comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
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Casemiro has never been world class.
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😂
He was the best DM on the planet for 3-4 years or certainly top 2.
Recency bias and this forum are really quite something. He was brilliant for Madrid. Their fans are very hard to please and they loved him. Says it all.
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The fact that RM were willing to let him go, it just didn't feel right at the time for me. Maybe it was just a short-term buy that hasn't worked out, but with both him and Varane it felt like, they played for RM, they must be good, without any real thought plan.
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Oh for sure. They didn't mind letting him go as they had the best out of him. But I was just replying to that Spurs plank who said he wasn't world class. He clearly was to play so many games for that club and win what he did.
As ever we were played good and proper. Schweinsteiger was another. World class in his day but never came close to that tag for us.
We really do need to end this policy and take note of what the dippers and Arsenal have done. It's the only way really.
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 12 minutes ago
The right thing to do. Casemiro needs to go also.
I hope we now focus on players similar to Vidic, Evra, Hernandez - relatively unknown, small transfer fee, huge players in the end for us! Obviously won’t know for sure but good when it works out, better than big money flops!
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Our current problem is that it's difficult to find and take risks on these players in our current situation. When you are successful, or playing well, it's easier to blend in new recruits and take a punt on ore or two. It's the situation City are in and the one we used to be in.
But it always feels like we need new signings to make an immediate impact, there is extra pressure on them, and that's when you need a manager who has a clear vision and can impart that on the players
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Casemiro has never been world class.
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😂
He was the best DM on the planet for 3-4 years or certainly top 2.
Recency bias and this forum are really quite something. He was brilliant for Madrid. Their fans are very hard to please and they loved him. Says it all.
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The fact that RM were willing to let him go, it just didn't feel right at the time for me. Maybe it was just a short-term buy that hasn't worked out, but with both him and Varane it felt like, they played for RM, they must be good, without any real thought plan.
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Oh for sure. They didn't mind letting him go as they had the best out of him. But I was just replying to that Spurs plank who said he wasn't world class. He clearly was to play so many games for that club and win what he did.
As ever we were played good and proper. Schweinsteiger was another. World class in his day but never came close to that tag for us.
We really do need to end this policy and take note of what the dippers and Arsenal have done. It's the only way really.
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It's similar to when Keano left us - his legs had gone and just a shadow of his former self. But we really have bought such a large number of players who weren't going to improve and probably were past their peak, it really was so desperate at times.
The big concern next season is that we are going to be woefully short of leadership.
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
I'd personally keep Bruno as I still think he's out best player and he gives his all. If he leaves too.....I'd be very worried about next season that we could fall even further behind.
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
.................
Bruno is not a good leader. He is an awful one. Bruno going will be a good one in the long run as we can then finally move away from 4-2-3-1.
Very good footballer but this is the right decision from United. Can't pay a guy that much to be unavailable half the season.
Utd seem to have a major issues with keeping defenders fit, its been on going for the best part of 10 years, even during SAF days with Smalling and Phil Jones.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 26 seconds ago
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
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Bruno is not a good leader. He is an awful one. Bruno going will be a good one in the long run as we can then finally move away from 4-2-3-1.
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I'm with you on the 4231 thing tbf. I wouldn't mind a change now.
Who'd you make captain then VC if he left? Maguire or Martinez would be the only stand out options which is the point I was making.
I think we will keep Bruno for one more season personally.
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
Keeping Bruno is a no-brainer for me. Other players have had their moments but over the last few years, he's been the one player to usually play at a good level. But Bruno is not skipper material and seems a typical he's the best player, let's make him captain choice. The team does lack leaders.
I know Maguire isn't rated highly, but we might find him and Martinez as first choice again, I know first time out it wasn't great but Maguire was being scapegoated for everything back then and Martinez was just settling in. If he played regularly, I would give captaincy back to Maguire.
I don't see the team changing that much next season, maybe 3 new faces at most
4 new signings needs to be the bare minimum.
CB
DM
RW/LW
ST
I'd personally hope for maybe 1 or 2 more as well but 4 new starters is definitely the minimum we require if we want to try and compete for 4th/5th. Top 3 I think is beyond is sadly. That won't change next season unless the new Liverpool manager has a mare.
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
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July 2024: Welcome to Manchester United, Dani Carvajal.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
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July 2024: Welcome to Manchester United, Dani Carvajal.
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For 60 million.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
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They were never going to be as good for us as they were at Real, but they were still world class players.
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
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July 2024: Welcome to Manchester United, Dani Carvajal.
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For 60 million.
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Thankfully those days are over now. You've had your fun I'm sure.
INEOS aren't going to sanction those types of deals anymore considering the scrutiny they have attached to the Casemiro deal.
Somebody else's turn now.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
4 new signings needs to be the bare minimum.
CB
DM
RW/LW
ST
I'd personally hope for maybe 1 or 2 more as well but 4 new starters is definitely the minimum we require if we want to try and compete for 4th/5th. Top 3 I think is beyond is sadly. That won't change next season unless the new Liverpool manager has a mare.
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Ideally I would like 10 new players in
I think we will do well to get in 4, and it really depends on how much we have to spend..........I mean we could get in 6 but they turn out to be rubbish
I really like Bowen - who can play anywhere up front and has the right qualities about him, and can be a leader as well.
If it was 4 we got in, I would rather 2 CF - we really need to control games and give Mainoo a break every so often.
I just fear finances will restrict us badly
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
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July 2024: Welcome to Manchester United, Dani Carvajal.
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For 60 million.
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Thankfully those days are over now. You've had your fun I'm sure.
INEOS aren't going to sanction those types of deals anymore considering the scrutiny they have attached to the Casemiro deal.
Somebody else's turn now.
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I hope so.
If you're going to overpay massively for players then pay it to clubs like Porto, Ajax and Southampton. Not Madrid FFS. They got money problems and we need to do as much as we can to sink them.
The big concern next season is that we are going to be woefully short of leadership.
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
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Well it hasn't done much for us this season.
I also think Casemiro's 'leadership' is overstated, at least on the pitch. He is often one of the first to lose his bottle when things aren't going our way.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think it's the right decision given his wages / injuries.
It's quite ironic though that he's missed far fewer games than Martinez has in these two seasons they have been here together. If we get a repeat again next season with Licha then he will be sold next summer for sure.
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Generally though, in the long term, you'd be less concerned about the longer, impact injuries that Martinez has suffered than the constant, niggling injuries that Varane has kept picking up (Licha's most recent calf injury aside).
I'd like to think Martinez's injuries are bad luck, but also think they might be a result of the combination of his very aggressive style, and the fact he's generally physically competing with bigger and stronger men. The injury he picked up against West Ham for example, I thought was pretty needless on his part - but you wouldn't take that out of him because it makes him the player he is. We've seen something similar with Eric Bailly before where he picked up a few injuries simply through being a facking idiot.
But yeah, next season is do or die for him. But I've said before I have doubts about whether a new manager would want to keep him as a CB anyway.
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Let's hope the are bad luck and we get a full season out of him next year. I'm not too hopeful though given we've already had three long lay offs.
Nothing de-rails a season quite like having your best CB missing either. We've fallen foul to it and Liverpool have twice in the last 5 years as well.
I'd be a bit concerned though if the plan to replace Rafa is to chuck loads of Money at Branthwaite. He's still pretty unproven for one and he's also going to cost a lot of money as well. And where is the experience going to come from in the team?
Personally think we need to be signing a few CB's this summer. We can't afford a repeat of this season.
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Ideally we would sign a couple of CBs, but i see us getting in one, with Martinez, Maguire, Evans and Kambwala staying. We need personnel, but also a more street-wise approach in terms of how we defend and attack as a team etc.
I think any new manager will make a great difference
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No chance does Evans stay on as a 1st team player.
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
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They were never going to be as good for us as they were at Real, but they were still world class players.
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As you say, they were never going to maintain their form, but they weren't what we needed. There was always the likelihood that they were on the decline and perhaps lost a bit of hunger, we needed younger players who could have improved etc.
But as discussed already, we were just a place were older players were able to have one last hurrah, we were desperate for success and our transfers showed that.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 minute ago
Keeping Bruno is a no-brainer for me.
......................
Then you better get used to what we have been seeing all season long and the latter part of Ole.
It may get better with a new manager for while but will soon wear off.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 31 seconds ago
The big concern next season is that we are going to be woefully short of leadership.
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
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Well it hasn't done much for us this season.
I also think Casemiro's 'leadership' is overstated, at least on the pitch. He is often one of the first to lose his bottle when things aren't going our way.
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It's easy to say that but take those three away and have a good look at who is left behind. The squad looks so poor. There's no experience or leadership left whatsoever. You'd have a straight shoot out between Maguire and Martinez for captain. Dalot would probably come into the thinking too.
I would genuinely worry for us next season if we sold Bruno.
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 46 minutes ago
The right thing to do. Casemiro needs to go also.
I hope we now focus on players similar to Vidic, Evra, Hernandez - relatively unknown, small transfer fee, huge players in the end for us! Obviously won’t know for sure but good when it works out, better than big money flops!
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Malacia, Martinez, Dalot, VDB, Lindelof, Hojlund, Pellistri, Amad.
All relatively unknown and signed from unfashionable clubs, with a mixed outcome
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
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Casemiro has never been world class.
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😂
He was the best DM on the planet for 3-4 years or certainly top 2.
Recency bias and this forum are really quite something. He was brilliant for Madrid. Their fans are very hard to please and they loved him. Says it all.
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The fact that RM were willing to let him go, it just didn't feel right at the time for me. Maybe it was just a short-term buy that hasn't worked out, but with both him and Varane it felt like, they played for RM, they must be good, without any real thought plan.
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Real.got.good.money for 'older' players, who were attracted to United, amongst other things, lengthy, big contracts.
These deals suited Us, Real and the players. We have just not capitalised on them as players.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
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Casemiro has never been world class.
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😂
He was the best DM on the planet for 3-4 years or certainly top 2.
Recency bias and this forum are really quite something. He was brilliant for Madrid. Their fans are very hard to please and they loved him. Says it all.
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The fact that RM were willing to let him go, it just didn't feel right at the time for me. Maybe it was just a short-term buy that hasn't worked out, but with both him and Varane it felt like, they played for RM, they must be good, without any real thought plan.
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Real would have identified the next Bruno by now, and be open to good offers. Its what well run clubs do. Doesn't mean theose players leaving aren't good anymore
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posted on 14/5/24
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Casemiro has never been world class.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
😂
He was the best DM on the planet for 3-4 years or certainly top 2.
Recency bias and this forum are really quite something. He was brilliant for Madrid. Their fans are very hard to please and they loved him. Says it all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fact that RM were willing to let him go, it just didn't feel right at the time for me. Maybe it was just a short-term buy that hasn't worked out, but with both him and Varane it felt like, they played for RM, they must be good, without any real thought plan.
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Oh for sure. They didn't mind letting him go as they had the best out of him. But I was just replying to that Spurs plank who said he wasn't world class. He clearly was to play so many games for that club and win what he did.
As ever we were played good and proper. Schweinsteiger was another. World class in his day but never came close to that tag for us.
We really do need to end this policy and take note of what the dippers and Arsenal have done. It's the only way really.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 12 minutes ago
The right thing to do. Casemiro needs to go also.
I hope we now focus on players similar to Vidic, Evra, Hernandez - relatively unknown, small transfer fee, huge players in the end for us! Obviously won’t know for sure but good when it works out, better than big money flops!
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Our current problem is that it's difficult to find and take risks on these players in our current situation. When you are successful, or playing well, it's easier to blend in new recruits and take a punt on ore or two. It's the situation City are in and the one we used to be in.
But it always feels like we need new signings to make an immediate impact, there is extra pressure on them, and that's when you need a manager who has a clear vision and can impart that on the players
posted on 14/5/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Casemiro has never been world class.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
😂
He was the best DM on the planet for 3-4 years or certainly top 2.
Recency bias and this forum are really quite something. He was brilliant for Madrid. Their fans are very hard to please and they loved him. Says it all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fact that RM were willing to let him go, it just didn't feel right at the time for me. Maybe it was just a short-term buy that hasn't worked out, but with both him and Varane it felt like, they played for RM, they must be good, without any real thought plan.
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Oh for sure. They didn't mind letting him go as they had the best out of him. But I was just replying to that Spurs plank who said he wasn't world class. He clearly was to play so many games for that club and win what he did.
As ever we were played good and proper. Schweinsteiger was another. World class in his day but never came close to that tag for us.
We really do need to end this policy and take note of what the dippers and Arsenal have done. It's the only way really.
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It's similar to when Keano left us - his legs had gone and just a shadow of his former self. But we really have bought such a large number of players who weren't going to improve and probably were past their peak, it really was so desperate at times.
posted on 14/5/24
The big concern next season is that we are going to be woefully short of leadership.
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
I'd personally keep Bruno as I still think he's out best player and he gives his all. If he leaves too.....I'd be very worried about next season that we could fall even further behind.
posted on 14/5/24
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
.................
Bruno is not a good leader. He is an awful one. Bruno going will be a good one in the long run as we can then finally move away from 4-2-3-1.
posted on 14/5/24
Very good footballer but this is the right decision from United. Can't pay a guy that much to be unavailable half the season.
posted on 14/5/24
Utd seem to have a major issues with keeping defenders fit, its been on going for the best part of 10 years, even during SAF days with Smalling and Phil Jones.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 26 seconds ago
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
.................
Bruno is not a good leader. He is an awful one. Bruno going will be a good one in the long run as we can then finally move away from 4-2-3-1.
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I'm with you on the 4231 thing tbf. I wouldn't mind a change now.
Who'd you make captain then VC if he left? Maguire or Martinez would be the only stand out options which is the point I was making.
I think we will keep Bruno for one more season personally.
posted on 14/5/24
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
posted on 14/5/24
Keeping Bruno is a no-brainer for me. Other players have had their moments but over the last few years, he's been the one player to usually play at a good level. But Bruno is not skipper material and seems a typical he's the best player, let's make him captain choice. The team does lack leaders.
I know Maguire isn't rated highly, but we might find him and Martinez as first choice again, I know first time out it wasn't great but Maguire was being scapegoated for everything back then and Martinez was just settling in. If he played regularly, I would give captaincy back to Maguire.
I don't see the team changing that much next season, maybe 3 new faces at most
posted on 14/5/24
4 new signings needs to be the bare minimum.
CB
DM
RW/LW
ST
I'd personally hope for maybe 1 or 2 more as well but 4 new starters is definitely the minimum we require if we want to try and compete for 4th/5th. Top 3 I think is beyond is sadly. That won't change next season unless the new Liverpool manager has a mare.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
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July 2024: Welcome to Manchester United, Dani Carvajal.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
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July 2024: Welcome to Manchester United, Dani Carvajal.
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For 60 million.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
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They were never going to be as good for us as they were at Real, but they were still world class players.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
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July 2024: Welcome to Manchester United, Dani Carvajal.
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For 60 million.
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Thankfully those days are over now. You've had your fun I'm sure.
INEOS aren't going to sanction those types of deals anymore considering the scrutiny they have attached to the Casemiro deal.
Somebody else's turn now.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
4 new signings needs to be the bare minimum.
CB
DM
RW/LW
ST
I'd personally hope for maybe 1 or 2 more as well but 4 new starters is definitely the minimum we require if we want to try and compete for 4th/5th. Top 3 I think is beyond is sadly. That won't change next season unless the new Liverpool manager has a mare.
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Ideally I would like 10 new players in
I think we will do well to get in 4, and it really depends on how much we have to spend..........I mean we could get in 6 but they turn out to be rubbish
I really like Bowen - who can play anywhere up front and has the right qualities about him, and can be a leader as well.
If it was 4 we got in, I would rather 2 CF - we really need to control games and give Mainoo a break every so often.
I just fear finances will restrict us badly
posted on 14/5/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't allow Madrid to keep bending you over for old players who you pay a bomb for. You're becoming their dumping ground and helping them succeed and meet FFP while you flounder in 8th place.
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July 2024: Welcome to Manchester United, Dani Carvajal.
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For 60 million.
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Thankfully those days are over now. You've had your fun I'm sure.
INEOS aren't going to sanction those types of deals anymore considering the scrutiny they have attached to the Casemiro deal.
Somebody else's turn now.
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I hope so.
If you're going to overpay massively for players then pay it to clubs like Porto, Ajax and Southampton. Not Madrid FFS. They got money problems and we need to do as much as we can to sink them.
posted on 14/5/24
The big concern next season is that we are going to be woefully short of leadership.
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
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Well it hasn't done much for us this season.
I also think Casemiro's 'leadership' is overstated, at least on the pitch. He is often one of the first to lose his bottle when things aren't going our way.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
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comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think it's the right decision given his wages / injuries.
It's quite ironic though that he's missed far fewer games than Martinez has in these two seasons they have been here together. If we get a repeat again next season with Licha then he will be sold next summer for sure.
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Generally though, in the long term, you'd be less concerned about the longer, impact injuries that Martinez has suffered than the constant, niggling injuries that Varane has kept picking up (Licha's most recent calf injury aside).
I'd like to think Martinez's injuries are bad luck, but also think they might be a result of the combination of his very aggressive style, and the fact he's generally physically competing with bigger and stronger men. The injury he picked up against West Ham for example, I thought was pretty needless on his part - but you wouldn't take that out of him because it makes him the player he is. We've seen something similar with Eric Bailly before where he picked up a few injuries simply through being a facking idiot.
But yeah, next season is do or die for him. But I've said before I have doubts about whether a new manager would want to keep him as a CB anyway.
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Let's hope the are bad luck and we get a full season out of him next year. I'm not too hopeful though given we've already had three long lay offs.
Nothing de-rails a season quite like having your best CB missing either. We've fallen foul to it and Liverpool have twice in the last 5 years as well.
I'd be a bit concerned though if the plan to replace Rafa is to chuck loads of Money at Branthwaite. He's still pretty unproven for one and he's also going to cost a lot of money as well. And where is the experience going to come from in the team?
Personally think we need to be signing a few CB's this summer. We can't afford a repeat of this season.
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Ideally we would sign a couple of CBs, but i see us getting in one, with Martinez, Maguire, Evans and Kambwala staying. We need personnel, but also a more street-wise approach in terms of how we defend and attack as a team etc.
I think any new manager will make a great difference
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No chance does Evans stay on as a 1st team player.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
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They were never going to be as good for us as they were at Real, but they were still world class players.
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As you say, they were never going to maintain their form, but they weren't what we needed. There was always the likelihood that they were on the decline and perhaps lost a bit of hunger, we needed younger players who could have improved etc.
But as discussed already, we were just a place were older players were able to have one last hurrah, we were desperate for success and our transfers showed that.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 minute ago
Keeping Bruno is a no-brainer for me.
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Then you better get used to what we have been seeing all season long and the latter part of Ole.
It may get better with a new manager for while but will soon wear off.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 31 seconds ago
The big concern next season is that we are going to be woefully short of leadership.
Varane confirmed gone. Casemiro is looking very likely too and now there's quite a few stories about Bruno going.
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Well it hasn't done much for us this season.
I also think Casemiro's 'leadership' is overstated, at least on the pitch. He is often one of the first to lose his bottle when things aren't going our way.
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It's easy to say that but take those three away and have a good look at who is left behind. The squad looks so poor. There's no experience or leadership left whatsoever. You'd have a straight shoot out between Maguire and Martinez for captain. Dalot would probably come into the thinking too.
I would genuinely worry for us next season if we sold Bruno.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 46 minutes ago
The right thing to do. Casemiro needs to go also.
I hope we now focus on players similar to Vidic, Evra, Hernandez - relatively unknown, small transfer fee, huge players in the end for us! Obviously won’t know for sure but good when it works out, better than big money flops!
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Malacia, Martinez, Dalot, VDB, Lindelof, Hojlund, Pellistri, Amad.
All relatively unknown and signed from unfashionable clubs, with a mixed outcome
posted on 14/5/24
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
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Casemiro has never been world class.
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😂
He was the best DM on the planet for 3-4 years or certainly top 2.
Recency bias and this forum are really quite something. He was brilliant for Madrid. Their fans are very hard to please and they loved him. Says it all.
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The fact that RM were willing to let him go, it just didn't feel right at the time for me. Maybe it was just a short-term buy that hasn't worked out, but with both him and Varane it felt like, they played for RM, they must be good, without any real thought plan.
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Real.got.good.money for 'older' players, who were attracted to United, amongst other things, lengthy, big contracts.
These deals suited Us, Real and the players. We have just not capitalised on them as players.
posted on 14/5/24
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 8 minutes ago
The buys of Casemiro and Varane pretty much show the blinkered chaotic approach to our transfer activities in recent years
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Yeah. Stupid , buying world class players.
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They were past their best world class players. It was like when we brought Ronaldo back. So yeah, it was stupid
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Casemiro has never been world class.
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😂
He was the best DM on the planet for 3-4 years or certainly top 2.
Recency bias and this forum are really quite something. He was brilliant for Madrid. Their fans are very hard to please and they loved him. Says it all.
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The fact that RM were willing to let him go, it just didn't feel right at the time for me. Maybe it was just a short-term buy that hasn't worked out, but with both him and Varane it felt like, they played for RM, they must be good, without any real thought plan.
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Real would have identified the next Bruno by now, and be open to good offers. Its what well run clubs do. Doesn't mean theose players leaving aren't good anymore
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