comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
So being a stupid f-ckwit means you’re not actually a ‘conscious racist‘.
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Intention is important in these judgments.
Racist opinions aren’t illegal. It’s the airing of them, and the intention in doing so that is the issue.
Clearly the FA are of the view that whilst his comments did offend, it wasn’t the guys intention.
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In that case, he can issue a standard "I'm sorry for any offence taken" statement and we can consider the matter resolved.
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After his ban, yeah. Unless clubs refuse to hire him.
If every profession took the same attitude
...
what profession would accept comments like the ones in the article
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
RDD
F-ck off you c-nt.
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Haha. You are the 3rd person to say that.
I guess I must just be lucky to share the opinions of public enemy number 1.
Iv never been on before. My cousin who uses, or did use the Liverpool board, put me on to it.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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There’d always be a job for him at the Daily Mail.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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But unlikely in such a PR aware industry as football.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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But unlikely in such a PR aware industry as football.
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But if it is bigoted, murderous regimes owning clubs then come on down!
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
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Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho.
...
he should be an outcast for as long as he thinks its acceptable to say discrimanatory comments in the workplace
murderers do get rehabbed as long as theyve shown remorse and changed their ways
if they carry on murdering theyre taken back out of society lol
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
So being a stupid f-ckwit means you’re not actually a ‘conscious racist‘.
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Intention is important in these judgments.
Racist opinions aren’t illegal. It’s the airing of them, and the intention in doing so that is the issue.
Clearly the FA are of the view that whilst his comments did offend, it wasn’t the guys intention.
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In that case, he can issue a standard "I'm sorry for any offence taken" statement and we can consider the matter resolved.
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After his ban, yeah. Unless clubs refuse to hire him.
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It's got absolutely nothing to do with legality and everything to do with being an absolute cuuuuuuuuunt.
He'll never work in the game again and rightly so.
Football management is a job where you can end up getting sacked for alienating the squad by simply throwing a player under the bus in an interview. Being a racist beeeellend isn’t going to wash with most players and clubs.
It’s pointless comparing it to other industries. It’s his own fault that he won’t work again in the game by being a stupid, racist priiiiiick.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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He’d be welcomed with open arms at the Conservative party
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
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Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it.
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Murder impacts many more people than friends and family! If a young child, for example, was murdered in this area it'd impact on pretty much all parents whether they know the victim or not.
What's mad is that he is in his 60's so that probably 40 years of him talking such shiiiiiiiiit in the workplace.
Sounds like a truly horrible individual and the sentence doesn't seem to match the crime. Typical FA.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
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Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it.
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Murder impacts many more people than friends and family! If a young child, for example, was murdered in this area it'd impact on pretty much all parents whether they know the victim or not.
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OK. But the point stands that racism impacts more.
Cant see him working in football again
were they delivered in anger, or did the guy laugh after he said them? both terrible but i assume their thinking is that because he was laughing he wasnt saying it out of hatred <shrug>
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 seconds ago
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
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It can only be that he has argued he didn't mean to offend and saw it as 'harmless banter'
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
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I'd have thought so
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posted on 18/1/23
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
So being a stupid f-ckwit means you’re not actually a ‘conscious racist‘.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Intention is important in these judgments.
Racist opinions aren’t illegal. It’s the airing of them, and the intention in doing so that is the issue.
Clearly the FA are of the view that whilst his comments did offend, it wasn’t the guys intention.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In that case, he can issue a standard "I'm sorry for any offence taken" statement and we can consider the matter resolved.
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After his ban, yeah. Unless clubs refuse to hire him.
posted on 18/1/23
If every profession took the same attitude
...
what profession would accept comments like the ones in the article
posted on 18/1/23
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
RDD
F-ck off you c-nt.
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Haha. You are the 3rd person to say that.
I guess I must just be lucky to share the opinions of public enemy number 1.
Iv never been on before. My cousin who uses, or did use the Liverpool board, put me on to it.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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There’d always be a job for him at the Daily Mail.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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But unlikely in such a PR aware industry as football.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But unlikely in such a PR aware industry as football.
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But if it is bigoted, murderous regimes owning clubs then come on down!
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it.
posted on 18/1/23
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho.
...
he should be an outcast for as long as he thinks its acceptable to say discrimanatory comments in the workplace
murderers do get rehabbed as long as theyve shown remorse and changed their ways
if they carry on murdering theyre taken back out of society lol
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
So being a stupid f-ckwit means you’re not actually a ‘conscious racist‘.
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Intention is important in these judgments.
Racist opinions aren’t illegal. It’s the airing of them, and the intention in doing so that is the issue.
Clearly the FA are of the view that whilst his comments did offend, it wasn’t the guys intention.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In that case, he can issue a standard "I'm sorry for any offence taken" statement and we can consider the matter resolved.
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After his ban, yeah. Unless clubs refuse to hire him.
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It's got absolutely nothing to do with legality and everything to do with being an absolute cuuuuuuuuunt.
He'll never work in the game again and rightly so.
posted on 18/1/23
Football management is a job where you can end up getting sacked for alienating the squad by simply throwing a player under the bus in an interview. Being a racist beeeellend isn’t going to wash with most players and clubs.
It’s pointless comparing it to other industries. It’s his own fault that he won’t work again in the game by being a stupid, racist priiiiiick.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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He’d be welcomed with open arms at the Conservative party
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it.
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Murder impacts many more people than friends and family! If a young child, for example, was murdered in this area it'd impact on pretty much all parents whether they know the victim or not.
posted on 18/1/23
What's mad is that he is in his 60's so that probably 40 years of him talking such shiiiiiiiiit in the workplace.
posted on 18/1/23
Sounds like a truly horrible individual and the sentence doesn't seem to match the crime. Typical FA.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
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Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it.
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Murder impacts many more people than friends and family! If a young child, for example, was murdered in this area it'd impact on pretty much all parents whether they know the victim or not.
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OK. But the point stands that racism impacts more.
posted on 18/1/23
Admin!
posted on 18/1/23
Cant see him working in football again
posted on 18/1/23
were they delivered in anger, or did the guy laugh after he said them? both terrible but i assume their thinking is that because he was laughing he wasnt saying it out of hatred <shrug>
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
posted on 18/1/23
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 seconds ago
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
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It can only be that he has argued he didn't mean to offend and saw it as 'harmless banter'
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
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I'd have thought so
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