comment by Keanos Magic Hat (U10101)
posted 13 minutes ago
Hopefully they reject.
Arda Guler at €17.5m release clause is a similar level of player, higher potential, younger and would allow us to focus funds elsewhere.
Just wish United would be more savvy with transfers ffs.
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Anyone seen him play?
Mount is a Champions League and Premier league winner plus young and English.
The other guy is a supposed wonderkid from Turkey. He might very well be a top player in the future but he's a gamble in the way Mount is not.
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Keanos Magic Hat (U10101)
posted 13 minutes ago
Hopefully they reject.
Arda Guler at €17.5m release clause is a similar level of player, higher potential, younger and would allow us to focus funds elsewhere.
Just wish United would be more savvy with transfers ffs.
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Anyone seen him play?
Mount is a Champions League and Premier league winner plus young and English.
The other guy is a supposed wonderkid from Turkey. He might very well be a top player in the future but he's a gamble in the way Mount is not.
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A gamble that costs less than a third of what we will pay for Mount, many of whom do not I rate as a £55m + player.
I certainly don’t anyway.
If we're in the Turkish market I wouldn't mind taking a look at Chükon. Good on the ball and has a cheap release clause too.
55m for a Premier League winner, Champions League winner, England international midfielder doesn't seem too expensive to me.
He's being judged harshly off the back of a miserable season for his club imo. I think 55m is the sweet spot, not worth anymore to United. If they want more i'd lean towards moving on even if that means taking the gamble on someone that's unrealised potential at this stage.
Guler could turn out to be completely ill suited to the Premier League, may have just had a good season in a very mid league.
You may well be right on Guler but it appears to me Ten Hag would rather play it safe and get someone who will contribute rather than someone who may and you can't blame him.
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 3 minutes ago
If we're in the Turkish market I wouldn't mind taking a look at Chükon. Good on the ball and has a cheap release clause too.
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That would be a bazaar transfer
Scotland is rated as a better league than Turkey by UEFA fwiw.
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 28 minutes ago
If you look at this in pounds sterling, you could say £55m being way too much to pay for Mount. But if you quote the price in the currency of Kai Havertzes, then Mount costs less than one Havertz, and that doesn't sound as bad.
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You seem to have forgotten that it's because of united and Chelsea, transfer prices for average players have sky rocketed
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The sensitivity of some fans! This wasn't a dig at Arsenal.
But I'd take issue with the idea that certain clubs are individually morally responsible for inflation in transfer fees. Let's be clear: the single most important factors are the exponential growth in football revenue (so everyone has more money and expects more) and the emergence of clubs who can afford to invest way more than they make. But even with massive sums invested acting as symbolic benchmarks, these don't force anyone to spend more than they choose to on players. Arsenal presumably believe there's a rigorous business case for buying Havertz at £60m. If they don't think he's worth that money, that's on them. Manchester United and Chelsea didn't make them do it.
IMO we should take a look at that Dutch striker who was scoring a goal every other game in Turkey.
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 10 minutes ago
55m for a Premier League winner
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no idea why you keep saying this
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 3 minutes ago
If we're in the Turkish market I wouldn't mind taking a look at Chükon. Good on the ball and has a cheap release clause too.
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That would be a bazaar transfer
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yeah but you can Chükon deez nuts
Re MUDs Grenwood poll
Of 12 clear opinions given
5 are in camp 3 (Acknolwedge his remorse and let him come back)
4 are in camp 3 (Acknowledge his remorse but he has to go still)
3 are in camp 1 (he has to go, no matter what)
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
We’re the only club who are interested, we know Chelsea will sell for the right price and he wants to join. Let’s leave it for now and let Chelsea sweat and see what they’ll accept in a month or so. First team players aren’t coming back to pre season for a few weeks so there really isn’t a rush to get him right now.
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We'll know if Chelsea are really desperate to sell by 1 July.
If they keep raising the price it will be a steep climb on Mount in.
He has a year left?
Sod that we should've walked away at £40m.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
If you look at this in pounds sterling, you could say £55m being way too much to pay for Mount. But if you quote the price in the currency of Kai Havertzes, then Mount costs less than one Havertz, and that doesn't sound as bad.
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The idea of what Havertz is (if used in the right system) is bettér than that of Mount. Mount was always a golden boy in the right formation meanwhile the formation Havertz had at Chelsea always seemed odd.
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 10 minutes ago
55m for a Premier League winner
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no idea why you keep saying this
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Mason mount was the reason Chelsea won the PL in 2017, obviously.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
He has a year left?
Sod that we should've walked away at £40m.
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Yea. Pushed it till late. I have a suspicion we were always going to be the best player interested in him. This is a trend for is these days. Never 2 or 3 teams interested, only us always overpaying for the players. Sancho and Antony comes to mind.
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
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But once that uphill struggle has been overcome, we will surely mount a title challenge?
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
He has a year left?
Sod that we should've walked away at £40m.
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Yea. Pushed it till late. I have a suspicion we were always going to be the best player interested in him. This is a trend for is these days. Never 2 or 3 teams interested, only us always overpaying for the players. Sancho and Antony comes to mind.
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Best Team*
55 mill for mount is insanity.
And why are people giving cleverley a hard time?? Cleverley would walk into our current midfield, I'd be glad to have him over eriksen, Fred and Mct.
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please' of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
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But once that uphill struggle has been overcome, we will surely mount a title challenge?
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I dont think we should ever rest in trying to get to the top of this.
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
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But once that uphill struggle has been overcome, we will surely mount a title challenge?
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I dont think we should ever rest in trying to get to the top of this.
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He's not reached his peak yet.
These jokes are hill areas
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
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But once that uphill struggle has been overcome, we will surely mount a title challenge?
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I dont think we should ever rest in trying to get to the top of this.
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He's not reached his peak yet.
These jokes are hill areas
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After last season i hope he has the right altitude
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posted on 23/6/23
comment by Keanos Magic Hat (U10101)
posted 13 minutes ago
Hopefully they reject.
Arda Guler at €17.5m release clause is a similar level of player, higher potential, younger and would allow us to focus funds elsewhere.
Just wish United would be more savvy with transfers ffs.
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Anyone seen him play?
Mount is a Champions League and Premier league winner plus young and English.
The other guy is a supposed wonderkid from Turkey. He might very well be a top player in the future but he's a gamble in the way Mount is not.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Keanos Magic Hat (U10101)
posted 13 minutes ago
Hopefully they reject.
Arda Guler at €17.5m release clause is a similar level of player, higher potential, younger and would allow us to focus funds elsewhere.
Just wish United would be more savvy with transfers ffs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Anyone seen him play?
Mount is a Champions League and Premier league winner plus young and English.
The other guy is a supposed wonderkid from Turkey. He might very well be a top player in the future but he's a gamble in the way Mount is not.
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A gamble that costs less than a third of what we will pay for Mount, many of whom do not I rate as a £55m + player.
I certainly don’t anyway.
posted on 23/6/23
If we're in the Turkish market I wouldn't mind taking a look at Chükon. Good on the ball and has a cheap release clause too.
posted on 23/6/23
55m for a Premier League winner, Champions League winner, England international midfielder doesn't seem too expensive to me.
He's being judged harshly off the back of a miserable season for his club imo. I think 55m is the sweet spot, not worth anymore to United. If they want more i'd lean towards moving on even if that means taking the gamble on someone that's unrealised potential at this stage.
Guler could turn out to be completely ill suited to the Premier League, may have just had a good season in a very mid league.
You may well be right on Guler but it appears to me Ten Hag would rather play it safe and get someone who will contribute rather than someone who may and you can't blame him.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 3 minutes ago
If we're in the Turkish market I wouldn't mind taking a look at Chükon. Good on the ball and has a cheap release clause too.
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That would be a bazaar transfer
posted on 23/6/23
Scotland is rated as a better league than Turkey by UEFA fwiw.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 28 minutes ago
If you look at this in pounds sterling, you could say £55m being way too much to pay for Mount. But if you quote the price in the currency of Kai Havertzes, then Mount costs less than one Havertz, and that doesn't sound as bad.
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You seem to have forgotten that it's because of united and Chelsea, transfer prices for average players have sky rocketed
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The sensitivity of some fans! This wasn't a dig at Arsenal.
But I'd take issue with the idea that certain clubs are individually morally responsible for inflation in transfer fees. Let's be clear: the single most important factors are the exponential growth in football revenue (so everyone has more money and expects more) and the emergence of clubs who can afford to invest way more than they make. But even with massive sums invested acting as symbolic benchmarks, these don't force anyone to spend more than they choose to on players. Arsenal presumably believe there's a rigorous business case for buying Havertz at £60m. If they don't think he's worth that money, that's on them. Manchester United and Chelsea didn't make them do it.
posted on 23/6/23
IMO we should take a look at that Dutch striker who was scoring a goal every other game in Turkey.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 10 minutes ago
55m for a Premier League winner
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no idea why you keep saying this
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 3 minutes ago
If we're in the Turkish market I wouldn't mind taking a look at Chükon. Good on the ball and has a cheap release clause too.
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That would be a bazaar transfer
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yeah but you can Chükon deez nuts
posted on 23/6/23
Re MUDs Grenwood poll
Of 12 clear opinions given
5 are in camp 3 (Acknolwedge his remorse and let him come back)
4 are in camp 3 (Acknowledge his remorse but he has to go still)
3 are in camp 1 (he has to go, no matter what)
posted on 23/6/23
Who is mud and grenwood
posted on 23/6/23
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
We’re the only club who are interested, we know Chelsea will sell for the right price and he wants to join. Let’s leave it for now and let Chelsea sweat and see what they’ll accept in a month or so. First team players aren’t coming back to pre season for a few weeks so there really isn’t a rush to get him right now.
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We'll know if Chelsea are really desperate to sell by 1 July.
posted on 23/6/23
If they keep raising the price it will be a steep climb on Mount in.
posted on 23/6/23
He has a year left?
Sod that we should've walked away at £40m.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
If you look at this in pounds sterling, you could say £55m being way too much to pay for Mount. But if you quote the price in the currency of Kai Havertzes, then Mount costs less than one Havertz, and that doesn't sound as bad.
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The idea of what Havertz is (if used in the right system) is bettér than that of Mount. Mount was always a golden boy in the right formation meanwhile the formation Havertz had at Chelsea always seemed odd.
posted on 23/6/23
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 10 minutes ago
55m for a Premier League winner
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no idea why you keep saying this
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Mason mount was the reason Chelsea won the PL in 2017, obviously.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
He has a year left?
Sod that we should've walked away at £40m.
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Yea. Pushed it till late. I have a suspicion we were always going to be the best player interested in him. This is a trend for is these days. Never 2 or 3 teams interested, only us always overpaying for the players. Sancho and Antony comes to mind.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
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But once that uphill struggle has been overcome, we will surely mount a title challenge?
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
He has a year left?
Sod that we should've walked away at £40m.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yea. Pushed it till late. I have a suspicion we were always going to be the best player interested in him. This is a trend for is these days. Never 2 or 3 teams interested, only us always overpaying for the players. Sancho and Antony comes to mind.
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Best Team*
posted on 23/6/23
55 mill for mount is insanity.
And why are people giving cleverley a hard time?? Cleverley would walk into our current midfield, I'd be glad to have him over eriksen, Fred and Mct.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please' of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
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But once that uphill struggle has been overcome, we will surely mount a title challenge?
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I dont think we should ever rest in trying to get to the top of this.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
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But once that uphill struggle has been overcome, we will surely mount a title challenge?
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I dont think we should ever rest in trying to get to the top of this.
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He's not reached his peak yet.
These jokes are hill areas
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was always going to be an uphill struggle for Mount.
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But once that uphill struggle has been overcome, we will surely mount a title challenge?
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I dont think we should ever rest in trying to get to the top of this.
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He's not reached his peak yet.
These jokes are hill areas
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After last season i hope he has the right altitude
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