comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 52 minutes ago
Pathetic how people who support Reform are apparently racist. All just because sheep Labour + Conservative voters don't like it.
Fascism at it's finest!
Anyone who is truly supportive of our country and it's culture has got to vote Reform.
Labour will bankrupt us, they've done so many times, the Torys took the p*ss and finally lost me with all their scandals.
Now it's time for Reform
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The single most depressing comment I've ever read on here.
To hell with democracy with idiots like this voting.
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The clown won't vote reform, he's an attention seeking contrarian.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 17 minutes ago
If it's a migrant thing, you do know that the future of this country depends upon them, don't you? We're all living longer yet having less kids which means there is a dwindling number of people of working age. Fewer people working means the economy shrinks. Cut ties with Europe and it shrinks further.
The stability of this country depends upon the immigration system.
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Not necessarily.
Thinking of the country like a company is useful. Fack all point growing if it makes a loss because continued losses are not sustainable and the shareholders (aka voters) would (should) know there is only one outcome.
Marxist Greens aside there is nobody talking about the lust for growth but their version centres on unpalatable policy. Nobody has a joined up plan.
An alternative is to improve productivity with the same or less numbers but that takes time, energy, intelligence & risk which our trough feeders don't care for so better just to stick with immigration and austerity sledgehammer policies and cross the fingers.
Rant over.
Another thing, we all know that supporting conservative brings mob mentality pile ons so they don't admit it. This forum will be no different as per polls elsewhere.
The reality is all parties have good and bad policy. The country should be run by the civil service who remain by and large politically neutral and politicians should be answerable for not following the guidance of the experts who do the research and come up with good strategy proposals ripped apart by the dogma of the elected representatives most of whom have never had a real job in their puff.
If there were proportional representation I would have spent a buy of time researching Lib dems v Labour as I feel they're both reasonable options.
However, in my constituency it's close between labour and tories with no other parties close so it is a no brainer for Labour.
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 seconds ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 seconds ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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Hope all is well Rosso!
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Active Measures. (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 seconds ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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Hope all is well Rosso!
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Long time no see!
All’s well here mate, thanks. How are you?
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 16 minutes ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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I get your reasons but by fck if you'd experienced the Greens in coalition up here you wouldn't give them any hope whatsoever - cants couldn't run a home baking stall and are obsessed with gender issues and telling us what is good for us whilst giving themselves a free pass from following that same dogma.
lets be honest, if Frank Underwood was real and in british politics, we'd vote for him
Obviously it’s gonna be a landslide victory to Labour, but I’ll be sticking to voting Tory as i always do.
I'm torn still.
I'd like to vote Plaid Cymru as they most closely align with what I believe in. However, where I live it used to be a Tory constituency until they changed the boundaries (we'll have 32 seats in Wales now not 40) so I may well end up voting Labour just in case. I would really like to go with PC though as I'd rather vote for something than vote to stop something. Here we are though!
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 2 minutes ago
Obviously it’s gonna be a landslide victory to Labour, but I’ll be sticking to voting Tory as i always do.
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Why??? Are you woke?? Any hard working brit who wants to put our country first votes for Reform. Why do you HATE our country?
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
If I was voting it would be green/independent
How anyone can vote Tory or even worse reform hurts my brain
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I'd hazard a guess that those with wealth, pensions and anti immigration agendas will vote Tories or Reform.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 16 minutes ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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I get your reasons but by fck if you'd experienced the Greens in coalition up here you wouldn't give them any hope whatsoever - cants couldn't run a home baking stall and are obsessed with gender issues and telling us what is good for us whilst giving themselves a free pass from following that same dogma.
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Firstly, the Scottish Green Party is a different organisation to the England & Wales Green Party. Secondly, there's a totally different set of calculations to make when voting in a Westminster first past the post election, where you know your vote won't count toward who runs the country vs a proportional electoral system where it does. I 99% know who will win my constituency. I 99% know who will form the government. I 100% know that the Green candidate won't get elected. So in this instance it's all about sending a very small signal to the Labour government (and my Labour MP) that there are votes to win and lose to the Left of his platform, not only to the Right.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm torn still.
I'd like to vote Plaid Cymru as they most closely align with what I believe in. However, where I live it used to be a Tory constituency until they changed the boundaries (we'll have 32 seats in Wales now not 40) so I may well end up voting Labour just in case. I would really like to go with PC though as I'd rather vote for something than vote to stop something. Here we are though!
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Diafol, I guess you've checked out the tactical voting websites that calculate who has the best chance of defeating the Tories?
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
If I was voting it would be green/independent
How anyone can vote Tory or even worse reform hurts my brain
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I'd hazard a guess that those with wealth, pensions and anti immigration agendas will vote Tories or Reform.
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Why are you going for Busby? Sticking with tory or joining us over at Reform?
Here is the bbc poll tracker
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68079726
Labour miles ahead
I will vote but unsure - All the choices are sh!te
I think the turn out is going to be relatively low.
Some labour voters will be complacent.
Some traditional Tory voters will not want to vote Tory but not bring themselves to vote Labour/Reform
And I sense a fair amount of apathy towards our politicians and this GE, people more concerned with whether Palmer is going to start in place of Saka than anything Starmer Sunak have to say
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
If I was voting it would be green/independent
How anyone can vote Tory or even worse reform hurts my brain
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I'd hazard a guess that those with wealth, pensions and anti immigration agendas will vote Tories or Reform.
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Wealthy or otherwise, you have to be spectacularly economically illiterate to vote for Reform based on their economic policies.
In action, they’d make Trussonomics look eminently sensible and successful.
My constituency will be Labour (as will pretty much everywhere else in London will) so I don't have to make any tactical vote.
I'll be voting green, don't agree with everything they say but I think they have their priorities right and aren't a bunch of cuuuunts like the Tories and now Labour.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
And I sense a fair amount of apathy towards our politicians and this GE, people more concerned with whether Palmer is going to start in place of Saka than anything Starmer Sunak have to say
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IMHO Sunak was hoping this would be the case and gambled on England making the semis and his vote surging on 'nationalist positive feeling'. The cvunt.
Why do people have to go to a polling station
Why cant they just logon to a website and submit their vote
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm torn still.
I'd like to vote Plaid Cymru as they most closely align with what I believe in. However, where I live it used to be a Tory constituency until they changed the boundaries (we'll have 32 seats in Wales now not 40) so I may well end up voting Labour just in case. I would really like to go with PC though as I'd rather vote for something than vote to stop something. Here we are though!
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Diafol, I guess you've checked out the tactical voting websites that calculate who has the best chance of defeating the Tories?
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Hi RR. Yes, I have. It does state Labour is the tactical one to choose but it also shows, if it's to be trusted, that Labour should win with something to spare. If I was happy with that and did go Plaid and loads of other people did the same though then we could get Tory!
FPTP is a strange old system but, this year perhaps, it may stop us from getting too many Reform candidates winning. Which isn't a bad thing!
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posted on 3/7/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 52 minutes ago
Pathetic how people who support Reform are apparently racist. All just because sheep Labour + Conservative voters don't like it.
Fascism at it's finest!
Anyone who is truly supportive of our country and it's culture has got to vote Reform.
Labour will bankrupt us, they've done so many times, the Torys took the p*ss and finally lost me with all their scandals.
Now it's time for Reform
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The single most depressing comment I've ever read on here.
To hell with democracy with idiots like this voting.
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The clown won't vote reform, he's an attention seeking contrarian.
posted on 3/7/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 17 minutes ago
If it's a migrant thing, you do know that the future of this country depends upon them, don't you? We're all living longer yet having less kids which means there is a dwindling number of people of working age. Fewer people working means the economy shrinks. Cut ties with Europe and it shrinks further.
The stability of this country depends upon the immigration system.
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Not necessarily.
Thinking of the country like a company is useful. Fack all point growing if it makes a loss because continued losses are not sustainable and the shareholders (aka voters) would (should) know there is only one outcome.
Marxist Greens aside there is nobody talking about the lust for growth but their version centres on unpalatable policy. Nobody has a joined up plan.
An alternative is to improve productivity with the same or less numbers but that takes time, energy, intelligence & risk which our trough feeders don't care for so better just to stick with immigration and austerity sledgehammer policies and cross the fingers.
Rant over.
posted on 3/7/24
Another thing, we all know that supporting conservative brings mob mentality pile ons so they don't admit it. This forum will be no different as per polls elsewhere.
The reality is all parties have good and bad policy. The country should be run by the civil service who remain by and large politically neutral and politicians should be answerable for not following the guidance of the experts who do the research and come up with good strategy proposals ripped apart by the dogma of the elected representatives most of whom have never had a real job in their puff.
posted on 3/7/24
If there were proportional representation I would have spent a buy of time researching Lib dems v Labour as I feel they're both reasonable options.
However, in my constituency it's close between labour and tories with no other parties close so it is a no brainer for Labour.
posted on 3/7/24
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
posted on 3/7/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 seconds ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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posted on 3/7/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 seconds ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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Hope all is well Rosso!
posted on 3/7/24
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Active Measures. (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 seconds ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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Hope all is well Rosso!
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Long time no see!
All’s well here mate, thanks. How are you?
posted on 3/7/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 16 minutes ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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I get your reasons but by fck if you'd experienced the Greens in coalition up here you wouldn't give them any hope whatsoever - cants couldn't run a home baking stall and are obsessed with gender issues and telling us what is good for us whilst giving themselves a free pass from following that same dogma.
posted on 3/7/24
lets be honest, if Frank Underwood was real and in british politics, we'd vote for him
posted on 3/7/24
Obviously it’s gonna be a landslide victory to Labour, but I’ll be sticking to voting Tory as i always do.
posted on 3/7/24
I'm torn still.
I'd like to vote Plaid Cymru as they most closely align with what I believe in. However, where I live it used to be a Tory constituency until they changed the boundaries (we'll have 32 seats in Wales now not 40) so I may well end up voting Labour just in case. I would really like to go with PC though as I'd rather vote for something than vote to stop something. Here we are though!
posted on 3/7/24
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 2 minutes ago
Obviously it’s gonna be a landslide victory to Labour, but I’ll be sticking to voting Tory as i always do.
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Why??? Are you woke?? Any hard working brit who wants to put our country first votes for Reform. Why do you HATE our country?
posted on 3/7/24
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
If I was voting it would be green/independent
How anyone can vote Tory or even worse reform hurts my brain
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I'd hazard a guess that those with wealth, pensions and anti immigration agendas will vote Tories or Reform.
posted on 3/7/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 16 minutes ago
I'll vote Green.
My calculation is that Labour will win in my constituency, and it's more useful casting a vote 1) to play my tiny part in rebalancing the Overton window in a left-wing direction, and 2) because I'm fed up of Labour telling me that a vote for any other party is wasted within our electoral system, while having no interest in reforming FPTP.
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I get your reasons but by fck if you'd experienced the Greens in coalition up here you wouldn't give them any hope whatsoever - cants couldn't run a home baking stall and are obsessed with gender issues and telling us what is good for us whilst giving themselves a free pass from following that same dogma.
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Firstly, the Scottish Green Party is a different organisation to the England & Wales Green Party. Secondly, there's a totally different set of calculations to make when voting in a Westminster first past the post election, where you know your vote won't count toward who runs the country vs a proportional electoral system where it does. I 99% know who will win my constituency. I 99% know who will form the government. I 100% know that the Green candidate won't get elected. So in this instance it's all about sending a very small signal to the Labour government (and my Labour MP) that there are votes to win and lose to the Left of his platform, not only to the Right.
posted on 3/7/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm torn still.
I'd like to vote Plaid Cymru as they most closely align with what I believe in. However, where I live it used to be a Tory constituency until they changed the boundaries (we'll have 32 seats in Wales now not 40) so I may well end up voting Labour just in case. I would really like to go with PC though as I'd rather vote for something than vote to stop something. Here we are though!
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Diafol, I guess you've checked out the tactical voting websites that calculate who has the best chance of defeating the Tories?
posted on 3/7/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
If I was voting it would be green/independent
How anyone can vote Tory or even worse reform hurts my brain
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I'd hazard a guess that those with wealth, pensions and anti immigration agendas will vote Tories or Reform.
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Why are you going for Busby? Sticking with tory or joining us over at Reform?
posted on 3/7/24
Here is the bbc poll tracker
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68079726
Labour miles ahead
I will vote but unsure - All the choices are sh!te
posted on 3/7/24
I think the turn out is going to be relatively low.
Some labour voters will be complacent.
Some traditional Tory voters will not want to vote Tory but not bring themselves to vote Labour/Reform
And I sense a fair amount of apathy towards our politicians and this GE, people more concerned with whether Palmer is going to start in place of Saka than anything Starmer Sunak have to say
posted on 3/7/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
If I was voting it would be green/independent
How anyone can vote Tory or even worse reform hurts my brain
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I'd hazard a guess that those with wealth, pensions and anti immigration agendas will vote Tories or Reform.
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Wealthy or otherwise, you have to be spectacularly economically illiterate to vote for Reform based on their economic policies.
In action, they’d make Trussonomics look eminently sensible and successful.
posted on 3/7/24
My constituency will be Labour (as will pretty much everywhere else in London will) so I don't have to make any tactical vote.
I'll be voting green, don't agree with everything they say but I think they have their priorities right and aren't a bunch of cuuuunts like the Tories and now Labour.
posted on 3/7/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
And I sense a fair amount of apathy towards our politicians and this GE, people more concerned with whether Palmer is going to start in place of Saka than anything Starmer Sunak have to say
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IMHO Sunak was hoping this would be the case and gambled on England making the semis and his vote surging on 'nationalist positive feeling'. The cvunt.
posted on 3/7/24
Why do people have to go to a polling station
Why cant they just logon to a website and submit their vote
posted on 3/7/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm torn still.
I'd like to vote Plaid Cymru as they most closely align with what I believe in. However, where I live it used to be a Tory constituency until they changed the boundaries (we'll have 32 seats in Wales now not 40) so I may well end up voting Labour just in case. I would really like to go with PC though as I'd rather vote for something than vote to stop something. Here we are though!
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Diafol, I guess you've checked out the tactical voting websites that calculate who has the best chance of defeating the Tories?
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Hi RR. Yes, I have. It does state Labour is the tactical one to choose but it also shows, if it's to be trusted, that Labour should win with something to spare. If I was happy with that and did go Plaid and loads of other people did the same though then we could get Tory!
FPTP is a strange old system but, this year perhaps, it may stop us from getting too many Reform candidates winning. Which isn't a bad thing!
posted on 3/7/24
Social Justice Party formed by nearly 100 Labour Activists who left the party in my constituency because of Tory Starmer
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