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comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 23/2/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 54 seconds ago
If I had the chance of walking up to a serial killer and child rapist and pulling the trigger I would do so without breaking a sweat.

If I was told that if I did so I would face the death penalty I wouldnt, therefore it 100% is a deterrent. That may not be the case for anyone else but the fact that it would deter me means that it 100% is one but it wouldnt reflect how effective it is.
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30 years in the clink not enough?

I don't believe you for a second I'm afraid and I d9ubt anyone else does either.
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were not talking about jail were talking about the death penalty ... I would be discourqaged far more from the death penalty than I would jail.


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Hope you appreciate being teed up, mate?

Jail is clearly not a deterrent because Begum would rather be in a UK jail that have her complete freedom in Syria.

posted on 23/2/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 54 seconds ago
If I had the chance of walking up to a serial killer and child rapist and pulling the trigger I would do so without breaking a sweat.

If I was told that if I did so I would face the death penalty I wouldnt, therefore it 100% is a deterrent. That may not be the case for anyone else but the fact that it would deter me means that it 100% is one but it wouldnt reflect how effective it is.
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30 years in the clink not enough?

I don't believe you for a second I'm afraid and I d9ubt anyone else does either.
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were not talking about jail were talking about the death penalty ... I would be discourqaged far more from the death penalty than I would jail.


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No we're talking about the death penalty as a greater deterrent than incarceration. Obviously.

Tbh I reckon I'd rather die than do 30 years inside an American jail. I'm quite pretty.

posted on 23/2/23

Like I said were arguing over whether or not it would be a deterrent (a dterrent is something that discourages you NOT stop you like some seem to think on here).

It would discourage meI cant speak on anyone elses behalf but I can mine. It would discourage me so by that measure it is a deterrent , no ifs no buts.

there is a far better argument over whether it would be an effective deterrent which is a completely different question.

posted on 23/2/23

comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 54 seconds ago
If I had the chance of walking up to a serial killer and child rapist and pulling the trigger I would do so without breaking a sweat.

If I was told that if I did so I would face the death penalty I wouldnt, therefore it 100% is a deterrent. That may not be the case for anyone else but the fact that it would deter me means that it 100% is one but it wouldnt reflect how effective it is.
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30 years in the clink not enough?

I don't believe you for a second I'm afraid and I d9ubt anyone else does either.
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were not talking about jail were talking about the death penalty ... I would be discourqaged far more from the death penalty than I would jail.


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No we're talking about the death penalty as a greater deterrent than incarceration. Obviously.

Tbh I reckon I'd rather die than do 30 years inside an American jail. I'm quite pretty.
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no the argumnent has been the death penalty is NOT a detterent . Nothing been argued from you as to talking about its efficiency

posted on 23/2/23

Scottish Winston at it again.

Okay bud, whatever.

posted on 23/2/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 54 seconds ago
If I had the chance of walking up to a serial killer and child rapist and pulling the trigger I would do so without breaking a sweat.

If I was told that if I did so I would face the death penalty I wouldnt, therefore it 100% is a deterrent. That may not be the case for anyone else but the fact that it would deter me means that it 100% is one but it wouldnt reflect how effective it is.
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30 years in the clink not enough?

I don't believe you for a second I'm afraid and I d9ubt anyone else does either.
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were not talking about jail were talking about the death penalty ... I would be discourqaged far more from the death penalty than I would jail.


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Hope you appreciate being teed up, mate?

Jail is clearly not a deterrent because Begum would rather be in a UK jail that have her complete freedom in Syria.
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like I said deterrent does not mean STOP. it means discourage.

posted on 23/2/23

now your saying jail isnt a deterrent ?!

like I said you dont know the meanig of the wor dor the argument your having.

Your whole argument has been the death penalty is NOT a deterrent its never been an argument over which is the more effective deterrent.

posted on 23/2/23

Unless you're sub normal or on the spectrum it really is quite clear that this is about the death penalty being MORE of a deterrent. There are literally links about directly comparing the two above from seperate people.

You're all over the place again.

posted on 23/2/23

It’s not that relevant when comparing it to people joining ISIS anyway. These people have been radicalised, they wouldn’t have had intentions of coming back to Britain to face punishment if they were caught. It’s pretty obvious the big failure here was insufficient preventive measures to stop these people becoming radicalised, rather trying to deter them with threats of losing their rights and their life (the latter many would argue would encourage them to leave to become martyrs in the event they are brought back and executed by the British state).

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 23/2/23

Over the course of my many years on this earth, I've found that people that say "oh I would definitely do XYZ and no law would stop me" are generally boolshitters.

Not one of us knows definitively how we would react in any given situation.

posted on 23/2/23

If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.

posted on 23/2/23

comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
Unless you're sub normal or on the spectrum it really is quite clear that this is about the death penalty being MORE of a deterrent. There are literally links about directly comparing the two above from seperate people.

You're all over the place again.
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Hmmm funny cos you have repeatedly said its NOT a deterrent.

this is the first time in the entire thread you have now taken up the argument of if its MORE of a deterrent than any other method. I cant see anything from you arguing this all I could find was you saying the death penalty is not a deterrent.

heres the actual quotes:

"“It’s never been a deterrent.”

“I get that the death penalty hasn't been a deterent to murder”


what say you now?

posted on 23/2/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 21 minutes ago
If I had the chance of walking up to a serial killer and child rapist and pulling the trigger I would do so without breaking a sweat.

If I was told that if I did so I would face the death penalty I wouldnt, therefore it 100% is a deterrent. That may not be the case for anyone else but the fact that it would deter me means that it 100% is one but it wouldnt reflect how effective it is.
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Ok, so you have revenge fantasies.

I just don’t think most people who join an actual death cult care about deterrents.

posted on 23/2/23

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.
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I feared getting arrested from the cops everytime I filled my rucksack at lunch with my mates at school.

still did it.

posted on 23/2/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.
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I feared getting arrested from the cops everytime I filled my rucksack at lunch with my mates at school.

still did it.
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Yeah because those two things are comparable.

posted on 23/2/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.
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I feared getting arrested from the cops everytime I filled my rucksack at lunch with my mates at school.

still did it.
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Why you get arrested for having a packed lunch?

posted on 23/2/23

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 21 minutes ago
If I had the chance of walking up to a serial killer and child rapist and pulling the trigger I would do so without breaking a sweat.

If I was told that if I did so I would face the death penalty I wouldnt, therefore it 100% is a deterrent. That may not be the case for anyone else but the fact that it would deter me means that it 100% is one but it wouldnt reflect how effective it is.
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Ok, so you have revenge fantasies.

I just don’t think most people who join an actual death cult care about deterrents.
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My argument with people on here is them saying the death penalty is not a deterrent, its never been that some will and most wont.

its against Hoody saying its not a deterrent repeatedly

posted on 23/2/23

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.
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I feared getting arrested from the cops everytime I filled my rucksack at lunch with my mates at school.

still did it.
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Why you get arrested for having a packed lunch?
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* i should have added whilst at the local shop

posted on 23/2/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.
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I feared getting arrested from the cops everytime I filled my rucksack at lunch with my mates at school.

still did it.
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You shouldn't have filled it with Class A drugs then.

posted on 23/2/23

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.
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I feared getting arrested from the cops everytime I filled my rucksack at lunch with my mates at school.

still did it.
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Yeah because those two things are comparable.
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its not about comparing its about committing a crime despite having fear of the repercussions.

If my dad found out it wouldnt be far off the death penalty !

posted on 23/2/23

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.
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I feared getting arrested from the cops everytime I filled my rucksack at lunch with my mates at school.

still did it.
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You shouldn't have filled it with Class A drugs then.
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im from Glasgow ... wtf else am I gonna fill it with

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 23/2/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.
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I feared getting arrested from the cops everytime I filled my rucksack at lunch with my mates at school.

still did it.
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You shouldn't have filled it with Class A drugs then.
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im from Glasgow ... wtf else am I gonna fill it with
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That's it! Begum was promised a ruksack full of jelly...

posted on 23/2/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
If these people really feared death they wouldn’t have left Britain to join a facking war in the Middle East.
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I feared getting arrested from the cops everytime I filled my rucksack at lunch with my mates at school.

still did it.
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You shouldn't have filled it with Class A drugs then.
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im from Glasgow ... wtf else am I gonna fill it with
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Knives, obviously

posted on 23/2/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 23 minutes ago
Like I said were arguing over whether or not it would be a deterrent (a dterrent is something that discourages you NOT stop you like some seem to think on here).

It would discourage meI cant speak on anyone elses behalf but I can mine. It would discourage me so by that measure it is a deterrent , no ifs no buts.

there is a far better argument over whether it would be an effective deterrent which is a completely different question.
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An self-constructed anecdotal data point is not a good argument bud.

posted on 23/2/23

You literally compared them.

If you think fear of repercussions, death being one, would enter into the thinking of these radicalised children going to a warzone then I really don’t know what to say.

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