What Aus did yesterday was like not giving the ball back at a throwing and then scoring. Not cheating, not against the rules but 100% against the spirit of the game and if that's how you want to play then so be it but if it happens against your team then you will be incensed by a lack of sportsmanship.
In football you expect it. Gaining an advantage through the dark arts and just general low level cheating is common place. You do not expect it in cricket and that is what sets the game aside from many others where there is a sense of fair play and right and wrong which is rarely breached. To do so in the show piece of world test cricket is may be showing that cricket is moving away from these values .
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
It's not clever...it's cheating 👎
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
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Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
Didn't Bairstow do something similar a few days earlier?
It's lesson learned I'd say. Stay in your crease! It perhaps wasn't in perfect spirit of the game but this is Ashes cricket! It's played very tough!
Footballers 'cheat' all the time anyway claiming throw-ins, corners etc they know full well aren't theirs. For the record I think Australia would have won anyway.
https://twitter.com/samdjodan/status/1675575411344908288?t=uA06yof3LYL4ij_7YAMfVg&s=19
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 37 seconds ago
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
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Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
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This.
Really simply put, the keeper will have watched Jonny and noticed he'd been leaving his crease.
It's a fair and square stumping.
Those posh tory cants with their daft blazers need to remember the history of the sport. Especially when it comes to England!
Aussies are 2 up with 3 to play. There has been no cheating and I am not buying this spirit of game crap. That was very clever cricket from Carey. Only controversy was that Green was given the wicket.
https://twitter.com/izzywestbury/status/1675535846852665345?t=TABo-ebxR1OaAnMgI4KZUA&s=19
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
What Aus did yesterday was like not giving the ball back at a throwing and then scoring. Not cheating, not against the rules but 100% against the spirit of the game and if that's how you want to play then so be it but if it happens against your team then you will be incensed by a lack of sportsmanship.
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Were England's 51 consecutive overs of short bowling the day before within the spirit of the game?
Who set the tone?
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 9 minutes ago
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
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Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
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No he isnt. Not walking is common place in cricket. The majority of batsman don't walk and will wait to be given out.
Law 20.1.2 further elaborates: “The ball shall be considered dead when it is clear to the bowler's end umpire that the fielding side and both batters at the wicket have ceased to regard it as in play.”
Carey reacted pretty quickly - too quickly to 'assume' the ball was dead.
I don't think Australia did too much wrong in that regard, it was naive of Bairstow.
I have more issue with the amount of clearly grounded catches they've tried to claim and the amount of bouncers they're getting away with per over.
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas p... (U18599)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 37 seconds ago
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
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Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
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This.
Really simply put, the keeper will have watched Jonny and noticed he'd been leaving his crease.
It's a fair and square stumping.
Those posh tory cants with their daft blazers need to remember the history of the sport. Especially when it comes to England!
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What utter rubbish !
comment by The Revenant (U21957)
posted 13 minutes ago
It's not clever...it's cheating 👎
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never go full Revenant
https://twitter.com/DavidPenington2/status/1675670015192989697?t=agnquFqMG4Jxxa9vT9HK7g&s=19
Also, going back to the title of the article "Is there a right way to win?"
Short answer, no.
It's The Ashes ffs. By all means be sporting, but also be as ruthless as you can. The moment it stops meaning anything to either side is the moment to give it up.
I love how fired up England are as a result.
Rightly booed off Robb. I thought it was shabby behaviour tbh.
After the shameful sandpaper controversy which embarrassed Australian cricket on a global scale, you would think the Aussies would at least try to repair their battered image by playing with a high degree of sportsmanship.
Unfortunately not it seems. They will be remembered as a truly great team that would literally do anything to win.
That was a very reserved yet cutting comment from Broad which, I expect, will stay in Carey's mind for many a year. I am sure that during the next Test at Headingley, Bairstow's home ground, the patrons will be kind and forgiving.
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 2 minutes ago
That was a very reserved yet cutting comment from Broad which, I expect, will stay in Carey's mind for many a year. I am sure that during the next Test at Headingley, Bairstow's home ground, the patrons will be kind and forgiving.
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Broad is the ultimate hypocrite.
comment by Anfield RAP (U22951)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also, going back to the title of the article "Is there a right way to win?"
Short answer, no.
It's The Ashes ffs. By all means be sporting, but also be as ruthless as you can. The moment it stops meaning anything to either side is the moment to give it up.
I love how fired up England are as a result.
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I honestly don’t think Stokes would have done what he did without the stumping. Sometimes in sport it takes a flashpoint to create a special moment. As you say England are fired up now and Headingley should be huge.
https://twitter.com/BilaalMarikar/status/1675656575539884032?t=Q1YQ_OnxrWBPSMqbmHtaCA&s=19
It's common practice for goalkeepers to go into penalty shootouts with some tactical notes stuck on their water bottles.
Goalkeeper Andrew Redmayne is lauded as a national hero in Australia after picking up a water bottle belonging to Peru goalkeeper Pedro Gallese between penalty kicks, and chucking it into the stands, during the last round of World Cup playoffs. Australia went on to win the game.
Must be something in the water down there.
This was argued out on a thread yesterday and essentially there are two schools of thought; (1) Aussies played within the laws of the game - nothing to see here, and (2) Aussies played outside the spirit of the game - that's not cricket.
Depends whether you buy into the spirit of the game. Some do, some don't.
What I would say though Robb is that comparisons to football are really quite worthless. In football players and fans couldn't give a monkey's about whether some thing is right or wrong, as long as it goes for their team. We see countless examples every game from claiming throw-ins which obviously aren't theirs, to diving, play-acting, imaginary card waving and loads more. And if challenged on any of this, the usual line is that it's up to the referee to call the players on it. In cricket there has traditionally been more responsibility taken by players to play within not just the laws but the spirit of fierce but fair competition. Obviously there are high profile examples of where this hasn't happened, but generally speaking. Personally I think it would be a great shame if cricket became more like football in this regard.
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 31 minutes ago
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
———
Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
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Exactly. That's why it hurt Carey more than it would coming from someone else. You could see the hurt in his eyes and he didn't know what to say back.
Fact is, Broad was right too. Broad will be remember for more than his incident as he is already a legend. In ashes history he will be remembered for his 8 wickets in an innings, having Warner in his pocket etc. This is likely going to be Carey's only Ashes series in England. This is what he'll be remembered for.
This is likely going to be Carey's only Ashes series in England. This is what he'll be remembered for.
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I’m sure he’ll be fine. The players are considered heroes here and all the news here is about the MCC ghouls being investigated for breaking rules.
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posted on 3/7/23
What Aus did yesterday was like not giving the ball back at a throwing and then scoring. Not cheating, not against the rules but 100% against the spirit of the game and if that's how you want to play then so be it but if it happens against your team then you will be incensed by a lack of sportsmanship.
In football you expect it. Gaining an advantage through the dark arts and just general low level cheating is common place. You do not expect it in cricket and that is what sets the game aside from many others where there is a sense of fair play and right and wrong which is rarely breached. To do so in the show piece of world test cricket is may be showing that cricket is moving away from these values .
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
posted on 3/7/23
It's not clever...it's cheating 👎
posted on 3/7/23
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
———
Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
posted on 3/7/23
Didn't Bairstow do something similar a few days earlier?
It's lesson learned I'd say. Stay in your crease! It perhaps wasn't in perfect spirit of the game but this is Ashes cricket! It's played very tough!
Footballers 'cheat' all the time anyway claiming throw-ins, corners etc they know full well aren't theirs. For the record I think Australia would have won anyway.
posted on 3/7/23
https://twitter.com/samdjodan/status/1675575411344908288?t=uA06yof3LYL4ij_7YAMfVg&s=19
posted on 3/7/23
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 37 seconds ago
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
———
Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
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This.
Really simply put, the keeper will have watched Jonny and noticed he'd been leaving his crease.
It's a fair and square stumping.
Those posh tory cants with their daft blazers need to remember the history of the sport. Especially when it comes to England!
posted on 3/7/23
Aussies are 2 up with 3 to play. There has been no cheating and I am not buying this spirit of game crap. That was very clever cricket from Carey. Only controversy was that Green was given the wicket.
posted on 3/7/23
https://twitter.com/izzywestbury/status/1675535846852665345?t=TABo-ebxR1OaAnMgI4KZUA&s=19
posted on 3/7/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
What Aus did yesterday was like not giving the ball back at a throwing and then scoring. Not cheating, not against the rules but 100% against the spirit of the game and if that's how you want to play then so be it but if it happens against your team then you will be incensed by a lack of sportsmanship.
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Were England's 51 consecutive overs of short bowling the day before within the spirit of the game?
Who set the tone?
posted on 3/7/23
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 9 minutes ago
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
———
Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No he isnt. Not walking is common place in cricket. The majority of batsman don't walk and will wait to be given out.
posted on 3/7/23
Law 20.1.2 further elaborates: “The ball shall be considered dead when it is clear to the bowler's end umpire that the fielding side and both batters at the wicket have ceased to regard it as in play.”
Carey reacted pretty quickly - too quickly to 'assume' the ball was dead.
I don't think Australia did too much wrong in that regard, it was naive of Bairstow.
I have more issue with the amount of clearly grounded catches they've tried to claim and the amount of bouncers they're getting away with per over.
posted on 3/7/23
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas p... (U18599)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 37 seconds ago
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
———
Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This.
Really simply put, the keeper will have watched Jonny and noticed he'd been leaving his crease.
It's a fair and square stumping.
Those posh tory cants with their daft blazers need to remember the history of the sport. Especially when it comes to England!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What utter rubbish !
posted on 3/7/23
comment by The Revenant (U21957)
posted 13 minutes ago
It's not clever...it's cheating 👎
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never go full Revenant
posted on 3/7/23
https://twitter.com/DavidPenington2/status/1675670015192989697?t=agnquFqMG4Jxxa9vT9HK7g&s=19
posted on 3/7/23
Also, going back to the title of the article "Is there a right way to win?"
Short answer, no.
It's The Ashes ffs. By all means be sporting, but also be as ruthless as you can. The moment it stops meaning anything to either side is the moment to give it up.
I love how fired up England are as a result.
posted on 3/7/23
Rightly booed off Robb. I thought it was shabby behaviour tbh.
posted on 3/7/23
After the shameful sandpaper controversy which embarrassed Australian cricket on a global scale, you would think the Aussies would at least try to repair their battered image by playing with a high degree of sportsmanship.
Unfortunately not it seems. They will be remembered as a truly great team that would literally do anything to win.
posted on 3/7/23
That was a very reserved yet cutting comment from Broad which, I expect, will stay in Carey's mind for many a year. I am sure that during the next Test at Headingley, Bairstow's home ground, the patrons will be kind and forgiving.
posted on 3/7/23
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 2 minutes ago
That was a very reserved yet cutting comment from Broad which, I expect, will stay in Carey's mind for many a year. I am sure that during the next Test at Headingley, Bairstow's home ground, the patrons will be kind and forgiving.
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Broad is the ultimate hypocrite.
posted on 3/7/23
comment by Anfield RAP (U22951)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also, going back to the title of the article "Is there a right way to win?"
Short answer, no.
It's The Ashes ffs. By all means be sporting, but also be as ruthless as you can. The moment it stops meaning anything to either side is the moment to give it up.
I love how fired up England are as a result.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I honestly don’t think Stokes would have done what he did without the stumping. Sometimes in sport it takes a flashpoint to create a special moment. As you say England are fired up now and Headingley should be huge.
posted on 3/7/23
https://twitter.com/BilaalMarikar/status/1675656575539884032?t=Q1YQ_OnxrWBPSMqbmHtaCA&s=19
posted on 3/7/23
It's common practice for goalkeepers to go into penalty shootouts with some tactical notes stuck on their water bottles.
Goalkeeper Andrew Redmayne is lauded as a national hero in Australia after picking up a water bottle belonging to Peru goalkeeper Pedro Gallese between penalty kicks, and chucking it into the stands, during the last round of World Cup playoffs. Australia went on to win the game.
Must be something in the water down there.
posted on 3/7/23
This was argued out on a thread yesterday and essentially there are two schools of thought; (1) Aussies played within the laws of the game - nothing to see here, and (2) Aussies played outside the spirit of the game - that's not cricket.
Depends whether you buy into the spirit of the game. Some do, some don't.
What I would say though Robb is that comparisons to football are really quite worthless. In football players and fans couldn't give a monkey's about whether some thing is right or wrong, as long as it goes for their team. We see countless examples every game from claiming throw-ins which obviously aren't theirs, to diving, play-acting, imaginary card waving and loads more. And if challenged on any of this, the usual line is that it's up to the referee to call the players on it. In cricket there has traditionally been more responsibility taken by players to play within not just the laws but the spirit of fierce but fair competition. Obviously there are high profile examples of where this hasn't happened, but generally speaking. Personally I think it would be a great shame if cricket became more like football in this regard.
posted on 3/7/23
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 31 minutes ago
I like what Broad was caught saying to the wicket keeper on the stump mic. "That's all you're ever going to be remembered for" and he is right because these things are rare in cricket so stand out. I hope we select Wood in the next test and rough him up!
———
Broad should know as he’s guilty of breaking the spirit of the game himself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. That's why it hurt Carey more than it would coming from someone else. You could see the hurt in his eyes and he didn't know what to say back.
Fact is, Broad was right too. Broad will be remember for more than his incident as he is already a legend. In ashes history he will be remembered for his 8 wickets in an innings, having Warner in his pocket etc. This is likely going to be Carey's only Ashes series in England. This is what he'll be remembered for.
posted on 3/7/23
This is likely going to be Carey's only Ashes series in England. This is what he'll be remembered for.
——-
I’m sure he’ll be fine. The players are considered heroes here and all the news here is about the MCC ghouls being investigated for breaking rules.
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