What do you mean withdraw support?
Sending billions of dollars of military aid is not support, it’s fecking overkill. And calling for a ceasefire doesn’t mean they have turned on Israelis
I read that the US recently approved on a $10b injection of military support to Israel. Up until Oct 7th, the US were giving $4b in military support. What the feck do they need a 150% increase in military for? Oh yea, to relentlessly bomb innocent civilians.
I haven’t verified those numbers but if that’s true it’s a fecking joke and I can’t for the life of me understand how American citizens themselves can agree with all this money leaving their country when so many parts of America have effectively turned into shanty towns
He has called for a Ceasfire in previous fighting in Gaza, early on in his tenure. He's certainly capable of it.
What do you think the difference is this time and why he's sending military aid? Do you think it's overkill if the whole point of it is to show strength to avoid escalation to a wider war and more suffering?
Why is it such a simple situation for you?
Yes I am aware he is capable of calling for a ceasefire. Why do you think I’m giving him so much fecking shiiit? Because he won’t.
Why is it a simple situation? Sorry for being humane but when one option leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and the other leads to a potential end of bloodshed, why wouldn’t it be simple?
Indeed it would be incredibly simple if the person a football forum says do this and everyone follows and there's a potential end to bloodshed. The rest of the Middle East falls in line with this plan and some agreements are drawn up and everyone goes away living in peace and harmony
Why don't you redirect your anger into something constructive, that's a lot simpler.
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sorry for being humane but when one option leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and the other leads to a potential end of bloodshed, why wouldn’t it be simple?
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The other leads to tens of millions more deaths potentially. It's just in your simplified view that all these other countries in the Middle East are good actors that don't complicate the situation for some odd reason.
What is more constructive than saving innocent lives?
I have boycotted over 20 companies, sold my shares in Apple, Amazon, Google, donated thousands of euros in aid, go to at least one protest a week, I’ve signed countless pledges and petitions against Israel’s apartheid.
What have you done? Repeatedly complained that somebody doesn’t like innocent civilians dying.
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sorry for being humane but when one option leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and the other leads to a potential end of bloodshed, why wouldn’t it be simple?
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The other leads to tens of millions more deaths potentially. It's just in your simplified view that all these other countries in the Middle East are good actors that don't complicate the situation for some odd reason.
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Yea never said or insinuated anything like that.
Tell me you are an Islamophobe without telling me you are an Islamophobe.
Repeatedly complained that somebody doesn’t like innocent civilians dying.I
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Haven't done that at all.
Just find it odd that you think you're on here saving lives instead of just perpetuating your anger.
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sorry for being humane but when one option leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and the other leads to a potential end of bloodshed, why wouldn’t it be simple?
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The other leads to tens of millions more deaths potentially. It's just in your simplified view that all these other countries in the Middle East are good actors that don't complicate the situation for some odd reason.
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Yea never said or insinuated anything like that.
Tell me you are an Islamophobe without telling me you are an Islamophobe.
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Are all Countries in the middle east good actors that are supportive of peace then? Is it Islamaphobic to suggest otherwise?
I never said I was saving lives, another lie, you can’t help yourself
It’s Islamophobic to suggest that if Israeli’s stop bombing innocent civilians would leave to tens of millions of deaths at the hands of Middle Eastern countries, yes. Extremely Islamophobic
I can’t for the life of me understand how American citizens themselves can agree with all this money leaving their country when so many parts of America have effectively turned into shanty towns
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Maybe you should be addressing this to some American forum. I don't know how many US citizens post on the JA utd board
Nah, politics are always discussed on here.
Just because it’s a political topic you don’t want to know about doesn’t mean I’m not gonna talk about it
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s Islamophobic to suggest that if Israeli’s stop bombing innocent civilians would leave to tens of millions of deaths at the hands of Middle Eastern countries, yes. Extremely Islamophobic
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Not all Middle Eastern countries involved in those deaths would be Islamic ones, therefore it can't be Islamophobic to suggest so.
Oh yes I’m aware. We all know how the IDF likes to ‘defend’ themselves
Great, now you've agreed with me that the situation isn't that simple. Progress at least.
But yes you are still clearly an Islamophobe because of course in your mind, the Middle Eastern countries are the aggressors and not the people who have illegally occupied their land
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Nah, politics are always discussed on here.
Just because it’s a political topic you don’t want to know about doesn’t mean I’m not gonna talk about it
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Fair enough
Why don't you ask Admin to multiboard your Biden concerns
I really don’t think admins want to multi board this thread
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 4 seconds ago
I really don’t think admins want to multi board this thread
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Why wouldn't he
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 11 seconds ago
But yes you are still clearly an Islamophobe because of course in your mind, the Middle Eastern countries are the aggressors and not the people who have illegally occupied their land
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In my mind there is a huge amount of tension in a region where people have a lot of weapons and are ready and willing to use them.
The muddying of the waters by bringing religion into it and then simplifying this into a good and bad hero and villian argument where you're one of the good guys is your sort of thing, not mine
A lot of complex factors.
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posted on 9/1/24
What do you mean withdraw support?
Sending billions of dollars of military aid is not support, it’s fecking overkill. And calling for a ceasefire doesn’t mean they have turned on Israelis
posted on 9/1/24
I read that the US recently approved on a $10b injection of military support to Israel. Up until Oct 7th, the US were giving $4b in military support. What the feck do they need a 150% increase in military for? Oh yea, to relentlessly bomb innocent civilians.
I haven’t verified those numbers but if that’s true it’s a fecking joke and I can’t for the life of me understand how American citizens themselves can agree with all this money leaving their country when so many parts of America have effectively turned into shanty towns
posted on 9/1/24
He has called for a Ceasfire in previous fighting in Gaza, early on in his tenure. He's certainly capable of it.
What do you think the difference is this time and why he's sending military aid? Do you think it's overkill if the whole point of it is to show strength to avoid escalation to a wider war and more suffering?
Why is it such a simple situation for you?
posted on 9/1/24
Yes I am aware he is capable of calling for a ceasefire. Why do you think I’m giving him so much fecking shiiit? Because he won’t.
Why is it a simple situation? Sorry for being humane but when one option leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and the other leads to a potential end of bloodshed, why wouldn’t it be simple?
posted on 9/1/24
Indeed it would be incredibly simple if the person a football forum says do this and everyone follows and there's a potential end to bloodshed. The rest of the Middle East falls in line with this plan and some agreements are drawn up and everyone goes away living in peace and harmony
Why don't you redirect your anger into something constructive, that's a lot simpler.
posted on 9/1/24
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sorry for being humane but when one option leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and the other leads to a potential end of bloodshed, why wouldn’t it be simple?
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The other leads to tens of millions more deaths potentially. It's just in your simplified view that all these other countries in the Middle East are good actors that don't complicate the situation for some odd reason.
posted on 9/1/24
What is more constructive than saving innocent lives?
I have boycotted over 20 companies, sold my shares in Apple, Amazon, Google, donated thousands of euros in aid, go to at least one protest a week, I’ve signed countless pledges and petitions against Israel’s apartheid.
What have you done? Repeatedly complained that somebody doesn’t like innocent civilians dying.
posted on 9/1/24
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sorry for being humane but when one option leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and the other leads to a potential end of bloodshed, why wouldn’t it be simple?
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The other leads to tens of millions more deaths potentially. It's just in your simplified view that all these other countries in the Middle East are good actors that don't complicate the situation for some odd reason.
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Yea never said or insinuated anything like that.
Tell me you are an Islamophobe without telling me you are an Islamophobe.
posted on 9/1/24
Repeatedly complained that somebody doesn’t like innocent civilians dying.I
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Haven't done that at all.
Just find it odd that you think you're on here saving lives instead of just perpetuating your anger.
posted on 9/1/24
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sorry for being humane but when one option leads to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and the other leads to a potential end of bloodshed, why wouldn’t it be simple?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The other leads to tens of millions more deaths potentially. It's just in your simplified view that all these other countries in the Middle East are good actors that don't complicate the situation for some odd reason.
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Yea never said or insinuated anything like that.
Tell me you are an Islamophobe without telling me you are an Islamophobe.
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Are all Countries in the middle east good actors that are supportive of peace then? Is it Islamaphobic to suggest otherwise?
posted on 9/1/24
I never said I was saving lives, another lie, you can’t help yourself
posted on 9/1/24
It’s Islamophobic to suggest that if Israeli’s stop bombing innocent civilians would leave to tens of millions of deaths at the hands of Middle Eastern countries, yes. Extremely Islamophobic
posted on 9/1/24
I can’t for the life of me understand how American citizens themselves can agree with all this money leaving their country when so many parts of America have effectively turned into shanty towns
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Maybe you should be addressing this to some American forum. I don't know how many US citizens post on the JA utd board
posted on 9/1/24
Nah, politics are always discussed on here.
Just because it’s a political topic you don’t want to know about doesn’t mean I’m not gonna talk about it
posted on 9/1/24
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s Islamophobic to suggest that if Israeli’s stop bombing innocent civilians would leave to tens of millions of deaths at the hands of Middle Eastern countries, yes. Extremely Islamophobic
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Not all Middle Eastern countries involved in those deaths would be Islamic ones, therefore it can't be Islamophobic to suggest so.
posted on 9/1/24
Oh yes I’m aware. We all know how the IDF likes to ‘defend’ themselves
posted on 9/1/24
Great, now you've agreed with me that the situation isn't that simple. Progress at least.
posted on 9/1/24
But yes you are still clearly an Islamophobe because of course in your mind, the Middle Eastern countries are the aggressors and not the people who have illegally occupied their land
posted on 9/1/24
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Nah, politics are always discussed on here.
Just because it’s a political topic you don’t want to know about doesn’t mean I’m not gonna talk about it
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Fair enough
Why don't you ask Admin to multiboard your Biden concerns
posted on 9/1/24
I really don’t think admins want to multi board this thread
posted on 9/1/24
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 4 seconds ago
I really don’t think admins want to multi board this thread
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Why wouldn't he
posted on 9/1/24
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 11 seconds ago
But yes you are still clearly an Islamophobe because of course in your mind, the Middle Eastern countries are the aggressors and not the people who have illegally occupied their land
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In my mind there is a huge amount of tension in a region where people have a lot of weapons and are ready and willing to use them.
The muddying of the waters by bringing religion into it and then simplifying this into a good and bad hero and villian argument where you're one of the good guys is your sort of thing, not mine
posted on 9/1/24
Tensions fuelled by………….
posted on 9/1/24
A lot of complex factors.
posted on 9/1/24
Keep going
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