I'm sure everyone's learned so much in this thread about what's gone wrong in society for Tate to receive a platform and can reference this thread anytime they want to gain knowledge on what the root cause is.
Ja606 showing itself to be the pinnacle of mature debate once again.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
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You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
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Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
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You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
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You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
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You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
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You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 hours, 2 minutes ago
I'm sure everyone's learned so much in this thread about what's gone wrong in society for Tate to receive a platform and can reference this thread anytime they want to gain knowledge on what the root cause is.
Ja606 showing itself to be the pinnacle of mature debate once again.
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Nice one Jesus.
What's the best way to live life? Asking for ja606?
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
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You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
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I assume he means that there are less religious people than there are religious in the UK. I don't even think that is accurate. The last consensus in 2021 was the first time that less than 50% of the population described themselves as Christian. Once you add the other religions in it is still the majority that consider themselves religious.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
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If you think the UK is religious you have lost your fackin mind.
Wasn’t about 35% non religious in the last census?
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 29 seconds ago
Wasn’t about 35% non religious in the last census?
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is it fack.
I would say that loads would get baptised but that doesn't equal being religious, more a hand me down from generations before and a done thing. The UK is one of the least religious countries on the planet when it comes to actually practicing religion though.
my mum would be a great example. She is 85 and would if asked say she is religious. She hasn't been to church for nigh on 50-60 years.
That’s what the results were. Practicing and identifying as religious are different things. The UK may be one of the least religious countries in the world, but that doesn’t mean it’s the majority. Which is why it’s still quite funny to suggest that being irreligious is conformist.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 29 seconds ago
Wasn’t about 35% non religious in the last census?
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is it fack.
I would say that loads would get baptised but that doesn't equal being religious, more a hand me down from generations before and a done thing. The UK is one of the least religious countries on the planet when it comes to actually practicing religion though.
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I think it is in the top 5 for non-believers.
But almost half the population describe themselves as Christian.
Either way, the UK certainly isn't a society without religion.
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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This ^^^^
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
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I assume he means that there are less religious people than there are religious in the UK. I don't even think that is accurate. The last consensus in 2021 was the first time that less than 50% of the population described themselves as Christian. Once you add the other religions in it is still the majority that consider themselves religious.
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Sure, but even then his argument is stupid and makes no sense.
As you say, 2021 was the first time that Christians had dropped that low, so even if we accepted his position, it would still mean that being religious (and specifically Christian) was the status quo up until that point. Given that the majority of people in thos conversation are older than 3, it would mean Christianity was the status quo when we made the decision to not follow religion.
Do you remember the daily mail waaaanks took the British Christians percentage (under 50%) from the census and turned into the UK being overrun by Muslims? British Christians now the MINORITY in the UK.
Kid yourselves all you want but if you are not going to church weekly or at the absolute minimum monthly then you are not religious.
Zero doubt at all less than 10% of the British population go to church in the UK.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
Kid yourselves all you want but if you are not going to church weekly or at the absolute minimum monthly then you are not religious.
Zero doubt at all less than 10% of the British population go to church in the UK.
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How many fans do Man Utd have?
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I assume he means that there are less religious people than there are religious in the UK. I don't even think that is accurate. The last consensus in 2021 was the first time that less than 50% of the population described themselves as Christian. Once you add the other religions in it is still the majority that consider themselves religious.
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Sure, but even then his argument is stupid and makes no sense.
As you say, 2021 was the first time that Christians had dropped that low, so even if we accepted his position, it would still mean that being religious (and specifically Christian) was the status quo up until that point. Given that the majority of people in thos conversation are older than 3, it would mean Christianity was the status quo when we made the decision to not follow religion.
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100% correct.
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
Kid yourselves all you want but if you are not going to church weekly or at the absolute minimum monthly then you are not religious.
Zero doubt at all less than 10% of the British population go to church in the UK.
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How many fans do Man Utd have?
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Real ones or sad cants that have never been to Manchester?
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.
Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.
As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
God or no God.
Nobody knows, but all believe they do.
Generally the non believers are dismissive, sky fairies, etc as if it made their view better.
Believers want everyone else to follow the same path as them
Both would be better content to keep their views to themselves
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.
Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.
As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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It's a bit early to be on whatever it is you're on.
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.
Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.
As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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It's a bit early to be on whatever it is you're on.
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Ad hominem, very typical of people with no evidence for their belief system. How original.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 58 minutes ago
God or no God.
Nobody knows, but all believe they do.
Generally the non believers are dismissive, sky fairies, etc as if it made their view better.
Believers want everyone else to follow the same path as them
Both would be better content to keep their views to themselves
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I usually do keep it to myself unless provoked. Whether someone is or isn't religious doesn't bother me as long as they aren't ramming it down my throat. But when someone that is religious accuses me of being indoctrinated, then I am going to point out the flaws of their argument.
I didn't mean you Elvis, you are a reasonable poster imo.
Plus I haven't read a lot of the thread
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.
Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.
As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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In the western world i said. Religion is dying a death, if you can't even acknowledge that then what is the point.
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posted on 25/6/23
I'm sure everyone's learned so much in this thread about what's gone wrong in society for Tate to receive a platform and can reference this thread anytime they want to gain knowledge on what the root cause is.
Ja606 showing itself to be the pinnacle of mature debate once again.
posted on 25/6/23
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
posted on 25/6/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 hours, 2 minutes ago
I'm sure everyone's learned so much in this thread about what's gone wrong in society for Tate to receive a platform and can reference this thread anytime they want to gain knowledge on what the root cause is.
Ja606 showing itself to be the pinnacle of mature debate once again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nice one Jesus.
What's the best way to live life? Asking for ja606?
posted on 25/6/23
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I assume he means that there are less religious people than there are religious in the UK. I don't even think that is accurate. The last consensus in 2021 was the first time that less than 50% of the population described themselves as Christian. Once you add the other religions in it is still the majority that consider themselves religious.
posted on 25/6/23
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
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You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
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You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
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You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
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You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
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If you think the UK is religious you have lost your fackin mind.
posted on 25/6/23
Wasn’t about 35% non religious in the last census?
posted on 25/6/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 29 seconds ago
Wasn’t about 35% non religious in the last census?
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is it fack.
I would say that loads would get baptised but that doesn't equal being religious, more a hand me down from generations before and a done thing. The UK is one of the least religious countries on the planet when it comes to actually practicing religion though.
posted on 25/6/23
my mum would be a great example. She is 85 and would if asked say she is religious. She hasn't been to church for nigh on 50-60 years.
posted on 25/6/23
That’s what the results were. Practicing and identifying as religious are different things. The UK may be one of the least religious countries in the world, but that doesn’t mean it’s the majority. Which is why it’s still quite funny to suggest that being irreligious is conformist.
posted on 25/6/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 29 seconds ago
Wasn’t about 35% non religious in the last census?
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is it fack.
I would say that loads would get baptised but that doesn't equal being religious, more a hand me down from generations before and a done thing. The UK is one of the least religious countries on the planet when it comes to actually practicing religion though.
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I think it is in the top 5 for non-believers.
But almost half the population describe themselves as Christian.
Either way, the UK certainly isn't a society without religion.
posted on 25/6/23
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
posted on 25/6/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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This ^^^^
posted on 25/6/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
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You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
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Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
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You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
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You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
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You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
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You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
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I assume he means that there are less religious people than there are religious in the UK. I don't even think that is accurate. The last consensus in 2021 was the first time that less than 50% of the population described themselves as Christian. Once you add the other religions in it is still the majority that consider themselves religious.
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Sure, but even then his argument is stupid and makes no sense.
As you say, 2021 was the first time that Christians had dropped that low, so even if we accepted his position, it would still mean that being religious (and specifically Christian) was the status quo up until that point. Given that the majority of people in thos conversation are older than 3, it would mean Christianity was the status quo when we made the decision to not follow religion.
posted on 25/6/23
Do you remember the daily mail waaaanks took the British Christians percentage (under 50%) from the census and turned into the UK being overrun by Muslims? British Christians now the MINORITY in the UK.
posted on 25/6/23
Kid yourselves all you want but if you are not going to church weekly or at the absolute minimum monthly then you are not religious.
Zero doubt at all less than 10% of the British population go to church in the UK.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
Kid yourselves all you want but if you are not going to church weekly or at the absolute minimum monthly then you are not religious.
Zero doubt at all less than 10% of the British population go to church in the UK.
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How many fans do Man Utd have?
posted on 26/6/23
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 21 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
What I've learned about N2 from this is that:
He got told to believe that a virgin got pregnant and gave birth to a superhero and he believes it.
Got told to believe that that you must act in a very specific and prescribed manner to be considered masculine, and he believes it.
Got told that there was someone claiming to identify as a cay, and he believes it.
Thinks that it makes more sense to believe the earth is flat than that someone could identify as a cat (and avoided answering what shape he thinks the earth is).
It sounds very much like someone who really struggles with the world and will desperately believe anything that means he doesn't have to think.
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You're the one who descend on anyone who isn't a conformist.
You lot get so upset when people don't believe the nonsense you believe.
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Imagine being religious and trying to claim to he non-conformist. Being religious is literally the most conformist thing you can do in human history.
Only one person in this is upset by others having different beliefs and that's you. The rest of us are just laughing at you.
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You're the ones upset that people follow Tate, that's what this whole thread is.
I don't care what you believe, but now you have to gaslight to make it look the other way around.
Also, if you don't know the difference between conforming to some teachings and conforming to society and its whims, I can't help you.
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You literally confirmed time society and its whims by becoming religious. In fact, throughout history there have been many well documented instances of people taking up a religion because if they didn't they were murdered as heretics.
I cant imagine being such a sheep as to believe in a fairy without any evidence, purely because I was taught to ad a child. Not having the critical and analytical skills to assess that must lead to a very simple life.
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You understand that the UK is no longer a religious society, right?
In fact, your very stance on religion is the current status quo.
If you lived a 100 years ago, you'd have followed the trend of that time and been religious.
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You mean the UK that has the head of the church as the head of state? Or the UK that grants prominent clergy members automatic seats in the Parliament? That UK isn't religious?
How are you defining whether the country is religious?
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I assume he means that there are less religious people than there are religious in the UK. I don't even think that is accurate. The last consensus in 2021 was the first time that less than 50% of the population described themselves as Christian. Once you add the other religions in it is still the majority that consider themselves religious.
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Sure, but even then his argument is stupid and makes no sense.
As you say, 2021 was the first time that Christians had dropped that low, so even if we accepted his position, it would still mean that being religious (and specifically Christian) was the status quo up until that point. Given that the majority of people in thos conversation are older than 3, it would mean Christianity was the status quo when we made the decision to not follow religion.
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100% correct.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
Kid yourselves all you want but if you are not going to church weekly or at the absolute minimum monthly then you are not religious.
Zero doubt at all less than 10% of the British population go to church in the UK.
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How many fans do Man Utd have?
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Real ones or sad cants that have never been to Manchester?
posted on 26/6/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.
Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.
As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
posted on 26/6/23
God or no God.
Nobody knows, but all believe they do.
Generally the non believers are dismissive, sky fairies, etc as if it made their view better.
Believers want everyone else to follow the same path as them
Both would be better content to keep their views to themselves
posted on 26/6/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.
Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.
As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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It's a bit early to be on whatever it is you're on.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.
Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.
As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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It's a bit early to be on whatever it is you're on.
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Ad hominem, very typical of people with no evidence for their belief system. How original.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 58 minutes ago
God or no God.
Nobody knows, but all believe they do.
Generally the non believers are dismissive, sky fairies, etc as if it made their view better.
Believers want everyone else to follow the same path as them
Both would be better content to keep their views to themselves
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I usually do keep it to myself unless provoked. Whether someone is or isn't religious doesn't bother me as long as they aren't ramming it down my throat. But when someone that is religious accuses me of being indoctrinated, then I am going to point out the flaws of their argument.
posted on 26/6/23
I didn't mean you Elvis, you are a reasonable poster imo.
Plus I haven't read a lot of the thread
posted on 26/6/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.
Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.
As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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In the western world i said. Religion is dying a death, if you can't even acknowledge that then what is the point.
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