the next GE
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This I absolutely agree with.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by Kosta’s Kofta (U22339)
posted 1 minute ago
The man has filled his cabinet with a bunch of useless t0ssers for a reason. None of them are capable of stepping up and challenging him.
Rishi polled quite high but someone leaked details of his wife’s tax affairs which killed any momentum he had. Boris is with us until the next GE
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The Tories would never have an Asian in charge I don't think.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
Devonshire you've pretty much just pointed out exactly why political debate is just so pointless in our society.
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And yet I don't see you responding to polite, factual challenges to your statements.
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He’s a Tory. Don’t expect him to not act like one.
posted on 6/6/22
Boris isn’t going in g to lose the vote but he will lose the next election.
Let’s hope Labour can come up with something between now and then.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
There's a global cost of living crisis caused by a mammoth pandemic and a huge war. Do you disagree that they are the two main factors?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are both major challenges, and ones that as a country we would be better placed to face if we hadn't:
1) had a decade + of ideologically driven austerity policies that have reduced investment in key sectors and essential services, driven up deprivation levels and seen the gap between rich and poor further widen, and...
2) opted for a Brexit settlement at the extreme end of the spectrum, creating significant trade barriers with our biggest import/export market and starving the economy of access to skills at a time of looming labour shortages, and...
3) dithered about lockdowns based on a false dichotomy between public health vs the economy, resulting in higher death rates, longer lockdowns and greater economic damage from Covid. And then repeating the logic error twice more with 'Eat out to help out' and Christmas 2020. Not to mention billions wasted through opaque PPE procurement benefiting ministers' mates.
It's really a stretch to frame the problems we face today as entirely acts of god. As a country, we're in the predicament we deserve to be in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok let me ask you some questions on your points, which I think are good ones and you're clearly better researched than me.
You mention how austerity was/is ideological. Mind expanding on that a little? The country was in financial ruin with an ever expanding budget deficit causing debt to skyrocket. If you don't expect us to cut back on public spending, how would you intend on balancing the books? Not a prejudiced question at all, just curious to know your thoughts.
When it comes to Brexit, I agree entirely with you. IMO the public were not informed enough to make such an enormous decision and then we've ran with the most extreme version of it. It's given the voters what they wanted, to be fair, but what they wanted is nonsense.
I don't know that in peacetime whether there has ever been a more difficult decision to make than to throw the public into a lockdown. This is a decision that has such a drastic impact on both the economy but also the rights and freedoms of a population that I'm glad it wasn't a snap decision and was only enacted when we are absolutely sure it would have made a difference.
Not going to argue with you about PPE and some of the "contracts" they arranged, that was a complete farce.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
Devonshire you've pretty much just pointed out exactly why political debate is just so pointless in our society.
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And yet I don't see you responding to polite, factual challenges to your statements.
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I did just respond to you in fairness
posted on 6/6/22
I think it will get even worse for Johnson. Every day more of the damage his brexit deal is doing is revealed. Only so many things they can blame before people realise the truth
posted on 6/6/22
comment by Citizen Smeg. Joined the spurs tinted glasses club. Nothing wrong here. (U6574)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think it will get even worse for Johnson. Every day more of the damage his brexit deal is doing is revealed. Only so many things they can blame before people realise the truth
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I wouldn’t underestimate the stupidity of the British public.
posted on 6/6/22
My guess is that Boris stays even though, probably, most of his party think he's appalling and a liability.
The problem is none of them want the hot seat right now ... no one stands out as the alternate leader of that party and/or the country. Appalling state of affairs in this country politically right now. Wouldn't trust any of them to be honest.
posted on 6/6/22
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posted on 6/6/22
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
Do people still believe that Labour caused the US subprime mortgage crises, which lead to the GFC or something?
It's difficult to argue if someone is blinkered enough to believe something so ridiculous.
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Some don’t even know what a subprime mortgage is, but will happily rant on about Gordon Brown bankrupting the country mate.
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But people rant about the current state of the country because Tories are "evil" when Covid is a huge part of why the country is facked.
How can the Labour party be absolved, and the Tory party be completely at fault?
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I’m not sure exactly what you’re suggesting people are trying to absolve the Labour Party of or blame the Tories for. The respective states of the economy under their stewardships specifically?
I don’t think there are many people whose principal line of attack against this government has been the economic bottom line. If you ask people why they’re fed up of the Tories, polling demonstrates that there’s an historic lack of trust in what they actually tell people: basically, they’re recognised as a cabal of liars.
They’ve lied to their colleagues, they’ve lied to the public, they’ve brazenly broken parliamentary rules without fear of repercussion, they’ve been found to have broken the law and to have otherwise acted unlawfully, and they’ve consistently suppressed reports and withheld information the public is entitled, by law, to see.
Beyond that there’s the creeping authoritarianism which has seen law after law strip powers away from the judiciary, from Parliament, from the civil service and from the public, and placed it in the hands of the government fundamentally undermining the democratic system.
There’s the Brexit deal - an incredible deal Boris told us - which is going to do more damage to the UK economy than COVID-19 and likely 2008 in itself. That is destroying exporting UK SMEs. That has undermined the Union. That has stripped rights to work and study from a generation of young Brits. That has generated massive and costly inefficiencies across industry. That has led to staff shortages across supply chains. That has driven prices up for consumers.
There’s the disregard shown for the people they are supposed to represent: “get a second job”, “let the bodies pile high”, £50 can provide 50 meals for a family, “chaaavs, losers, burglars and drug addicts”, “uppity and irresponsible women”, etc. etc.
Then there’s the delivery of millions and millions and millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money to their friends and donors via the unlawful award of contracts during the pandemic.
Then there’s the absolute hash they made of public health management throughout the COVID-19 crisis outside of the vaccine roll out.
Then there’s the refusal to investigate tens of billions in corporate and tax fraud, or to investigate price gouging as energy and fuel prices soar whilst energy and fuel companies return record profits and buy back tens of billions in stock; this whilst they cut basic benefits to a level which has seen thousands of primary school kids routinely eat one meal per day and food bank use explode.
Then there’s their responses to the Grenfell tragedy and Windrush scandals.
The attacks on the BBC and C4 by the most ill-informed Culture Secretary in ministerial history, lobbying and donor scandals, Rwanda…
I mean, it just goes on and on and on.
posted on 6/6/22
I’d personally go for Jeremy Hunt as the next UK PM. Hardly the most inspiring choice ever but surely the best of a bad bunch?
posted on 6/6/22
Like his North Korean counterpart, Dim John Son is morally and politically bankrupt.
And they both have silly haircuts.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 49 seconds ago
I think confidence votes in general are ridiculous. The public votes in general elections on the understanding they are voting for someone for 5 years. Frankly fed up with neverending votes, we could be on for 4 general elections in 7 years if the confidence vote defeats Boris, when it should be 4 in 15, absolutely ridiculous.
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Whilst somewhat true, voters vote for a parliament. Its then up to parliament to form a government.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Kosta’s Kofta (U22339)
posted 1 minute ago
The man has filled his cabinet with a bunch of useless t0ssers for a reason. None of them are capable of stepping up and challenging him.
Rishi polled quite high but someone leaked details of his wife’s tax affairs which killed any momentum he had. Boris is with us until the next GE
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The Tories would never have an Asian in charge I don't think.
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You think wrong and it's quite something coming from 0 female Prime Ministers Labour. Labour is a conveyor belt of Hitler youth poster child leaders. Rishi would have been next in line if not for damaging leaks. Whether he would make a good PM, I don't think he is, is another matter.
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I think wrong about something that hasn't happened do I?
this guy.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by Robert Paulson (U22716)
posted 39 seconds ago
I’d personally go for Jeremy Hunt as the next UK PM. Hardly the most inspiring choice ever but surely the best of a bad bunch?
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The man who dismantled the NHS?
No thanks.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 2 seconds ago
I think confidence votes in general are ridiculous. The public votes in general elections on the understanding they are voting for someone for 5 years. Frankly fed up with neverending votes, we could be on for 4 general elections in 7 years if the confidence vote defeats Boris, when it should be 4 in 15, absolutely ridiculous.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The public isn’t voting in a presidential election.
They vote to elect a local representative, who may or may not be affiliated with a political party.
A party achieving a representative majority in the Commons has the right to choose a leader - by any means they see fit - to head their government.
The public has fack all to do with the choice of Boris as PM, or as leader of the Conservative Party.
posted on 6/6/22
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posted on 6/6/22
comment by Robert Paulson (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I’d personally go for Jeremy Hunt as the next UK PM. Hardly the most inspiring choice ever but surely the best of a bad bunch?
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We may as well put Britain in the bin if so. Reportedly simply not very bright, which is very believable.
I could see someone like Mercer or Wallace though.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think confidence votes in general are ridiculous. The public votes in general elections on the understanding they are voting for someone for 5 years. Frankly fed up with neverending votes, we could be on for 4 general elections in 7 years if the confidence vote defeats Boris, when it should be 4 in 15, absolutely ridiculous.
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People also vote on the understanding that ministerial code should be respected.
posted on 6/6/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by tcruel87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Kosta’s Kofta (U22339)
posted 1 minute ago
The man has filled his cabinet with a bunch of useless t0ssers for a reason. None of them are capable of stepping up and challenging him.
Rishi polled quite high but someone leaked details of his wife’s tax affairs which killed any momentum he had. Boris is with us until the next GE
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The Tories would never have an Asian in charge I don't think.
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You think wrong and it's quite something coming from 0 female Prime Ministers Labour. Labour is a conveyor belt of Hitler youth poster child leaders. Rishi would have been next in line if not for damaging leaks. Whether he would make a good PM, I don't think he is, is another matter.
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I think wrong about something that hasn't happened do I?
this guy.
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In fairness, Tory voters would have had Rishi in a heartbeat, Boris knew that hence the leaks.
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