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As I said, anybody who things Gerrard in midfield was to the detriment of the team doesn't understand football.
Many of the best players throughput history have played seasons out of position to help the team, because they're top players and can. Messi played centrally, Ronaldo played on the right, left, central. Iniesta played deeper, Rooney(who I think was underrated) often played out of position to help the team. There are numerous examples.
Some players were even better in their newly adopted positions than their original, doesn't mean they were to the detriment of the team in their original position. I think TAA will be an example soon. Lahm, Maldini, Kimmich etc.
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Except saying it doesn’t mean you’re right.
Gerrard was moved from a central two man midfield because it made the team stronger. It made the team stronger because for all his qualities, he has weaknesses that were exposed in that role.
If he was one of the best central midfielders ever then he wouldn’t have spent the peak of his career being moved out to the right.
You’re wrong TOOR, and I will enjoy showing it.
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No it made the team stronger as we were lacking goals and had no top right sided player yet. We stuck in a relatively inexperienced defence midfielder in Sissoko next to Alonso and out Gerrard to the right, where rather than play the traditional role of getting to the line and crossing it, he cut inside and played in midfield, in possession. The manager who made the decision has talked about this. Go read it if you don't believe the person trying to educate you.
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You’ll say literally anything.
So, Liverpool moved one of the best central midfielders ever to a different position and signed a new central midfielder in order to improve.
It’s just a brilliantly ridiculous narrative that doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny at all.
We all saw it in the CL final.
Gerrard was a detriment in that role and he was better used elsewhere.
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No. Liverpool already had a central midfielder on the bench but moved Gerrard to the right as were we struggling for goals and brought Sissoko in next to Alonso. Gerrard scored 23. Justified decision? Sissoko got a bad injury and we moved to the Valencia system Benitez had planned, bringing in Mascherano to play Sissoko's role next to Alonso and played Gerrard ahead of them, to great effect behind Torres where again he excelled.
You won't be allowed to rewrote history I'm afraid. At least not on my watch.
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I’ll use what happened to prove you wrong.
Happy to go through season by season. You have nowhere the hide.
A new manager arrived and after seeing what he needed to see, he moved ‘one of the best central midfielders of all time’ out of that position.
Why?
Because actually, he wasn’t one of the best central midfielders of all time and he didn’t have the discipline or the intelligence to play in that role.
I’ve proved it before and I’ll happily prove it again now.
You will never admit it and so you’ll cry and run away.
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Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
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TOOR and Winston... Scholes v Gerrard.... This could be an all timer thread lads
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comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
As I said, anybody who things Gerrard in midfield was to the detriment of the team doesn't understand football.
Many of the best players throughput history have played seasons out of position to help the team, because they're top players and can. Messi played centrally, Ronaldo played on the right, left, central. Iniesta played deeper, Rooney(who I think was underrated) often played out of position to help the team. There are numerous examples.
Some players were even better in their newly adopted positions than their original, doesn't mean they were to the detriment of the team in their original position. I think TAA will be an example soon. Lahm, Maldini, Kimmich etc.
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Except saying it doesn’t mean you’re right.
Gerrard was moved from a central two man midfield because it made the team stronger. It made the team stronger because for all his qualities, he has weaknesses that were exposed in that role.
If he was one of the best central midfielders ever then he wouldn’t have spent the peak of his career being moved out to the right.
You’re wrong TOOR, and I will enjoy showing it.
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No it made the team stronger as we were lacking goals and had no top right sided player yet. We stuck in a relatively inexperienced defence midfielder in Sissoko next to Alonso and out Gerrard to the right, where rather than play the traditional role of getting to the line and crossing it, he cut inside and played in midfield, in possession. The manager who made the decision has talked about this. Go read it if you don't believe the person trying to educate you.
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You’ll say literally anything.
So, Liverpool moved one of the best central midfielders ever to a different position and signed a new central midfielder in order to improve.
It’s just a brilliantly ridiculous narrative that doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny at all.
We all saw it in the CL final.
Gerrard was a detriment in that role and he was better used elsewhere.
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No. Liverpool already had a central midfielder on the bench but moved Gerrard to the right as were we struggling for goals and brought Sissoko in next to Alonso. Gerrard scored 23. Justified decision? Sissoko got a bad injury and we moved to the Valencia system Benitez had planned, bringing in Mascherano to play Sissoko's role next to Alonso and played Gerrard ahead of them, to great effect behind Torres where again he excelled.
You won't be allowed to rewrote history I'm afraid. At least not on my watch.
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I’ll use what happened to prove you wrong.
Happy to go through season by season. You have nowhere the hide.
A new manager arrived and after seeing what he needed to see, he moved ‘one of the best central midfielders of all time’ out of that position.
Why?
Because actually, he wasn’t one of the best central midfielders of all time and he didn’t have the discipline or the intelligence to play in that role.
I’ve proved it before and I’ll happily prove it again now.
You will never admit it and so you’ll cry and run away.
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Why?
For the team. Alonso and Sissoko couldn't play on the right of behind Torres. Gerrard excelled, he saw he was onto a winning formula(relatively speaking) and when Sissoko suffered the bad injury brought in Mascherano.
Not sure why you're sticking to this story you've made up despite numerous people telling you you're wrong, the player himself being outstanding in the role, winning numerous individual awards and the manager who moved him stating his reasons but yes, like you always say but never evidence, you are great at admitting you're wrong.
Didn't have the discipline or intelligence
Passing tick
Shoiting tick
Tackling tick
Pace tick
Heading tick
Leadership tick
Will never work in midfield 😆
TOOR, you’re doing that thing where you convince yourself.
The facts don’t match with what you believe, though.
Liverpool struggled with Gerrard in a two man central midfield.
A decent manager came along, moved Gerrard and played some proper central midfielders instead.
Liverpool did a lot better.
Do tell me what on earth you think qualifies Gerrard as one of the best central midfielders ever, apart from being voted in the team of the year.
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
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Didn't have the discipline or intelligence
Passing tick
Shoiting tick
Tackling tick
Pace tick
Heading tick
Leadership tick
Will never work in midfield 😆
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TOOR’s argument is to write the word tick, as if that proves anything.
The drunk old fool is preparing some all time classic posts tonight.
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
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You’ve missed out half his career you utter moron.
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Incidentally, one of the main reasons Scholes got his breakthrough to regular first team football was based on necessity, due to the Cantona ban. I don't think he even played as advanced in the youth teams, though stand to be corrected on that as I didn't watch youth football back in those days.
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Wasn't Scholes originally put in as an attacker because Fergie thought he was too small to be anywhere else? This is another reason Schole's deserves plaudits as he had to overcome bias too.
Oh Winston I wish I had your energy but yes I'll do that thing you call it and run away.
In the real world I'm not going to repeat myself for days and flog a dead horse. I'll leave that for you.
Scholes was an excellent player and certainly not overrated when he played but underrated for me. He got somewhat overrated when he retired.
Gerrard shouldn't even be in the conversation. Many saw him as the best midfielder of the PL era and yet only got one third in the Balon D'Or.
Torres a weird choice for me. Wasn't rated very highly after leaving Liverpool and whilst at Liverpool banged them in and did the same at a young age for Atletico.
So my pick is Le Tissier who going by this forum at least is overrated.
Good night Winston, and all. Yes yes, I've ran away etc etc. You win etc. Good job.
A wee ps. I'm 39. Not old in most peoples' book and not yet drunk although working on it. I bid you adieu.
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
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You’ve missed out half his career you utter moron.
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I didn't say he played behind the striker for his entire career, you buffoon. I mean, my explicit comments are right here if you can read.
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 12 seconds ago
Oh Winston I wish I had your energy but yes I'll do that thing you call it and run away.
In the real world I'm not going to repeat myself for days and flog a dead horse. I'll leave that for you.
Scholes was an excellent player and certainly not overrated when he played but underrated for me. He got somewhat overrated when he retired.
Gerrard shouldn't even be in the conversation. Many saw him as the best midfielder of the PL era and yet only got one third in the Balon D'Or.
Torres a weird choice for me. Wasn't rated very highly after leaving Liverpool and whilst at Liverpool banged them in and did the same at a young age for Atletico.
So my pick is Le Tissier who going by this forum at least is overrated.
Good night Winston, and all. Yes yes, I've ran away etc etc. You win etc. Good job.
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And there it is.
TOOR deflects to arguing something that hasn’t been said, because he’s comprehensively lost the debate and made a fool of himself in the process.
You’re drunk, you haven’t watched football live enough to have a valid opinion and you will argue absolutely anything if it means you can claim Gerrard is the best player ever apart from Messi and Ronaldo.
It’s really quite fun watching you squirm and then eventually lose.
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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02/03
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
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You’ve missed out half his career you utter moron.
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I didn't say he played behind the striker for his entire career, you buffoon.I mean, my explicit comments are right here if you can read.
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I’d forgotten how stupid you are.
It’s simply not worth debating with you.
Have a read up and see if you can realise why what you’ve said is truly moronic. Good luck.
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comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
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Incidentally, one of the main reasons Scholes got his breakthrough to regular first team football was based on necessity, due to the Cantona ban. I don't think he even played as advanced in the youth teams, though stand to be corrected on that as I didn't watch youth football back in those days.
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Wasn't Scholes originally put in as an attacker because Fergie thought he was too small to be anywhere else? This is another reason Schole's deserves plaudits as he had to overcome bias too.
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I think there was a lot of talk he could be released due to his physical statute and as a result, he was normally on the bench for the youth sides, who had a lot of talented midfielders.
But I think when he was moved forward, it was more due to lack of options in that area. I think he scored a couple of goals on his debut there in the League Cup, where SAF always played younger players and that probably gave him a platform. But I don't think he'd been regularly selected there in the youth team before hand. Not certain of that though
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posted 1 minute ago
Night Winston.
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You already said that.
Good to see you’re still lurking around.
You lost the debate TOOR. I have seen Gerrard live far more than you and I know Liverpool’s history better than you, clearly,
Call it a night. You’re drunk.
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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02/03
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
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You’ve missed out half his career you utter moron.
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I didn't say he played behind the striker for his entire career, you buffoon.I mean, my explicit comments are right here if you can read.
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I’d forgotten how stupid you are.
It’s simply not worth debating with you.
Have a read up and see if you can realise why what you’ve said is truly moronic. Good luck.
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Read it, and yes, youre still an utter buffoon. Because my comments and time frame are pretty clear and explicit, so no idea why you're rambling about "missed half of his career".
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comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
Night Winston.
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You already said that.
Good to see you’re still lurking around.
You lost the debate TOOR. I have seen Gerrard live far more than you and I know Liverpool’s history better than you, clearly,
Call it a night. You’re drunk.
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Clever baiting Winston but I'm not getting back into it. The debate can't go any further unfortunately. Off to actually get drunk. My lurking has ended for the night.
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Incidentally, one of the main reasons Scholes got his breakthrough to regular first team football was based on necessity, due to the Cantona ban. I don't think he even played as advanced in the youth teams, though stand to be corrected on that as I didn't watch youth football back in those days.
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Wasn't Scholes originally put in as an attacker because Fergie thought he was too small to be anywhere else? This is another reason Schole's deserves plaudits as he had to overcome bias too.
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I think there was a lot of talk he could be released due to his physical statute and as a result, he was normally on the bench for the youth sides, who had a lot of talented midfielders.
But I think when he was moved forward, it was more due to lack of options in that area. I think he scored a couple of goals on his debut there in the League Cup, where SAF always played younger players and that probably gave him a platform. But I don't think he'd been regularly selected there in the youth team before hand. Not certain of that though
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I should add that for SAF to him in that position to begin with, he obviously saw something in him to know he could perform there. But I think it was also due to circumstance in many ways, in that we lacked forward options in reserve and that paved the way for Scholes to get those early opportunities in that position
And whoever asked about the real Ronaldo. Yeah he was phenomenal.
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And whoever asked about the real Ronaldo. Yeah he was phenomenal.
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I do agree I was just trying to create chat that wasn't Scholes vs Gerrard
Mainoo is quite overrated
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comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
Night Winston.
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You already said that.
Good to see you’re still lurking around.
You lost the debate TOOR. I have seen Gerrard live far more than you and I know Liverpool’s history better than you, clearly,
Call it a night. You’re drunk.
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Clever baiting Winston but I'm not getting back into it. The debate can't go any further unfortunately. Off to actually get drunk. My lurking has ended for the night.
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It can’t go any further because you’re wrong and you have no credible reply to my point.
So now you’re just drunk posting silly replies in an attempt to drag it off topic. Which will all be my fault, I’m sure.
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comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
As I said, anybody who things Gerrard in midfield was to the detriment of the team doesn't understand football.
Many of the best players throughput history have played seasons out of position to help the team, because they're top players and can. Messi played centrally, Ronaldo played on the right, left, central. Iniesta played deeper, Rooney(who I think was underrated) often played out of position to help the team. There are numerous examples.
Some players were even better in their newly adopted positions than their original, doesn't mean they were to the detriment of the team in their original position. I think TAA will be an example soon. Lahm, Maldini, Kimmich etc.
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Except saying it doesn’t mean you’re right.
Gerrard was moved from a central two man midfield because it made the team stronger. It made the team stronger because for all his qualities, he has weaknesses that were exposed in that role.
If he was one of the best central midfielders ever then he wouldn’t have spent the peak of his career being moved out to the right.
You’re wrong TOOR, and I will enjoy showing it.
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No it made the team stronger as we were lacking goals and had no top right sided player yet. We stuck in a relatively inexperienced defence midfielder in Sissoko next to Alonso and out Gerrard to the right, where rather than play the traditional role of getting to the line and crossing it, he cut inside and played in midfield, in possession. The manager who made the decision has talked about this. Go read it if you don't believe the person trying to educate you.
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You’ll say literally anything.
So, Liverpool moved one of the best central midfielders ever to a different position and signed a new central midfielder in order to improve.
It’s just a brilliantly ridiculous narrative that doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny at all.
We all saw it in the CL final.
Gerrard was a detriment in that role and he was better used elsewhere.
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No. Liverpool already had a central midfielder on the bench but moved Gerrard to the right as were we struggling for goals and brought Sissoko in next to Alonso. Gerrard scored 23. Justified decision? Sissoko got a bad injury and we moved to the Valencia system Benitez had planned, bringing in Mascherano to play Sissoko's role next to Alonso and played Gerrard ahead of them, to great effect behind Torres where again he excelled.
You won't be allowed to rewrote history I'm afraid. At least not on my watch.
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I’ll use what happened to prove you wrong.
Happy to go through season by season. You have nowhere the hide.
A new manager arrived and after seeing what he needed to see, he moved ‘one of the best central midfielders of all time’ out of that position.
Why?
Because actually, he wasn’t one of the best central midfielders of all time and he didn’t have the discipline or the intelligence to play in that role.
I’ve proved it before and I’ll happily prove it again now.
You will never admit it and so you’ll cry and run away.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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posted on 23/3/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 46 minutes ago
TOOR and Winston... Scholes v Gerrard.... This could be an all timer thread lads
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posted on 23/3/24
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
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comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
As I said, anybody who things Gerrard in midfield was to the detriment of the team doesn't understand football.
Many of the best players throughput history have played seasons out of position to help the team, because they're top players and can. Messi played centrally, Ronaldo played on the right, left, central. Iniesta played deeper, Rooney(who I think was underrated) often played out of position to help the team. There are numerous examples.
Some players were even better in their newly adopted positions than their original, doesn't mean they were to the detriment of the team in their original position. I think TAA will be an example soon. Lahm, Maldini, Kimmich etc.
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Except saying it doesn’t mean you’re right.
Gerrard was moved from a central two man midfield because it made the team stronger. It made the team stronger because for all his qualities, he has weaknesses that were exposed in that role.
If he was one of the best central midfielders ever then he wouldn’t have spent the peak of his career being moved out to the right.
You’re wrong TOOR, and I will enjoy showing it.
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No it made the team stronger as we were lacking goals and had no top right sided player yet. We stuck in a relatively inexperienced defence midfielder in Sissoko next to Alonso and out Gerrard to the right, where rather than play the traditional role of getting to the line and crossing it, he cut inside and played in midfield, in possession. The manager who made the decision has talked about this. Go read it if you don't believe the person trying to educate you.
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You’ll say literally anything.
So, Liverpool moved one of the best central midfielders ever to a different position and signed a new central midfielder in order to improve.
It’s just a brilliantly ridiculous narrative that doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny at all.
We all saw it in the CL final.
Gerrard was a detriment in that role and he was better used elsewhere.
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No. Liverpool already had a central midfielder on the bench but moved Gerrard to the right as were we struggling for goals and brought Sissoko in next to Alonso. Gerrard scored 23. Justified decision? Sissoko got a bad injury and we moved to the Valencia system Benitez had planned, bringing in Mascherano to play Sissoko's role next to Alonso and played Gerrard ahead of them, to great effect behind Torres where again he excelled.
You won't be allowed to rewrote history I'm afraid. At least not on my watch.
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I’ll use what happened to prove you wrong.
Happy to go through season by season. You have nowhere the hide.
A new manager arrived and after seeing what he needed to see, he moved ‘one of the best central midfielders of all time’ out of that position.
Why?
Because actually, he wasn’t one of the best central midfielders of all time and he didn’t have the discipline or the intelligence to play in that role.
I’ve proved it before and I’ll happily prove it again now.
You will never admit it and so you’ll cry and run away.
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Why?
For the team. Alonso and Sissoko couldn't play on the right of behind Torres. Gerrard excelled, he saw he was onto a winning formula(relatively speaking) and when Sissoko suffered the bad injury brought in Mascherano.
Not sure why you're sticking to this story you've made up despite numerous people telling you you're wrong, the player himself being outstanding in the role, winning numerous individual awards and the manager who moved him stating his reasons but yes, like you always say but never evidence, you are great at admitting you're wrong.
posted on 23/3/24
Didn't have the discipline or intelligence
Passing tick
Shoiting tick
Tackling tick
Pace tick
Heading tick
Leadership tick
Will never work in midfield 😆
posted on 23/3/24
TOOR, you’re doing that thing where you convince yourself.
The facts don’t match with what you believe, though.
Liverpool struggled with Gerrard in a two man central midfield.
A decent manager came along, moved Gerrard and played some proper central midfielders instead.
Liverpool did a lot better.
Do tell me what on earth you think qualifies Gerrard as one of the best central midfielders ever, apart from being voted in the team of the year.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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02/03
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
Didn't have the discipline or intelligence
Passing tick
Shoiting tick
Tackling tick
Pace tick
Heading tick
Leadership tick
Will never work in midfield 😆
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TOOR’s argument is to write the word tick, as if that proves anything.
The drunk old fool is preparing some all time classic posts tonight.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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02/03
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
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You’ve missed out half his career you utter moron.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
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Incidentally, one of the main reasons Scholes got his breakthrough to regular first team football was based on necessity, due to the Cantona ban. I don't think he even played as advanced in the youth teams, though stand to be corrected on that as I didn't watch youth football back in those days.
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Wasn't Scholes originally put in as an attacker because Fergie thought he was too small to be anywhere else? This is another reason Schole's deserves plaudits as he had to overcome bias too.
posted on 23/3/24
Oh Winston I wish I had your energy but yes I'll do that thing you call it and run away.
In the real world I'm not going to repeat myself for days and flog a dead horse. I'll leave that for you.
Scholes was an excellent player and certainly not overrated when he played but underrated for me. He got somewhat overrated when he retired.
Gerrard shouldn't even be in the conversation. Many saw him as the best midfielder of the PL era and yet only got one third in the Balon D'Or.
Torres a weird choice for me. Wasn't rated very highly after leaving Liverpool and whilst at Liverpool banged them in and did the same at a young age for Atletico.
So my pick is Le Tissier who going by this forum at least is overrated.
Good night Winston, and all. Yes yes, I've ran away etc etc. You win etc. Good job.
posted on 23/3/24
A wee ps. I'm 39. Not old in most peoples' book and not yet drunk although working on it. I bid you adieu.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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02/03
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
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You’ve missed out half his career you utter moron.
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I didn't say he played behind the striker for his entire career, you buffoon. I mean, my explicit comments are right here if you can read.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 12 seconds ago
Oh Winston I wish I had your energy but yes I'll do that thing you call it and run away.
In the real world I'm not going to repeat myself for days and flog a dead horse. I'll leave that for you.
Scholes was an excellent player and certainly not overrated when he played but underrated for me. He got somewhat overrated when he retired.
Gerrard shouldn't even be in the conversation. Many saw him as the best midfielder of the PL era and yet only got one third in the Balon D'Or.
Torres a weird choice for me. Wasn't rated very highly after leaving Liverpool and whilst at Liverpool banged them in and did the same at a young age for Atletico.
So my pick is Le Tissier who going by this forum at least is overrated.
Good night Winston, and all. Yes yes, I've ran away etc etc. You win etc. Good job.
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And there it is.
TOOR deflects to arguing something that hasn’t been said, because he’s comprehensively lost the debate and made a fool of himself in the process.
You’re drunk, you haven’t watched football live enough to have a valid opinion and you will argue absolutely anything if it means you can claim Gerrard is the best player ever apart from Messi and Ronaldo.
It’s really quite fun watching you squirm and then eventually lose.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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02/03
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
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You’ve missed out half his career you utter moron.
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I didn't say he played behind the striker for his entire career, you buffoon.I mean, my explicit comments are right here if you can read.
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I’d forgotten how stupid you are.
It’s simply not worth debating with you.
Have a read up and see if you can realise why what you’ve said is truly moronic. Good luck.
posted on 23/3/24
Night Winston.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
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Incidentally, one of the main reasons Scholes got his breakthrough to regular first team football was based on necessity, due to the Cantona ban. I don't think he even played as advanced in the youth teams, though stand to be corrected on that as I didn't watch youth football back in those days.
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Wasn't Scholes originally put in as an attacker because Fergie thought he was too small to be anywhere else? This is another reason Schole's deserves plaudits as he had to overcome bias too.
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I think there was a lot of talk he could be released due to his physical statute and as a result, he was normally on the bench for the youth sides, who had a lot of talented midfielders.
But I think when he was moved forward, it was more due to lack of options in that area. I think he scored a couple of goals on his debut there in the League Cup, where SAF always played younger players and that probably gave him a platform. But I don't think he'd been regularly selected there in the youth team before hand. Not certain of that though
posted on 23/3/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
Night Winston.
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You already said that.
Good to see you’re still lurking around.
You lost the debate TOOR. I have seen Gerrard live far more than you and I know Liverpool’s history better than you, clearly,
Call it a night. You’re drunk.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of the trio of Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, the underrated one was Lampard. Was more tactically disciplined than Gerrard and better defensively than Scholes, and his ability to time those late runs to the edge of the box to finish is something that hasn't been seen since. A threat to score in every facking game.
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The guy who played at the head of a three man midfield, compared with Scholes who played in a two man midfield?
Okay then.
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Scholes in the 90's and early 2000's often played as a 10 or second striker ahead of the likes of Keane, Nicky Butt and later Veron. I remember when Man U won the title in '02/03, he was often deployed behind Van Nistelrooy.
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You are talking out of your backside.
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This is totally true, Winston, and you can't refute one word of it. I was a kid, but I have pretty vivid memories of the 02/03 season and Scholes was deployed behind Van Nistelrooy for much of it that I can remember.
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02/03
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Great argument. Let's post more emojis.
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You’ve missed out half his career you utter moron.
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I didn't say he played behind the striker for his entire career, you buffoon.I mean, my explicit comments are right here if you can read.
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I’d forgotten how stupid you are.
It’s simply not worth debating with you.
Have a read up and see if you can realise why what you’ve said is truly moronic. Good luck.
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Read it, and yes, youre still an utter buffoon. Because my comments and time frame are pretty clear and explicit, so no idea why you're rambling about "missed half of his career".
posted on 23/3/24
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
Night Winston.
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You already said that.
Good to see you’re still lurking around.
You lost the debate TOOR. I have seen Gerrard live far more than you and I know Liverpool’s history better than you, clearly,
Call it a night. You’re drunk.
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Clever baiting Winston but I'm not getting back into it. The debate can't go any further unfortunately. Off to actually get drunk. My lurking has ended for the night.
posted on 23/3/24
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
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Incidentally, one of the main reasons Scholes got his breakthrough to regular first team football was based on necessity, due to the Cantona ban. I don't think he even played as advanced in the youth teams, though stand to be corrected on that as I didn't watch youth football back in those days.
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Wasn't Scholes originally put in as an attacker because Fergie thought he was too small to be anywhere else? This is another reason Schole's deserves plaudits as he had to overcome bias too.
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I think there was a lot of talk he could be released due to his physical statute and as a result, he was normally on the bench for the youth sides, who had a lot of talented midfielders.
But I think when he was moved forward, it was more due to lack of options in that area. I think he scored a couple of goals on his debut there in the League Cup, where SAF always played younger players and that probably gave him a platform. But I don't think he'd been regularly selected there in the youth team before hand. Not certain of that though
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I should add that for SAF to him in that position to begin with, he obviously saw something in him to know he could perform there. But I think it was also due to circumstance in many ways, in that we lacked forward options in reserve and that paved the way for Scholes to get those early opportunities in that position
posted on 23/3/24
And whoever asked about the real Ronaldo. Yeah he was phenomenal.
posted on 24/3/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 20 seconds ago
And whoever asked about the real Ronaldo. Yeah he was phenomenal.
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I do agree I was just trying to create chat that wasn't Scholes vs Gerrard
posted on 24/3/24
Mainoo is quite overrated
posted on 24/3/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
Night Winston.
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You already said that.
Good to see you’re still lurking around.
You lost the debate TOOR. I have seen Gerrard live far more than you and I know Liverpool’s history better than you, clearly,
Call it a night. You’re drunk.
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Clever baiting Winston but I'm not getting back into it. The debate can't go any further unfortunately. Off to actually get drunk. My lurking has ended for the night.
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It can’t go any further because you’re wrong and you have no credible reply to my point.
So now you’re just drunk posting silly replies in an attempt to drag it off topic. Which will all be my fault, I’m sure.
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