comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 28 seconds ago
Britain profited greatly from the save trade.
It was also at the forefront of its abolition if you know the history of the Boer War or the annexing of Zanzibar just to use 2 examples.
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Didn't we use concentration camps in the Boer War?
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 28 seconds ago
Britain profited greatly from the save trade.
It was also at the forefront of its abolition if you know the history of the Boer War or the annexing of Zanzibar just to use 2 examples.
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Didn't we use concentration camps in the Boer War?
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Yeah we invented them. I only knew that because Jacob Rees-Mogg said it once. He looked almost proud.
pc gone mad its none of anyones business what i own or do with my property and same goes for back then who are we too say what people can and cannot own
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Britain profited greatly from the save trade.
It was also at the forefront of its abolition if you know the history of the Boer War or the annexing of Zanzibar just to use 2 examples.
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This is true but as usual you just brush past the first part but expound the second part. You could at least add some meat to the bone of the first statement by detailing Britain's unmatched funding and basically sustaining a large part of the trade for an unbelievably long time.
They did all these while being the originators of the 1215 Magna Carta, and signatories to many other human rights charters. They had to pretend black people aren't human so as to mean that human rights didn't apply to them and escape their own laws on human rights.
comment by Boy F7-0m The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 seconds ago
Britain profited greatly from the save trade.
It was also at the forefront of its abolition if you know the history of the Boer War or the annexing of Zanzibar just to use 2 examples.
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Every country in history has benefitted through slavery at some point in history.
Slavery is not the exception in human history, it’s the rule.
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OK. Tell me how Lesotho ever benefiited from slavery.
Technically, you're not wrong but this is like Boris Johnson stealing billions from the tax payer to give his already rich friends and then in his defence he says, "some people steal chickens and shoplift. Everyone has benefitted from stealing".
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
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Of course not
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
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It was an opinion piece in the Guardian where one of the writer's friends suggested they look at the implications of the ship on Manchester's coat of arms. It got sensationalised within the peice to include the clubs, then it got picked up by other papers who added the 'call to' bit. Same old same old.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
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Lemn Sissay, the Manchester poet, said "we are all looking closer" and has suggested his city "needs to know it" if the ships represent slavery.
Lol Lemn Sissay thinks we need to look closer.
Translation: OMG THE WHOLE WORLD HAS GONE MAD
As I said at the start of the thread it's all click bait designed to elicit the reactions you see on this thread, sell papers and sheet like that.
People need to ask themselves why the media find such fertile grounds to make money and remain relevant in the culture wars? Why is this topic so palatable and generates money for them?
It only exists because people who think people are too easily upset are easily upset about people being too easily upset, whilst nothing actually happened.
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
The industrial revolution included iron, steel Re Sheffield, wool in Yorkshire. It wasn't just cotton mills.
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Yeah, I think the underlying point they're trying to make is how the cotton was produced before it got here. It's just manufactured outrage.
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I get that, but a view was expressed that the industrial revolution came about because of colonisation and slavery.
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It did.
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It didn’t come about exclusively because of colonialism.
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Yeah, slavery had a role too.
My bad.
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Hahaha son of a
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
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It was an opinion piece in the Guardian where one of the writer's friends suggested they look at the implications of the ship on Manchester's coat of arms. It got sensationalised within the peice to include the clubs, then it got picked up by other papers who added the 'call to' bit. Same old same old.
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Tory’s gonna Tory.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was an opinion piece in the Guardian where one of the writer's friends suggested they look at the implications of the ship on Manchester's coat of arms. It got sensationalised within the peice to include the clubs, then it got picked up by other papers who added the 'call to' bit. Same old same old.
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Tory’s gonna Tory.
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Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
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Preferably with a graph
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
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Preferably with a graph
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A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
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Preferably with a graph
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A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
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You might be too into this. Should I be worried?
K7. How did the birth of steel benefit from slavery or colonisation?
What exactly are you referring to by "the birth of steel"?
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
What exactly are you referring to by "the birth of steel"?
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Tjat sounds panefull
comment by #4zA - Sto pazziann (U22472)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
What exactly are you referring to by "the birth of steel"?
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Tjat sounds panefull
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I'm sure it was painful for someone.
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Preferably with a graph
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
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You might be too into this. Should I be worried?
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Probably not. Depends. What colour are you?
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Preferably with a graph
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might be too into this. Should I be worried?
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Probably not. Depends. What colour are you?
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comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Preferably with a graph
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A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might be too into this. Should I be worried?
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Probably not. Depends. What colour are you?
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posted on 20/4/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 28 seconds ago
Britain profited greatly from the save trade.
It was also at the forefront of its abolition if you know the history of the Boer War or the annexing of Zanzibar just to use 2 examples.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't we use concentration camps in the Boer War?
posted on 20/4/23
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 28 seconds ago
Britain profited greatly from the save trade.
It was also at the forefront of its abolition if you know the history of the Boer War or the annexing of Zanzibar just to use 2 examples.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't we use concentration camps in the Boer War?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah we invented them. I only knew that because Jacob Rees-Mogg said it once. He looked almost proud.
posted on 20/4/23
pc gone mad its none of anyones business what i own or do with my property and same goes for back then who are we too say what people can and cannot own
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Britain profited greatly from the save trade.
It was also at the forefront of its abolition if you know the history of the Boer War or the annexing of Zanzibar just to use 2 examples.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is true but as usual you just brush past the first part but expound the second part. You could at least add some meat to the bone of the first statement by detailing Britain's unmatched funding and basically sustaining a large part of the trade for an unbelievably long time.
They did all these while being the originators of the 1215 Magna Carta, and signatories to many other human rights charters. They had to pretend black people aren't human so as to mean that human rights didn't apply to them and escape their own laws on human rights.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Boy F7-0m The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 seconds ago
Britain profited greatly from the save trade.
It was also at the forefront of its abolition if you know the history of the Boer War or the annexing of Zanzibar just to use 2 examples.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every country in history has benefitted through slavery at some point in history.
Slavery is not the exception in human history, it’s the rule.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OK. Tell me how Lesotho ever benefiited from slavery.
Technically, you're not wrong but this is like Boris Johnson stealing billions from the tax payer to give his already rich friends and then in his defence he says, "some people steal chickens and shoplift. Everyone has benefitted from stealing".
posted on 20/4/23
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course not
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was an opinion piece in the Guardian where one of the writer's friends suggested they look at the implications of the ship on Manchester's coat of arms. It got sensationalised within the peice to include the clubs, then it got picked up by other papers who added the 'call to' bit. Same old same old.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lemn Sissay, the Manchester poet, said "we are all looking closer" and has suggested his city "needs to know it" if the ships represent slavery.
Lol Lemn Sissay thinks we need to look closer.
Translation: OMG THE WHOLE WORLD HAS GONE MAD
posted on 20/4/23
As I said at the start of the thread it's all click bait designed to elicit the reactions you see on this thread, sell papers and sheet like that.
People need to ask themselves why the media find such fertile grounds to make money and remain relevant in the culture wars? Why is this topic so palatable and generates money for them?
posted on 20/4/23
It only exists because people who think people are too easily upset are easily upset about people being too easily upset, whilst nothing actually happened.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
The industrial revolution included iron, steel Re Sheffield, wool in Yorkshire. It wasn't just cotton mills.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, I think the underlying point they're trying to make is how the cotton was produced before it got here. It's just manufactured outrage.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get that, but a view was expressed that the industrial revolution came about because of colonisation and slavery.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It did.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It didn’t come about exclusively because of colonialism.
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Yeah, slavery had a role too.
My bad.
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Hahaha son of a
posted on 20/4/23
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was an opinion piece in the Guardian where one of the writer's friends suggested they look at the implications of the ship on Manchester's coat of arms. It got sensationalised within the peice to include the clubs, then it got picked up by other papers who added the 'call to' bit. Same old same old.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tory’s gonna Tory.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Are they actually facing calls to change the badge, though?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was an opinion piece in the Guardian where one of the writer's friends suggested they look at the implications of the ship on Manchester's coat of arms. It got sensationalised within the peice to include the clubs, then it got picked up by other papers who added the 'call to' bit. Same old same old.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tory’s gonna Tory.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 20/4/23
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Preferably with a graph
posted on 20/4/23
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Preferably with a graph
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Preferably with a graph
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might be too into this. Should I be worried?
posted on 20/4/23
K7. How did the birth of steel benefit from slavery or colonisation?
posted on 20/4/23
What exactly are you referring to by "the birth of steel"?
posted on 20/4/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
What exactly are you referring to by "the birth of steel"?
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Tjat sounds panefull
posted on 20/4/23
comment by #4zA - Sto pazziann (U22472)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
What exactly are you referring to by "the birth of steel"?
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Tjat sounds panefull
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I'm sure it was painful for someone.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Preferably with a graph
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might be too into this. Should I be worried?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably not. Depends. What colour are you?
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Preferably with a graph
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might be too into this. Should I be worried?
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Probably not. Depends. What colour are you?
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posted on 20/4/23
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tyler French (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Could do a reeaaally bad but fun parody of a tory arguing that when we had them under control there was far less gun crime etc. Now look at all of the crime in America etc. You know where I am going with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Preferably with a graph
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A graph showing gun crime over time with time on the X axis with it marked where we stopped keeping them as slaves. Maybe project into the future with the scenario of us keeping them as slaves again and projecting gun crime going back down to slavery levels.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might be too into this. Should I be worried?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably not. Depends. What colour are you?
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