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posted on 26/6/23

It's already dead here, nobody actually believes it

posted on 26/6/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 7 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.

Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.

As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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It's a bit early to be on whatever it is you're on.
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Ad hominem, very typical of people with no evidence for their belief system. How original.

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No evidence of their belief system?

Non believers don't need any evidence for their 'belief system'. We aren't the ones that have based our lives around something that after thousands of years still has zero evidence of there being a god.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 7 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.

Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.

As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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It's a bit early to be on whatever it is you're on.
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Ad hominem, very typical of people with no evidence for their belief system. How original.

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And what would my belief system be then?
Let me know so I can provide you with evidence
You're still taking bollox no matter what I or anyone else believe in

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.

Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.

As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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In the western world i said. Religion is dying a death, if you can't even acknowledge that then what is the point.
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And most of the rest of the world will catch up eventually.

posted on 26/6/23

All I need is evidence that a secular society works better than a religious one over the long term

But it doesn't exist because there is thousands of years of human beings continuing to evolve in a religious organisational structure despite all the persecution and wars, and barely any within a secular one.

As someone who isn't religious, I disagree with the level of secular faith that's being pushed on anyone that is religious, because that's all it is, faith.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 1 minute ago

All I need is evidence that a secular society works better than a religious one over the long term
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You need to study history and then look around the world now.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 7 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
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Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.

Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.

As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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It's a bit early to be on whatever it is you're on.
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Ad hominem, very typical of people with no evidence for their belief system. How original.

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No evidence of their belief system?

Non believers don't need any evidence for their 'belief system'. We aren't the ones that have based our lives around something that after thousands of years still has zero evidence of there being a god.
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Well perhaps you should given that it's proven evolutionary strategy for human beings.

Understanding there is no proof for god is primary school level, you need to get out of shorts and question it from the angle of whether it's net positive or negative to the human species regardless of how ridiculous it is.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 1 minute ago

All I need is evidence that a secular society works better than a religious one over the long term
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You need to study history and then look around the world now.
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Similar answer to you need to read a bible. Look how indoctrinated you are.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 1 minute ago

All I need is evidence that a secular society works better than a religious one over the long term
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You need to study history and then look around the world now.
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Similar answer to you need to read a bible. Look how indoctrinated you are.
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What?

posted on 26/6/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 1 minute ago

All I need is evidence that a secular society works better than a religious one over the long term
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You need to study history and then look around the world now.
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Similar answer to you need to read a bible. Look how indoctrinated you are.
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What?

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Exactly. You're so clueless you don't understand what 'long term' means or that the recent shift away from religion isn't enough of a sample size to determine whether a secular one works.

You're not a critical thinker who questions their own thoughts, much like people who follow religion. You've never even looked at something like ddt and wondered whether your own brand of ideological nuthouse is going to inflict mass suffering

posted on 26/6/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 1 minute ago

All I need is evidence that a secular society works better than a religious one over the long term
=====
You need to study history and then look around the world now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Similar answer to you need to read a bible. Look how indoctrinated you are.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What?

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Exactly. You're so clueless you don't understand what 'long term' means or that the recent shift away from religion isn't enough of a sample size to determine whether a secular one works.

You're not a critical thinker who questions their own thoughts, much like people who follow religion. You've never even looked at something like ddt and wondered whether your own brand of ideological nuthouse is going to inflict mass suffering
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This guy.

posted on 26/6/23

DDT is a prime example of ideologists subverting science to cause the unnecessary deaths of millions of people in the name of their own beliefs.

I've no reason to believe the latest set of activists won't do the same thing because they 100% believe in their cause.

Religion in itself doesn't kill people, nutters do. They exist in droves in secular societies too.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 26/6/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
DDT is a prime example of ideologists subverting science to cause the unnecessary deaths of millions of people in the name of their own beliefs.


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DDT is a fine wrestling move, but I seriously doubt it has caused the death of millions.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
DDT is a prime example of ideologists subverting science to cause the unnecessary deaths of millions of people in the name of their own beliefs.


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DDT is a fine wrestling move, but I seriously doubt it has caused the death of millions.
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It really is a fine move.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 7 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
Thankfully religion is dying a death in a majority of the western world, even the US. Hopefully 100 years from now people are not so dumb and gullible and in need of nonsensical guidance like that.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Religion has been around 45-200 thousand years.

Do present the evidence that dumb, gullible and religion are not good evolutionary traits, and that the human species is going to survive the next 100 years given all the existential man made threats that have risen with an inverse relation to the decline of religion.

As a non-religious person I find your belief in non-religion religious in nature and not well founded.
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It's a bit early to be on whatever it is you're on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ad hominem, very typical of people with no evidence for their belief system. How original.

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No evidence of their belief system?

Non believers don't need any evidence for their 'belief system'. We aren't the ones that have based our lives around something that after thousands of years still has zero evidence of there being a god.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well perhaps you should given that it's proven evolutionary strategy for human beings.

Understanding there is no proof for god is primary school level, you need to get out of shorts and question it from the angle of whether it's net positive or negative to the human species regardless of how ridiculous it is.
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It is negative, absolutely zero doubt. Every single war is religion based.

I see it first hand with family as well, my wifes family are mental and believe in god, their children are suppressed and not allowed to think or learn freely, any mention of dinosaurs for example is removed from their education, anything that goes against religion is removed from their learning. They couldn't be bridesmaids at our wedding as i am a dirty heathen. What parts of that are healthy?

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
DDT is a prime example of ideologists subverting science to cause the unnecessary deaths of millions of people in the name of their own beliefs.


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DDT is a fine wrestling move, but I seriously doubt it has caused the death of millions.
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HAHAHAHAHHAHA

posted on 26/6/23

Some points:

1. I'm an atheist, personally.

2. I don't see a problem at all with whatever people want to believe in the private sphere.

3. Religion, whether in the smallest, remotest tribes, or in the largest most technologically advanced societies, has played a key role in politics ever since human communities realised that having a shared moral currency was conducive to conflict resolution.

4. That last point is rarely considered by atheists when we talk about the wars and issues religion causes. Religion has played an absolutely essential role in the establishment of legal codes everywhere around the world, and as such has helped bring just as much peace as it has conflict, if not more.

5. Notwithstanding the above, in such multicultural, multi-denominational societies and can be found in the world today, I do not think it's a good idea at all for the dominant religion in any of those societies to be trying to dictate and impose their the laws on everyone else.

posted on 26/6/23

Good post, ioag. I especially agree about point four. It’s not something many are willing to engage with.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 17 minutes ago
Some points:

1. I'm an atheist, personally.

2. I don't see a problem at all with whatever people want to believe in the private sphere.

3. Religion, whether in the smallest, remotest tribes, or in the largest most technologically advanced societies, has played a key role in politics ever since human communities realised that having a shared moral currency was conducive to conflict resolution.

4. That last point is rarely considered by atheists when we talk about the wars and issues religion causes. Religion has played an absolutely essential role in the establishment of legal codes everywhere around the world, and as such has helped bring just as much peace as it has conflict, if not more.

5. Notwithstanding the above, in such multicultural, multi-denominational societies and can be found in the world today, I do not think it's a good idea at all for the dominant religion in any of those societies to be trying to dictate and impose their the laws on everyone else.


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You could have quite simply said TopForm is a fuсking nutter and left it at that.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 17 minutes ago

You could have quite simply said TopForm is a fuсking nutter and left it at that.
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I hadn't actually posted on or read any of the thread, except that the last few comments were basically 'religion this, religion that'.

It was the topic of another thread that was going over the weekend too. A few fellow atheists there had been using the usual confrontational rhetoric we often use because we feel that all too often religion people try to ram religion down our throats, but I hadn't really gotten around to giving a proper opinion there. I just saw this and thought, "Why not?"

Come to think of it, I might as well copy and paste it on there.

posted on 4/7/23

Reading books is for middle-brain losers.
It’s brain m@sturbation bиllshit cowardice.
“I’m learning so much without risk!”
You’ve learned nothing.
Winners act.
Losers read.

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Guess what guy who says a lot of smart and valuable things just tweeted this?

posted on 4/7/23

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
Reading books is for middle-brain losers.
It’s brain m@sturbation bиllshit cowardice.
“I’m learning so much without risk!”
You’ve learned nothing.
Winners act.
Losers read.

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Guess what guy who says a lot of smart and valuable things just tweeted this?
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He's protecting a generation of young men from the evil of books

posted on 5/7/23

Isn't he supposed to read from the Quran, being a good muslim?

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