comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 41 seconds ago
We don’t know she has withdrawn her statement (unless that is the same as withdrawing as a witness)
A conviction would depend on the facts. If he did assault her as alleged, and the evidence supported this, then a conviction wouldn’t be hindered by their current relationship status.
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Them getting back together wouldn't effect the chances of a prosecution??? I really have heard it all lol.
I won't keep this thread going, that one statement answers everything for me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s true
Going out, engaged, married, their relationship status doesn’t matter. They are looking at what he did or didn’t do. Not where they are now.
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You think them getting back together and having a baby won't have any bearing on the court case?
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 41 seconds ago
We don’t know she has withdrawn her statement (unless that is the same as withdrawing as a witness)
A conviction would depend on the facts. If he did assault her as alleged, and the evidence supported this, then a conviction wouldn’t be hindered by their current relationship status.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Them getting back together wouldn't effect the chances of a prosecution??? I really have heard it all lol.
I won't keep this thread going, that one statement answers everything for me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s true
Going out, engaged, married, their relationship status doesn’t matter. They are looking at what he did or didn’t do. Not where they are now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think them getting back together and having a baby won't have any bearing on the court case?
---------------------------------------------------------------------There is no court case
If there was, it would be looking at what happened on that occasion.
If the evidence supported a conviction, then their current relationship status really wouldn’t be much of a defence.
Don’t you get bored of this?
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who are you addressing with that question? All of us?
Nothing. The call was horrible but I also don't have the access the club do. I can't speak to either of them, I have no idea what goes on.
I actually trust the club will have done enough to justify whatever decision they make. So if they were to release him, I'd trust that whatever they are privy to justifies that. If they keep him on then I'd give the benefit of the doubt that they have enough of an understanding of the situation to believe that he's not the way the call might make it seem. I have no idea what it could be but there's always a possibility that there's some or even a lot of context we don't have access to. But I'm fairly sure they'll have spoken extensively with him, the family, his girlfriend, they'll have had a lot of legal advice and if it's deemed that he's worth supporting on the club's side then I don't have enough to say with absolute certainty that they've made the comlmdye wrong call.
But the club is the club and regardless of who is there or what's going on, my feelings in that regard won't ever change. I can't see Why anyone's feelings about the club would change. You might not like something someone currently there is doing but they're completely different things.
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't want him to play for the club again as what he did was wrong IMO.
However, I'm not going to let one foolish person stop my 40 year association with the club either. I'd be disappointed but I'd still support the club.
I'm all for second chances and I honestly hope he's learnt and grown from this but I'd rather he rebuild his life elsewhere.
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Have you not considered that the club standing by him could be something be proud of (if guilty of no more than speaking g to her horribly)
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If they stand by him and he completely turns his life around then I'll be more than happy to admit the club was right.
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Turn his life around how? No similar recordings.
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Well that would be a start!
Also, he could acknowledge his behaviour was unacceptable whilst also being an advocate for some charity like Refuge for example.
He may be being advised against it but I think he'd get a bit more favourable coverage if he was contrite about what he did. The silence isn't doing him any good IMO.
Actually I'd invade the pitch, pin a female steward down and attempt to sexaully assault her, but as people approached me to try and get me off her, I'd pull out a picture showing that I'm a family man with a wife and kids. Then they'd stop in their tracks. They must have been mistaken. Their eyes were lying to them. That would sort it.
Actually maybe more appropriate would be to invade the pitch, dragging my wife on with me, then punching the fack out of her and sexually abusing her, then as people approach to try and stop me, flash the wedding ring and pic of the kid
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 41 seconds ago
We don’t know she has withdrawn her statement (unless that is the same as withdrawing as a witness)
A conviction would depend on the facts. If he did assault her as alleged, and the evidence supported this, then a conviction wouldn’t be hindered by their current relationship status.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Them getting back together wouldn't effect the chances of a prosecution??? I really have heard it all lol.
I won't keep this thread going, that one statement answers everything for me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s true
Going out, engaged, married, their relationship status doesn’t matter. They are looking at what he did or didn’t do. Not where they are now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think them getting back together and having a baby won't have any bearing on the court case?
---------------------------------------------------------------------There is no court case
If there was, it would be looking at what happened on that occasion.
If the evidence supported a conviction, then their current relationship status really wouldn’t be much of a defence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, the victim withdrawing their co-operation, getting back with the accused & having a baby would effect the possibility of a guilty verdict, you don't agree. Let's leave it there
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
Actually maybe more appropriate would be to invade the pitch, dragging my wife on with me, then punching the fack out of her and sexually abusing her, then as people approach to try and stop me, flash the wedding ring and pic of the kid
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RDD will then lead the crowd into a rendition of "get your fookin' legs up" as you walk off defiant and victorious.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
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Who are you addressing with that question? All of us?
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
If
If you can keep Greenwood when all about you
Are telling you to loan him or to move him on
Yours is the world and all that is in it
And, what's more, you'll be Man U, my son
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 41 seconds ago
We don’t know she has withdrawn her statement (unless that is the same as withdrawing as a witness)
A conviction would depend on the facts. If he did assault her as alleged, and the evidence supported this, then a conviction wouldn’t be hindered by their current relationship status.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Them getting back together wouldn't effect the chances of a prosecution??? I really have heard it all lol.
I won't keep this thread going, that one statement answers everything for me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s true
Going out, engaged, married, their relationship status doesn’t matter. They are looking at what he did or didn’t do. Not where they are now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think them getting back together and having a baby won't have any bearing on the court case?
---------------------------------------------------------------------There is no court case
If there was, it would be looking at what happened on that occasion.
If the evidence supported a conviction, then their current relationship status really wouldn’t be much of a defence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, the victim withdrawing their co-operation, getting back with the accused & having a baby would effect the possibility of a guilty verdict, you don't agree. Let's leave it there
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If the evidence supports a conviction, then their current relationship status would not impact the verdict.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes 2 (or more) to Tango.
Another day another RapeDD chuckle. Good old role-play!
I'd say there is a danger here of trivialising domestic abuse cases.
It's obviously going to be very hard to convict if the main witness/victim withdraws her statement/complaint.
Domestic abuse is a complex matter. It doesn't necessarily end when people get back together. There's plenty of examples where people keep going back yo their abusive partner because they're scared of what will happen if they actually leave.
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes 2 (or more) to Tango.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah but sometimes the other person doesn't consent to it
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 47 seconds ago
I'd say there is a danger here of trivialising domestic abuse cases.
It's obviously going to be very hard to convict if the main witness/victim withdraws her statement/complaint.
Domestic abuse is a complex matter. It doesn't necessarily end when people get back together. There's plenty of examples where people keep going back yo their abusive partner because they're scared of what will happen if they actually leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think talking about it only helps to highlight the topic.
In this case, it wasn’t just a failure to convict. They didn’t think it was worthy of a trial.
Yes. Many stay in abusive relationships. That doesn’t mean this is the case here.
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 47 seconds ago
I'd say there is a danger here of trivialising domestic abuse cases.
It's obviously going to be very hard to convict if the main witness/victim withdraws her statement/complaint.
Domestic abuse is a complex matter. It doesn't necessarily end when people get back together. There's plenty of examples where people keep going back yo their abusive partner because they're scared of what will happen if they actually leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think talking about it only helps to highlight the topic.
In this case, it wasn’t just a failure to convict. They didn’t think it was worthy of a trial.
Yes. Many stay in abusive relationships. That doesn’t mean this is the case here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
*Once the victim withdrew her co-operation.
Talking about it does help but no if the topic is making excuses for the abuser or constantly saying they deserve a second chance
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes 2 (or more) to Tango.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah but sometimes the other person doesn't consent to it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 32 minutes ago
If
If you can keep Greenwood when all about you
Are telling you to loan him or to move him on
Yours is the world and all that is in it
And, what's more, you'll be Man U, my son
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair attempt
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes 2 (or more) to Tango.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah but sometimes the other person doesn't consent to it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 47 seconds ago
I'd say there is a danger here of trivialising domestic abuse cases.
It's obviously going to be very hard to convict if the main witness/victim withdraws her statement/complaint.
Domestic abuse is a complex matter. It doesn't necessarily end when people get back together. There's plenty of examples where people keep going back yo their abusive partner because they're scared of what will happen if they actually leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think talking about it only helps to highlight the topic.
In this case, it wasn’t just a failure to convict. They didn’t think it was worthy of a trial.
Yes. Many stay in abusive relationships. That doesn’t mean this is the case here.
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*Once the victim withdrew her co-operation.
Talking about it does help but no if the topic is making excuses for the abuser or constantly saying they deserve a second chance
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Alleged victim.
And we don't know he was an abuser.
Sign in if you want to comment
If
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posted on 10/8/23
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 41 seconds ago
We don’t know she has withdrawn her statement (unless that is the same as withdrawing as a witness)
A conviction would depend on the facts. If he did assault her as alleged, and the evidence supported this, then a conviction wouldn’t be hindered by their current relationship status.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Them getting back together wouldn't effect the chances of a prosecution??? I really have heard it all lol.
I won't keep this thread going, that one statement answers everything for me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s true
Going out, engaged, married, their relationship status doesn’t matter. They are looking at what he did or didn’t do. Not where they are now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think them getting back together and having a baby won't have any bearing on the court case?
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 41 seconds ago
We don’t know she has withdrawn her statement (unless that is the same as withdrawing as a witness)
A conviction would depend on the facts. If he did assault her as alleged, and the evidence supported this, then a conviction wouldn’t be hindered by their current relationship status.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Them getting back together wouldn't effect the chances of a prosecution??? I really have heard it all lol.
I won't keep this thread going, that one statement answers everything for me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s true
Going out, engaged, married, their relationship status doesn’t matter. They are looking at what he did or didn’t do. Not where they are now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think them getting back together and having a baby won't have any bearing on the court case?
---------------------------------------------------------------------There is no court case
If there was, it would be looking at what happened on that occasion.
If the evidence supported a conviction, then their current relationship status really wouldn’t be much of a defence.
posted on 10/8/23
Don’t you get bored of this?
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who are you addressing with that question? All of us?
posted on 10/8/23
Nothing. The call was horrible but I also don't have the access the club do. I can't speak to either of them, I have no idea what goes on.
I actually trust the club will have done enough to justify whatever decision they make. So if they were to release him, I'd trust that whatever they are privy to justifies that. If they keep him on then I'd give the benefit of the doubt that they have enough of an understanding of the situation to believe that he's not the way the call might make it seem. I have no idea what it could be but there's always a possibility that there's some or even a lot of context we don't have access to. But I'm fairly sure they'll have spoken extensively with him, the family, his girlfriend, they'll have had a lot of legal advice and if it's deemed that he's worth supporting on the club's side then I don't have enough to say with absolute certainty that they've made the comlmdye wrong call.
But the club is the club and regardless of who is there or what's going on, my feelings in that regard won't ever change. I can't see Why anyone's feelings about the club would change. You might not like something someone currently there is doing but they're completely different things.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't want him to play for the club again as what he did was wrong IMO.
However, I'm not going to let one foolish person stop my 40 year association with the club either. I'd be disappointed but I'd still support the club.
I'm all for second chances and I honestly hope he's learnt and grown from this but I'd rather he rebuild his life elsewhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have you not considered that the club standing by him could be something be proud of (if guilty of no more than speaking g to her horribly)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If they stand by him and he completely turns his life around then I'll be more than happy to admit the club was right.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Turn his life around how? No similar recordings.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well that would be a start!
Also, he could acknowledge his behaviour was unacceptable whilst also being an advocate for some charity like Refuge for example.
He may be being advised against it but I think he'd get a bit more favourable coverage if he was contrite about what he did. The silence isn't doing him any good IMO.
posted on 10/8/23
Actually I'd invade the pitch, pin a female steward down and attempt to sexaully assault her, but as people approached me to try and get me off her, I'd pull out a picture showing that I'm a family man with a wife and kids. Then they'd stop in their tracks. They must have been mistaken. Their eyes were lying to them. That would sort it.
posted on 10/8/23
Actually maybe more appropriate would be to invade the pitch, dragging my wife on with me, then punching the fack out of her and sexually abusing her, then as people approach to try and stop me, flash the wedding ring and pic of the kid
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 41 seconds ago
We don’t know she has withdrawn her statement (unless that is the same as withdrawing as a witness)
A conviction would depend on the facts. If he did assault her as alleged, and the evidence supported this, then a conviction wouldn’t be hindered by their current relationship status.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Them getting back together wouldn't effect the chances of a prosecution??? I really have heard it all lol.
I won't keep this thread going, that one statement answers everything for me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s true
Going out, engaged, married, their relationship status doesn’t matter. They are looking at what he did or didn’t do. Not where they are now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think them getting back together and having a baby won't have any bearing on the court case?
---------------------------------------------------------------------There is no court case
If there was, it would be looking at what happened on that occasion.
If the evidence supported a conviction, then their current relationship status really wouldn’t be much of a defence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, the victim withdrawing their co-operation, getting back with the accused & having a baby would effect the possibility of a guilty verdict, you don't agree. Let's leave it there
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
Actually maybe more appropriate would be to invade the pitch, dragging my wife on with me, then punching the fack out of her and sexually abusing her, then as people approach to try and stop me, flash the wedding ring and pic of the kid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
RDD will then lead the crowd into a rendition of "get your fookin' legs up" as you walk off defiant and victorious.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who are you addressing with that question? All of us?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
posted on 10/8/23
If
If you can keep Greenwood when all about you
Are telling you to loan him or to move him on
Yours is the world and all that is in it
And, what's more, you'll be Man U, my son
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 41 seconds ago
We don’t know she has withdrawn her statement (unless that is the same as withdrawing as a witness)
A conviction would depend on the facts. If he did assault her as alleged, and the evidence supported this, then a conviction wouldn’t be hindered by their current relationship status.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Them getting back together wouldn't effect the chances of a prosecution??? I really have heard it all lol.
I won't keep this thread going, that one statement answers everything for me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s true
Going out, engaged, married, their relationship status doesn’t matter. They are looking at what he did or didn’t do. Not where they are now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think them getting back together and having a baby won't have any bearing on the court case?
---------------------------------------------------------------------There is no court case
If there was, it would be looking at what happened on that occasion.
If the evidence supported a conviction, then their current relationship status really wouldn’t be much of a defence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, the victim withdrawing their co-operation, getting back with the accused & having a baby would effect the possibility of a guilty verdict, you don't agree. Let's leave it there
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the evidence supports a conviction, then their current relationship status would not impact the verdict.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes 2 (or more) to Tango.
posted on 10/8/23
Another day another RapeDD chuckle. Good old role-play!
posted on 10/8/23
I'd say there is a danger here of trivialising domestic abuse cases.
It's obviously going to be very hard to convict if the main witness/victim withdraws her statement/complaint.
Domestic abuse is a complex matter. It doesn't necessarily end when people get back together. There's plenty of examples where people keep going back yo their abusive partner because they're scared of what will happen if they actually leave.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes 2 (or more) to Tango.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah but sometimes the other person doesn't consent to it
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 47 seconds ago
I'd say there is a danger here of trivialising domestic abuse cases.
It's obviously going to be very hard to convict if the main witness/victim withdraws her statement/complaint.
Domestic abuse is a complex matter. It doesn't necessarily end when people get back together. There's plenty of examples where people keep going back yo their abusive partner because they're scared of what will happen if they actually leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think talking about it only helps to highlight the topic.
In this case, it wasn’t just a failure to convict. They didn’t think it was worthy of a trial.
Yes. Many stay in abusive relationships. That doesn’t mean this is the case here.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 47 seconds ago
I'd say there is a danger here of trivialising domestic abuse cases.
It's obviously going to be very hard to convict if the main witness/victim withdraws her statement/complaint.
Domestic abuse is a complex matter. It doesn't necessarily end when people get back together. There's plenty of examples where people keep going back yo their abusive partner because they're scared of what will happen if they actually leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think talking about it only helps to highlight the topic.
In this case, it wasn’t just a failure to convict. They didn’t think it was worthy of a trial.
Yes. Many stay in abusive relationships. That doesn’t mean this is the case here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
*Once the victim withdrew her co-operation.
Talking about it does help but no if the topic is making excuses for the abuser or constantly saying they deserve a second chance
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes 2 (or more) to Tango.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah but sometimes the other person doesn't consent to it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 32 minutes ago
If
If you can keep Greenwood when all about you
Are telling you to loan him or to move him on
Yours is the world and all that is in it
And, what's more, you'll be Man U, my son
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair attempt
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t you get bored of this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Challenging misconceptions? No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having the same arguments, over and over again. Weird way to get your kicks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes 2 (or more) to Tango.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah but sometimes the other person doesn't consent to it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 47 seconds ago
I'd say there is a danger here of trivialising domestic abuse cases.
It's obviously going to be very hard to convict if the main witness/victim withdraws her statement/complaint.
Domestic abuse is a complex matter. It doesn't necessarily end when people get back together. There's plenty of examples where people keep going back yo their abusive partner because they're scared of what will happen if they actually leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think talking about it only helps to highlight the topic.
In this case, it wasn’t just a failure to convict. They didn’t think it was worthy of a trial.
Yes. Many stay in abusive relationships. That doesn’t mean this is the case here.
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*Once the victim withdrew her co-operation.
Talking about it does help but no if the topic is making excuses for the abuser or constantly saying they deserve a second chance
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Alleged victim.
And we don't know he was an abuser.
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