The figures I’ve used come from what I’ve read before and can be tied to that Uefa link you’ve used with some simple maths.

We got 17.5m from CL last year. We were bottom or second bottom of coefficient Celtic were 7 or so places above us so got extra 8m. Extra 1.1m per place. You can look up rankings yourself if you don’t follow. Fee 14m. Market place is small only a couple mil.

Not difficult. You’ve been miles off. Cutting my sentences is the only way you’ll be able to correct me

But anyway, Genk won’t be easy. And next tie will be even harder if we get there.

Teams we can beat, why Thursday nights are more appealing than losing f every game

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 35 minutes ago
But anyway, Genk won’t be easy. And next tie will be even harder if we get there.

Teams we can beat, why Thursday nights are more appealing than losing f every game


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Genk will beat you over two legs. You’re nowhere near ready.

Anyone want to summarise the debate about income that’s been going on-and does anyone know who’s actually correct, which is the important bit…

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone want to summarise the debate about income that’s been going on-and does anyone know who’s actually correct, which is the important bit…
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You earn far more by being in the CL than at any equal stage in the Europa. By some considerable distance.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone want to summarise the debate about income that’s been going on-and does anyone know who’s actually correct, which is the important bit…
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You earn far more by being in the CL than at any equal stage in the Europa. By some considerable distance.
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Celtic would. But not us, if we lost every CL game but won the Europa group difference would be 4/5m or so. Still a lot to us.

Its now massively structured in favour of clubs that have a history of being in Europe.

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 17 minutes ago
Anyone want to summarise the debate about income that’s been going on-and does anyone know who’s actually correct, which is the important bit…
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Basically what Renegade is saying is he'll disagree with anyone that supports Celtic and if a Celtic fan said the sun is very warm he'd find a way to disagree

Crazy
I've just came from a site where there's was a couple of big wallopers going at it all day .

comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 18 minutes ago
Crazy
I've just came from a site where there's was a couple of big wallopers going at it all day .


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Prawnhub?!

XXLHamster?

Feyenoord have apparently accepted a €7 million bid for striker Danilo.

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 10 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone want to summarise the debate about income that’s been going on-and does anyone know who’s actually correct, which is the important bit…
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You earn far more by being in the CL than at any equal stage in the Europa. By some considerable distance.
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Celtic would. But not us, if we lost every CL game but won the Europa group difference would be 4/5m or so. Still a lot to us.

Its now massively structured in favour of clubs that have a history of being in Europe.
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The prize money is the same for every team in the competition.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 10 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone want to summarise the debate about income that’s been going on-and does anyone know who’s actually correct, which is the important bit…
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You earn far more by being in the CL than at any equal stage in the Europa. By some considerable distance.
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Celtic would. But not us, if we lost every CL game but won the Europa group difference would be 4/5m or so. Still a lot to us.

Its now massively structured in favour of clubs that have a history of being in Europe.
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The prize money is the same for every team in the competition.
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All teams receive different amounts from Uefa. The rules changed in 2021 or so.

Money received is set out in below Uefa link whodunnit shared after he bothered to google it. Coefficient is a massive differentiator now. We don’t do as well as Celtic here as we don’t have a good 10 year coefficient for obv reasons, so you got an extra 8m or so last year. Market share split also massively benefits big leagues over us.

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0277-158b0bea495a-ba6c18158cd3-1000/20220704_circular_2022_47_en.pdf

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 10 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone want to summarise the debate about income that’s been going on-and does anyone know who’s actually correct, which is the important bit…
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You earn far more by being in the CL than at any equal stage in the Europa. By some considerable distance.
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Celtic would. But not us, if we lost every CL game but won the Europa group difference would be 4/5m or so. Still a lot to us.

Its now massively structured in favour of clubs that have a history of being in Europe.
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The prize money is the same for every team in the competition.
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All teams receive different amounts from Uefa. The rules changed in 2021 or so.

Money received is set out in below Uefa link whodunnit shared after he bothered to google it. Coefficient is a massive differentiator now. We don’t do as well as Celtic here as we don’t have a good 10 year coefficient for obv reasons, so you got an extra 8m or so last year. Market share split also massively benefits big leagues over us.

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0277-158b0bea495a-ba6c18158cd3-1000/20220704_circular_2022_47_en.pdf
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As I recall, the question wasn’t around whether Celtic or Rangers earned more from either competition, but one of which competition rewarded the most.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 10 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone want to summarise the debate about income that’s been going on-and does anyone know who’s actually correct, which is the important bit…
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You earn far more by being in the CL than at any equal stage in the Europa. By some considerable distance.
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Celtic would. But not us, if we lost every CL game but won the Europa group difference would be 4/5m or so. Still a lot to us.

Its now massively structured in favour of clubs that have a history of being in Europe.
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The prize money is the same for every team in the competition.
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All teams receive different amounts from Uefa. The rules changed in 2021 or so.

Money received is set out in below Uefa link whodunnit shared after he bothered to google it. Coefficient is a massive differentiator now. We don’t do as well as Celtic here as we don’t have a good 10 year coefficient for obv reasons, so you got an extra 8m or so last year. Market share split also massively benefits big leagues over us.

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0277-158b0bea495a-ba6c18158cd3-1000/20220704_circular_2022_47_en.pdf
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As I recall, the question wasn’t around whether Celtic or Rangers earned more from either competition, but one of which competition rewarded the most.
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I don’t think either of us need to be concerned by the Champions league total reward I don’t think POV would need to ask that…

In any case two teams can finish with the same number of points in the Group, or two different teams could win the CL and they would receive different earnings. So prize money is not the same for all.

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comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 15 hours, 1 minute ago
The figures I’ve used come from what I’ve read before and can be tied to that Uefa link you’ve used with some simple maths.

We got 17.5m from CL last year. We were bottom or second bottom of coefficient Celtic were 7 or so places above us so got extra 8m. Extra 1.1m per place. You can look up rankings yourself if you don’t follow. Fee 14m. Market place is small only a couple mil.

Not difficult. You’ve been miles off. Cutting my sentences is the only way you’ll be able to correct me
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so your saying we got £23.5m without kicking a ball esentially from CL.

I mean who knew it was more profitable to be in the europa ..... all these chairmen have it wrong.

You think Beale will sabotage our league campaign to ensure we finish 2nd and earn the real riches? ....interesting .... ppffffttt

24m without kicking a ball in CL. purely being there with zero bonuses.

11.5m for getting to europa AND winning every game in the groups (6 victories) not even half or the base amount for winning champ league. Be interesting to see you fill in the gaps for the europa to get to the CL figures.

so filling the gaps for us and show us how the europa league is more rewarding financially than the CL....


tell us how the europa league brings us in more money than the base amount from the CL?

I’ve no idea what you’re on about. Or where 23.5m has came from. Quite clearly more money in CL, and have never said otherwise. Your just being a dafty now, have clearly set out what we got last year in CL vs what we could get in EL.

Have simply said the CL isn’t as profitable for us as others, including Celtic. So the difference for us between CL and EL isn’t vast, as it is for others. And that’s based on assumption we’ll struggle to get any points.

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 seconds ago
I’ve no idea what you’re on about. Or where 23.5m has came from. Quite clearly more money in CL, and have never said otherwise. Your just being a dafty now, have clearly set out what we got last year in CL vs what we could get in EL.

Have simply said the CL isn’t as profitable for us as others, including Celtic. So the difference for us between CL and EL isn’t vast, as it is for others. And that’s based on assumption we’ll struggle to get any points.
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from your post above...

ok then tell us then how much did we earn from champ league last year.

and tell us how being in the europa yeilds more money..

cos no one else on here can see it.

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’ve no idea what you’re on about. Or where 23.5m has came from. Quite clearly more money in CL, and have never said otherwise. Your just being a dafty now, have clearly set out what we got last year in CL vs what we could get in EL.

Have simply said the CL isn’t as profitable for us as others, including Celtic. So the difference for us between CL and EL isn’t vast, as it is for others. And that’s based on assumption we’ll struggle to get any points.
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"Financially there wouldn’t have been much difference between what we got last years ha what we would have got if we’d got through EL groups."

this statement is nonsense .

it good that has now become "Quite clearly more money in CL, and have never said otherwise."

almost double for CL.

I’ve never said the EL yields more money

Also that statement isn’t nonsense. We got 17.5m before tickets from CL, we’d have got 13/14m if we won the EL group. Ticket wise we’d have not had such high prices but would have had an extra game at least if not more.

This tweet from yesterday sets it out nicer than my words which you seem incapable of understanding, and pretty much lines up with what I’ve been saying and what was actually reported to be our earnings (17.5m)

https://twitter.com/Jas72Boyd/status/1683434347817304066

"Financially there wouldn’t have been much difference between what we got last years ha what we would have got if we’d got through EL groups."

this statement is nonsense .

it good that has now become "Quite clearly more money in CL, and have never said otherwise."

pick one statement and stick with it.


so if we get into the europa AND win

so europa
5m qual, 3m for being in groups
100% wins (6) = 3.6m
topping the group = 1m
so 12.6m thats from winning every single game we play.

thats still less than the 15m we get from champ league just from being there with zero other bonus'.....

before you kick a ball in the CL groups your still a good bit up on the absolute max amount you can get from europa groups. no comparison.

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 9 minutes ago
I’ve never said the EL yields more money

Also that statement isn’t nonsense. We got 17.5m before tickets from CL, we’d have got 13/14m if we won the EL group. Ticket wise we’d have not had such high prices but would have had an extra game at least if not more.
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well one of the statement is nonesense.

which is it ....

"Financially there wouldn’t have been much difference between what we got last years ha what we would have got if we’d got through EL groups."

"Quite clearly more money in CL, and have never said otherwise."