comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Lexballielegend (U22945)
posted 1 minute ago
I am living through it 11 out of the last 12 titles , 4 trebles, countless drubbings am I wrong
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We won 1x SC during old Rangers 9iar period. You lived through that.
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Aye, but it didn't lead to our death
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comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 13 seconds ago
Facts are facts CT.

The allocation change affected every club and was not really any different to what other clubs had been doing to the OF already. Only one set of supporters with a tendency for paranoia immediately made it all about them.
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Celtic...just like every other club but bizarrely you still cling to the OF brand.

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 11 minutes ago
You're getting a bit excited. The club might have their own view on it and I haven't said anything about the importance of sponsors other than its not my concern.

My concern is heading to Ibrox to watch a football game and hopefully enjoying it. My personal experience hasn't been diminished by the change in allocation, in fact it has been enhanced.

Whilst sponsorship might take a hit (although have they? I haven't become aware of any deals changing on the OF allocation basis) the club have benefitted commercially in other ways, which was the point of the change in the first place. Celtic fans still peddle this myth it was about taking the huff because they were winning games when it was a purely commercial decision.
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Drivel

Lots of rewriting of history here. The Lying King made it happen

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 11 minutes ago
You're getting a bit excited. The club might have their own view on it and I haven't said anything about the importance of sponsors other than its not my concern.

My concern is heading to Ibrox to watch a football game and hopefully enjoying it. My personal experience hasn't been diminished by the change in allocation, in fact it has been enhanced.

Whilst sponsorship might take a hit (although have they? I haven't become aware of any deals changing on the OF allocation basis) the club have benefitted commercially in other ways, which was the point of the change in the first place. Celtic fans still peddle this myth it was about taking the huff because they were winning games when it was a purely commercial decision.
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Drivel
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What part? Genuinely curious to know what sponsorship deals were affected and if they were offset by the £3m plus in additional ST money generated by the change. That's before factoring in the CCC scheme for cup and friendlies as well as any Euro packages. Seems a fair trade off?

comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 1 minute ago
Lots of rewriting of history here. The Lying King made it happen
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Thanks for that contribution

hopefully see Yang and Kwon tomorrow at the Wolves game so i can make up my mind instantly if they are good or complete shiete !!

Celtic fans still peddle this myth it was about taking the huff because they were winning games when it was a purely commercial decision.
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behave.

comment by Magnum (2 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 13 seconds ago
Facts are facts CT.

The allocation change affected every club and was not really any different to what other clubs had been doing to the OF already. Only one set of supporters with a tendency for paranoia immediately made it all about them.
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Celtic...just like every other club but bizarrely you still cling to the OF brand.
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See, this I find really interesting.

The "OF" is the "brand" the fixture is known as globally. Its how sponsors and TV firms position the derby.

So we have a situation where Celtic and their supporters are concerned about the allocation change because of the spectacle and poor sponsors but refuse to refer to the fixture in its branded term.

Seems a bit like the concerns aren't really for the fixture or sponsors, no?

comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 2 minutes ago
hopefully see Yang and Kwon tomorrow at the Wolves game so i can make up my mind instantly if they are good or complete shiete !!
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Go for one of each. If it works out the other way around just say you got them mixed up.

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 2 minutes ago
hopefully see Yang and Kwon tomorrow at the Wolves game so i can make up my mind instantly if they are good or complete shiete !!
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Go for one of each. If it works out the other way around just say you got them mixed up.
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good idea

I actually think Yang will be a great wee player but will need a long time to settle

we still havent got out Jota replacement imo

whats the script with Tllio ?? is he injured ?

comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 2 minutes ago
hopefully see Yang and Kwon tomorrow at the Wolves game so i can make up my mind instantly if they are good or complete shiete !!
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Go for one of each. If it works out the other way around just say you got them mixed up.
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good idea

I actually think Yang will be a great wee player but will need a long time to settle

we still havent got out Jota replacement imo

whats the script with Tllio ?? is he injured ?
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He's only just found Ange has gone

the fixture had more of a big match feel with more away fans imo.

i'd got to enjoy games where rangers fans had to watch us drub you, and i've had to endure games where we were pumped at home.

it was pointless and petty, nothing more.

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 11 minutes ago
You're getting a bit excited. The club might have their own view on it and I haven't said anything about the importance of sponsors other than its not my concern.

My concern is heading to Ibrox to watch a football game and hopefully enjoying it. My personal experience hasn't been diminished by the change in allocation, in fact it has been enhanced.

Whilst sponsorship might take a hit (although have they? I haven't become aware of any deals changing on the OF allocation basis) the club have benefitted commercially in other ways, which was the point of the change in the first place. Celtic fans still peddle this myth it was about taking the huff because they were winning games when it was a purely commercial decision.
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Drivel
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What part? Genuinely curious to know what sponsorship deals were affected and if they were offset by the £3m plus in additional ST money generated by the change. That's before factoring in the CCC scheme for cup and friendlies as well as any Euro packages. Seems a fair trade off?
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Tv also airship has significantly dropped off. We take what we are given

And that’s before we even get to what some Rangers fans call a myth. 😂

Once Celtic issue a grovelling apology, we can all move on

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago

Id be quite for happy for that allocation to be euro allocations if its the same for all clubs , yeah , why not.

I hate the 4 games a season effort. Id rather expand the league but wouldnt make that choice for personal reasons only if it could enhance our game.

Id love it for Sky to pull out the deal so we can go about getting a better one. the deal with Sky is a fecking disgrace. a 6 year deal that is already poor on the day you sign it never mind what we will be comparing in 6 year time to our peers.
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You didn't answer for your fundamentalist section but I think I know the answer.

I'd be happy with Euro too. It is at least a reference point that holds some notional justification. However, Doncaster has been weakened and other clubs have jumped on the maximising revenue bandwagon so not sure it would get through. Rangers would have to vote against, right?

Enlarging the league is a non-starter unless you want it even more marginalised. I can see the point of you lot wanting less games against us right enough.

So, no Sky. TNT, early days but it remains to be seen where Warner takes them? Given BT had a share of Scottish football and let it lapse that is their mindset? Probably gearing up to show Saudi league?

Viaplay -

Amazon - god no, it is appalling.

Going it alone - well we tried before and Sky throttled it and have the power to do so again...?

With more and more footy on the box it is getting harder to push yourself to the front. Yeah yeah Austria, Norway, whatever
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I agree expanding the league prob isnt great short term in terms of marketing and helping the other teams attendances, its a preference cos I think its better for our overall game long term but can equally see either way.

as things stand as I read it we get 2.5m per year in tv rights ... 30m for the league?.... thats disgraceful.

and even if we were to go it alone its worth the risk ! granted thats prob not the case for some of the smaller clubs and could be small minded as Im not totally aware how that would impact the other teams.

But to be getting £2.5m per year if thats what the case is as reported. Terrible promotion of a league that contains two massive teams, massive rivalry, recent european attention. Terrible negotiations of said product with Sky and or whoever.

the value is whank just now in comparison, let alone what it will look like in 5/6 years time. such a handicap going forward.

comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
Once Celtic issue a grovelling apology, we can all move on
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We can hire Brian Blessed - not much more gravelly than that.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago

Id be quite for happy for that allocation to be euro allocations if its the same for all clubs , yeah , why not.

I hate the 4 games a season effort. Id rather expand the league but wouldnt make that choice for personal reasons only if it could enhance our game.

Id love it for Sky to pull out the deal so we can go about getting a better one. the deal with Sky is a fecking disgrace. a 6 year deal that is already poor on the day you sign it never mind what we will be comparing in 6 year time to our peers.
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You didn't answer for your fundamentalist section but I think I know the answer.

I'd be happy with Euro too. It is at least a reference point that holds some notional justification. However, Doncaster has been weakened and other clubs have jumped on the maximising revenue bandwagon so not sure it would get through. Rangers would have to vote against, right?

Enlarging the league is a non-starter unless you want it even more marginalised. I can see the point of you lot wanting less games against us right enough.

So, no Sky. TNT, early days but it remains to be seen where Warner takes them? Given BT had a share of Scottish football and let it lapse that is their mindset? Probably gearing up to show Saudi league?

Viaplay -

Amazon - god no, it is appalling.

Going it alone - well we tried before and Sky throttled it and have the power to do so again...?

With more and more footy on the box it is getting harder to push yourself to the front. Yeah yeah Austria, Norway, whatever
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I agree expanding the league prob isnt great short term in terms of marketing and helping the other teams attendances, its a preference cos I think its better for our overall game long term but can equally see either way.

as things stand as I read it we get 2.5m per year in tv rights ... 30m for the league?.... thats disgraceful.

and even if we were to go it alone its worth the risk ! granted thats prob not the case for some of the smaller clubs and could be small minded as Im not totally aware how that would impact the other teams.

But to be getting £2.5m per year if thats what the case is as reported. Terrible promotion of a league that contains two massive teams, massive rivalry, recent european attention. Terrible negotiations of said product with Sky and or whoever.

the value is whank just now in comparison, let alone what it will look like in 5/6 years time. such a handicap going forward.
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And that’s my point. Whilst Rangers and Celtic could survive quite easily without the £2.5m, I’d be stunned if the other clubs could without there being material change in how they operate, which in turn would make our league even less “watchable”.

And despite these paltry figures, not one single broadcaster has shown any interest in bettering it to my knowledge.

Making the game less of a spectacle just devalues the league further. People at the game or the keyboard warriors who “don’t give a fwck” are not the countless others paying towards the broadcasting channels because they want to watch these big games with all the noise and bedlam that goes with it.

And with no away fans, that part has gone. It has already been devalued.

In a similar vein, getting 25% more aint gonna change anything either.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
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And that’s my point. Whilst Rangers and Celtic could survive quite easily without the £2.5m, I’d be stunned if the other clubs could without there being material change in how they operate, which in turn would make our league even less “watchable”.

And despite these paltry figures, not one single broadcaster has shown any interest in bettering it to my knowledge.

Making the game less of a spectacle just devalues the league further. People at the game or the keyboard warriors who “don’t give a fwck” are not the countless others paying towards the broadcasting channels because they want to watch these big games with all the noise and bedlam that goes with it.

And with no away fans, that part has gone. It has already been devalued.
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c'mon man there is always interest. Any league that has the OF as a selling point will always have interest. Especially with notable names like Rodgers, Gio, Gerrard and Ange (whilst not known at first, he left with a huge reputation for the job he did). a recent euro final.

And if we cannot at least get close to equalling the deals of our peers of similar or less reputation and viewing figures that are close to expiring now (and always increase) then we are screwed until the next decade comes in.

I think its far more likely that certain people are making deals with people that they may or may not be pretty pally with and dont give a fook about the progression of our game, and these rat ba$tards are still in charge for the next 3 years regardless.

killing the league a damn site more than either of us letting each others fans in.

just wait and see how far down the pecking order we will fall in terms of our tv deal over the next 2/3 years or so.

Problem is our teams see more interested in having this stupid spat, and too many fans jump on the bandwagon instead ditching the ego and actually working together to sort the mess that runs our league out. We have the power to do so and are wasting it.

RANGERS Football Club are today delighted to confirm the signing of Danilo Pereira Da Silva on a five-year deal from Feyenoord, subject to international clearance.

Shirt number 99 Think we need to be shifting a few out

https://www.rangers.co.uk/article/rangers-announce-signing-of-danilo-pereira-da-silva/4TlUasZ5GSsL5rdyhMEtUi

comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 20 seconds ago
Shirt number 99Think we need to be shifting a few out

https://www.rangers.co.uk/article/rangers-announce-signing-of-danilo-pereira-da-silva/4TlUasZ5GSsL5rdyhMEtUi
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That's cos he's a flake

Ice cream vans heading to Ibrox on match day