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posted on 28/12/23

Surely fans would feel much safer with 8000 of their own around them than 800. I don't think the safety issue is protecting the fans once they are actually seated

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 41 seconds ago
Surely fans would feel much safer with 8000 of their own around them than 800. I don't think the safety issue is protecting the fans once they are actually seated
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is that why the tickets are being rejected?? cos they dont feel safe enough?

Like I said its far easier to escort and cordone 800 fans than it is 8000 fans thats just common sense.

we dont know what the actual "safety" reasons are as celtic will disclose them. funny that

posted on 28/12/23

I don't know what the safety concerns are. I'm just trying to think more generally and being significantly outnumbered creates more 'what it' scenarios

posted on 28/12/23

The problem is that all this is doing is creating more animosity to a situation that doesn't need it

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't know what the safety concerns are. I'm just trying to think more generally and being significantly outnumbered creates more 'what it' scenarios
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not in and around the stadiums..... every other team gets the same treatment and their fans seem safe enough.

i think its telling that we have never been told what safety concerns celtic have.... why on earth wouldnt you confirm that if it really was a concern.

posted on 28/12/23

It's obviously being used as some kind of bargaining chip.

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 18 seconds ago
It's obviously being used as some kind of bargaining chip.
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Or because they know we will or have already rectified any "safety concern" and then they have nothing to fall back on.

From what I was led to believe they dont want the 800 tickets cos it means being in the corner with two stands either side of them. Since then we installed nets for that corner to combat that.

The fans are seperated and escorted from the exits of the corner stand away from the rangers fans, as far as Im aware there has never been any trouble in the last 15/20 years from fans leaving the stadium.

posted on 28/12/23

I'm curious if its the same safety concerns celtic had for Ibrox as they do for parkhead

posted on 28/12/23

You'd think that Rangers will have risk assessed accepting an 800 allocation at parkhead as well

comment by lauders (U9757)

posted on 28/12/23

More talk of Fabio silva joining on loan from wolves.

Not really locked on after early hype. Suits our model.

comment by lauders (U9757)

posted on 28/12/23

No buy out clause included I might add

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 41 minutes ago
Surely fans would feel much safer with 8000 of their own around them than 800. I don't think the safety issue is protecting the fans once they are actually seated
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Actually that's why Celtic started to refuse 800 after it was cut.

Fans getting pelted from both sides and up high. Rangers refused to guarantee safety

posted on 28/12/23

Where on earth is this notion coming from that Celtic have to explain to anyone (let alone Rangers or their fans) as to what their “safety concerns” are that mean they’ll offer no tickets?

Celtic don’t have to explain to anybody at all other than give notice to the authorities of their decision.

Call it pettiness or whatever anyone likes. I’m sure Celtic or their fans don’t give a flying fwck.

Since the last fixture at Ibrox there was this mental idea that because Rangers offered Celtic tickets, then Celtic must or be forced to reciprocate. Or else.

Or else what? The idea was utterly laughable in the first place.

So now we are where we are. With 800 fans it’s pretty pointless and may as well be zero as far as most fans are concerned. And if this latest “move” gets the clubs round the table then that’s all good with me and I’m sure most fans.

If not, then so be it. I suppose that puts the ball equally in both courts to make things change. It certainly won’t be in Celtic’s. They’ve made their position very clear and the idea that they will relent come the next game is a joke. If anything, I expect Rangers will just go toe to toe and not bother offering Celtic any for the next fixture either.

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Where on earth is this notion coming from that Celtic have to explain to anyone (let alone Rangers or their fans) as to what their “safety concerns” are that mean they’ll offer no tickets?

Celtic don’t have to explain to anybody at all other than give notice to the authorities of their decision.

Call it pettiness or whatever anyone likes. I’m sure Celtic or their fans don’t give a flying fwck.

Since the last fixture at Ibrox there was this mental idea that because Rangers offered Celtic tickets, then Celtic must or be forced to reciprocate. Or else.

Or else what? The idea was utterly laughable in the first place.

So now we are where we are. With 800 fans it’s pretty pointless and may as well be zero as far as most fans are concerned. And if this latest “move” gets the clubs round the table then that’s all good with me and I’m sure most fans.

If not, then so be it. I suppose that puts the ball equally in both courts to make things change. It certainly won’t be in Celtic’s. They’ve made their position very clear and the idea that they will relent come the next game is a joke. If anything, I expect Rangers will just go toe to toe and not bother offering Celtic any for the next fixture either.
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Think you’re missing the point here:

Celtic bad.

posted on 28/12/23

As a pointless aside: who tf is it keeps one starring every single article? This is quite a good one.

posted on 28/12/23

comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Where on earth is this notion coming from that Celtic have to explain to anyone (let alone Rangers or their fans) as to what their “safety concerns” are that mean they’ll offer no tickets?

Celtic don’t have to explain to anybody at all other than give notice to the authorities of their decision.

Call it pettiness or whatever anyone likes. I’m sure Celtic or their fans don’t give a flying fwck.

Since the last fixture at Ibrox there was this mental idea that because Rangers offered Celtic tickets, then Celtic must or be forced to reciprocate. Or else.

Or else what? The idea was utterly laughable in the first place.

So now we are where we are. With 800 fans it’s pretty pointless and may as well be zero as far as most fans are concerned. And if this latest “move” gets the clubs round the table then that’s all good with me and I’m sure most fans.

If not, then so be it. I suppose that puts the ball equally in both courts to make things change. It certainly won’t be in Celtic’s. They’ve made their position very clear and the idea that they will relent come the next game is a joke. If anything, I expect Rangers will just go toe to toe and not bother offering Celtic any for the next fixture either.
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Think you’re missing the point here:

Celtic bad.
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I’d call it negotiation, but with no requirement to reach an agreement. I’m starting to think both clubs are prepared to accept this situation of having no fans at away games at all.

Celtic appear to have taken that ultimate position already.

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Where on earth is this notion coming from that Celtic have to explain to anyone (let alone Rangers or their fans) as to what their “safety concerns” are that mean they’ll offer no tickets?

Celtic don’t have to explain to anybody at all other than give notice to the authorities of their decision.

Call it pettiness or whatever anyone likes. I’m sure Celtic or their fans don’t give a flying fwck.

Since the last fixture at Ibrox there was this mental idea that because Rangers offered Celtic tickets, then Celtic must or be forced to reciprocate. Or else.

Or else what? The idea was utterly laughable in the first place.

So now we are where we are. With 800 fans it’s pretty pointless and may as well be zero as far as most fans are concerned. And if this latest “move” gets the clubs round the table then that’s all good with me and I’m sure most fans.

If not, then so be it. I suppose that puts the ball equally in both courts to make things change. It certainly won’t be in Celtic’s. They’ve made their position very clear and the idea that they will relent come the next game is a joke. If anything, I expect Rangers will just go toe to toe and not bother offering Celtic any for the next fixture either.
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Because if the safety concerns are Rangers fans are intimidating Celtic with their attractiveness, revealing clothing and flamboyant dance moves then the fans deserve the opportunity to simply dress down for the game or offer the tickets to our elderly conservative fans

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Where on earth is this notion coming from that Celtic have to explain to anyone (let alone Rangers or their fans) as to what their “safety concerns” are that mean they’ll offer no tickets?

Celtic don’t have to explain to anybody at all other than give notice to the authorities of their decision.

Call it pettiness or whatever anyone likes. I’m sure Celtic or their fans don’t give a flying fwck.

Since the last fixture at Ibrox there was this mental idea that because Rangers offered Celtic tickets, then Celtic must or be forced to reciprocate. Or else.

Or else what? The idea was utterly laughable in the first place.

So now we are where we are. With 800 fans it’s pretty pointless and may as well be zero as far as most fans are concerned. And if this latest “move” gets the clubs round the table then that’s all good with me and I’m sure most fans.

If not, then so be it. I suppose that puts the ball equally in both courts to make things change. It certainly won’t be in Celtic’s. They’ve made their position very clear and the idea that they will relent come the next game is a joke. If anything, I expect Rangers will just go toe to toe and not bother offering Celtic any for the next fixture either.
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Think you’re missing the point here:

Celtic bad.
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I’d call it negotiation, but with no requirement to reach an agreement. I’m starting to think both clubs are prepared to accept this situation of having no fans at away games at all.

Celtic appear to have taken that ultimate position already.
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Certainly seems that way. As I previously said its fairly easy to come up with safety concerns to the governing bodies.

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Where on earth is this notion coming from that Celtic have to explain to anyone (let alone Rangers or their fans) as to what their “safety concerns” are that mean they’ll offer no tickets?

Celtic don’t have to explain to anybody at all other than give notice to the authorities of their decision.

Call it pettiness or whatever anyone likes. I’m sure Celtic or their fans don’t give a flying fwck.

Since the last fixture at Ibrox there was this mental idea that because Rangers offered Celtic tickets, then Celtic must or be forced to reciprocate. Or else.

Or else what? The idea was utterly laughable in the first place.

So now we are where we are. With 800 fans it’s pretty pointless and may as well be zero as far as most fans are concerned. And if this latest “move” gets the clubs round the table then that’s all good with me and I’m sure most fans.

If not, then so be it. I suppose that puts the ball equally in both courts to make things change. It certainly won’t be in Celtic’s. They’ve made their position very clear and the idea that they will relent come the next game is a joke. If anything, I expect Rangers will just go toe to toe and not bother offering Celtic any for the next fixture either.
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Because if the safety concerns are Rangers fans are intimidating Celtic with their attractiveness, revealing clothing and flamboyant dance moves then the fans deserve the opportunity to simply dress down for the game or offer the tickets to our elderly conservative fans
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Probably the most sensible approach yet

posted on 28/12/23

Imagine turning up to Celtic park all dressed up ready to show off to your rivals with the ultimate girfuy and you see all the celtic fans are wearing the same clothes. Rangers fans get mad and start singing You have no style of your own. Celtic get embarrassed. Someone in the Rangers end does an outrageous dance move that upsets Celtic. Celtic fans then think there's only 800 of them even if they are better dancers. Next thing you know 50k celtic fans are serving 800 Rangers fans and a riot occurs.

There are several varients in that example which make an easy safety concern case

posted on 28/12/23

And unfortunately most of the general public, police and governing bodies think that all Rangers fans are well dressed amazing dancers and all Celtic fans are stealing their style and do the same

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 1 minute ago
Imagine turning up to Celtic park all dressed up ready to show off to your rivals with the ultimate girfuy and you see all the celtic fans are wearing the same clothes. Rangers fans get mad and start singing You have no style of your own. Celtic get embarrassed. Someone in the Rangers end does an outrageous dance move that upsets Celtic. Celtic fans then think there's only 800 of them even if they are better dancers. Next thing you know 50k celtic fans are serving 800 Rangers fans and a riot occurs.

There are several varients in that example which make an easy safety concern case
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I’ve said this before but I think one of the first and most logical steps towards healing the sectarian rift between the two clubs is, at the beginning of every OF game, the two team captains exchange a long and tender French kiss for both sets of fans to consider and enjoy.

posted on 28/12/23

Or one set anyway.

posted on 28/12/23

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 36 minutes ago
Where on earth is this notion coming from that Celtic have to explain to anyone (let alone Rangers or their fans) as to what their “safety concerns” are that mean they’ll offer no tickets?

Celtic don’t have to explain to anybody at all other than give notice to the authorities of their decision.

Call it pettiness or whatever anyone likes. I’m sure Celtic or their fans don’t give a flying fwck.

Since the last fixture at Ibrox there was this mental idea that because Rangers offered Celtic tickets, then Celtic must or be forced to reciprocate. Or else.

Or else what? The idea was utterly laughable in the first place.

So now we are where we are. With 800 fans it’s pretty pointless and may as well be zero as far as most fans are concerned. And if this latest “move” gets the clubs round the table then that’s all good with me and I’m sure most fans.

If not, then so be it. I suppose that puts the ball equally in both courts to make things change. It certainly won’t be in Celtic’s. They’ve made their position very clear and the idea that they will relent come the next game is a joke. If anything, I expect Rangers will just go toe to toe and not bother offering Celtic any for the next fixture either.
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how on earth can you fix or try to tackle a safety concern if the club dont actually disclose what the concern is!!

Why is that something you would want to keep to yourself anyway especially if it paints your stance in better light?

the safety concern thing was in regards to celtic accepting the number of tickets rangers are offering not the other way about. we have no concerns we want the tickets, we want to give you the tickets for the game in line with the rules for the league. Celtic are the ones knocking back our tickets, as things stand Celtic havent given any reason for not offering Rangers any tickets. And the SPFL have actually stated that you are in the wrong in dong so.

posted on 28/12/23

Players definitely kiss in the dressing rooms

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