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posted on 27/3/24

We badly need a quality midfielder in the summer to support him.

posted on 27/3/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 40 minutes ago
We badly need a quality midfielder in the summer to support him.

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We don’t. You’re forgetting Mount because he’s been injured.

posted on 27/3/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 40 minutes ago
We badly need a quality midfielder in the summer to support him.

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We don’t. You’re forgetting Mount because he’s been injured.
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Mount is a sub at best

posted on 27/3/24

comment by House (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 40 minutes ago
We badly need a quality midfielder in the summer to support him.

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We don’t. You’re forgetting Mount because he’s been injured.
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Mount is a sub at best
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Mount is a cracking player

posted on 27/3/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
We badly need a quality midfielder in the summer to support him.

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Everton's Onana or a player of similar profile could be a good complement. Has the physical attributes that Kobbie (at the moment) doesn't have in abundance, can cover a lot of ground. Technically pretty good, but above all a player who frees up Mainoo to do more with his skills.

posted on 27/3/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by House (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 40 minutes ago
We badly need a quality midfielder in the summer to support him.

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We don’t. You’re forgetting Mount because he’s been injured.
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Mount is a sub at best
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Mount is a cracking player
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Prove it

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 28/3/24

The cliche if you're good enough, you're old enough could apply to Mainoo.

You will get some players that regardless of age, just tend to be able to cope with any hype aimed at them - there are others throughout their life that never seem to cope well with the ups and downs of being in the public eye. Only time will tell.

As for international football, for me, whilst tactics etc can vary, there is little difference in standard of play between EPL, CL and international football and more is made of being able to play at international level than what it is - maybe a few years back that was the case, but no longer.

We do need someone else to be a suitable partner for Mainoo in midfield, I have suggested Palhinha, but if not him then someone of similar ilk. I see Mount as more of an alternative for Bruno, and that's only if Mount can show his form of a few years ago, not sure if he still has it in him.

posted on 28/3/24

comment by House (U17162)
posted 10 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by House (U17162)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 40 minutes ago
We badly need a quality midfielder in the summer to support him.

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We don’t. You’re forgetting Mount because he’s been injured.
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Mount is a sub at best
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Mount is a cracking player
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Prove it
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Anyone who saw him play for Chelsea in the seasons around the CL win know he is a player. Whether we can get him playing like that again is the only real question. His form has dropped off a cliff since then, but so have the fortunes of both clubs.

posted on 28/3/24

As for international football, for me, whilst tactics etc can vary, there is little difference in standard of play between EPL, CL and international football
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Certainly at international tournament level. Where the spotlight and pressure is at a different level. When the World Cup and Euro tournaments are on there is nothing more important at the time than the form and results of the England team for all English football and non football people. (Even those football fans who insist they hate international football and dont care. Errr... you do really). England will 'expect' our football team to win it this summer and if it doesnt work out well, as we usually see, we dont cope too well with elimination and look for immediate scapegoats. If Mainoo does play, the spotlight in midfield should be on Bellingham and Rice and not Kobbie. (BTW what a feckin midfiled 3 that will become in time).

If I were Southgate I would have chosen to bypass Mainoo for this tournament. Hes not ready yet and It's all come too soon for him. Its not his time this one... yet.

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 28/3/24

comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
As for international football, for me, whilst tactics etc can vary, there is little difference in standard of play between EPL, CL and international football
+++++++


Certainly at international tournament level. Where the spotlight and pressure is at a different level. When the World Cup and Euro tournaments are on there is nothing more important at the time than the form and results of the England team for all English football and non football people. (Even those football fans who insist they hate international football and dont care. Errr... you do really). England will 'expect' our football team to win it this summer and if it doesnt work out well, as we usually see, we dont cope too well with elimination and look for immediate scapegoats. If Mainoo does play, the spotlight in midfield should be on Bellingham and Rice and not Kobbie. (BTW what a feckin midfiled 3 that will become in time).

If I were Southgate I would have chosen to bypass Mainoo for this tournament. Hes not ready yet and It's all come too soon for him. Its not his time this one... yet.
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Or maybe it is his time, and it's just all happening at the right time? I'm not saying that is the case, you just never know. But he looks so comfortable when playing the game, there are some things that money can't buy, and this kid seems to have it. I understand that people can be apprehensive, but someone either has the mentality to cope of not, regardless of age

posted on 28/3/24

Hes not ready yet and It's all come too soon for him
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I see a lot of people say this, how do you know exactly? Performance and ability wise I don't think there's any doubt he's ready. In terms of the mental aspect - these are things that would no doubt have been strongly considered and I'm sure England would've been consulting with staff at United about it. Some players can just cope with those demands at that age.

posted on 28/3/24

It’s one thing playing Belgium in a friendly at Wembley, it’s an entire different thing playing in Germany in an international tournament. The pressures are completely different.

posted on 28/3/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 13 minutes ago
It’s one thing playing Belgium in a friendly at Wembley, it’s an entire different thing playing in Germany in an international tournament. The pressures are completely different.
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This

posted on 28/3/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
It’s one thing playing Belgium in a friendly at Wembley, it’s an entire different thing playing in Germany in an international tournament. The pressures are completely different.
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This is true.

Also true that some very young, relatively inexperienced players have coped fine with those kinds of challenges. Euro 2004 wasn't too soon for Rooney (at almost the same age Mainoo is now). Rooney of course had more senior experience at that point, but the reason he was ready for international football was his mentality, not the minutes he had put in at Everton. So I'd say the difference is mainly that we knew more about Rooney's mental readiness than we do about Mainoo's due to seeing him over a longer period of time. Hopefully the people making decisions about Mainoo are well informed about his psychology and take that seriously into consideration.

I guess it's worth pointing out that the world around playing for England is very different to 20 years ago - for better and worse. Social media amplifies everything. On the other hand, I'd say the England set-up itself is a lot more united and supportive than it was in the 2000s, and the media is a little bit less toxic and hysterical in its reporting of the England team.

posted on 28/3/24

I can see where people are coming from wanting to protect him from the media... But no one can control that side of things. That genie is out of the bottle already, so just enjoy it and hope for the best.

posted on 28/3/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 27 minutes ago
It’s one thing playing Belgium in a friendly at Wembley, it’s an entire different thing playing in Germany in an international tournament. The pressures are completely different.
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Can imagine playing in front of 80,000 fans at home is not a cakewalk. I don't think pressure affects this lad. Everytime I am watch utd he is always composed. He will be fine.

posted on 28/3/24

The kid plays for United, so will be as prepared as a young player can be, for the close attention he will recieve in the media.

I'm all for safeguarding, but at the same time, there is only so much that can be done. Ultimately, he is a footballer, employed to play football.

posted on 28/3/24

Trent, Bellingham, Foden, all recieved similar praise at a very young age, and haven't been destroyed by the media.

Even Greenwood got off pretty lightly considering the allegations.

posted on 28/3/24

comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
Trent, Bellingham, Foden, all recieved similar praise at a very young age, and haven't been destroyed by the media.

Even Greenwood got off pretty lightly considering the allegations.
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That’s cos greenwood had you and Tate’s army defending him at every turn

posted on 28/3/24

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
It’s one thing playing Belgium in a friendly at Wembley, it’s an entire different thing playing in Germany in an international tournament. The pressures are completely different.
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This is true.

Also true that some very young, relatively inexperienced players have coped fine with those kinds of challenges. Euro 2004 wasn't too soon for Rooney (at almost the same age Mainoo is now). Rooney of course had more senior experience at that point, but the reason he was ready for international football was his mentality, not the minutes he had put in at Everton. So I'd say the difference is mainly that we knew more about Rooney's mental readiness than we do about Mainoo's due to seeing him over a longer period of time. Hopefully the people making decisions about Mainoo are well informed about his psychology and take that seriously into consideration.

I guess it's worth pointing out that the world around playing for England is very different to 20 years ago - for better and worse. Social media amplifies everything. On the other hand, I'd say the England set-up itself is a lot more united and supportive than it was in the 2000s, and the media is a little bit less toxic and hysterical in its reporting of the England team.
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Yeah I do understand all that. But also how many central midfielders have started at the Euros after what may be four friendlies? It’s one for Southgate, if he thinks he’s ready then fine. But I’d be surprised if he does, and that’s okay by me. I don’t think it would be fair to throw him into the lion’s den.

posted on 28/3/24

comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 44 minutes ago
Trent, Bellingham, Foden, all recieved similar praise at a very young age, and haven't been destroyed by the media.

Even Greenwood got off pretty lightly considering the allegations.
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Saka is another.

posted on 28/3/24

comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
Trent, Bellingham, Foden, all recieved similar praise at a very young age, and haven't been destroyed by the media.

Even Greenwood got off pretty lightly considering the allegations.
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That’s cos greenwood had you and Tate’s army defending him at every turn
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Take the secks trafficker? Deffo not me Bro. Guy Is an idiot.

posted on 28/3/24

comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
Trent, Bellingham, Foden, all recieved similar praise at a very young age, and haven't been destroyed by the media.

Even Greenwood got off pretty lightly considering the allegations.
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That’s cos greenwood had you and Tate’s army defending him at every turn
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Take the secks trafficker? Deffo not me Bro. Guy Is an idiot.
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Tate

posted on 28/3/24

comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
Trent, Bellingham, Foden, all recieved similar praise at a very young age, and haven't been destroyed by the media.

Even Greenwood got off pretty lightly considering the allegations.
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That’s cos greenwood had you and Tate’s army defending him at every turn
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Take the secks trafficker? Deffo not me Bro. Guy Is an idiot.
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Tate
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Your hero

posted on 28/3/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
It’s one thing playing Belgium in a friendly at Wembley, it’s an entire different thing playing in Germany in an international tournament. The pressures are completely different.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is true.

Also true that some very young, relatively inexperienced players have coped fine with those kinds of challenges. Euro 2004 wasn't too soon for Rooney (at almost the same age Mainoo is now). Rooney of course had more senior experience at that point, but the reason he was ready for international football was his mentality, not the minutes he had put in at Everton. So I'd say the difference is mainly that we knew more about Rooney's mental readiness than we do about Mainoo's due to seeing him over a longer period of time. Hopefully the people making decisions about Mainoo are well informed about his psychology and take that seriously into consideration.

I guess it's worth pointing out that the world around playing for England is very different to 20 years ago - for better and worse. Social media amplifies everything. On the other hand, I'd say the England set-up itself is a lot more united and supportive than it was in the 2000s, and the media is a little bit less toxic and hysterical in its reporting of the England team.
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Yeah I do understand all that. But also how many central midfielders have started at the Euros after what may be four friendlies? It’s one for Southgate, if he thinks he’s ready then fine. But I’d be surprised if he does, and that’s okay by me. I don’t think it would be fair to throw him into the lion’s den.
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Exactly. Its as if Southgate didnt have a plan for his team selections for the Euros in his mind 3 months ago. Suddenly Mainoo has appeared st United and Soutgate probably hopes he is going to save his job. Which is very unfair to subject to an 18 year old. Stick to the plan Gareth and win the Euros with what you know and have planned with. Mainoo will be ready for World Cup qualifying next season onwards lif he carries on progressing.

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