comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 16 minutes ago
I've not seen all the highlights but speaking to people at the game he should have been off.

Don't think the push was anything worth looking at. Happens all the time - a wee nudge to put someone off balance.
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I think if that’s the WC it’s 50:50 whether they protect the goalie or give the pen because they want to be seen to be interventionist?

Goalie came through the man after the ball in the head area which is interpreted as vulnerable therefore dangerous. Player pushes him into it which I agree is normal unpunished shenanigans at other times but in conjunction with the goalie play becomes doubly dangerous i.e. now with even more force. Then you add that the pusher jumps in to make the sandwich…I’ve seen these interpretations given.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
nice to read back and see the usual culprits up to their usual !!

welcome back Mr Resubscribe
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That’s a bit rich from the guy that did a stampy off the Scottish boards not so long ago.

If that's given against Celtic I'd imagine there would be a few words post match from Ange about these things not being evened out again.

Freeman should have been off, but that's the only controversy from our game imo.

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
nice to read back and see the usual culprits up to their usual !!

welcome back Mr Resubscribe
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That’s a bit rich from the guy that did a stampy off the Scottish boards not so long ago.
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not at all.

I said i would not be on here as much and pop on here sporadically which in comparison to the rest of the forum is pretty much the case.

id say its a bit rich of the guy that has had a couple of wee jibes at his expense since he left to then stick up for him.

get that spoon oot !! .............

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
nice to read back and see the usual culprits up to their usual !!

welcome back Mr Resubscribe
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That’s a bit rich from the guy that did a stampy off the Scottish boards not so long ago.
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not at all.

I said i would not be on here as much and pop on here sporadically which in comparison to the rest of the forum is pretty much the case.

id say its a bit rich of the guy that has had a couple of wee jibes at his expense since he left to then stick up for him.

get that spoon oot !! .............
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I’m sticking up for nobody if you read carefully. As usual you are interpreting bollix.

And if you can provide any jibes I’ve made about Lex I will be very surprised. If anything I take a bit of stick from some on here for enjoying Lex’s crazy input.

I can't quite understand why the Rangers penalty was given on Saturday yet the Goldson one at Tannadice wasn't nor was the one St Mirren didn't get at Tynecastle

Clark isn't a red, he's tried to pull his leg back, Jack isn't a red but it's a harder tackle than Clarks, straight leg, studs up, makes full contact with the boys ankle

I'm not paranoid but starting to see why so many are

the decision to overturn ours yesterday was spot on imo

however I've hardly seen a referee being told to overturn an on field decision, if that's in any other league I reckon that stays a penalty

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
nice to read back and see the usual culprits up to their usual !!

welcome back Mr Resubscribe
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That’s a bit rich from the guy that did a stampy off the Scottish boards not so long ago.
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not at all.

I said i would not be on here as much and pop on here sporadically which in comparison to the rest of the forum is pretty much the case.

id say its a bit rich of the guy that has had a couple of wee jibes at his expense since he left to then stick up for him.

get that spoon oot !! .............
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I’m sticking up for nobody if you read carefully. As usual you are interpreting bollix.

And if you can provide any jibes I’ve made about Lex I will be very surprised. If anything I take a bit of stick from some on here for enjoying Lex’s crazy input.
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look chief, I like your posts on here, your defo one of the better posters IMO.

but are you honestly denying that you havent had wee comments on him since he left? really?

tbh I dont really wanna go back and look for them would be almost impossible to find and they are littered throughout the site on different threads for different subjects.

One jibe about his mrs or non mrs, another jibe about him leaving.

Nothing bad at all but just wee jabs all acceptable.

but please dont say you didnt when you have.

All im saying is it was fun reading back ant the usual crowd piping up with the same tosh, and Mr Unsubscribe quickly went from coy and hi guys im back to full on Lex after a few mode.

I don't know if it is a pen on Kyogo (the one the keeper goes through him), however, I thought VAR was for when it was a clear and obvious error made by the ref. If he gives the penalty then it was not clear enough that it was not a foul to overturn it, likewise not giving it would be difficult to then give it. As i said I thought VAR was for clear and obvious errors.

As for the Kyogo shirt grab, if we give them all then we'd all end up with a penalty count like Rangers. You want it if it is your side but raging if given against you. To be fair I didn't even know about that one until today on Twitter which tells you everything you need to know about how controversial it was during the game.

I thought VAR was for when it was a clear and obvious error made by the ref. If he gives the penalty then it was not clear enough that it was not a foul to overturn it, likewise not giving it would be difficult to then give it. As i said I thought VAR was for clear and obvious errors.


100% my interpretation of VAR

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted less than a minute ago
I thought VAR was for when it was a clear and obvious error made by the ref. If he gives the penalty then it was not clear enough that it was not a foul to overturn it, likewise not giving it would be difficult to then give it. As i said I thought VAR was for clear and obvious errors.


100% my interpretation of VAR
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i think that was the case,

but it works better if they just review the big decision IMO.

its ok the ref just made a small mistake, or he just slightly made the wrong call.

I dont think it should matter how wrong the ref got it , all major decisions should be reviewed IMO.

Problem with the decisions this weekend, this season really, is that many are subjective, and could go either way we’d much rather them go with a consistent approach that what we’ve seen from many refs and VARs this season.

I think it's testament to Celtic that we've managed to build up and maintain a 9 point gap despite the horrendous VAR decisions we've been on the end of

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 32 minutes ago
I thought VAR was for when it was a clear and obvious error made by the ref. If he gives the penalty then it was not clear enough that it was not a foul to overturn it, likewise not giving it would be difficult to then give it. As i said I thought VAR was for clear and obvious errors.


100% my interpretation of VAR
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Agreed.

Again though, comes down to interpretation. One ref clearly saw yesterdays decision as an obvious error, another might not.

The lack of consistency is the major issue.

Look Chief 🤣
Tell the truth and don't force me to trawl through all of your old posts to find some evidence about a trivial matter that i just created a fictitious argument about.

This is the kind of nonsense that has killed this site.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted less than a minute ago
I thought VAR was for when it was a clear and obvious error made by the ref. If he gives the penalty then it was not clear enough that it was not a foul to overturn it, likewise not giving it would be difficult to then give it. As i said I thought VAR was for clear and obvious errors.


100% my interpretation of VAR
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i think that was the case,

but it works better if they just review the big decision IMO.

its ok the ref just made a small mistake, or he just slightly made the wrong call.

I dont think it should matter how wrong the ref got it , all major decisions should be reviewed IMO.
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With the “clear and obvious” criteria, in theory VAR should be able to commit to a service level agreement. If it can’t be resolved in 60 secs with multiple HD camera angles … it’s by definition NOT clear and obvious.

Labouring over slow-mos and scouring the rule book indefinitely, to ‘rethink’ ALL the big decisions would kill the game.

comment by Magnum (2 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
Look Chief 🤣
Tell the truth and don't force me to trawl through all of your old posts to find some evidence about a trivial matter that i just created a fictitious argument about.

This is the kind of nonsense that has killed this site.
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oh its the guy who doesnt want me to interact with hi on here that filtered me to avoid interaction with me who has specifically asked me not to reply to him or talk about him ......... interacting with me.

have a good day sir.

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think it's testament to Celtic that we've managed to build up and maintain a 9 point gap despite the horrendous VAR decisions we've been on the end of
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This had been my point for a while now.

If Celtic weren't nine points ahead, I would want an investigation into these crazy/stupid decisions, because they could've decided the Title (and might still will) In any other business it would go to court.

Rangers have had every decision going, loads of pens, loads of opposition red cards.

It's a farce man.

Collum should not be a Scottish Referee, it's that simple.

The poor officiating could also decide who is relegated, which is of far more importance given the financial consequences of relegation.

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
The poor officiating could also decide who is relegated, which is of far more importance given the financial consequences of relegation.
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Absolutey.

What if these sheite decisions end up costing a club millions in UCL monies or like you say, extra cash for staying in the Scottish Premiership?

Why is incompetence tolerated in our officials..?

VAR was supposed to improve things.

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 minutes ago
The poor officiating could also decide who is relegated, which is of far more importance given the financial consequences of relegation.
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this has always been the case in any league in ay country for any team.

its the very reason VAR was brought it cos people wanted it brought in.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 minutes ago
The poor officiating could also decide who is relegated, which is of far more importance given the financial consequences of relegation.
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this has always been the case in any league in ay country for any team.

its the very reason VAR was brought it cos people wanted it brought in.


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People saw it as an easy fix when in fact resources should have been ploughed into the recruitment and training of young, talented referees.

comment by Zico 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (U21900)
posted about a minute ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
The poor officiating could also decide who is relegated, which is of far more importance given the financial consequences of relegation.
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Absolutey.

What if these sheite decisions end up costing a club millions in UCL monies or like you say, extra cash for staying in the Scottish Premiership?

Why is incompetence tolerated in our officials..?

VAR was supposed to improve things.
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then it will be same as before.

poor decisions costing teams has always been a part of football.

refs are human just like players they will make mistakes all the time. A pen should be as straight forward as they come for a player they shouldnt be missing, but they do.

refs will make errors they shouldnt but they are human taking part in a high pressure situation even with technology they will make errors. the same as you and I and every other human on the planet.

Refs should be asked to declare which team they support every other country does it but we don’t what are we hiding? Refs should also be encouraged to be trained and selected from all over Scotland not the majority from Glasgow, Lanarkshire and the SW. it would 100% appease most fans , really not sure why we don’t tbh.

comment by Lexballielegend (U22945)
posted 3 minutes ago
Refs should be asked to declare which team they support every other country does it but we don’t what are we hiding? Refs should also be encouraged to be trained and selected from all over Scotland not the majority from Glasgow, Lanarkshire and the SW. it would 100% appease most fans , really not sure why we don’t tbh.
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I've made that point on here multiple times over the years.

The SFA should be in the schools nationwide getting kids who love football into refereeing.