It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
Even if it does have the air of a morality tale (like the sinking of the Titanic itself) I find the politically motivated mockery while people are probably fighting for their lives, probably without hope, very distasteful.
But you're very right that our collective attention should be caught just as much by the thousands of refugees who drown around Europe's coasts every year: lives we could save if we empathised with them (as we rightly empathise with the reckless rich people in that DIY submarine).
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
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Poor taste using a fishing reference mate
Frankly you'd have to pay me the amount these people have paid to even entertain such a ridiculous day out
The dangers of such a thing are beyond ridiculous...as has been shown by the (now almost certain reality) that they won't be found or rescued in time.
Watch this industry get hauled over the coals very soon...and given the almost certain lack of plan B,C or D to get it to the surface, so it fackin should.
As an absolute minimum these things should be going down in pairs wouldn't you think...?
We are hard wired for novelty. Just another migrant boat disaster is not enough to capture the global narrative.
This sub story has all the ingredients for a global, ongoing news story... and we eat it up as fast as they can serve it.
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
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Absolutely! Although, let's face it, it's not that much of a mystery is it?
This was from sky news live coverage:
Wife of OceanGate CEO is descendant of Titanic passengers
Wendy Rush, the wife of OceanGate chief executive and founder Stockton Rush, is a descendant of two first-class Titanic passengers who died when the ocean liner sank in 1912, according to their wedding announcement in the New York Times.
Mr Rush is aboard the Titan submersible and was believed to be piloting the missing vessel.
His wife is a great-great-granddaughter of businessman Isidor Straus and his wife, Ida - who were reportedly two of the richest passengers aboard Titanic.
Mr Straus, born in 1845, was a co-owner of Macy's department store with his brother Nathan.
His body was reportedly found at sea around two weeks after Titanic sank. His wife's body has never been recovered.
ffs they must have spent hours going through family histories
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
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Poor taste using a fishing reference mate
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It was good bait.
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
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Poor taste using a fishing reference mate
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It was good bait.
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I can’t believe he sunk so low
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
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Absolutely! Although, let's face it, it's not that much of a mystery is it?
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To most of the right it probably is đ
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
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Poor taste using a fishing reference mate
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It was good bait.
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I can’t believe he sunk so low
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Definitely plumbing the depths
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
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How do you reach the keyboard from all the way up there on that horse?
The news stations will show what the news stations will show. They aren’t arbiters of what might constitute important news from political, social or human perspectives; they’re businesses, and their decisions about what to broadcast are uniquely commercial in nature.
But the authorities’ very different responses to being alerted to contact being lost with the sub and the Greek migrant boat being in distress are pretty instructive IMO.
Every one of the still uncounted hundreds of men, women and children on the boat lost off the Greek shore should have been saved. Instead, their boat was left, captain-less, to drift, with people dying on board, until it capsized a full 15 hours after the Greek authorities were first notified that it was in distress.
That’s the real human story: Why we’re watching passively whilst thousands of the world’s most desperate people die in European waters each year.
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
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How do you reach the keyboard from all the way up there on that horse?
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It’s a woke horse so comes with a keyboard on the back of his neck.
And the obsession over a few rich people in Schrödingers submarine is all consuming on every channel and newspaper yet dozens of migrants drown in the Med and it’s just another day?
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I don't really get why people keep making this comparison.
The story isn't front page news because they're billionaires, it's the fascination of not knowing what's happened and what the outcome will be.
It's no different to the Chilean miners or the Indonesian football team in the cave.
An awful way to go, I’m sure Netflix are creaming themselves over the story.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 5 minutes ago
And the obsession over a few rich people in Schrödingers submarine is all consuming on every channel and newspaper yet dozens of migrants drown in the Med and it’s just another day?
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I don't really get why people keep making this comparison.
The story isn't front page news because they're billionaires, it's the fascination of not knowing what's happened and what the outcome will be.
It's no different to the Chilean miners or the Indonesian football team in the cave.
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Agreed, the billionaire aspect was just another layer on what was already a global story
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
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How do you reach the keyboard from all the way up there on that horse?
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It’s a woke horse so comes with a keyboard on the back of his neck.
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fair
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
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How do you reach the keyboard from all the way up there on that horse?
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It’s a woke horse so comes with a keyboard on the back of his neck.
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comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 15 minutes ago
And the obsession over a few rich people in Schrödingers submarine is all consuming on every channel and newspaper yet dozens of migrants drown in the Med and it’s just another day?
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I don't really get why people keep making this comparison.
The story isn't front page news because they're billionaires, it's the fascination of not knowing what's happened and what the outcome will be.
It's no different to the Chilean miners or the Indonesian football team in the cave.
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Is anyone in any debate as to what the outcome will be?
A submersible full of dead people is the only outcome.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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It's the same with all news topics, some capture the publics attention like this one, others you never even hear of.
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 15 minutes ago
And the obsession over a few rich people in Schrödingers submarine is all consuming on every channel and newspaper yet dozens of migrants drown in the Med and it’s just another day?
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I don't really get why people keep making this comparison.
The story isn't front page news because they're billionaires, it's the fascination of not knowing what's happened and what the outcome will be.
It's no different to the Chilean miners or the Indonesian football team in the cave.
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Is anyone in any debate as to what the outcome will be?
A submersible full of dead people is the only outcome.
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yeah I watched something on it last night they are gone. Also broke down how the people on board were more than aware how dangerous this was and it was not a normal regulated sub, it is an experimental sub.
it was billed as being very very dangerous, they knew the risks.
most likely event they seemed to think is that is has imploded.
The Colombian kids survival after the plane crash should be the most fascinating story of the year, but it seems they have found it hard to get too much info on it.
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posted on 22/6/23
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
posted on 22/6/23
Even if it does have the air of a morality tale (like the sinking of the Titanic itself) I find the politically motivated mockery while people are probably fighting for their lives, probably without hope, very distasteful.
But you're very right that our collective attention should be caught just as much by the thousands of refugees who drown around Europe's coasts every year: lives we could save if we empathised with them (as we rightly empathise with the reckless rich people in that DIY submarine).
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
posted on 22/6/23
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
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Poor taste using a fishing reference mate
posted on 22/6/23
Frankly you'd have to pay me the amount these people have paid to even entertain such a ridiculous day out
The dangers of such a thing are beyond ridiculous...as has been shown by the (now almost certain reality) that they won't be found or rescued in time.
Watch this industry get hauled over the coals very soon...and given the almost certain lack of plan B,C or D to get it to the surface, so it fackin should.
As an absolute minimum these things should be going down in pairs wouldn't you think...?
posted on 22/6/23
We are hard wired for novelty. Just another migrant boat disaster is not enough to capture the global narrative.
This sub story has all the ingredients for a global, ongoing news story... and we eat it up as fast as they can serve it.
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Absolutely! Although, let's face it, it's not that much of a mystery is it?
posted on 22/6/23
This was from sky news live coverage:
Wife of OceanGate CEO is descendant of Titanic passengers
Wendy Rush, the wife of OceanGate chief executive and founder Stockton Rush, is a descendant of two first-class Titanic passengers who died when the ocean liner sank in 1912, according to their wedding announcement in the New York Times.
Mr Rush is aboard the Titan submersible and was believed to be piloting the missing vessel.
His wife is a great-great-granddaughter of businessman Isidor Straus and his wife, Ida - who were reportedly two of the richest passengers aboard Titanic.
Mr Straus, born in 1845, was a co-owner of Macy's department store with his brother Nathan.
His body was reportedly found at sea around two weeks after Titanic sank. His wife's body has never been recovered.
ffs they must have spent hours going through family histories
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
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Poor taste using a fishing reference mate
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It was good bait.
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
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Poor taste using a fishing reference mate
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It was good bait.
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I can’t believe he sunk so low
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
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Absolutely! Although, let's face it, it's not that much of a mystery is it?
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To most of the right it probably is đ
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think it's just the irony of the situation that's got people hooked.
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Poor taste using a fishing reference mate
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It was good bait.
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I can’t believe he sunk so low
—————
Definitely plumbing the depths
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
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How do you reach the keyboard from all the way up there on that horse?
posted on 22/6/23
The news stations will show what the news stations will show. They aren’t arbiters of what might constitute important news from political, social or human perspectives; they’re businesses, and their decisions about what to broadcast are uniquely commercial in nature.
But the authorities’ very different responses to being alerted to contact being lost with the sub and the Greek migrant boat being in distress are pretty instructive IMO.
Every one of the still uncounted hundreds of men, women and children on the boat lost off the Greek shore should have been saved. Instead, their boat was left, captain-less, to drift, with people dying on board, until it capsized a full 15 hours after the Greek authorities were first notified that it was in distress.
That’s the real human story: Why we’re watching passively whilst thousands of the world’s most desperate people die in European waters each year.
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How do you reach the keyboard from all the way up there on that horse?
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It’s a woke horse so comes with a keyboard on the back of his neck.
posted on 22/6/23
And the obsession over a few rich people in Schrödingers submarine is all consuming on every channel and newspaper yet dozens of migrants drown in the Med and it’s just another day?
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I don't really get why people keep making this comparison.
The story isn't front page news because they're billionaires, it's the fascination of not knowing what's happened and what the outcome will be.
It's no different to the Chilean miners or the Indonesian football team in the cave.
posted on 22/6/23
An awful way to go, I’m sure Netflix are creaming themselves over the story.
posted on 22/6/23
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 5 minutes ago
And the obsession over a few rich people in Schrödingers submarine is all consuming on every channel and newspaper yet dozens of migrants drown in the Med and it’s just another day?
-------------
I don't really get why people keep making this comparison.
The story isn't front page news because they're billionaires, it's the fascination of not knowing what's happened and what the outcome will be.
It's no different to the Chilean miners or the Indonesian football team in the cave.
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Agreed, the billionaire aspect was just another layer on what was already a global story
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How do you reach the keyboard from all the way up there on that horse?
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It’s a woke horse so comes with a keyboard on the back of his neck.
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fair
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hopefully one day people love the mystery of why so many migrants need to get to Europe and away from destitution. Then maybe more will help get them safer routes. đ€đ»
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How do you reach the keyboard from all the way up there on that horse?
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It’s a woke horse so comes with a keyboard on the back of his neck.
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posted on 22/6/23
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 15 minutes ago
And the obsession over a few rich people in Schrödingers submarine is all consuming on every channel and newspaper yet dozens of migrants drown in the Med and it’s just another day?
-------------
I don't really get why people keep making this comparison.
The story isn't front page news because they're billionaires, it's the fascination of not knowing what's happened and what the outcome will be.
It's no different to the Chilean miners or the Indonesian football team in the cave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is anyone in any debate as to what the outcome will be?
A submersible full of dead people is the only outcome.
posted on 22/6/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
It certainly does seem surreal.
I do get why the coverage is different to the migrants in the med though. People love a mystery. It captures the imagination. Much like the Nicola Bulley case when there was a bit of intrigue even though people go missing every day.
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It's the same with all news topics, some capture the publics attention like this one, others you never even hear of.
posted on 22/6/23
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 15 minutes ago
And the obsession over a few rich people in Schrödingers submarine is all consuming on every channel and newspaper yet dozens of migrants drown in the Med and it’s just another day?
-------------
I don't really get why people keep making this comparison.
The story isn't front page news because they're billionaires, it's the fascination of not knowing what's happened and what the outcome will be.
It's no different to the Chilean miners or the Indonesian football team in the cave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is anyone in any debate as to what the outcome will be?
A submersible full of dead people is the only outcome.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yeah I watched something on it last night they are gone. Also broke down how the people on board were more than aware how dangerous this was and it was not a normal regulated sub, it is an experimental sub.
it was billed as being very very dangerous, they knew the risks.
most likely event they seemed to think is that is has imploded.
posted on 22/6/23
The Colombian kids survival after the plane crash should be the most fascinating story of the year, but it seems they have found it hard to get too much info on it.
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