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cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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👍
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Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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You know that you’re talking about 2 different Dundee sides? With a different manager? And different opposition? And different playing environment?
Comparing apples and oranges tbf
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Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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Well he did? but that is on the US coach surely .... does that magically make him a CB?
he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.
We have been decimated by long term injuries and needs to be addressed. but for eg last night we were missing 4 first team CBS and another 6 regular first team starters through injury.
teams at our level cannot expect to do well with so many of the better players missing.
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Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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He's absolutely rank
Is his dad the coach ?
I cant believe he's an international player ?
Worse than Ross Tokely , least with big Tokely you know what you're getting
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cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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You know that you’re talking about 2 different Dundee sides? With a different manager? And different opposition? And different playing environment?
Comparing apples and oranges tbf
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im talking about the progression and evolution of a team as they increase their level of competition. I didnt think it would be necessary to make a point of saying that teams will add and remove players and the same time is never the same week in week out. I assumed most people would have figured that bit out.
‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
That Dundee argument is just mental btw. And I thought I often wasted energy on senseless debates, but that’s one even I can’t join in.
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‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
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cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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👍
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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You know that you’re talking about 2 different Dundee sides? With a different manager? And different opposition? And different playing environment?
Comparing apples and oranges tbf
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im talking about the progression and evolution of a team as they increase their level of competition. I didnt think it would be necessary to make a point of saying that teams will add and remove players and the same time is never the same week in week out. I assumed most people would have figured that bit out.
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And managers. Huge change that is for a club. That’s why it’s daft to judge Ange’s Celtic based on the team in Lennon’s last season. Add in covid impacts, and the challenges in the finances of a yo-yo club like Dundee, and I just don’t think the point you’re trying to make has any meaningful merit when using Dundee as an analogy 👍 the more general point happy to discuss, but I don’t see what benefit bringing Dundee into it has, other than to attempt to point score with a fellow fan of Scottish football.
‘Is his dad the coach ?’
Aye-Shifting.
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Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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He's absolutely rank
Is his dad the coach ?
I cant believe he's an international player ?
Worse than Ross Tokely , least with big Tokely you know what you're getting
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I see some support for the idea that he's being played out of position.
I agree assuming that his position is anywhere other than on a football pitch.
He also looks like a young Uncle Fester.
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That Dundee argument is just mental btw. And I thought I often wasted energy on senseless debates, but that’s one even I can’t join in.
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You just did
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‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
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Sands has played for the US national side 7 times from the looks of it. What position has he played in those games?
They are the runny jobbie we are the big solid turd.
Both horrible but one definitely more painful than the other.
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Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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He's absolutely rank
Is his dad the coach ?
I cant believe he's an international player ?
Worse than Ross Tokely , least with big Tokely you know what you're getting
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I see some support for the idea that he's being played out of position.
I agree assuming that his position is anywhere other than on a football pitch.
He also looks like a young Uncle Fester.
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the lad is fcking tripe
Unfortunately he's a loan , I thought they had him tied up
Which would have been nice
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They are the runny jobbie we are the big solid turd.
Both horrible but one definitely more painful than the other.
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Them runny ones are usually pretty fiery though
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cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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👍
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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You know that you’re talking about 2 different Dundee sides? With a different manager? And different opposition? And different playing environment?
Comparing apples and oranges tbf
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im talking about the progression and evolution of a team as they increase their level of competition. I didnt think it would be necessary to make a point of saying that teams will add and remove players and the same time is never the same week in week out. I assumed most people would have figured that bit out.
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And managers. Huge change that is for a club. That’s why it’s daft to judge Ange’s Celtic based on the team in Lennon’s last season. Add in covid impacts, and the challenges in the finances of a yo-yo club like Dundee, and I just don’t think the point you’re trying to make has any meaningful merit when using Dundee as an analogy 👍 the more general point happy to discuss, but I don’t see what benefit bringing Dundee into it has, other than to attempt to point score with a fellow fan of Scottish football.
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are Dundee better now after a year of playing at a higher level than they were prior?
Like I said he came on and suggested that if we play against better attacks we will get better results.
I say if we get better players we will get better results.
I used his own club as an example of a team increasing their level of competition and after a season of prolonged better opposition are now in a poorer position than they were previous to increasing that competition.
Doesnt matter who we play against domestically, in europe the players we have are not of high quality. Its better quality players we need.
If you dont get that then not a lot I can do
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‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
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Sands has played for the US national side 7 times from the looks of it. What position has he played in those games?
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CM and CB
FFS Sands is pash in midfield, he's pash at CB.
Wish we would cut the excuses, sooner you take it on the chin and get behind what needs to be done at the club, the sooner they take notice and do it.
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comment by My POV (U10636)
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‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
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I’ve no idea how many games Jack has played at CB for you-I’ve never known him to start a game there, but you keep going with that line. It looks at a quick glance that all but 1 of his games for the US have been as a CB.
It’s a fairly moot point you’re making, for me.
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comment by My POV (U10636)
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‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
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Sands has played for the US national side 7 times from the looks of it. What position has he played in those games?
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CM and CB
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How many in each position?
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
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They are the runny jobbie we are the big solid turd.
Both horrible but one definitely more painful than the other.
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And weemin complain about the pain of child birth, pffttt
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cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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👍
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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👍
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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👍
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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You know that you’re talking about 2 different Dundee sides? With a different manager? And different opposition? And different playing environment?
Comparing apples and oranges tbf
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posted 46 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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Well he did? but that is on the US coach surely .... does that magically make him a CB?
he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.
We have been decimated by long term injuries and needs to be addressed. but for eg last night we were missing 4 first team CBS and another 6 regular first team starters through injury.
teams at our level cannot expect to do well with so many of the better players missing.
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Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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He's absolutely rank
Is his dad the coach ?
I cant believe he's an international player ?
Worse than Ross Tokely , least with big Tokely you know what you're getting
posted on 2/11/22
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posted 4 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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👍
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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You know that you’re talking about 2 different Dundee sides? With a different manager? And different opposition? And different playing environment?
Comparing apples and oranges tbf
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im talking about the progression and evolution of a team as they increase their level of competition. I didnt think it would be necessary to make a point of saying that teams will add and remove players and the same time is never the same week in week out. I assumed most people would have figured that bit out.
posted on 2/11/22
*same team
posted on 2/11/22
‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
posted on 2/11/22
That Dundee argument is just mental btw. And I thought I often wasted energy on senseless debates, but that’s one even I can’t join in.
posted on 2/11/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 second ago
‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
posted on 2/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 19 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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👍
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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You know that you’re talking about 2 different Dundee sides? With a different manager? And different opposition? And different playing environment?
Comparing apples and oranges tbf
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im talking about the progression and evolution of a team as they increase their level of competition. I didnt think it would be necessary to make a point of saying that teams will add and remove players and the same time is never the same week in week out. I assumed most people would have figured that bit out.
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And managers. Huge change that is for a club. That’s why it’s daft to judge Ange’s Celtic based on the team in Lennon’s last season. Add in covid impacts, and the challenges in the finances of a yo-yo club like Dundee, and I just don’t think the point you’re trying to make has any meaningful merit when using Dundee as an analogy 👍 the more general point happy to discuss, but I don’t see what benefit bringing Dundee into it has, other than to attempt to point score with a fellow fan of Scottish football.
posted on 2/11/22
‘Is his dad the coach ?’
Aye-Shifting.
posted on 2/11/22
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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He's absolutely rank
Is his dad the coach ?
I cant believe he's an international player ?
Worse than Ross Tokely , least with big Tokely you know what you're getting
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I see some support for the idea that he's being played out of position.
I agree assuming that his position is anywhere other than on a football pitch.
He also looks like a young Uncle Fester.
posted on 2/11/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
That Dundee argument is just mental btw. And I thought I often wasted energy on senseless debates, but that’s one even I can’t join in.
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You just did
posted on 2/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 second ago
‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
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Sands has played for the US national side 7 times from the looks of it. What position has he played in those games?
posted on 2/11/22
They are the runny jobbie we are the big solid turd.
Both horrible but one definitely more painful than the other.
posted on 2/11/22
comment by Magnum (2 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
Both teams have been found out as being not good enough for this level.
Rangers have found out that to even give these teams a game you need your best players out on the pitch.
Most teams would struggle to do well with ALL their first team CBS out injured and having to play two inexpereinced players (one a youth player CB the other a CM) teams like us will get skelped when they have no defenders fit.
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That’ll be Sands you’re referring to, the same guy that folk on here were crowing about that he was keeping CCV out the team for the US?
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He's absolutely rank
Is his dad the coach ?
I cant believe he's an international player ?
Worse than Ross Tokely , least with big Tokely you know what you're getting
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I see some support for the idea that he's being played out of position.
I agree assuming that his position is anywhere other than on a football pitch.
He also looks like a young Uncle Fester.
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the lad is fcking tripe
Unfortunately he's a loan , I thought they had him tied up
Which would have been nice
posted on 2/11/22
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 22 seconds ago
They are the runny jobbie we are the big solid turd.
Both horrible but one definitely more painful than the other.
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Them runny ones are usually pretty fiery though
posted on 2/11/22
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 19 seconds ago
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posted 43 seconds ago
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posted 23 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
cos from the outset it looks like the last time Dundee were in the championship they were one of the best teams in the championship. After a year of playing better attacks, the now find themselves as one of the worst teams in the championship.
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Same players? Same manager?
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irrelevant, the point is both rangers and celtic cannot compete agaisnt the better teams cos we dont play against good enough attacks week in week out. So that would suggest playing against better attacks will make the clubs better and improve their levels.
Well Dundee stepped up their level of competition and appear to have went backwards not forwards.
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The players and managed a club has is irrelevant to whether they continue to be competitive or not?
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he is talking about clubs progressing if they are able to play better opposition. His team played better opposition for a year and have regressed since.
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Yeah if we had played better opposition whilst in the Championship then we would have been in a better position to play against better opposition when in the Premiership. Your point contradicts itself.
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👍
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nope the evidence suggests that if the opposition ws better in the championship you would be relegated as that what happened the last time the level of oppositoin in your league improved
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You know that you’re talking about 2 different Dundee sides? With a different manager? And different opposition? And different playing environment?
Comparing apples and oranges tbf
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im talking about the progression and evolution of a team as they increase their level of competition. I didnt think it would be necessary to make a point of saying that teams will add and remove players and the same time is never the same week in week out. I assumed most people would have figured that bit out.
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And managers. Huge change that is for a club. That’s why it’s daft to judge Ange’s Celtic based on the team in Lennon’s last season. Add in covid impacts, and the challenges in the finances of a yo-yo club like Dundee, and I just don’t think the point you’re trying to make has any meaningful merit when using Dundee as an analogy 👍 the more general point happy to discuss, but I don’t see what benefit bringing Dundee into it has, other than to attempt to point score with a fellow fan of Scottish football.
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are Dundee better now after a year of playing at a higher level than they were prior?
Like I said he came on and suggested that if we play against better attacks we will get better results.
I say if we get better players we will get better results.
I used his own club as an example of a team increasing their level of competition and after a season of prolonged better opposition are now in a poorer position than they were previous to increasing that competition.
Doesnt matter who we play against domestically, in europe the players we have are not of high quality. Its better quality players we need.
If you dont get that then not a lot I can do
posted on 2/11/22
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 second ago
‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
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Sands has played for the US national side 7 times from the looks of it. What position has he played in those games?
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CM and CB
posted on 2/11/22
FFS Sands is pash in midfield, he's pash at CB.
Wish we would cut the excuses, sooner you take it on the chin and get behind what needs to be done at the club, the sooner they take notice and do it.
posted on 2/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 second ago
‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
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I’ve no idea how many games Jack has played at CB for you-I’ve never known him to start a game there, but you keep going with that line. It looks at a quick glance that all but 1 of his games for the US have been as a CB.
It’s a fairly moot point you’re making, for me.
posted on 2/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 second ago
‘he is CM playing in CB facts are facts.’
He plays CB for his international team apparently, and probably 90 odd percent of his games for his club have been at CB?!
Ok.
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how many games has he played at CB for America.
Ryan Jack has had to play at CB for us more times than Sands has played CB for America... is Jack a CB?
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Sands has played for the US national side 7 times from the looks of it. What position has he played in those games?
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CM and CB
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How many in each position?
posted on 2/11/22
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
They are the runny jobbie we are the big solid turd.
Both horrible but one definitely more painful than the other.
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And weemin complain about the pain of child birth, pffttt
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