What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
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comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
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Your point being?
in a globalists community.
—————
See, now you’ve gone and summoned TUX.
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 22 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/ncfplus/status/1603097966058799107?s=46&t=MsOoXpqz3l4dVSxWThDyFg
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Mbappe really, really likes Hakimi going by that pic.
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
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Your point being?
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You make a solid point that if you start defining nationality by ethnicity it's a complex mess that's not helpful or relevant. Then immediately contradict yourself by declaring them 100% French.
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
---
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Your point being?
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You make a solid point that if you start defining nationality by ethnicity it's a complex mess that's not helpful or relevant. Then immediately contradict yourself by declaring them 100% French.
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So where is the contradiction exactly?
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
https://twitter.com/ncfplus/status/1603097966058799107?s=46&t=MsOoXpqz3l4dVSxWThDyFg
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Would be funnier if the truth wasn't so tragic.
The 4 teams are;
Brazil
Argentina
Saudi Arabia
South Korea
Wouldn't have gone for Argentina nor Brazil. Saudi, Korea, Japan, and Iran would have been my picks.
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
---
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Your point being?
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You make a solid point that if you start defining nationality by ethnicity it's a complex mess that's not helpful or relevant. Then immediately contradict yourself by declaring them 100% French.
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So where is the contradiction exactly?
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In that you're deciding that these people are 100% French. Of course they'd call themselves French if they're playing for the France team etc but I bet you most first generation immigrants wouldn't call themselves 100% anything. Probably a lot of second generation immigrants would still have a lot of cultural influences from their parents that weren't born in their home country.
Maybe I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that. But what I'm getting at is that it's ok to not be binary about these things. Being 100% anything doesn't make sense and the idea of it encourages toxic nationalism. Which I know you're not trying to do there. But yeah.
Is Matty Cash 100% Polish? Who gives a fack. Shut up and direct your concern about the world to more important things if you're going to start caring. Like nurses having to go to food banks.
(Not directed at you Thorgen jus sayin)
Surprised at Saudi tbf, I was miles off it then. Although they have strict citizenship rules, like Qatar I thought some of their squad would be naturalised players born abroad.!
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
Surprised at Saudi tbf, I was miles off it then. Although they have strict citizenship rules, like Qatar I thought some of their squad would be naturalised players born abroad.!
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Id have thought Spanish / Portuguese would have featured for Brazil / Argentina tbf. Perhaps even Uruguay/Chile. Surprised Japan weren't 100%
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
This is EXACTLY why I’ll cheering on Argentina and my favourite player, Mac Allister
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guy called Alex Macallister with a ginger beard..... and you guys say Scotland aint at the world cup!
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A Scottish guy wearing an Argentina shirt, how original....
It isn't any surprise that many players who have dual options choose the stronger nation regardless of what their family/heart dictates.
Benzema quite openly said he only chose France for football reasons and he isn't the only one. No biggy, the rules are the rules, it is up to them if they wanna turn their back on their family roots or not.
People ask me why I haven't gotten US citizenship and my answer is simple, I am British and wouldn't want to claim any other nationality.
It's crazy how my half british/half South asian daughter could one day like easily become a Nigerian man if she wanted to......
Those brilliant and wonderfully talented people are African....
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 11 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
---
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Your point being?
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You make a solid point that if you start defining nationality by ethnicity it's a complex mess that's not helpful or relevant. Then immediately contradict yourself by declaring them 100% French.
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So where is the contradiction exactly?
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In that you're deciding that these people are 100% French. Of course they'd call themselves French if they're playing for the France team etc but I bet you most first generation immigrants wouldn't call themselves 100% anything. Probably a lot of second generation immigrants would still have a lot of cultural influences from their parents that weren't born in their home country.
Maybe I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that. But what I'm getting at is that it's ok to not be binary about these things. Being 100% anything doesn't make sense and the idea of it encourages toxic nationalism. Which I know you're not trying to do there. But yeah.
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They're 100% French in terms of the law. The law doesn't always care how someone sees themselves. You may even fancy yourself as a Martian but in the world you are English(assuming you are English) or whatever country's passport you hold.
I do get your point but in terms of representing your country, there is no binary. You have to chose which country to represent as you can't represent more than one country.
So in the context of football, the world cup and this article, they're 100% French as they hold French passports and are citizens of France.
So if I was to accept your pov, then tell me what percentage French they are and what percentage is the other? 50%? Maybe 70%?
How they view themselves is more personal. Society and government will have its own take.
comment by Cinciwolf---England lose, world cup saved. (U11551)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
It isn't any surprise that many players who have dual options choose the stronger nation regardless of what their family/heart dictates.
Benzema quite openly said he only chose France for football reasons and he isn't the only one. No biggy, the rules are the rules, it is up to them if they wanna turn their back on their family roots or not.
People ask me why I haven't gotten US citizenship and my answer is simple, I am British and wouldn't want to claim any other nationality.
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A lot of Benzema's family and roots are also in France. Also, it's just football. Don't be melodramatic. Playing for France is not turning your back on your family roots.
It's easy for someone like you to say how you would never do what Benzema did but at the end of the day you're a nobody, like everyone else on here. Benzema is Benzema. Easy to talk when it's not you, but I don't think you'd make a different decision than Benzema if you were rich, famous and brilliant at football.
His family probably want him to play for France as they want to see him win world cups and be remembered after he's gone.
You do you, Benzema will do Benzema.
comment by Shaun M - Livin da vi la Roca (U9955)
posted 17 hours, 44 minutes ago
According to FIFA, there were 137 players playing in the WC for countries they were not born in (16%)
Only 4 countries had a squads of only players born in that country,
Some of the bigger names include;
Pepe - Portugal / Brazil
L De Jong - Netherlands / Switzerland
Sterling - England / Jamaica
Koulibaly - Senegal / France
Alphonso Davies - Canada / Ghana
Harry Souttar - Australia / Scotland
French / African teams were the most populous. Tunisia had 11, Senegal 10, Cameroon and Morocco with 7 and Ghana had 6.
Morocco had 14 players out of their 26-man squad born overseas
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I'm born in the Netherlands but I will always be Moroccan. Those facking Dutch/ french people see us as Africans when we do bad things but Dutch or French when we are good at something. Comparable with that Scottish tennis player Murray. France would be an average team without those African players.
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
It's crazy how my half british/half South asian daughter could one day like easily become a Nigerian man if she wanted to......
Those brilliant and wonderfully talented people are African....
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howcomes your daughter can be half/half. yet black players born in france 100% cant be french?
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
It's crazy how my half british/half South asian daughter could one day like easily become a Nigerian man if she wanted to......
Those brilliant and wonderfully talented people are African....
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howcomes your daughter can be half/half. yet black players born in france 100% cant be french?
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Britain is a country. South Asia is a region. How can a person be half one country and other half a region? These labels are ridiculous.
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the facking world cup. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
It's crazy how my half british/half South asian daughter could one day like easily become a Nigerian man if she wanted to......
Those brilliant and wonderfully talented people are African....
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howcomes your daughter can be half/half. yet black players born in france 100% cant be french?
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Britain is a country.
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someone .... anyone ??
The OP is certainly ridiculous
Will be tough for his daughter when shes older if she gets into sport at a high level.
Who to pick to represent:
England
or
South Asia
People ask me why I haven't gotten US citizenship and my answer is simple, I am British and wouldn't want to claim any other nationality.
———
You are English but claim to be Scottish.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Will be tough for his daughter when shes older if she gets into sport at a high level.
Who to pick to represent:
England
or
South Asia
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or Britain
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posted on 15/12/22
What does being French mean anyway?
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They're 100% French
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posted on 15/12/22
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
---
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Your point being?
posted on 15/12/22
in a globalists community.
—————
See, now you’ve gone and summoned TUX.
posted on 15/12/22
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 22 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/ncfplus/status/1603097966058799107?s=46&t=MsOoXpqz3l4dVSxWThDyFg
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Mbappe really, really likes Hakimi going by that pic.
posted on 15/12/22
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
---
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Your point being?
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You make a solid point that if you start defining nationality by ethnicity it's a complex mess that's not helpful or relevant. Then immediately contradict yourself by declaring them 100% French.
posted on 15/12/22
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
---
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your point being?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You make a solid point that if you start defining nationality by ethnicity it's a complex mess that's not helpful or relevant. Then immediately contradict yourself by declaring them 100% French.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So where is the contradiction exactly?
posted on 15/12/22
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
https://twitter.com/ncfplus/status/1603097966058799107?s=46&t=MsOoXpqz3l4dVSxWThDyFg
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Would be funnier if the truth wasn't so tragic.
posted on 15/12/22
The 4 teams are;
Brazil
Argentina
Saudi Arabia
South Korea
Wouldn't have gone for Argentina nor Brazil. Saudi, Korea, Japan, and Iran would have been my picks.
posted on 15/12/22
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
---
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your point being?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You make a solid point that if you start defining nationality by ethnicity it's a complex mess that's not helpful or relevant. Then immediately contradict yourself by declaring them 100% French.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So where is the contradiction exactly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In that you're deciding that these people are 100% French. Of course they'd call themselves French if they're playing for the France team etc but I bet you most first generation immigrants wouldn't call themselves 100% anything. Probably a lot of second generation immigrants would still have a lot of cultural influences from their parents that weren't born in their home country.
Maybe I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that. But what I'm getting at is that it's ok to not be binary about these things. Being 100% anything doesn't make sense and the idea of it encourages toxic nationalism. Which I know you're not trying to do there. But yeah.
posted on 15/12/22
Is Matty Cash 100% Polish? Who gives a fack. Shut up and direct your concern about the world to more important things if you're going to start caring. Like nurses having to go to food banks.
(Not directed at you Thorgen jus sayin)
posted on 15/12/22
Surprised at Saudi tbf, I was miles off it then. Although they have strict citizenship rules, like Qatar I thought some of their squad would be naturalised players born abroad.!
posted on 15/12/22
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
Surprised at Saudi tbf, I was miles off it then. Although they have strict citizenship rules, like Qatar I thought some of their squad would be naturalised players born abroad.!
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Id have thought Spanish / Portuguese would have featured for Brazil / Argentina tbf. Perhaps even Uruguay/Chile. Surprised Japan weren't 100%
posted on 15/12/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
This is EXACTLY why I’ll cheering on Argentina and my favourite player, Mac Allister
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guy called Alex Macallister with a ginger beard..... and you guys say Scotland aint at the world cup!
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A Scottish guy wearing an Argentina shirt, how original....
posted on 16/12/22
It isn't any surprise that many players who have dual options choose the stronger nation regardless of what their family/heart dictates.
Benzema quite openly said he only chose France for football reasons and he isn't the only one. No biggy, the rules are the rules, it is up to them if they wanna turn their back on their family roots or not.
People ask me why I haven't gotten US citizenship and my answer is simple, I am British and wouldn't want to claim any other nationality.
posted on 16/12/22
It's crazy how my half british/half South asian daughter could one day like easily become a Nigerian man if she wanted to......
Those brilliant and wonderfully talented people are African....
posted on 16/12/22
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 11 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the fac... (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
What does being French mean anyway?
...
They're 100% French
---
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your point being?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You make a solid point that if you start defining nationality by ethnicity it's a complex mess that's not helpful or relevant. Then immediately contradict yourself by declaring them 100% French.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So where is the contradiction exactly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In that you're deciding that these people are 100% French. Of course they'd call themselves French if they're playing for the France team etc but I bet you most first generation immigrants wouldn't call themselves 100% anything. Probably a lot of second generation immigrants would still have a lot of cultural influences from their parents that weren't born in their home country.
Maybe I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that. But what I'm getting at is that it's ok to not be binary about these things. Being 100% anything doesn't make sense and the idea of it encourages toxic nationalism. Which I know you're not trying to do there. But yeah.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They're 100% French in terms of the law. The law doesn't always care how someone sees themselves. You may even fancy yourself as a Martian but in the world you are English(assuming you are English) or whatever country's passport you hold.
I do get your point but in terms of representing your country, there is no binary. You have to chose which country to represent as you can't represent more than one country.
So in the context of football, the world cup and this article, they're 100% French as they hold French passports and are citizens of France.
So if I was to accept your pov, then tell me what percentage French they are and what percentage is the other? 50%? Maybe 70%?
How they view themselves is more personal. Society and government will have its own take.
posted on 16/12/22
comment by Cinciwolf---England lose, world cup saved. (U11551)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
It isn't any surprise that many players who have dual options choose the stronger nation regardless of what their family/heart dictates.
Benzema quite openly said he only chose France for football reasons and he isn't the only one. No biggy, the rules are the rules, it is up to them if they wanna turn their back on their family roots or not.
People ask me why I haven't gotten US citizenship and my answer is simple, I am British and wouldn't want to claim any other nationality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A lot of Benzema's family and roots are also in France. Also, it's just football. Don't be melodramatic. Playing for France is not turning your back on your family roots.
It's easy for someone like you to say how you would never do what Benzema did but at the end of the day you're a nobody, like everyone else on here. Benzema is Benzema. Easy to talk when it's not you, but I don't think you'd make a different decision than Benzema if you were rich, famous and brilliant at football.
His family probably want him to play for France as they want to see him win world cups and be remembered after he's gone.
You do you, Benzema will do Benzema.
posted on 16/12/22
comment by Shaun M - Livin da vi la Roca (U9955)
posted 17 hours, 44 minutes ago
According to FIFA, there were 137 players playing in the WC for countries they were not born in (16%)
Only 4 countries had a squads of only players born in that country,
Some of the bigger names include;
Pepe - Portugal / Brazil
L De Jong - Netherlands / Switzerland
Sterling - England / Jamaica
Koulibaly - Senegal / France
Alphonso Davies - Canada / Ghana
Harry Souttar - Australia / Scotland
French / African teams were the most populous. Tunisia had 11, Senegal 10, Cameroon and Morocco with 7 and Ghana had 6.
Morocco had 14 players out of their 26-man squad born overseas
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I'm born in the Netherlands but I will always be Moroccan. Those facking Dutch/ french people see us as Africans when we do bad things but Dutch or French when we are good at something. Comparable with that Scottish tennis player Murray. France would be an average team without those African players.
posted on 16/12/22
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
It's crazy how my half british/half South asian daughter could one day like easily become a Nigerian man if she wanted to......
Those brilliant and wonderfully talented people are African....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
howcomes your daughter can be half/half. yet black players born in france 100% cant be french?
posted on 16/12/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
It's crazy how my half british/half South asian daughter could one day like easily become a Nigerian man if she wanted to......
Those brilliant and wonderfully talented people are African....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
howcomes your daughter can be half/half. yet black players born in france 100% cant be french?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Britain is a country. South Asia is a region. How can a person be half one country and other half a region? These labels are ridiculous.
posted on 16/12/22
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - It's the facking world cup. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
It's crazy how my half british/half South asian daughter could one day like easily become a Nigerian man if she wanted to......
Those brilliant and wonderfully talented people are African....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
howcomes your daughter can be half/half. yet black players born in france 100% cant be french?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Britain is a country.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
someone .... anyone ??
posted on 16/12/22
The OP is certainly ridiculous
posted on 16/12/22
Will be tough for his daughter when shes older if she gets into sport at a high level.
Who to pick to represent:
England
or
South Asia
posted on 16/12/22
People ask me why I haven't gotten US citizenship and my answer is simple, I am British and wouldn't want to claim any other nationality.
———
You are English but claim to be Scottish.
posted on 16/12/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Will be tough for his daughter when shes older if she gets into sport at a high level.
Who to pick to represent:
England
or
South Asia
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or Britain
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