The FA are pathetic. What more do they need, him in robes twirling a noose?
comment by Ignacio Varga (U11781)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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He’d be welcomed with open arms at the Conservative party
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Would he? Why is that?
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 seconds ago
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
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It can only be that he has argued he didn't mean to offend and saw it as 'harmless banter'
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Doesn't matter how he saw it. It matters what he said and how that is judged. Somehow the FA have judged that his comments don't make him racist. Any person in any job in the world would be sacked for any one of those statements. Any person in any other job in the world that's in the public domain but football would be sacked and never get another job in the field.
This stuff can't be seen as banter and if that's how he sees it then it proves he's racist.
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 seconds ago
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
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It can only be that he has argued he didn't mean to offend and saw it as 'harmless banter'
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Aye, there was also an accusation that he separated the white and black players too, and that players had complained about his language. So the “banter defence” doesn’t hold much water either, imo.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 36 seconds ago
The FA are pathetic. What more do they need, him in robes twirling a noose?
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It is ridiculous isnt it. Never has one organisation manged to shoot itself in the foot as much as the English FA.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
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I'd have thought so
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I can't believe we're the only ones who have seemingly noticed. It's a ridiculous statement!
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 seconds ago
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
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It can only be that he has argued he didn't mean to offend and saw it as 'harmless banter'
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Doesn't matter how he saw it. It matters what he said and how that is judged. Somehow the FA have judged that his comments don't make him racist. Any person in any job in the world would be sacked for any one of those statements. Any person in any other job in the world that's in the public domain but football would be sacked and never get another job in the field.
This stuff can't be seen as banter and if that's how he sees it then it proves he's racist.
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I'm.notnsaying that's right. Only that that is how the FA must have judged the situation.
He has been sacked. Not only sacked. Banned from working in his chosen profession.
Seems an educational issue to me. Thinks its still the 70's.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
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I'd have thought so
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I can't believe we're the only ones who have seemingly noticed. It's a ridiculous statement!
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What have I missed?
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
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I'd have thought so
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I can't believe we're the only ones who have seemingly noticed. It's a ridiculous statement!
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What’s been said. I can’t be bothered to scroll through all the comments.
Pnawn da, by the way, Diafol.
Pnawn da Babyen! S'mai?
It's this comment below that Robbing (I think) and me are on about!
"Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it."
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
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Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it.
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Murder impacts many more people than friends and family! If a young child, for example, was murdered in this area it'd impact on pretty much all parents whether they know the victim or not.
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Babyen the reply I gave is above. I had to check it wasn't Barry!
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
Pnawn da Babyen! S'mai?
It's this comment below that Robbing (I think) and me are on about!
"Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it."
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You would need to ask a person of colour, but I'd expect hearing of racism like this would upset / anger them more than the murder of a stranger would.
A person of colour
Fuсk me.
i thought POC is a term used quite often?
im sure i see businesses use it all alot
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
Pnawn da Babyen! S'mai?
It's this comment below that Robbing (I think) and me are on about!
"Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it."
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You would need to ask a person of colour, but I'd expect hearing of racism like this would upset / anger them more than the murder of a stranger would.
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comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
Admin!!!!!
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If you disagree fine, but what you asking the admin to do? Grow up.
dont think youve done anything wrong...
https://twitter.com/search?q=poc&src=typed_query
doesnt look like these people using the term are white either..
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
Admin!!!!!
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If you disagree fine, but what you asking the admin to do? Grow up.
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I'm asking admin to ban a sub normal beIlend who has been repeatedly removed from the site for talking absolute shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Ignacio Varga (U11781)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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He’d be welcomed with open arms at the Conservative party
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Would he? Why is that?
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There are many documented instances of Tory councillors and candidates coming out with explicitly racist views on their Facebook pages or at party functions without facing condemnation from their peers or sanctions from the party. This is not to say that all Tories are racists. But it would be a massive stretch to suggest that the Tory party, particularly at local level, has a zero tolerance to racism culture. At a national level it has also very clearly attempted to scapegoat immigrants for societal problems, to weaponise the fear of being swarmed by people who aren't like us, and to push a politics of cruelty toward asylum seekers.
"This is not to say that all Tories are racists"
Most are probably.
This is not to say that all Tories are racists.
….
Was all that was needed to be said.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
Admin!!!!!
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If you disagree fine, but what you asking the admin to do? Grow up.
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I'm asking admin to ban a sub normal beIlend who has been repeatedly removed from the site for talking absolute shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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Me?
Jesus christ. Are you kidding. Please don't engage with me again. This is supposed to be a football forum for god sake.
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
Admin!!!!!
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If you disagree fine, but what you asking the admin to do? Grow up.
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I'm asking admin to ban a sub normal beIlend who has been repeatedly removed from the site for talking absolute shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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Me?
Jesus christ. Are you kidding. Please don't engage with me again. This is supposed to be a football forum for god sake.
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I'm assuming you're RDD so yes, absolutely.
It's not my fault you write silly things on the internet to get attention regardless is it?
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posted on 18/1/23
The FA are pathetic. What more do they need, him in robes twirling a noose?
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Ignacio Varga (U11781)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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He’d be welcomed with open arms at the Conservative party
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Would he? Why is that?
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 seconds ago
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It can only be that he has argued he didn't mean to offend and saw it as 'harmless banter'
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Doesn't matter how he saw it. It matters what he said and how that is judged. Somehow the FA have judged that his comments don't make him racist. Any person in any job in the world would be sacked for any one of those statements. Any person in any other job in the world that's in the public domain but football would be sacked and never get another job in the field.
This stuff can't be seen as banter and if that's how he sees it then it proves he's racist.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 seconds ago
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
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It can only be that he has argued he didn't mean to offend and saw it as 'harmless banter'
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Aye, there was also an accusation that he separated the white and black players too, and that players had complained about his language. So the “banter defence” doesn’t hold much water either, imo.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 36 seconds ago
The FA are pathetic. What more do they need, him in robes twirling a noose?
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It is ridiculous isnt it. Never has one organisation manged to shoot itself in the foot as much as the English FA.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
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I'd have thought so
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I can't believe we're the only ones who have seemingly noticed. It's a ridiculous statement!
posted on 18/1/23
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 seconds ago
I think it’s bizarre they’ve deemed him not to be a “conscious racist” when his comments clearly show an understanding of stereotypes and which groups they refer to and a willingness to use them.
I’d understand if he’d used outdated terminology (coloured, half-caste etc), then apologised once he was corrected, but this isn’t that at all.
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It can only be that he has argued he didn't mean to offend and saw it as 'harmless banter'
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Doesn't matter how he saw it. It matters what he said and how that is judged. Somehow the FA have judged that his comments don't make him racist. Any person in any job in the world would be sacked for any one of those statements. Any person in any other job in the world that's in the public domain but football would be sacked and never get another job in the field.
This stuff can't be seen as banter and if that's how he sees it then it proves he's racist.
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I'm.notnsaying that's right. Only that that is how the FA must have judged the situation.
He has been sacked. Not only sacked. Banned from working in his chosen profession.
Seems an educational issue to me. Thinks its still the 70's.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
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I'd have thought so
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I can't believe we're the only ones who have seemingly noticed. It's a ridiculous statement!
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What have I missed?
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Admin!
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Is it for the same thing I'm thinking?
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I'd have thought so
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I can't believe we're the only ones who have seemingly noticed. It's a ridiculous statement!
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What’s been said. I can’t be bothered to scroll through all the comments.
Pnawn da, by the way, Diafol.
posted on 18/1/23
Pnawn da Babyen! S'mai?
It's this comment below that Robbing (I think) and me are on about!
"Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it."
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
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If EVERY profession issued a life ban?
FFS even murderers get rehab'd back into society.
My point is just that everyone should pay a penalty but be able to get back to earning a living else what is the point of carrying on their life? It is serious and he ought to suffer but not forever imho. Even Malky found a route back albeit at a lower level.
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Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it.
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Murder impacts many more people than friends and family! If a young child, for example, was murdered in this area it'd impact on pretty much all parents whether they know the victim or not.
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Babyen the reply I gave is above. I had to check it wasn't Barry!
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
Pnawn da Babyen! S'mai?
It's this comment below that Robbing (I think) and me are on about!
"Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it."
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You would need to ask a person of colour, but I'd expect hearing of racism like this would upset / anger them more than the murder of a stranger would.
posted on 18/1/23
Admin!!!!!
posted on 18/1/23
A person of colour
Fuсk me.
posted on 18/1/23
i thought POC is a term used quite often?
posted on 18/1/23
im sure i see businesses use it all alot
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
Pnawn da Babyen! S'mai?
It's this comment below that Robbing (I think) and me are on about!
"Murder only impacts the victim and friends and family. Racist thoughts impact anyone who encounters it."
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You would need to ask a person of colour, but I'd expect hearing of racism like this would upset / anger them more than the murder of a stranger would.
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posted on 18/1/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
Admin!!!!!
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If you disagree fine, but what you asking the admin to do? Grow up.
posted on 18/1/23
dont think youve done anything wrong...
https://twitter.com/search?q=poc&src=typed_query
doesnt look like these people using the term are white either..
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
Admin!!!!!
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If you disagree fine, but what you asking the admin to do? Grow up.
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I'm asking admin to ban a sub normal beIlend who has been repeatedly removed from the site for talking absolute shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Ignacio Varga (U11781)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 1 minute ago
ban or not no club in the world should touch him ever again
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He's 63 so its unlikely anyway but that's the bit I disagree with. If every profession took the same attitude then he'd never work at all and that is wrong.
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Why is it wrong? As far as most people with a brain are concerned there should be consequences for such racism.
He will always find employment with such like minded individuals anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He’d be welcomed with open arms at the Conservative party
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Would he? Why is that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are many documented instances of Tory councillors and candidates coming out with explicitly racist views on their Facebook pages or at party functions without facing condemnation from their peers or sanctions from the party. This is not to say that all Tories are racists. But it would be a massive stretch to suggest that the Tory party, particularly at local level, has a zero tolerance to racism culture. At a national level it has also very clearly attempted to scapegoat immigrants for societal problems, to weaponise the fear of being swarmed by people who aren't like us, and to push a politics of cruelty toward asylum seekers.
posted on 18/1/23
"This is not to say that all Tories are racists"
Most are probably.
posted on 18/1/23
This is not to say that all Tories are racists.
….
Was all that was needed to be said.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
Admin!!!!!
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If you disagree fine, but what you asking the admin to do? Grow up.
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I'm asking admin to ban a sub normal beIlend who has been repeatedly removed from the site for talking absolute shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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Me?
Jesus christ. Are you kidding. Please don't engage with me again. This is supposed to be a football forum for god sake.
posted on 18/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
Admin!!!!!
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If you disagree fine, but what you asking the admin to do? Grow up.
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I'm asking admin to ban a sub normal beIlend who has been repeatedly removed from the site for talking absolute shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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Me?
Jesus christ. Are you kidding. Please don't engage with me again. This is supposed to be a football forum for god sake.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm assuming you're RDD so yes, absolutely.
It's not my fault you write silly things on the internet to get attention regardless is it?
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