comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
BigAnge and Klopp not big fans of this idea either. Jusayin
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It must be a great idea if klopp doesn't like it
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTlON (U23140)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
BigAnge and Klopp not big fans of this idea either. Jusayin
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It must be a great idea if klopp doesn't like it
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https://images.app.goo.gl/sWY9kyibWQeSN73B7
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Time wasting is easy to solve. If you don't get the ball back in play in a certain amount of time the decision gets reversed - so if a keeper wastes time on a goalkick it becomes a corner.
Plus - in terms of a sin bin - if the clock is stopped in the game then it is stopped in the sin bin. So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on.
Will be interesting if a keeper is sin binned. Do you chuck a 'keeper on from the bench for an outfield player or put an outfield player in goal for 10 minutes? Should the first option even be allowed?
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So let's say Odegaard fouls VVD on the edge of the Liverpool box. It's a Liverpool free kick. Allison is gonna take it but wastes time. Does it turn into an Arsenal free kick right at the edge of Liverpool's box? Odegaard scores the free kick which was initially heading for the corner flag but goes in thanks to a wicked deflection. I can see the scenes in my imagination.
What if the crowd hides the ball and the ball boys have all suddenly disappeared, and yet you have to get the ball in play within a fixed period or the decision is reversed?
In order for this to have any chance of working they'd have to introduce clock stopping when the ball is out of play.
I mean, this makes no sense either:
"So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on."
Since when have we stopped the clock for injuries? This kind of rule changing to try and make a bad idea work is the same slippery slope we've been on with var. It's madness I tell ye.
Frigging get a hobby or something.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 day, 13 hours ago
Time wasting is easy to solve. If you don't get the ball back in play in a certain amount of time the decision gets reversed - so if a keeper wastes time on a goalkick it becomes a corner.
Plus - in terms of a sin bin - if the clock is stopped in the game then it is stopped in the sin bin. So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on.
Will be interesting if a keeper is sin binned. Do you chuck a 'keeper on from the bench for an outfield player or put an outfield player in goal for 10 minutes? Should the first option even be allowed?
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This is one of the worst posts I’ve ever read on this forum when someone thinks they’re making a good point.
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 12 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 40 minutes ago
Maybe it should just go on the xG of the opportunity when the foul took place. As soon as you accumulate the equivalent to, let's say, 75% the xG of a penalty, then you get a penalty.
The reason you get it before you've accumulated the full xG equivalent of a penalty is that there has to be some kind of deterrent for the defender fouling his opponent.
This is guaranteed to be a huge success in Sunday League.
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Edin will be in heaven reading this.
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Someone explain
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Edin has a Hafi element to him
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Time wasting is easy to solve. If you don't get the ball back in play in a certain amount of time the decision gets reversed - so if a keeper wastes time on a goalkick it becomes a corner.
Plus - in terms of a sin bin - if the clock is stopped in the game then it is stopped in the sin bin. So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on.
Will be interesting if a keeper is sin binned. Do you chuck a 'keeper on from the bench for an outfield player or put an outfield player in goal for 10 minutes? Should the first option even be allowed?
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So let's say Odegaard fouls VVD on the edge of the Liverpool box. It's a Liverpool free kick. Allison is gonna take it but wastes time. Does it turn into an Arsenal free kick right at the edge of Liverpool's box? Odegaard scores the free kick which was initially heading for the corner flag but goes in thanks to a wicked deflection. I can see the scenes in my imagination.
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I bet you can. Seething at the mere thought.
So let's say Odegaard fouls VVD on the edge of the Liverpool box. It's a Liverpool free kick. Allison is gonna take it but wastes time. Does it turn into an Arsenal free kick right at the edge of Liverpool's box? Odegaard scores the free kick which was initially heading for the corner flag but goes in thanks to a wicked deflection. I can see the scenes in my imagination.
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Yes, of course. But the likelihood of Alisson wasting time would be very low as he would know the consequence would be Arsenal having a dangerous free kick.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 day, 13 hours ago
Time wasting is easy to solve. If you don't get the ball back in play in a certain amount of time the decision gets reversed - so if a keeper wastes time on a goalkick it becomes a corner.
Plus - in terms of a sin bin - if the clock is stopped in the game then it is stopped in the sin bin. So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on.
Will be interesting if a keeper is sin binned. Do you chuck a 'keeper on from the bench for an outfield player or put an outfield player in goal for 10 minutes? Should the first option even be allowed?
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This is one of the worst posts I’ve ever read on this forum when someone thinks they’re making a good point.
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How is it?😂😂
As if you’ll ever understand or admit it, DJ.
Haha, you don't have a point do you Whiney.
Time wasting - currently punished by a yellow that many players already are happy to take as it is usually inconsequential
Sin bin - if a player is down and treated the ref stops the game and the time is played in what is known as "added time".
Keeper sin binned, not sure why this isn't a valid question. Are you allowed to bring on a sub keeper or are you forced to play an outfield player in goal for the 10 minutes. It would be interesting to see. If you brought on a sub keeper you would then have to make a second sub 10 minutes later or play one of the keepers outfield.
I think that what DJ might mean is that the 10 minutes in the sin bin should be effective playing time.
Otherwise, the team that's down a man will just try to wind down the 10 minutes feigning injuries and time-wasting by any other means.
Not sure, but that would seem to make sense.
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 59 minutes ago
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Good to hear a few managers – Ange, Klopp, Howe – talking sense on this issue.
Postecoglou in particular makes some good points, e.g. why are we adding clutter and confusion and ways to break up play and slow the game down, and why are we falling over ourselves to make up needless new rules or overcomplicate the ones we have.
And by 'we', I of course mean the shadowy committee tasked with ruining football for their own mysterious and nefarious ends.
Moaning about slowing down the game again misses the point that if this works, it’s a deterrent.
Something has to be done about the woeful lack of respect towards officials and from the games I’ve seen, this really does stamp it out far better than a caution ever would.
comment by Jalisco Red - Gimme Hope Onana (U4195)
posted 4 minutes ago
Good to hear a few managers – Ange, Klopp, Howe – talking sense on this issue.
Postecoglou in particular makes some good points, e.g. why are we adding clutter and confusion and ways to break up play and slow the game down, and why are we falling over ourselves to make up needless new rules or overcomplicate the ones we have.
And by 'we', I of course mean the shadowy committee tasked with ruining football for their own mysterious and nefarious ends.
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For me it smacks of appeasing the telly companies and focus groups they've consulted to make the game more dramatic for the casual telly viewer.
I reckon there will be more "celebs" in football in coming years. Like a lower league side signing a ticking tock star to boost exposure of their club and get more fans in. Like if Lewis Capaldi played for Stenhousemuir they'd get thousands more through the gate every week and they'd be all over instant gram all the time. Maybe it won't go that extreme but it will only take one to make it acceptable and teams start doing it.
Who's an English celeb? Like Oliver Murs playing for Bolton or something
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 9 minutes ago
I reckon there will be more "celebs" in football in coming years. Like a lower league side signing a ticking tock star to boost exposure of their club and get more fans in. Like if Lewis Capaldi played for Stenhousemuir they'd get thousands more through the gate every week and they'd be all over instant gram all the time. Maybe it won't go that extreme but it will only take one to make it acceptable and teams start doing it.
Who's an English celeb? Like Oliver Murs playing for Bolton or something
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Olly Murs is a Red
comment by Jalisco Red - Gimme Hope Onana (U4195)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 9 minutes ago
I reckon there will be more "celebs" in football in coming years. Like a lower league side signing a ticking tock star to boost exposure of their club and get more fans in. Like if Lewis Capaldi played for Stenhousemuir they'd get thousands more through the gate every week and they'd be all over instant gram all the time. Maybe it won't go that extreme but it will only take one to make it acceptable and teams start doing it.
Who's an English celeb? Like Oliver Murs playing for Bolton or something
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Olly Murs is a Red
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He's a priiiick. Cockney twaaat claims his granddad's dog used to support United so he goes on about that instead of how he's just a glory hunter like the rest of us.
He’s not a cockney, he doesn’t support Spurs.
Pretty sure Olly Murs is from Essex, so almost certainly a Man Utd fan.
Then we will get more of the richer celebs owning clubs and using them for their own gains. Like Elon Musk owning Chelsea. And then doing things for attention like insisting that his team will not be wearing rainbow armbands like the other teams and that he supports the fans signing racist chants due to free speech and we will go even further into the nonsense of politics in football and they will say that it's not politics it's just free speech and then the same people will complain about a rainbow banner that it's politics in football and I'll have jumped off a cliff by then so it's all fine.
Blue cards
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posted on 9/2/24
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
BigAnge and Klopp not big fans of this idea either. Jusayin
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It must be a great idea if klopp doesn't like it
posted on 9/2/24
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTlON (U23140)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
BigAnge and Klopp not big fans of this idea either. Jusayin
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It must be a great idea if klopp doesn't like it
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https://images.app.goo.gl/sWY9kyibWQeSN73B7
posted on 10/2/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Time wasting is easy to solve. If you don't get the ball back in play in a certain amount of time the decision gets reversed - so if a keeper wastes time on a goalkick it becomes a corner.
Plus - in terms of a sin bin - if the clock is stopped in the game then it is stopped in the sin bin. So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on.
Will be interesting if a keeper is sin binned. Do you chuck a 'keeper on from the bench for an outfield player or put an outfield player in goal for 10 minutes? Should the first option even be allowed?
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So let's say Odegaard fouls VVD on the edge of the Liverpool box. It's a Liverpool free kick. Allison is gonna take it but wastes time. Does it turn into an Arsenal free kick right at the edge of Liverpool's box? Odegaard scores the free kick which was initially heading for the corner flag but goes in thanks to a wicked deflection. I can see the scenes in my imagination.
What if the crowd hides the ball and the ball boys have all suddenly disappeared, and yet you have to get the ball in play within a fixed period or the decision is reversed?
In order for this to have any chance of working they'd have to introduce clock stopping when the ball is out of play.
posted on 10/2/24
I mean, this makes no sense either:
"So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on."
Since when have we stopped the clock for injuries? This kind of rule changing to try and make a bad idea work is the same slippery slope we've been on with var. It's madness I tell ye.
Frigging get a hobby or something.
posted on 10/2/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 day, 13 hours ago
Time wasting is easy to solve. If you don't get the ball back in play in a certain amount of time the decision gets reversed - so if a keeper wastes time on a goalkick it becomes a corner.
Plus - in terms of a sin bin - if the clock is stopped in the game then it is stopped in the sin bin. So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on.
Will be interesting if a keeper is sin binned. Do you chuck a 'keeper on from the bench for an outfield player or put an outfield player in goal for 10 minutes? Should the first option even be allowed?
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This is one of the worst posts I’ve ever read on this forum when someone thinks they’re making a good point.
posted on 10/2/24
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 12 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 40 minutes ago
Maybe it should just go on the xG of the opportunity when the foul took place. As soon as you accumulate the equivalent to, let's say, 75% the xG of a penalty, then you get a penalty.
The reason you get it before you've accumulated the full xG equivalent of a penalty is that there has to be some kind of deterrent for the defender fouling his opponent.
This is guaranteed to be a huge success in Sunday League.
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Edin will be in heaven reading this.
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Someone explain
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Edin has a Hafi element to him
posted on 10/2/24
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Time wasting is easy to solve. If you don't get the ball back in play in a certain amount of time the decision gets reversed - so if a keeper wastes time on a goalkick it becomes a corner.
Plus - in terms of a sin bin - if the clock is stopped in the game then it is stopped in the sin bin. So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on.
Will be interesting if a keeper is sin binned. Do you chuck a 'keeper on from the bench for an outfield player or put an outfield player in goal for 10 minutes? Should the first option even be allowed?
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So let's say Odegaard fouls VVD on the edge of the Liverpool box. It's a Liverpool free kick. Allison is gonna take it but wastes time. Does it turn into an Arsenal free kick right at the edge of Liverpool's box? Odegaard scores the free kick which was initially heading for the corner flag but goes in thanks to a wicked deflection. I can see the scenes in my imagination.
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I bet you can. Seething at the mere thought.
posted on 10/2/24
posted on 10/2/24
So let's say Odegaard fouls VVD on the edge of the Liverpool box. It's a Liverpool free kick. Allison is gonna take it but wastes time. Does it turn into an Arsenal free kick right at the edge of Liverpool's box? Odegaard scores the free kick which was initially heading for the corner flag but goes in thanks to a wicked deflection. I can see the scenes in my imagination.
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Yes, of course. But the likelihood of Alisson wasting time would be very low as he would know the consequence would be Arsenal having a dangerous free kick.
posted on 10/2/24
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 day, 13 hours ago
Time wasting is easy to solve. If you don't get the ball back in play in a certain amount of time the decision gets reversed - so if a keeper wastes time on a goalkick it becomes a corner.
Plus - in terms of a sin bin - if the clock is stopped in the game then it is stopped in the sin bin. So if a 'keeper goes down holding his head and is treated for 5 minutes of a players sin bin time then that 5 minutes is added back on.
Will be interesting if a keeper is sin binned. Do you chuck a 'keeper on from the bench for an outfield player or put an outfield player in goal for 10 minutes? Should the first option even be allowed?
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This is one of the worst posts I’ve ever read on this forum when someone thinks they’re making a good point.
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How is it?😂😂
posted on 10/2/24
As if you’ll ever understand or admit it, DJ.
posted on 10/2/24
Haha, you don't have a point do you Whiney.
posted on 10/2/24
Yep, that must be it.
posted on 10/2/24
Time wasting - currently punished by a yellow that many players already are happy to take as it is usually inconsequential
Sin bin - if a player is down and treated the ref stops the game and the time is played in what is known as "added time".
Keeper sin binned, not sure why this isn't a valid question. Are you allowed to bring on a sub keeper or are you forced to play an outfield player in goal for the 10 minutes. It would be interesting to see. If you brought on a sub keeper you would then have to make a second sub 10 minutes later or play one of the keepers outfield.
posted on 10/2/24
I think that what DJ might mean is that the 10 minutes in the sin bin should be effective playing time.
Otherwise, the team that's down a man will just try to wind down the 10 minutes feigning injuries and time-wasting by any other means.
Not sure, but that would seem to make sense.
posted on 10/2/24
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 59 minutes ago
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posted on 10/2/24
Good to hear a few managers – Ange, Klopp, Howe – talking sense on this issue.
Postecoglou in particular makes some good points, e.g. why are we adding clutter and confusion and ways to break up play and slow the game down, and why are we falling over ourselves to make up needless new rules or overcomplicate the ones we have.
And by 'we', I of course mean the shadowy committee tasked with ruining football for their own mysterious and nefarious ends.
posted on 10/2/24
Moaning about slowing down the game again misses the point that if this works, it’s a deterrent.
Something has to be done about the woeful lack of respect towards officials and from the games I’ve seen, this really does stamp it out far better than a caution ever would.
posted on 10/2/24
comment by Jalisco Red - Gimme Hope Onana (U4195)
posted 4 minutes ago
Good to hear a few managers – Ange, Klopp, Howe – talking sense on this issue.
Postecoglou in particular makes some good points, e.g. why are we adding clutter and confusion and ways to break up play and slow the game down, and why are we falling over ourselves to make up needless new rules or overcomplicate the ones we have.
And by 'we', I of course mean the shadowy committee tasked with ruining football for their own mysterious and nefarious ends.
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For me it smacks of appeasing the telly companies and focus groups they've consulted to make the game more dramatic for the casual telly viewer.
posted on 10/2/24
I reckon there will be more "celebs" in football in coming years. Like a lower league side signing a ticking tock star to boost exposure of their club and get more fans in. Like if Lewis Capaldi played for Stenhousemuir they'd get thousands more through the gate every week and they'd be all over instant gram all the time. Maybe it won't go that extreme but it will only take one to make it acceptable and teams start doing it.
Who's an English celeb? Like Oliver Murs playing for Bolton or something
posted on 10/2/24
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 9 minutes ago
I reckon there will be more "celebs" in football in coming years. Like a lower league side signing a ticking tock star to boost exposure of their club and get more fans in. Like if Lewis Capaldi played for Stenhousemuir they'd get thousands more through the gate every week and they'd be all over instant gram all the time. Maybe it won't go that extreme but it will only take one to make it acceptable and teams start doing it.
Who's an English celeb? Like Oliver Murs playing for Bolton or something
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Olly Murs is a Red
posted on 10/2/24
comment by Jalisco Red - Gimme Hope Onana (U4195)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 9 minutes ago
I reckon there will be more "celebs" in football in coming years. Like a lower league side signing a ticking tock star to boost exposure of their club and get more fans in. Like if Lewis Capaldi played for Stenhousemuir they'd get thousands more through the gate every week and they'd be all over instant gram all the time. Maybe it won't go that extreme but it will only take one to make it acceptable and teams start doing it.
Who's an English celeb? Like Oliver Murs playing for Bolton or something
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Olly Murs is a Red
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He's a priiiick. Cockney twaaat claims his granddad's dog used to support United so he goes on about that instead of how he's just a glory hunter like the rest of us.
posted on 10/2/24
He’s not a cockney, he doesn’t support Spurs.
posted on 10/2/24
Pretty sure Olly Murs is from Essex, so almost certainly a Man Utd fan.
posted on 10/2/24
Then we will get more of the richer celebs owning clubs and using them for their own gains. Like Elon Musk owning Chelsea. And then doing things for attention like insisting that his team will not be wearing rainbow armbands like the other teams and that he supports the fans signing racist chants due to free speech and we will go even further into the nonsense of politics in football and they will say that it's not politics it's just free speech and then the same people will complain about a rainbow banner that it's politics in football and I'll have jumped off a cliff by then so it's all fine.
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