comment by Mamba (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
Palestinians should be able to build their lives where they are now. Focus should be on whoever is causing them to leave.

I haven't seen you making a thread saying Ukrainians should leave Ukraine and leave it to Russia. What a hypocrite.

What a ridiculous, Israel pandering, devoid of logic line of thought. Bias always comes out no matter how you try to hide it.
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Wow, you really are genuinely stupid, aren’t you? I’m calling for freedom of choice for Palestinians and you’re saying I’m pandering to Israel. You’re an utter clown.

Israel aren’t going to back down, no matter what you and I post on here. That isn’t pandering that’s being a realist. And the realism is that many families will realise that their only chance of a peaceful life is to move to another country. Yet you think they should stay and fight for their land.

Grow up Mamba.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)


The median liberal position about Israel-Palestine is favouring a two-state solution which allows both communities to live in peace and prosperity, and enjoying full civic rights.
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And what makes you think that a two-state solution would work?

Muslim countries keep having civil wars.
Established Democracies are stable

I don't know why people hate democracies so much and think Muslim countries are peaceful. It's completely bizarre.

If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people being opressed, and loving the people doing the oppression

- Malcom X

https://twitter.com/vhitaeplisseth/status/1712835669179908577?s=20

Wow, you really are genuinely stupid, aren’t you? I’m calling for freedom of choice for Palestinians and you’re saying I’m pandering to Israel. You’re an utter clown.
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You've really convinced yourself that your neutral haven't you?

Palestinians freedom of choice according to polls is to remain in Palestine and be free like the rest of the world.

So if you're calling for their freedom of choice then stop this refugee bullsheet and actually call for Palestinians freedom of choice.

Why do I have to explain this? Because you are not neutral. Show me where you asked Ukrainians to leave Ukraine "if they've had enough of it". I'm sure you say the opposite in Ukraine.

Hypocritical clown.

I'm sure if we had a two state solution all would be find and dandy. Here's how peaceful modern Islamic state's are:



Iraqi civil war
Iraqi insurgency
Islamic State insurgency in Iraq
Syrian civil war
Syrian civil war spillover in Lebanon
Syrian civil war spillover in Iraq
Inter-rebel conflict during the Syrian civil war
Syrian civil war spillover in Turkey
Rojava conflict
Rojava-Islamist conflict
Sinai insurgency
Terrorism in Egypt
Second Libyan Civil War
Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
The Afghanistan conflict
Islamic State–Taliban conflict
Balkhab uprising
Insurgency in Cabo Delgado
Civil conflict in the Philippines
Moro conflict
Yemeni Civil War
Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen
Al-Qaeda insurgency in Yemen
Boko Haram insurgency
2015 Niger raid
Insurgency in the North Caucasus
Islamic State insurgency in the North Caucasus
Insurgency in the Maghreb
Islamic State insurgency in Tunisia
Somali Civil War
Internal conflict in Bangladesh
Gaza–Israel conflict
Kivu conflict

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people being opressed, and loving the people doing the oppression

- Malcom X
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Was listening to Nick Ferrari justifying the blowing up of hospitals and sick babies this morning because the IDF apparently stated that 'Hamas MAY be under there' , it's such a weak narrative that i am truly shocked that people buy it that they are so inhumane...it makes no sense to me.

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people being opressed, and loving the people doing the oppression

- Malcom X
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Was listening to Nick Ferrari justifying the blowing up of hospitals and sick babies this morning because the IDF apparently stated that 'Hamas MAY be under there' , it's such a weak narrative that i am truly shocked that people buy it that they are so inhumane...it makes no sense to me.
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Imagine for 1 second any islamic country doing this and what would be the reaction of the collective west?

Boils down to racism and WS

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
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Was listening to Nick Ferrari justifying the blowing up of hospitals and sick babies this morning because the IDF apparently stated that 'Hamas MAY be under there' , it's such a weak narrative that i am truly shocked that people buy it that they are so inhumane...it makes no sense to me.
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Imagine for 1 second any islamic country doing this and what would be the reaction of the collective west?

Boils down to racism and WS
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More than 130 health facilities(2019) in Yemen have been destroyed by a series of airstrikes conducted by the Saudi Arabian-led coalition since March 2015. Many of these have been public health hospitals staffed or supported by Doctors Without Borders (MSF).

comment by Mamba (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wow, you really are genuinely stupid, aren’t you? I’m calling for freedom of choice for Palestinians and you’re saying I’m pandering to Israel. You’re an utter clown.
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You've really convinced yourself that your neutral haven't you?

Palestinians freedom of choice according to polls is to remain in Palestine and be free like the rest of the world.

So if you're calling for their freedom of choice then stop this refugee bullsheet and actually call for Palestinians freedom of choice.

Why do I have to explain this? Because you are not neutral. Show me where you asked Ukrainians to leave Ukraine "if they've had enough of it". I'm sure you say the opposite in Ukraine.

Hypocritical clown.

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Thousands of Ukrainians have left, and they were allowed to do so and have been accepted into other countries, our own included. Those that chose to stay and defend their country have done so. It’s not even close to the situation the Palestinians find themselves in.

Why are you waffling on about polls? Anyone with half a brain knows that the vast majority of people would rather not be forced to leave their country of birth, that isn’t the point.

You’re continually altering what I’m saying and my meanings behind it. It’s either intentional in order to win an argument to feed your ego, or you don’t have the capacity to understand that everything isn’t black and white in the world.

comment by Whyarewelosing (U23097)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm sure if we had a two state solution all would be find and dandy. Here's how peaceful modern Islamic state's are:



Iraqi civil war
Iraqi insurgency
Islamic State insurgency in Iraq
Syrian civil war
Syrian civil war spillover in Lebanon
Syrian civil war spillover in Iraq
Inter-rebel conflict during the Syrian civil war
Syrian civil war spillover in Turkey
Rojava conflict
Rojava-Islamist conflict
Sinai insurgency
Terrorism in Egypt
Second Libyan Civil War
Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
The Afghanistan conflict
Islamic State–Taliban conflict
Balkhab uprising
Insurgency in Cabo Delgado
Civil conflict in the Philippines
Moro conflict
Yemeni Civil War
Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen
Al-Qaeda insurgency in Yemen
Boko Haram insurgency
2015 Niger raid
Insurgency in the North Caucasus
Islamic State insurgency in the North Caucasus
Insurgency in the Maghreb
Islamic State insurgency in Tunisia
Somali Civil War
Internal conflict in Bangladesh
Gaza–Israel conflict
Kivu conflict
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Nice of you to make this list. How many of them were not created or somehow linked to USA, UK or their allies Genuine question. I can't see any.

Iraqi civil war- Invasion of Iraq, hundreds of thousands dead, millions suffering, terrorist groups take over, no WMDs ever found, stable dictatorship replaced by absolute commotion. I thought they were gonna make the world safer? Doesn't feel so safe at the mo.

And so on and so forth, down your list we could go.

Furthermore, if we had a two state solution then why would everything else remain the same you genius?

It's like when people say if the ref had allowed our goal we'd have won. Well, if ref had allowed your goal, the rest of the game would have been completely different and who knows if you'd have won?

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Imagine for 1 second any islamic country doing this and what would be the reaction of the collective west?

Boils down to racism and WS
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More than 130 health facilities(2019) in Yemen have been destroyed by a series of airstrikes conducted by the Saudi Arabian-led coalition since March 2015. Many of these have been public health hospitals staffed or supported by Doctors Without Borders (MSF).


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Of course you wouldn't know this because the bbc didn't blanket coverage it

They're bombing water towers, bakeries, mosques and churchs.

They ask the civilians to leave then bomb the evacuation routes.

They have weopnised water ffs PURE EVIL ON SHOW but Hamas are terrorists so alls good in the hood.

They dont allow peaceful protests and purposely aimed at limbs when peaceful attempts were made for the injustices.

They use the military to back settlers wound, kill and terrorise innocent civilians. Look at the West bank no hamas there

Now they're openly commiting genocide for the whole world to see and nobody says anything. Their right wing government dont even try to hide the agenda

comment by Mamba (U1282)

Nice of you to make this list. How many of them were not created or somehow linked to USA, UK or their allies Genuine question. I can't see any.

Iraqi civil war- Invasion of Iraq, hundreds of thousands dead, millions suffering, terrorist groups take over, no WMDs ever found, stable dictatorship replaced by absolute commotion. I thought they were gonna make the world safer? Doesn't feel so safe at the mo.

And so on and so forth, down your list we could go.

Furthermore, if we had a two state solution then why would everything else remain the same you genius?

It's like when people say if the ref had allowed our goal we'd have won. Well, if ref had allowed your goal, the rest of the game would have been completely different and who knows if you'd have won?

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Predictable response. Blame it on anyone else except the Islamic State countries.

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people being opressed, and loving the people doing the oppression

- Malcom X
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Was listening to Nick Ferrari justifying the blowing up of hospitals and sick babies this morning because the IDF apparently stated that 'Hamas MAY be under there' , it's such a weak narrative that i am truly shocked that people buy it that they are so inhumane...it makes no sense to me.
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Imagine for 1 second any islamic country doing this and what would be the reaction of the collective west?

Boils down to racism and WS
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100%

I wonder if Mamba will claim that the concept of Jihad was invented by the USA

Thousands of Ukrainians have left, and they were allowed to do so and have been accepted into other countries, our own included. Those that chose to stay and defend their country have done so. It’s not even close to the situation the Palestinians find themselves in.
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Da faq are YOU waffling on about?

Thousands of Palestinians have left, and have been leaving for decades because of what I explained, Israel intentionally trying to get them to leave through the methods stated, and they were allowed to do so and have been accepted into other countries, our own included. Those that chose to stay and defend their country have done so.

Some are even trying to return but are not allowed to do so by Israel. I thought you were calling for freedom of choice. Or does that only apply to the Arabs? A fact like that would never come from you. All you know is one side of the story, you paragon of unbiasedness.

Imagine sayings fack all about that and instead focusing on other Arab states not allowing refugees. It's not OK that they don't allow refugees, but how can that take precedence over what I just pointed out?

Try again.

I don't think any, or many, want to see Israel continue bombing Gaza, I certainly don't. I'm talking about on here btw.
Regarding the second part of the OP, it's probably true as some surrounding countries have vowed to exterminate Israel.

comment by Whyarewelosing (U23097)
posted 4 minutes ago
I wonder if Mamba will claim that the concept of Jihad was invented by the USA
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Jihad is based on the Quran. It's the concept or ideology of terrorism in the middle east that can be linked to the cold war when USA helped to foment, strengthen and motivate the ideology in order to hurt the USSR when I invaded Afghanistan. It actually worked like a charm. The Russians got their asses hurt real bad by people shouting "Allah Akbar" turning everything into a crater.

We armed and enabled their enemies, they armed and enabled ours. In the process, many countries were damaged or destroyed altogether.

If any of this is false, kindly let me know.

This quickly turned into the predictable ‘you’re either with us or against us’ situation. There’s no denying whatsoever that the west are responsible for many of the issues, but does anyone think they’d all be one big happy family without the influence of the west? Would the oppression of its own citizens ever end?

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't think any, or many, want to see Israel continue bombing Gaza, I certainly don't. I'm talking about on here btw.
Regarding the second part of the OP, it's probably true as some surrounding countries have vowed to exterminate Israel.
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Which countries have vowed to exterminate Israel?

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 41 seconds ago
This quickly turned into the predictable ‘you’re either with us or against us’ situation. There’s no denying whatsoever that the west are responsible for many of the issues, but does anyone think they’d all be one big happy family without the influence of the west? Would the oppression of its own citizens ever end?
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Honestly, we can never know what it'd be like. All we know is what has actually happened.

We can't use hypotheticals and what ifs to excuse reality.

comment by Mamba (U1282)
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Jihad is based on the Quran. It's the concept or ideology of terrorism in the middle east that can be linked to the cold war when USA helped to foment, strengthen and motivate the ideology in order to hurt the USSR when I invaded Afghanistan. It actually worked like a charm. The Russians got their asses hurt real bad by people shouting "Allah Akbar" turning everything into a crater.

We armed and enabled their enemies, they armed and enabled ours. In the process, many countries were damaged or destroyed altogether.

If any of this is false, kindly let me know.
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Another predictable response

Do tell Mamba, has Jihad never been used by Islamic State leaders to invoke holy wars, or is this all just a misinterpretation by the West ?

comment by Mamba (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
Thousands of Ukrainians have left, and they were allowed to do so and have been accepted into other countries, our own included. Those that chose to stay and defend their country have done so. It’s not even close to the situation the Palestinians find themselves in.
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Da faq are YOU waffling on about?

Thousands of Palestinians have left, and have been leaving for decades because of what I explained, Israel intentionally trying to get them to leave through the methods stated, and they were allowed to do so and have been accepted into other countries, our own included. Those that chose to stay and defend their country have done so.

Some are even trying to return but are not allowed to do so by Israel. I thought you were calling for freedom of choice. Or does that only apply to the Arabs? A fact like that would never come from you. All you know is one side of the story, you paragon of unbiasedness.

Imagine sayings fack all about that and instead focusing on other Arab states not allowing refugees. It's not OK that they don't allow refugees, but how can that take precedence over what I just pointed out?

Try again.
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I’m answering the points that are raised on here and you keep adding things and then going mad that I haven’t addressed them. You’re a bloody lunatic.

comment by Mamba (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - One man down, One nil up (U21434)
posted 58 seconds ago
....and btw Benjamin Netanyahu made the quote in the OP.!
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No wonder the OP didn't want to name him.

These unbiased and neutral guys keep listening to and rationalizing for one side only. It's like only half their brain is working, the Israel half.

"But but but... I swear I'm neutral, why you calling me biased"


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No, it wasn't Netanyahu.