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England's men are at the equilibrium that foreign investment in the PL has brought. They need to win something now before English players become even more of a bit part within the PL.
The top English teams have one or two good English players who currently have the benefit of playing with world class foreign players and being coached by world class foreign managers. Now is the time for them to reap all of these benefits.
Just a few years ago, the top players at the top clubs were English. You had Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney etc. Now you have whatever a Grealish is for £100m and an inanimate object in Maguire playing for Man Utd for £85m or whatever. All of the top players are foreign and English players just get squeezed in due to quotas.
Within a few years, English players will be playing an even lesser role at big clubs and even worse English players will be hyped up and bought for £150m due to quotas of English players needed (not due to their ability).
What is a Nathan Ake and why is it at Man City?
Whilst there is still a balance, and the PL is still vaguely sort of English, England need to win something.
There may come a point where money talks and there doesn't need to be English players in the PL anymore. Why would Saudis need Ben Mee in their team when they could have a world class foreign player?
Anyway, it does look like now or never for England.
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I'm not sure that's necessarily true as they've been banging that drum for decades now and we've got a young squad of truly talented players now in the England set up. If players are good enough, they'll come through, like Foden at City, for example.
Anyway, not sure what all this has to do with the women's game.
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I was going to say that England women winning it is more of an achievement as the men are currently benefiting from playing with world class players and being coaches by world class managers due to foreign money in the PL.
Yes, you mention Phil Foden, he is one decent player in a Man City team with players better than him. He is hardly De Bruyne. Sancho hardly getting a game for a mid table United side.
Maybe what works well for them at an international level is that they get on better because there is no rivalry between them at club level because they barely play and the club matches are now soulless anyway.
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It's not more of an achievement as the England women are playing against equally poor teams. It's a level playing field. It has nothing to do with good coaching and more to do with fixture pile up, exhaustion and climate often standing in the England men's way.
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The foreign players playing for foreign international teams literally play in the same teams and league as the English players. Why is it more of an issue for English players who don't even play many of the games? Also the climate thing is total nonsense. Is that the excuse for Qatar coming in? Going to be temperatures akin to a Scottish spring day.
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It's simple. ALL of our players, bar 1 or 2, play in this country where the demands are a lot greater than anywhere else. Every game is hard whereas in Spain, Italy, Germany and Portugal, you'll face teams where you can take your foot off the gas a little. It's a physically and emotionally demanding league. That takes its toll. Whilst we might have 5 or 6 from the Spanish squad, most of them ply their trade in Spain. Likewise for Italy etc.
I'm not talking about upcoming tournaments, like Qatar, I'm talking about previous tournaments where we've failed. Japan and SK, Mexico, S Africa, Brazil. It's impossible to win a tournament like that if you have no experience of playing in stifling heat.
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Almost everything you are saying is either incorrect or contradicting itself.
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Come on then smart ar$e, point out everything in my post that's incorrect or contradictory. If you're gonna have an opposing opinion, back it up.
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yout think teams in other leagues dont try as hard or "take the foot off the gas"
thats just hilarious that !!
more than half of the team of the tournament in the last euros was made up of players in the EPL. but they were too tired to compete?
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Listen mate, do your research. I've heard managers and players say exactly that about the difference between the leagues. Whether it was Pep or Poch or someone from the Spanish league, it was basically pointed out that Barca or Real could play at around 80% and still win at a canter.
I'm tired of explaining myself though. All I do know is that you're opinion is backed up by nothing more than a few ignorant fans whereas mine is backed up by the players and managers themselves. If this comes down to evidence, the jury wouldn't take very long to make their decision.
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i did do my research..... it showed me that more than half of the best players at the tournament were playing in the EPL at the time.
You literally think other leagues dont try as hard as England. its absolutely idiotic
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3:26 onwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TlRzmUUoWo
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at what point does Pep say that other teams in other leagues dont try as hard or take their foot of the gas? as you claimed
comment by KSE Out (U21076)
posted 31 minutes ago
I just wish we got an extra bank holiday.
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meh i called in sick anyway. cant be facked with work.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
England did well at lassed wurld cup
Were they not tyred?
Ore was it becuse they had a farely soft set of games?
I enjoyed what I saw and am pleased the women won it, but it still has some way to come before it can be put along the men's in terms of quality and popularity. Likelihood is it never will. I mean for one thing I haven't seen one England flag up in and around where I live over the course of the tournament. More Ukraine flags about than England ones.
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Also Rangers last season had a lot of players playing insane amounts of minutes. Did we look leggy in ET in the europa league final against a German team?
We looked the fresher in ET IMO. and that was on the back of 2 games per week for the best part of 4 months and an in the 2 weeks prior to the final extra time game against Leipzig, extra time against celtic, extra time against Frankfurt, extra time against hearts just after the europa final.
Every single game in those ET's did we look the fresher team IMO.
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
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Ur rong tho
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Whut
Every single tv channel has had blanket couvetage passed 24hrs?
U cud not avoid it?
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posted 15 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
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Man City and Liverpool win games more easily than Barca/Madrid. They score more goals, they get more points. What part of them winning lots of games really easily and scoring lots of goals leads you to believe these games are really tough?
Yes when Barca and Madrid were at their peak they were winning loads of games easily in La Liga, because they were so good. The players also won Euros and World Cups because they were so good. They won CLs as well as leagues, as well as international tournaments, because they were so good. They went off to club world cups and won those, because they were so good. They maybe weren't as tired as other players because they made everyone else do that running around, because they were so good.
As for fixtures, if you actually look at the January of an average elite PL player, they play roughly one game on average due to early rounds of FA cup etc. The top level players don't tend to play the league cup and only the latter rounds of the FA cup if they are still in it.
It appears that it is a classic case of looking for excuses when an English team doesn't do well, but also looking for excuses for when clearly better teams are successful in order to belittle their achievements.
Then you switch it about for when an English team is doing well or badly. Whatever makes it out that everything English is the best and toughest at all times.
For the next world cup, English players may go into it with the least amount of minutes played of any nation.
No doubt you'll flip that around too and turn it into an excuse. Lack of game time or such.
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posted 37 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
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to me it seems like your the one making the claims here without submitting actual data or facts to back it up
fixture pile up, exhaustion and climate often standing in the England men's way
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Don’t forget all that foreign muck they have to eat. And people thanklessly talking at them in foreign after all we did to civilise them.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 47 minutes ago
fixture pile up, exhaustion and climate often standing in the England men's way
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Don’t forget all that foreign muck they have to eat. And people thanklessly talking at them in foreign after all we did to civilise them.
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climate .... we have a superb climate for playing football, cool and some moisture. Hot and dry is horrible to try and play in. They literally try to replicate our conditions the world over. In Spain and the likes they play at night when its cooler, its almost as if they water the park to get the grass nice and slick and soften the ground up a bit.
climate !!!
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
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Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
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Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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You milk that win at every second you get .... what are you talking about !?!?!
the whole world looks forward to a world cup... England spend 3 weeks looking back at one!
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
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Lol....there's a lot of nonsense here. Firstly, other than the League Cup (where top players rarely feature), there's not much difference between the schedule of Spanish and English teams. Or Italian and English teams. French players who ply their trade mostly abroad aren't different either. Only the Germans you could say have a little advantage here. But even when they won the World Cup, their top players mostly at Bayern and Dortmund piled on a lot of minutes over the season.
Then there's the typical arrogant, deluded claims about the English league as the bestest, hardest, most competitive league in the world. I've heard this nonsense all my life, but only recently has it finally been true as years of English money blowing everyone else in Europe away is finally beginning to take its toll. It certainly wasn't true in most of my football watching lifetime from the late 90's up until thereabouts 2019/2020.
The era where those English players you're calling were so vital for their clubs is the same era when the likes of Zidane, Viera, Makalele, Henry, Pires etc were very vital for their clubs. Spain found a lot of success in 3 consecutive tournaments with the busiest squad in the world. The French team that won the last World Cup had pretty long, grueling seasons. These are just shiiitty excuses for an overrated team who were always technically outclassed and tactically outmaneuvered every tournament..
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It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
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Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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Did you qualify for the seniors discount that day Sandy?
Cos you’re old innit
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fixture pile up, exhaustion and climate often standing in the England men's way
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Don’t forget all that foreign muck they have to eat. And people thanklessly talking at them in foreign after all we did to civilise them.
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I can imagine it’s quite tiring for our lads having to repeat themselves very slowly and shouting “ por favor, faaacking chips”
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It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
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Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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Did you qualify for the seniors discount that day Sandy?
Cos you’re old innit
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I was 17.
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It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
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Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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Did you qualify for the seniors discount that day Sandy?
Cos you’re old innit
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I was 17.
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And you didn’t go out on the lash afterwards?
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It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
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Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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Did you qualify for the seniors discount that day Sandy?
Cos you’re old innit
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I was 17.
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And you didn’t go out on the lash afterwards?
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He had too go back in2 the mine n clean the bat-turds outta the difference engine
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England's men are at the equilibrium that foreign investment in the PL has brought. They need to win something now before English players become even more of a bit part within the PL.
The top English teams have one or two good English players who currently have the benefit of playing with world class foreign players and being coached by world class foreign managers. Now is the time for them to reap all of these benefits.
Just a few years ago, the top players at the top clubs were English. You had Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney etc. Now you have whatever a Grealish is for £100m and an inanimate object in Maguire playing for Man Utd for £85m or whatever. All of the top players are foreign and English players just get squeezed in due to quotas.
Within a few years, English players will be playing an even lesser role at big clubs and even worse English players will be hyped up and bought for £150m due to quotas of English players needed (not due to their ability).
What is a Nathan Ake and why is it at Man City?
Whilst there is still a balance, and the PL is still vaguely sort of English, England need to win something.
There may come a point where money talks and there doesn't need to be English players in the PL anymore. Why would Saudis need Ben Mee in their team when they could have a world class foreign player?
Anyway, it does look like now or never for England.
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I'm not sure that's necessarily true as they've been banging that drum for decades now and we've got a young squad of truly talented players now in the England set up. If players are good enough, they'll come through, like Foden at City, for example.
Anyway, not sure what all this has to do with the women's game.
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I was going to say that England women winning it is more of an achievement as the men are currently benefiting from playing with world class players and being coaches by world class managers due to foreign money in the PL.
Yes, you mention Phil Foden, he is one decent player in a Man City team with players better than him. He is hardly De Bruyne. Sancho hardly getting a game for a mid table United side.
Maybe what works well for them at an international level is that they get on better because there is no rivalry between them at club level because they barely play and the club matches are now soulless anyway.
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It's not more of an achievement as the England women are playing against equally poor teams. It's a level playing field. It has nothing to do with good coaching and more to do with fixture pile up, exhaustion and climate often standing in the England men's way.
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The foreign players playing for foreign international teams literally play in the same teams and league as the English players. Why is it more of an issue for English players who don't even play many of the games? Also the climate thing is total nonsense. Is that the excuse for Qatar coming in? Going to be temperatures akin to a Scottish spring day.
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It's simple. ALL of our players, bar 1 or 2, play in this country where the demands are a lot greater than anywhere else. Every game is hard whereas in Spain, Italy, Germany and Portugal, you'll face teams where you can take your foot off the gas a little. It's a physically and emotionally demanding league. That takes its toll. Whilst we might have 5 or 6 from the Spanish squad, most of them ply their trade in Spain. Likewise for Italy etc.
I'm not talking about upcoming tournaments, like Qatar, I'm talking about previous tournaments where we've failed. Japan and SK, Mexico, S Africa, Brazil. It's impossible to win a tournament like that if you have no experience of playing in stifling heat.
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Almost everything you are saying is either incorrect or contradicting itself.
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Come on then smart ar$e, point out everything in my post that's incorrect or contradictory. If you're gonna have an opposing opinion, back it up.
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yout think teams in other leagues dont try as hard or "take the foot off the gas"
thats just hilarious that !!
more than half of the team of the tournament in the last euros was made up of players in the EPL. but they were too tired to compete?
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Listen mate, do your research. I've heard managers and players say exactly that about the difference between the leagues. Whether it was Pep or Poch or someone from the Spanish league, it was basically pointed out that Barca or Real could play at around 80% and still win at a canter.
I'm tired of explaining myself though. All I do know is that you're opinion is backed up by nothing more than a few ignorant fans whereas mine is backed up by the players and managers themselves. If this comes down to evidence, the jury wouldn't take very long to make their decision.
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i did do my research..... it showed me that more than half of the best players at the tournament were playing in the EPL at the time.
You literally think other leagues dont try as hard as England. its absolutely idiotic
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3:26 onwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TlRzmUUoWo
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at what point does Pep say that other teams in other leagues dont try as hard or take their foot of the gas? as you claimed
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I just wish we got an extra bank holiday.
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meh i called in sick anyway. cant be facked with work.
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I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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England did well at lassed wurld cup
Were they not tyred?
Ore was it becuse they had a farely soft set of games?
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I enjoyed what I saw and am pleased the women won it, but it still has some way to come before it can be put along the men's in terms of quality and popularity. Likelihood is it never will. I mean for one thing I haven't seen one England flag up in and around where I live over the course of the tournament. More Ukraine flags about than England ones.
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I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Also Rangers last season had a lot of players playing insane amounts of minutes. Did we look leggy in ET in the europa league final against a German team?
We looked the fresher in ET IMO. and that was on the back of 2 games per week for the best part of 4 months and an in the 2 weeks prior to the final extra time game against Leipzig, extra time against celtic, extra time against Frankfurt, extra time against hearts just after the europa final.
Every single game in those ET's did we look the fresher team IMO.
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I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
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Ur rong tho
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It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Whut
Every single tv channel has had blanket couvetage passed 24hrs?
U cud not avoid it?
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posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
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Man City and Liverpool win games more easily than Barca/Madrid. They score more goals, they get more points. What part of them winning lots of games really easily and scoring lots of goals leads you to believe these games are really tough?
Yes when Barca and Madrid were at their peak they were winning loads of games easily in La Liga, because they were so good. The players also won Euros and World Cups because they were so good. They won CLs as well as leagues, as well as international tournaments, because they were so good. They went off to club world cups and won those, because they were so good. They maybe weren't as tired as other players because they made everyone else do that running around, because they were so good.
As for fixtures, if you actually look at the January of an average elite PL player, they play roughly one game on average due to early rounds of FA cup etc. The top level players don't tend to play the league cup and only the latter rounds of the FA cup if they are still in it.
It appears that it is a classic case of looking for excuses when an English team doesn't do well, but also looking for excuses for when clearly better teams are successful in order to belittle their achievements.
Then you switch it about for when an English team is doing well or badly. Whatever makes it out that everything English is the best and toughest at all times.
For the next world cup, English players may go into it with the least amount of minutes played of any nation.
No doubt you'll flip that around too and turn it into an excuse. Lack of game time or such.
posted on 1/8/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
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to me it seems like your the one making the claims here without submitting actual data or facts to back it up
posted on 1/8/22
fixture pile up, exhaustion and climate often standing in the England men's way
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Don’t forget all that foreign muck they have to eat. And people thanklessly talking at them in foreign after all we did to civilise them.
posted on 1/8/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
posted on 1/8/22
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 47 minutes ago
fixture pile up, exhaustion and climate often standing in the England men's way
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Don’t forget all that foreign muck they have to eat. And people thanklessly talking at them in foreign after all we did to civilise them.
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climate .... we have a superb climate for playing football, cool and some moisture. Hot and dry is horrible to try and play in. They literally try to replicate our conditions the world over. In Spain and the likes they play at night when its cooler, its almost as if they water the park to get the grass nice and slick and soften the ground up a bit.
climate !!!
posted on 1/8/22
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
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Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
posted on 1/8/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
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Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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You milk that win at every second you get .... what are you talking about !?!?!
the whole world looks forward to a world cup... England spend 3 weeks looking back at one!
posted on 1/8/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 8 minutes ago
I love English exceptionalism.
"Every game is hard".
No, it really isn't. I mean, that late season spell where City won 3-0, 5-1, 4-0, 5-0 then 5-1 must have been really, really tough for them. You don't get tough matches like that in the other leagues, no sir.
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How many English players play in that City team? Four off the top of my head - Foden, Sterling (then), Grealish and Stones. Then ask yourself how many minutes they played for their clubs. They were all rotated heavily because City have a luxury of being able to do that.
Honestly to use City as the benchmark for how easy the league is just absurd. Even City lost to Norwich the season before last. The worst club the Premier League has seen for decades beat the supposed best of all time. That in itself proves how difficult this league is to win. Pep has even said it himself. So has Conte. It's not English exceptionalism, it's facts.
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So the English team suffers because all their players are so tired from the gruelling season.
Apart from the Man City players who get rotated so are nice and fresh.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-10-world-cup-players-with-the-most-minutes-this-season-kante-kdb-messi/
This was from before the last world cup. How many English players do you think featured in that top 10?
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Are you completely incapable of understanding plain logic? I'm not denying that certain players play more minutes. I'm saying that ALL of the English players are part of a gruelling season where there's a huge fixture pile up over xmas, 2 domestic cups as opposed to one in other countries and the demands are greater based on the quality of the opposition. There are no gimmes. Messi has played a load of minutes but what about the rest of his Argentina team mates? Or the rest of the France squad for Kante?
It's less of a problem these days as a lot of English players in top teams are fresher as they're benched a lot more. Think Sterling, Foden, Stones, Grealish etc. We've seen the fruits of that over the past 4-5 years. I'm talking more about an era where Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney, for example, were so vital for their clubs, they played all the time, were rarely rotated and their international tournament football suffered. They've since admitted they were all tired after so many gruelling seasons. I'm sorry, it's just not the same in other leagues. If you're giving everything to win every match compared to players at Madrid and Barca or Bayern and Juve only having to be at 90% to win, that 10% conserved adds up at the end of a campaign.
I'm done with this now. If you're not getting it, you're not getting it. You're just hear for an argument and I can't be ar$ed with it.
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Lol....there's a lot of nonsense here. Firstly, other than the League Cup (where top players rarely feature), there's not much difference between the schedule of Spanish and English teams. Or Italian and English teams. French players who ply their trade mostly abroad aren't different either. Only the Germans you could say have a little advantage here. But even when they won the World Cup, their top players mostly at Bayern and Dortmund piled on a lot of minutes over the season.
Then there's the typical arrogant, deluded claims about the English league as the bestest, hardest, most competitive league in the world. I've heard this nonsense all my life, but only recently has it finally been true as years of English money blowing everyone else in Europe away is finally beginning to take its toll. It certainly wasn't true in most of my football watching lifetime from the late 90's up until thereabouts 2019/2020.
The era where those English players you're calling were so vital for their clubs is the same era when the likes of Zidane, Viera, Makalele, Henry, Pires etc were very vital for their clubs. Spain found a lot of success in 3 consecutive tournaments with the busiest squad in the world. The French team that won the last World Cup had pretty long, grueling seasons. These are just shiiitty excuses for an overrated team who were always technically outclassed and tactically outmaneuvered every tournament..
posted on 1/8/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
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Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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Did you qualify for the seniors discount that day Sandy?
Cos you’re old innit
posted on 1/8/22
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
fixture pile up, exhaustion and climate often standing in the England men's way
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Don’t forget all that foreign muck they have to eat. And people thanklessly talking at them in foreign after all we did to civilise them.
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I can imagine it’s quite tiring for our lads having to repeat themselves very slowly and shouting “ por favor, faaacking chips”
posted on 1/8/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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Did you qualify for the seniors discount that day Sandy?
Cos you’re old innit
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I was 17.
posted on 1/8/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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Did you qualify for the seniors discount that day Sandy?
Cos you’re old innit
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I was 17.
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And you didn’t go out on the lash afterwards?
posted on 1/8/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It's embarrassing watching the team in Trafalgar Square today. TV switched off, as they seem to be showing nothing else except this cringy rubbish.
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The men's team would have done exactly the same.
For someone who's not bothered about Women's football, you seem strangely obsessed with it. Take a day off Sandy and let the rest of the country enjoy the moment for what it is. If you can't be happy for them then there is something deeply wrong with you. But then, I guess we always knew that.
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Absolutely not obsessed with it. But it has been blanket coveraged down our throats for the past 24 hours. They need to give it a rest.
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Would you still be moaning if the men's team were given the same level of coverage (which they would be)?
It's very easy to avoid it, if you really want to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not overly keen on men`s International football either.
It is the general hype over everything in the modern age that get`s my back up. Everything is hyped up to ridiculous highs, then quickly forgotten when something else happens.
As somebody who was at the 1966 WorldCup Final, I do not remember anywhere near the hype around that final. Yes there were some celebrations. But all I seem to remember is going to the match, coming home, having a chat with my mates about the result, then more or less forgetting all about it.
No doubt they will be giving Damehoods to the whole England Women`s team, and heard something nonsensical about giving everyone a day off work. FFS it`s a game of women`s football, Not VE Day.
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Did you qualify for the seniors discount that day Sandy?
Cos you’re old innit
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I was 17.
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And you didn’t go out on the lash afterwards?
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He had too go back in2 the mine n clean the bat-turds outta the difference engine
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