comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 8 seconds ago
Your owners had already accumulated the quality in your squad to consistently compete to win trophies and you have spent enough on the required quality to do this.
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Klopp didn't spend a penny in his first year and we made too finals... because he actually is world class.
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He still wouldn’t win anything with this current Spurs defence and would need funds to improve our defence. This is the frustrations with the fans because we are with Conte and feel he can finally land honours, but not with this current team. The defence needs reinforcements and it doesn’t look like he will be getting it
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 12 minutes ago
There were a few arsenal fans that used to say the kroenkes didnt invest enough, despite having one of the highest net spends in Europe.
The problem was the club spaffed the cash on utter shiiiiit.
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No you Tu.
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Et Tu, Darren?
I think net spend is bollooocks too (in most cases), was just trying to make a point here.
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Ah good. Please don’t ever post those words again.
Can't believe City haven't backed Pep.
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can't believe City haven't backed Pep.
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comparing Spurs to City
Whoever takes takes over from Conte if he leaves needs to know we need two top class CBs. If we signed Two top class CBs this team can perform without a manager. All the ingredients are there for a strong team
First Team : Subs
Son Kane Kulu : Richarlison/Gil
PEH Bentacur : Bissouma/Skipp/Sarr
Perisic RWB : Sess, Spence, Royal, *Udogie
CB CB Romero : Davies, Dier, Lenglet, Sanchez
Lloris : Forster
2 to 3 quality players away from having a very capable Squad/team
All on Paratici to pull two or three worldies in January then if Conte wants to leave..he can as the next manager will have a decent Squad.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can't believe City haven't backed Pep.
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comparing Spurs to City
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Spurs spent more so...
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can't believe City haven't backed Pep.
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comparing Spurs to City
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Spurs spent more so...
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debate over with. Clearly on the WUM.
You can't expect a self sufficient club like spurs to blow a load of money on a rwb when you've just spent 30m or so on Emerson.
You've also just made Romero a permanent signing (40m I think?). Again you can't expect too much more imo, particularly as you invested a lot of money on Sanchez, without much hope of making that money back on him.
You're not Chelsea, who could spaff loads of money up the wall until they got it right.
No really, Spurs spent more than City and yet you expect even more, despite not being a CL side or winning any trophies.
It's bizarre.
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Whoever takes takes over from Conte if he leaves needs to know we need two top class CBs. If we signed Two top class CBs this team can perform without a manager. All the ingredients are there for a strong team
First Team : Subs
Son Kane Kulu : Richarlison/Gil
PEH Bentacur : Bissouma/Skipp/Sarr
Perisic RWB : Sess, Spence, Royal, *Udogie
CB CB Romero : Davies, Dier, Lenglet, Sanchez
Lloris : Forster
2 to 3 quality players away from having a very capable Squad/team
All on Paratici to pull two or three worldies in January then if Conte wants to leave..he can as the next manager will have a decent Squad.
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Assuming the new manager wants to play a back 3. Why is levy going to spend big on two more CB's, when the next manager might not even play a back 5?
Regular CL side that should say
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 36 seconds ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Like Klopp, he still needs backing with quality. No chance Klopp does any different with this current Spurs defence. Not a hope in hell.
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The difference is that the focus would be on defending from the front rather than sitting deep. The fact that he accommodates Trent despite so many defensive failings suggests he would persist with someone like Spence because of what he offers going forward. For me it's not even in doubt. He would definitely make us a better, more successful team than Conte currently is.
It's strange. So many fear him leaving but they've conveniently forgotten the turgid football he has us playing and have we really improved all that much? Sure we're doing better than we were under Nuno and Jose but from what I can see, he's not even close to doing what Pochettino did with us playing better football. His unwillingness to rotate coupled with his passive concessive style means we're not equipped to play games every 4-5 days and expect consistent results. That exhaustion isn't happening at other teams because they're holding onto the ball more and suffering less fatigue as a result.
We'll part ways in the summer and I don't think there will be many Conte backers by then. I think Levy is banking on it.
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
You can't expect a self sufficient club like spurs to blow a load of money on a rwb when you've just spent 30m or so on Emerson.
You've also just made Romero a permanent signing (40m I think?). Again you can't expect too much more imo, particularly as you invested a lot of money on Sanchez, without much hope of making that money back on him.
You're not Chelsea, who could spaff loads of money up the wall until they got it right.
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I sometimes think Spurs fans forget which club they support.
There’s also the matter of big money failures like Lo Celso and Ndonkele still being on the books. It effects their ability to make signings when they are a drain on the accounts.
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
You can't expect a self sufficient club like spurs to blow a load of money on a rwb when you've just spent 30m or so on Emerson.
You've also just made Romero a permanent signing (40m I think?). Again you can't expect too much more imo, particularly as you invested a lot of money on Sanchez, without much hope of making that money back on him.
You're not Chelsea, who could spaff loads of money up the wall until they got it right.
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I sometimes think Spurs fans forget which club they support.
There’s also the matter of big money failures like Lo Celso and Ndonkele still being on the books. It effects their ability to make signings when they are a drain on the accounts.
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This is absolutely right. We are a club that doesn't have the capital to operate in the same way state owned clubs do so with that in mind, is Conte really the right fit? He's going to demand money we just don't have every single window. No matter how good he is with the right set of players, if he's not given them, why do we persist with him? Seems illogical to me. We need the right manager that fits the club policy best and that's Pochettino. It's as simple as that. We're just lucky he's not already been snapped up.
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
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And there we have it. You care more about the facilities and stuff going on outside of the football pitch than you do on it. That’s the issue with supporters like you who are so blinded by Levy pulling the wool over your eye. Yes, i can see we have built an incredible stadium and I applaud them for that, but when does that excuse start to wear thin? When are we supposed to see actual real success on the pitch and not off it? All i see is a chairman and owners that have spearheaded a massive campaign to fleece supporters, yet have 1 league trophy in 23 years to show for it. It’s supporters like you that are the issue and the reason why they keep getting away with it. Thankfully, the vast majority of the fan base are now seeing the truth.
comment by bestoftherest2021 (U22523)
posted 3 hours, 55 minutes ago
I agree with Levy on this,. You don;t wanna be giving money to Conte he could be off at the end of the season or before. Levy should have given the money to Poch.
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After some of Poch's purchases, I can fully see why Levy didn't give him any more. Poch wasted a hell if s lot of money on some right duds.
At least with Conte's purchases most have slotted straight into the 1st XL.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
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And there we have it. You care more about the facilities and stuff going on outside of the football pitch than you do on it. That’s the issue with supporters like you who are so blinded by Levy pulling the wool over your eye. Yes, i can see we have built an incredible stadium and I applaud them for that, but when does that excuse start to wear thin? When are we supposed to see actual real success on the pitch and not off it? All i see is a chairman and owners that have spearheaded a massive campaign to fleece supporters, yet have 1 league trophy in 23 years to show for it. It’s supporters like you that are the issue and the reason why they keep getting away with it. Thankfully, the vast majority of the fan base are now seeing the truth.
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Of course I don't and the two things aren't mutually exclusive. You're more blinkered than Sandy at times and you're not reading what I'm saying. I'm dealing in the pure facts. The club is, and has, spent a lot of money and is probably punching above it's wait for a non state owned club. Where it's gone wrong is that we've bought the wrong players, you even admit that yourself. We need to move away from this notion that we don't spend money and moan instead about how we spend it. We then might start getting somewhere with the owners. Ironically it's our "budget" buys that works out best for us so maybe something is working in the scouting system!
The only alternative is we sell to a state fund, rip the soul out of the club and sell out in the vain attempt at getting a trophy. It's supporters like you that's the problem. Maybe it's your age, I don't know, but football is more than just buying trophies. Go and support city if that's what you want.
Paratici is the man that needs the budget and needs to work with it. There are several players who's contracts are expiring. We don't need to spend much to strengthen. Ndicka, De Vrij, Skriniar, Malinovsky, Asensio, Trossard, De Gea, Singo, Sandro, Thuram, Aouar, Dahoud...all have contracts expiring in summer and none would cost more than 30m in January.
Lets stop making excuses for poor scouting and indecision by past management and administration. With 50m in January we can sign two upgrades on our weakest starting line up players like Emerson and Dier.
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
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And there we have it. You care more about the facilities and stuff going on outside of the football pitch than you do on it. That’s the issue with supporters like you who are so blinded by Levy pulling the wool over your eye. Yes, i can see we have built an incredible stadium and I applaud them for that, but when does that excuse start to wear thin? When are we supposed to see actual real success on the pitch and not off it? All i see is a chairman and owners that have spearheaded a massive campaign to fleece supporters, yet have 1 league trophy in 23 years to show for it. It’s supporters like you that are the issue and the reason why they keep getting away with it. Thankfully, the vast majority of the fan base are now seeing the truth.
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Of course I don't and the two things aren't mutually exclusive. You're more blinkered than Sandy at times and you're not reading what I'm saying. I'm dealing in the pure facts. The club is, and has, spent a lot of money and is probably punching above it's wait for a non state owned club. Where it's gone wrong is that we've bought the wrong players, you even admit that yourself. We need to move away from this notion that we don't spend money and moan instead about how we spend it. We then might start getting somewhere with the owners. Ironically it's our "budget" buys that works out best for us so maybe something is working in the scouting system!
The only alternative is we sell to a state fund, rip the soul out of the club and sell out in the vain attempt at getting a trophy. It's supporters like you that's the problem. Maybe it's your age, I don't know, but football is more than just buying trophies. Go and support city if that's what you want.
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I couldn’t careless about soul mate. That died a long time ago when clubs like City, Chelsea and now Newcastle started to get owners that ploughed money into the club. I want to see my club successful and if it means being taken over by some super rich entity, then so be it. If competing with them is doing that, then I’m all for it. Difference is, all you give a sh** about is bank balances, healthy position and how great we look off the field. I give a s** about how successful we are on it and how much i would love to see the club deliver success to the long suffering supporters. Success to you might be getting rich with Lady Gaga concerts and NFL games, but I couldn’t careless about that. It’s hardly propelled us to winning trophies has it? I want owners that mean business. So to answer your question, yes I would be happy with owners like City because it would mean i stand a chance of seeing my club win trophies for once
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 36 seconds ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Like Klopp, he still needs backing with quality. No chance Klopp does any different with this current Spurs defence. Not a hope in hell.
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The difference is that the focus would be on defending from the front rather than sitting deep. The fact that he accommodates Trent despite so many defensive failings suggests he would persist with someone like Spence because of what he offers going forward. For me it's not even in doubt. He would definitely make us a better, more successful team than Conte currently is.
It's strange. So many fear him leaving but they've conveniently forgotten the turgid football he has us playing and have we really improved all that much? Sure we're doing better than we were under Nuno and Jose but from what I can see, he's not even close to doing what Pochettino did with us playing better football. His unwillingness to rotate coupled with his passive concessive style means we're not equipped to play games every 4-5 days and expect consistent results. That exhaustion isn't happening at other teams because they're holding onto the ball more and suffering less fatigue as a result.
We'll part ways in the summer and I don't think there will be many Conte backers by then. I think Levy is banking on it.
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Poch was there five years and won nothing. So I think I will judge Conte over the same period.
No budget, Conte will run, just waiting
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
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And there we have it. You care more about the facilities and stuff going on outside of the football pitch than you do on it. That’s the issue with supporters like you who are so blinded by Levy pulling the wool over your eye. Yes, i can see we have built an incredible stadium and I applaud them for that, but when does that excuse start to wear thin? When are we supposed to see actual real success on the pitch and not off it? All i see is a chairman and owners that have spearheaded a massive campaign to fleece supporters, yet have 1 league trophy in 23 years to show for it. It’s supporters like you that are the issue and the reason why they keep getting away with it. Thankfully, the vast majority of the fan base are now seeing the truth.
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Of course I don't and the two things aren't mutually exclusive. You're more blinkered than Sandy at times and you're not reading what I'm saying. I'm dealing in the pure facts. The club is, and has, spent a lot of money and is probably punching above it's wait for a non state owned club. Where it's gone wrong is that we've bought the wrong players, you even admit that yourself. We need to move away from this notion that we don't spend money and moan instead about how we spend it. We then might start getting somewhere with the owners. Ironically it's our "budget" buys that works out best for us so maybe something is working in the scouting system!
The only alternative is we sell to a state fund, rip the soul out of the club and sell out in the vain attempt at getting a trophy. It's supporters like you that's the problem. Maybe it's your age, I don't know, but football is more than just buying trophies. Go and support city if that's what you want.
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I would be horrified if Spurs went down the financially doped route.
Levy should be commended for the new stadium, and for giving Spurs fans several seasons of CL football, which is highly commendable when they are up against the financially doped City and Chelsea, and the two biggest clubs in the country United and Liverpool.
You never hear Newcastle, Leeds even West Ham fans moan about lack of silverware. Their fans just get behind the team and support them.
Spurs definitely have some of the biggest whiners in football, and amazingly none of them ever set foot in WHL.
You never hear Newcastle, Leeds even West Ham fans moan about lack of silverware. Their fans just get behind the team and support them.
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They’ve been moaning about this for decades.
I think there is some confusion in the reporting.
We will not spend a lot because Conte is not committed. Of course he will not be backed financially how can you?
I have said since the start of the season he is leaving no intention of staying. He would of signed at the height of the "success" of last season.
Personally i would oust him now and bring in Poch. You would sell a player in january if he was out of contract at the end of the season.
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posted on 20/12/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 8 seconds ago
Your owners had already accumulated the quality in your squad to consistently compete to win trophies and you have spent enough on the required quality to do this.
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Klopp didn't spend a penny in his first year and we made too finals... because he actually is world class.
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He still wouldn’t win anything with this current Spurs defence and would need funds to improve our defence. This is the frustrations with the fans because we are with Conte and feel he can finally land honours, but not with this current team. The defence needs reinforcements and it doesn’t look like he will be getting it
posted on 20/12/22
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 12 minutes ago
There were a few arsenal fans that used to say the kroenkes didnt invest enough, despite having one of the highest net spends in Europe.
The problem was the club spaffed the cash on utter shiiiiit.
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No you Tu.
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Et Tu, Darren?
I think net spend is bollooocks too (in most cases), was just trying to make a point here.
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Ah good. Please don’t ever post those words again.
posted on 20/12/22
Can't believe City haven't backed Pep.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can't believe City haven't backed Pep.
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comparing Spurs to City
posted on 20/12/22
Whoever takes takes over from Conte if he leaves needs to know we need two top class CBs. If we signed Two top class CBs this team can perform without a manager. All the ingredients are there for a strong team
First Team : Subs
Son Kane Kulu : Richarlison/Gil
PEH Bentacur : Bissouma/Skipp/Sarr
Perisic RWB : Sess, Spence, Royal, *Udogie
CB CB Romero : Davies, Dier, Lenglet, Sanchez
Lloris : Forster
2 to 3 quality players away from having a very capable Squad/team
All on Paratici to pull two or three worldies in January then if Conte wants to leave..he can as the next manager will have a decent Squad.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can't believe City haven't backed Pep.
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comparing Spurs to City
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Spurs spent more so...
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Can't believe City haven't backed Pep.
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comparing Spurs to City
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Spurs spent more so...
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debate over with. Clearly on the WUM.
posted on 20/12/22
You can't expect a self sufficient club like spurs to blow a load of money on a rwb when you've just spent 30m or so on Emerson.
You've also just made Romero a permanent signing (40m I think?). Again you can't expect too much more imo, particularly as you invested a lot of money on Sanchez, without much hope of making that money back on him.
You're not Chelsea, who could spaff loads of money up the wall until they got it right.
posted on 20/12/22
No really, Spurs spent more than City and yet you expect even more, despite not being a CL side or winning any trophies.
It's bizarre.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Whoever takes takes over from Conte if he leaves needs to know we need two top class CBs. If we signed Two top class CBs this team can perform without a manager. All the ingredients are there for a strong team
First Team : Subs
Son Kane Kulu : Richarlison/Gil
PEH Bentacur : Bissouma/Skipp/Sarr
Perisic RWB : Sess, Spence, Royal, *Udogie
CB CB Romero : Davies, Dier, Lenglet, Sanchez
Lloris : Forster
2 to 3 quality players away from having a very capable Squad/team
All on Paratici to pull two or three worldies in January then if Conte wants to leave..he can as the next manager will have a decent Squad.
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Assuming the new manager wants to play a back 3. Why is levy going to spend big on two more CB's, when the next manager might not even play a back 5?
posted on 20/12/22
Regular CL side that should say
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 36 seconds ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Like Klopp, he still needs backing with quality. No chance Klopp does any different with this current Spurs defence. Not a hope in hell.
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The difference is that the focus would be on defending from the front rather than sitting deep. The fact that he accommodates Trent despite so many defensive failings suggests he would persist with someone like Spence because of what he offers going forward. For me it's not even in doubt. He would definitely make us a better, more successful team than Conte currently is.
It's strange. So many fear him leaving but they've conveniently forgotten the turgid football he has us playing and have we really improved all that much? Sure we're doing better than we were under Nuno and Jose but from what I can see, he's not even close to doing what Pochettino did with us playing better football. His unwillingness to rotate coupled with his passive concessive style means we're not equipped to play games every 4-5 days and expect consistent results. That exhaustion isn't happening at other teams because they're holding onto the ball more and suffering less fatigue as a result.
We'll part ways in the summer and I don't think there will be many Conte backers by then. I think Levy is banking on it.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
You can't expect a self sufficient club like spurs to blow a load of money on a rwb when you've just spent 30m or so on Emerson.
You've also just made Romero a permanent signing (40m I think?). Again you can't expect too much more imo, particularly as you invested a lot of money on Sanchez, without much hope of making that money back on him.
You're not Chelsea, who could spaff loads of money up the wall until they got it right.
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I sometimes think Spurs fans forget which club they support.
There’s also the matter of big money failures like Lo Celso and Ndonkele still being on the books. It effects their ability to make signings when they are a drain on the accounts.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
You can't expect a self sufficient club like spurs to blow a load of money on a rwb when you've just spent 30m or so on Emerson.
You've also just made Romero a permanent signing (40m I think?). Again you can't expect too much more imo, particularly as you invested a lot of money on Sanchez, without much hope of making that money back on him.
You're not Chelsea, who could spaff loads of money up the wall until they got it right.
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I sometimes think Spurs fans forget which club they support.
There’s also the matter of big money failures like Lo Celso and Ndonkele still being on the books. It effects their ability to make signings when they are a drain on the accounts.
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This is absolutely right. We are a club that doesn't have the capital to operate in the same way state owned clubs do so with that in mind, is Conte really the right fit? He's going to demand money we just don't have every single window. No matter how good he is with the right set of players, if he's not given them, why do we persist with him? Seems illogical to me. We need the right manager that fits the club policy best and that's Pochettino. It's as simple as that. We're just lucky he's not already been snapped up.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
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And there we have it. You care more about the facilities and stuff going on outside of the football pitch than you do on it. That’s the issue with supporters like you who are so blinded by Levy pulling the wool over your eye. Yes, i can see we have built an incredible stadium and I applaud them for that, but when does that excuse start to wear thin? When are we supposed to see actual real success on the pitch and not off it? All i see is a chairman and owners that have spearheaded a massive campaign to fleece supporters, yet have 1 league trophy in 23 years to show for it. It’s supporters like you that are the issue and the reason why they keep getting away with it. Thankfully, the vast majority of the fan base are now seeing the truth.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by bestoftherest2021 (U22523)
posted 3 hours, 55 minutes ago
I agree with Levy on this,. You don;t wanna be giving money to Conte he could be off at the end of the season or before. Levy should have given the money to Poch.
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After some of Poch's purchases, I can fully see why Levy didn't give him any more. Poch wasted a hell if s lot of money on some right duds.
At least with Conte's purchases most have slotted straight into the 1st XL.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
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And there we have it. You care more about the facilities and stuff going on outside of the football pitch than you do on it. That’s the issue with supporters like you who are so blinded by Levy pulling the wool over your eye. Yes, i can see we have built an incredible stadium and I applaud them for that, but when does that excuse start to wear thin? When are we supposed to see actual real success on the pitch and not off it? All i see is a chairman and owners that have spearheaded a massive campaign to fleece supporters, yet have 1 league trophy in 23 years to show for it. It’s supporters like you that are the issue and the reason why they keep getting away with it. Thankfully, the vast majority of the fan base are now seeing the truth.
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Of course I don't and the two things aren't mutually exclusive. You're more blinkered than Sandy at times and you're not reading what I'm saying. I'm dealing in the pure facts. The club is, and has, spent a lot of money and is probably punching above it's wait for a non state owned club. Where it's gone wrong is that we've bought the wrong players, you even admit that yourself. We need to move away from this notion that we don't spend money and moan instead about how we spend it. We then might start getting somewhere with the owners. Ironically it's our "budget" buys that works out best for us so maybe something is working in the scouting system!
The only alternative is we sell to a state fund, rip the soul out of the club and sell out in the vain attempt at getting a trophy. It's supporters like you that's the problem. Maybe it's your age, I don't know, but football is more than just buying trophies. Go and support city if that's what you want.
posted on 20/12/22
Paratici is the man that needs the budget and needs to work with it. There are several players who's contracts are expiring. We don't need to spend much to strengthen. Ndicka, De Vrij, Skriniar, Malinovsky, Asensio, Trossard, De Gea, Singo, Sandro, Thuram, Aouar, Dahoud...all have contracts expiring in summer and none would cost more than 30m in January.
Lets stop making excuses for poor scouting and indecision by past management and administration. With 50m in January we can sign two upgrades on our weakest starting line up players like Emerson and Dier.
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
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And there we have it. You care more about the facilities and stuff going on outside of the football pitch than you do on it. That’s the issue with supporters like you who are so blinded by Levy pulling the wool over your eye. Yes, i can see we have built an incredible stadium and I applaud them for that, but when does that excuse start to wear thin? When are we supposed to see actual real success on the pitch and not off it? All i see is a chairman and owners that have spearheaded a massive campaign to fleece supporters, yet have 1 league trophy in 23 years to show for it. It’s supporters like you that are the issue and the reason why they keep getting away with it. Thankfully, the vast majority of the fan base are now seeing the truth.
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Of course I don't and the two things aren't mutually exclusive. You're more blinkered than Sandy at times and you're not reading what I'm saying. I'm dealing in the pure facts. The club is, and has, spent a lot of money and is probably punching above it's wait for a non state owned club. Where it's gone wrong is that we've bought the wrong players, you even admit that yourself. We need to move away from this notion that we don't spend money and moan instead about how we spend it. We then might start getting somewhere with the owners. Ironically it's our "budget" buys that works out best for us so maybe something is working in the scouting system!
The only alternative is we sell to a state fund, rip the soul out of the club and sell out in the vain attempt at getting a trophy. It's supporters like you that's the problem. Maybe it's your age, I don't know, but football is more than just buying trophies. Go and support city if that's what you want.
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I couldn’t careless about soul mate. That died a long time ago when clubs like City, Chelsea and now Newcastle started to get owners that ploughed money into the club. I want to see my club successful and if it means being taken over by some super rich entity, then so be it. If competing with them is doing that, then I’m all for it. Difference is, all you give a sh** about is bank balances, healthy position and how great we look off the field. I give a s** about how successful we are on it and how much i would love to see the club deliver success to the long suffering supporters. Success to you might be getting rich with Lady Gaga concerts and NFL games, but I couldn’t careless about that. It’s hardly propelled us to winning trophies has it? I want owners that mean business. So to answer your question, yes I would be happy with owners like City because it would mean i stand a chance of seeing my club win trophies for once
posted on 20/12/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 36 seconds ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Like Klopp, he still needs backing with quality. No chance Klopp does any different with this current Spurs defence. Not a hope in hell.
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The difference is that the focus would be on defending from the front rather than sitting deep. The fact that he accommodates Trent despite so many defensive failings suggests he would persist with someone like Spence because of what he offers going forward. For me it's not even in doubt. He would definitely make us a better, more successful team than Conte currently is.
It's strange. So many fear him leaving but they've conveniently forgotten the turgid football he has us playing and have we really improved all that much? Sure we're doing better than we were under Nuno and Jose but from what I can see, he's not even close to doing what Pochettino did with us playing better football. His unwillingness to rotate coupled with his passive concessive style means we're not equipped to play games every 4-5 days and expect consistent results. That exhaustion isn't happening at other teams because they're holding onto the ball more and suffering less fatigue as a result.
We'll part ways in the summer and I don't think there will be many Conte backers by then. I think Levy is banking on it.
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Poch was there five years and won nothing. So I think I will judge Conte over the same period.
posted on 20/12/22
No budget, Conte will run, just waiting
posted on 20/12/22
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I didn't say I couldn't understand the fans frustrations, I said saying Spurs don't spend is utter bollox, because it is. It's not even up for debate.
I thought Conte was supposed to be world class anyway, he doesn't sound it from what you're writing.
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Don and a few others have always struggle to get a grip on this subject. We have always spent money.
They of course conveniently forget the billion invested in the new stadium and training ground, arguably the best in the world. I know this doesn't instantly buy you wins on the pitch but the fact they can't see how integral that is to the long term success of the club is beyond me. Why do they think every other club is desperately trying to do the same?! It needed to happen at some point and it was always going to come with some pain.
As for buying players, we've spent but generally spent badly. That doesn't all sit with Levy. He's told who to write the cheques for. It's the team around him that might need a change. Get that sorted and we should be in a good place.
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And there we have it. You care more about the facilities and stuff going on outside of the football pitch than you do on it. That’s the issue with supporters like you who are so blinded by Levy pulling the wool over your eye. Yes, i can see we have built an incredible stadium and I applaud them for that, but when does that excuse start to wear thin? When are we supposed to see actual real success on the pitch and not off it? All i see is a chairman and owners that have spearheaded a massive campaign to fleece supporters, yet have 1 league trophy in 23 years to show for it. It’s supporters like you that are the issue and the reason why they keep getting away with it. Thankfully, the vast majority of the fan base are now seeing the truth.
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Of course I don't and the two things aren't mutually exclusive. You're more blinkered than Sandy at times and you're not reading what I'm saying. I'm dealing in the pure facts. The club is, and has, spent a lot of money and is probably punching above it's wait for a non state owned club. Where it's gone wrong is that we've bought the wrong players, you even admit that yourself. We need to move away from this notion that we don't spend money and moan instead about how we spend it. We then might start getting somewhere with the owners. Ironically it's our "budget" buys that works out best for us so maybe something is working in the scouting system!
The only alternative is we sell to a state fund, rip the soul out of the club and sell out in the vain attempt at getting a trophy. It's supporters like you that's the problem. Maybe it's your age, I don't know, but football is more than just buying trophies. Go and support city if that's what you want.
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I would be horrified if Spurs went down the financially doped route.
Levy should be commended for the new stadium, and for giving Spurs fans several seasons of CL football, which is highly commendable when they are up against the financially doped City and Chelsea, and the two biggest clubs in the country United and Liverpool.
You never hear Newcastle, Leeds even West Ham fans moan about lack of silverware. Their fans just get behind the team and support them.
Spurs definitely have some of the biggest whiners in football, and amazingly none of them ever set foot in WHL.
posted on 20/12/22
You never hear Newcastle, Leeds even West Ham fans moan about lack of silverware. Their fans just get behind the team and support them.
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They’ve been moaning about this for decades.
posted on 20/12/22
I think there is some confusion in the reporting.
We will not spend a lot because Conte is not committed. Of course he will not be backed financially how can you?
I have said since the start of the season he is leaving no intention of staying. He would of signed at the height of the "success" of last season.
Personally i would oust him now and bring in Poch. You would sell a player in january if he was out of contract at the end of the season.
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