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comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 47 seconds ago
The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen.

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Not very old then, are you?
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Oh I’m sorry, is this a competition? Can you tell me where more than 245 people, 70% of which are women and children, are being murdered on a daily basis, over a 3 month period?
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1. You’re relying on Hamas figures
2. Your initial statement which I queried and quoted, is ridiculous.


I shouldn’t even have to answer that stupid question either.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides

Have a read through that dumb4ss

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Ok, sorry, let me reword to viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen SINCE THE 90s

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 47 seconds ago
The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen.

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Not very old then, are you?
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Oh I’m sorry, is this a competition? Can you tell me where more than 245 people, 70% of which are women and children, are being murdered on a daily basis, over a 3 month period?
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Without wishing to diminish the horror of what's happening in Gaza, you heard of the Holocaust, aye? 6 million in a 4 year period.
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Were you around for WW2 😳 I assume most people on here to be in their 20s-40s not 70s

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 24 minutes ago
For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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Where are the stats on that? I thought that there were a small number of Jews in the World and most trafficking happened in the Asia and Pacific region? Can you elaborate.

No stats just speculating

Speculation is usually based on some sort of reasoned framework involving numbers. No numbers, no reasoning.

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 47 seconds ago
The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen.

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Not very old then, are you?
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Oh I’m sorry, is this a competition? Can you tell me where more than 245 people, 70% of which are women and children, are being murdered on a daily basis, over a 3 month period?
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Without wishing to diminish the horror of what's happening in Gaza, you heard of the Holocaust, aye? 6 million in a 4 year period.
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Were you around for WW2 😳 I assume most people on here to be in their 20s-40s not 70s
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Ah, didn't realise we all needed to be around for something to count in history. Gotcha. You're sounding a bit like Trump, mate ... Every time he opens his gob it's about something he claims is the greatest or worst EVER in history. I'll leave it there.

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
RR
1. Like I said, how long can can he hide behind the excuse of just taking orders?

2. To simply, you are justifying Biden’s (in)actions because Trump is the alternative.

3. How many times are you going to bring this up? Get over yourself

The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen.

I might ask you why you are nowhere near as worked up as you are re Ukraine? You and so many others on here
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I'm not justifying Biden's inaction. I've explicitly denounced it. It's just I'm also pointing out that your framing of it is strangely naive.

How on earth would you know whether I'm worked up about the horrific and criminal slaughter of innocent Palestinians? It's a moral catastrophe, which we bear indirect responsibility for as UK citizens.

I've spoken on this forum more often about Russia/Ukraine not because I consider it ethically more important, but because I have extensive background in that region (lived in Russia, speak the language, have a PhD in the subject, and have many Russian and Ukrainian friends), which means I have more knowledge to share and, yes, it's more personal to me because I have walked on streets that look exactly like the ones now strewn with corpses.

However, I try to apply the consistent ethical principles and I'm outraged by any murder of civilians by a colonial power. I'm disgusted and outraged by Israel's actions in Gaza, which is a radicalisation of decades of brutality, dispossession and humiliation. And I'm disgusted by our country's selective support for some victims over others. So, no, you are wrong to infer that I have been inconsistent. Meanwhile, you say:

"The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen."

Is it fair to conclude that you feel indiscriminate mass murder isn't worth getting worked up about, as long as it's practised in moderation?

As for your user name and me getting over myself, given your feelings about the situation in Gaza, ask yourself how you'd react to someone with a user name that worked Benjamin Netanyahu's name into a football pun. Would you imagine that they felt disgust at the slaughter of Palestinian children, or would you guess they probably felt it was not on bigger enough a scale to really matter?

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 47 seconds ago
The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen.

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Not very old then, are you?
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Oh I’m sorry, is this a competition? Can you tell me where more than 245 people, 70% of which are women and children, are being murdered on a daily basis, over a 3 month period?
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Without wishing to diminish the horror of what's happening in Gaza, you heard of the Holocaust, aye? 6 million in a 4 year period.
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Were you around for WW2 😳 I assume most people on here to be in their 20s-40s not 70s
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Ah, didn't realise we all needed to be around for something to count in history. Gotcha. You're sounding a bit like Trump, mate ... Every time he opens his gob it's about something he claims is the greatest or worst EVER in history. I'll leave it there.
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Read back through the comments you moron. He asked me how old I was, then you bring up World War 2. Think before you speak

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 29 minutes ago
For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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You've come out with a lot of crаp over the years, but I didn't have you down as a spouter of anti-Semitic blood libel world-controlling conspiracy crаp.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 29 minutes ago
For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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You've come out with a lot of crаp over the years, but I didn't have you down as a spouter of anti-Semitic blood libel world-controlling conspiracy crаp.
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At least he’s outing himself for what he is.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 29 minutes ago
For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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You've come out with a lot of crаp over the years, but I didn't have you down as a spouter of anti-Semitic blood libel world-controlling conspiracy crаp.
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Anti-Zionism and anti-semitism are 2 different things and it’s very annoying that people don’t know that

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 47 seconds ago
The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen.

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Not very old then, are you?
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Oh I’m sorry, is this a competition? Can you tell me where more than 245 people, 70% of which are women and children, are being murdered on a daily basis, over a 3 month period?
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Without wishing to diminish the horror of what's happening in Gaza, you heard of the Holocaust, aye? 6 million in a 4 year period.
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Were you around for WW2 😳 I assume most people on here to be in their 20s-40s not 70s
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Ah, didn't realise we all needed to be around for something to count in history. Gotcha. You're sounding a bit like Trump, mate ... Every time he opens his gob it's about something he claims is the greatest or worst EVER in history. I'll leave it there.
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Read back through the comments you moron. He asked me how old I was, then you bring up World War 2. Think before you speak
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Irony alert.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 29 minutes ago
For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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You've come out with a lot of crаp over the years, but I didn't have you down as a spouter of anti-Semitic blood libel world-controlling conspiracy crаp.
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At least he’s outing himself for what he is.
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It's quite possibly the most extremely unhinged opinion I've seen on this website, which is quite a statement.

RR I genuinely wouldn’t care if somebody used Netanyahu, Biden or any other war criminal’s name as a pun. It’s just a football forum at the end of the day, no harm is intended

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)

For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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You've come out with a lot of crаp over the years, but I didn't have you down as a spouter of anti-Semitic blood libel world-controlling conspiracy crаp.
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Anti-Zionism and anti-semitism are 2 different things and it’s very annoying that people don’t know that
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What's Jeffrey Epstein got to do with Zionism?

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 29 minutes ago
For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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You've come out with a lot of crаp over the years, but I didn't have you down as a spouter of anti-Semitic blood libel world-controlling conspiracy crаp.
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Anti-Zionism and anti-semitism are 2 different things and it’s very annoying that people don’t know that
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Yes, anti-Zionism is opposition to Israeli expansionist policies at the expense of Palestinians. Anti-Semitism is the hatred and demonisation of Jews, often characterised by use of tropes about their ability to integrate into and manipulate international elites, to exert remarkable influence over world affairs, and involvement in abuse of Christian children. Repeating those tropes but saying 'Zionists' instead of 'Jews' doesn't shift what you're doing out of the anti-Semitism category.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 29 minutes ago
For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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You've come out with a lot of crаp over the years, but I didn't have you down as a spouter of anti-Semitic blood libel world-controlling conspiracy crаp.
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Anti-Zionism and anti-semitism are 2 different things and it’s very annoying that people don’t know that
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Yes, anti-Zionism is opposition to Israeli expansionist policies at the expense of Palestinians. Anti-Semitism is the hatred and demonisation of Jews, often characterised by use of tropes about their ability to integrate into and manipulate international elites, to exert remarkable influence over world affairs, and involvement in abuse of Christian children. Repeating those tropes but saying 'Zionists' instead of 'Jews' doesn't shift what you're doing out of the anti-Semitism category.
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It’s amazing how you can read words knowing their definition, and then tell me what I think they mean and how I am using them, and just state it all as fact.

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 47 seconds ago
The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen.

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Not very old then, are you?
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Oh I’m sorry, is this a competition? Can you tell me where more than 245 people, 70% of which are women and children, are being murdered on a daily basis, over a 3 month period?
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Without wishing to diminish the horror of what's happening in Gaza, you heard of the Holocaust, aye? 6 million in a 4 year period.
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So Palestinians pay for European war crimes?

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 47 seconds ago
The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen.

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Not very old then, are you?
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Oh I’m sorry, is this a competition? Can you tell me where more than 245 people, 70% of which are women and children, are being murdered on a daily basis, over a 3 month period?
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Without wishing to diminish the horror of what's happening in Gaza, you heard of the Holocaust, aye? 6 million in a 4 year period.
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So Palestinians pay for European war crimes?
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???

Not the point I was making at all, mate. Just responding to Vlad's nonsense stats, nothing more.

What stat nonsense?

comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)

For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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You've come out with a lot of crаp over the years, but I didn't have you down as a spouter of anti-Semitic blood libel world-controlling conspiracy crаp.
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Anti-Zionism and anti-semitism are 2 different things and it’s very annoying that people don’t know that
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What's Jeffrey Epstein got to do with Zionism?
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comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)

For every Jeffrey Epstein that gets caught, there’s probably another 100 Zionist’s out there trafficking and blackmailing freely. It’s not that wild to say Isreal owns America
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You've come out with a lot of crаp over the years, but I didn't have you down as a spouter of anti-Semitic blood libel world-controlling conspiracy crаp.
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Anti-Zionism and anti-semitism are 2 different things and it’s very annoying that people don’t know that
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What's Jeffrey Epstein got to do with Zionism?
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One of his closest associates, Alan Dershowitz is a Zionist EXTREMIST. Maxwell’s father was an alleged Mossad agent. Go figure.

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 57 seconds ago

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What's Jeffrey Epstein got to do with Zionism?
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One of his closest associates, Alan Dershowitz is a Zionist EXTREMIST. Maxwell’s father was an alleged Mossad agent. Go figure.
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So basically not a well know Zionist, just a well known pedo/traffiker who happens to be a Jew.

No, I mean a well known Zionist. He is a Zionist activist on X and other platforms. Why don’t you say what you are trying to say you fecking coward

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 47 seconds ago
The reason I am worked up is because the viciousness and indiscriminate mass murder is far greater than anything we have ever seen.

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Not very old then, are you?
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Oh I’m sorry, is this a competition? Can you tell me where more than 245 people, 70% of which are women and children, are being murdered on a daily basis, over a 3 month period?
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Without wishing to diminish the horror of what's happening in Gaza, you heard of the Holocaust, aye? 6 million in a 4 year period.
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So Palestinians pay for European war crimes?
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???

Not the point I was making at all, mate. Just responding to Vlad's nonsense stats, nothing more.
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No. But it really is the root cause.

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 0 seconds ago
No, I mean a well known Zionist. He is a Zionist activist on X and other platforms. Why don’t you say what you are trying to say you fecking coward
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Esptein is dead, he's not on X. Nor a well known Zionist. Why are you suggesting he's a Zionist trafficker?