comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wooohooo!
BK, would you prefer him or Neves? PSG will effectively use the Ugarte money to buy João Neves from Benfica! Another player touted as a generational talent, can we afford to keep missing out on this type of player?!
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I'd be lying if I said I'd watched either of them. What I will say is that profile-wise, Ugarte looks like exactly the kind of midfielder we desperately need within the squad: an aggressive midfield dynamo that snaps into tackles, can recycle the ball cleanly if not spectacularly, plays at a high intensity and can cover a lot of ground and facilitate those around him.
We've needed to improve the athletic profile of the squad and to me Yoro, Zirkzee and Ugarte would certainly do that - all mobile, physical players in the earlier parts of their careers with room to grow and develop.
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Middle paragraph sounds like Fred and Herrera.
Why has it taken 12 years for this club to shape up?
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
If we can only flog one of Casemiro or McTominay I’d probably go for McTominay. I know he gets the odd goal but in terms of what he does in midfield he’s completely useless. Casemiro on the other hand could get back to some form and be of use.
Ideally we sell both and bring in 2 CMs who can actually be of use.
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If I had to pick one, it'd be the one with the lowest bid. Not much to pick between either. If the same bid then keep Mactominay, I always feel Casemiro is likely to get sent off, even more so the worse he gets
Another player touted as a generational talent, can we afford to keep missing out on this type of player?!
…..
Jesus wept. We have quite literally just signed one today.
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
If we can only flog one of Casemiro or McTominay I’d probably go for McTominay. I know he gets the odd goal but in terms of what he does in midfield he’s completely useless. Casemiro on the other hand could get back to some form and be of use.
Ideally we sell both and bring in 2 CMs who can actually be of use.
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If I had to pick one, it'd be the one with the lowest bid. Not much to pick between either. If the same bid then keep Mactominay, I always feel Casemiro is likely to get sent off, even more so the worse he gets
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tbf to Casemiro, it seems like his card is always marked by refs before the game begins.
Always picks up yellows for doing sod all, which every single other PL player gets away with.
There was a a spell last season when we had 3 away games at Luton, Villa and Wolves, and Casemiro got 2 yellows and gave away a pen without actually making contact with anyone.
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
If we can only flog one of Casemiro or McTominay I’d probably go for McTominay. I know he gets the odd goal but in terms of what he does in midfield he’s completely useless. Casemiro on the other hand could get back to some form and be of use.
Ideally we sell both and bring in 2 CMs who can actually be of use.
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Would Casemiro play second fiddle to Ugarte?! I have my doubts. If and it's a very big if Casemiro miraculously discovers his first season form then it would be win-win as a key area of the pitch would have much needed competition and depth. I have my doubts about Casemiro turning it around, last season was a shocker and I don't want him in a Utd shirt.
McT is useless as a CM but could be useful as an emergency CF when we're chasing goals late in games.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
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Be quiet. Idiot.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
If we can only flog one of Casemiro or McTominay I’d probably go for McTominay. I know he gets the odd goal but in terms of what he does in midfield he’s completely useless. Casemiro on the other hand could get back to some form and be of use.
Ideally we sell both and bring in 2 CMs who can actually be of use.
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Would Casemiro play second fiddle to Ugarte?! I have my doubts. If and it's a very big if Casemiro miraculously discovers his first season form then it would be win-win as a key area of the pitch would have much needed competition and depth. I have my doubts about Casemiro turning it around, last season was a shocker and I don't want him in a Utd shirt.
McT is useless as a CM but could be useful as an emergency CF when we're chasing goals late in games.
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There's "very big ifs" and "if I win the lottery ifs"....... The odds are similar
Only properly watched Ugarte in the 22-23 season in the tie where Sporting knocked Arsenal out of the Europa League. He excelled in that match. In particular his physicality.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
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Be quiet. Idiot.
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What an abusive little man.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
Only properly watched Ugarte in the 22-23 season in the tie where Sporting knocked Arsenal out of the Europa League. He excelled in that match. In particular his physicality.
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Got sent off didn’t he?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
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Be quiet. Idiot.
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What an abusive little man.
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Described yourself so succinctly, Mr Keyboard Warrior! As per usual self awareness is not your forte!
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
Only properly watched Ugarte in the 22-23 season in the tie where Sporting knocked Arsenal out of the Europa League. He excelled in that match. In particular his physicality.
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Got sent off didn’t he?
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Forgot about that. Only in the 118th minute, with the job done.
On Casemiro vs McTominay...
I'd probably sell McTominay over Casemiro. Firstly, when on some semblance of form, Casemiro is a highly valuable player in a position that isn't easy to find top quality in. He's a specialist defensive midfield player and one of the best around (when fit and in form). He's a player that tends to be at his best when he plays a lot, and last season was the first in his career where he missed a lot through injury. I think he deserves some benefit of the doubt. I'm worried as anyone by the signs he's displayed in his game but our set-up didn't help anyone and as mentioned, his injuries had to be a factor.
Also, for all McTominay's goal scoring exploits, he actually scores less than Casemiro on average (3.6 goals per season versus 5.25 goals per season over the last 8 seasons). If it's someone from midfield who can chip in with a few extra goals, Casemiro actually does it better.
Lastly, losing Casemiro would weaken us in two areas: a player with massive experience at winning and competing for trophies, and real aerial prowess in terms of winning duals in both boxes and general play - the latter is something we have to be a bit mindful of I think. Varane, Maguire and Casemiro are comfortably our best headers of the ball. Varane has already left and Maguire won't be a starter (and may well leave himself). It leaves us a little light in the aerial dominance stakes if Casemiro also exits.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
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Be quiet. Idiot.
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What an abusive little man.
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Described yourself so succinctly, Mr Keyboard Warrior! As per usual self awareness is not your forte!
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And yet you are the one being abusive, Plumpy. You need to sort out your anger issues.
Agree with Berba on McT getting sold over Casemiro.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 9 seconds ago
Agree with Berba on McT getting sold over Casemiro.
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Admin, could we get this bookmarked please?
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
On Casemiro vs McTominay...
I'd probably sell McTominay over Casemiro. Firstly, when on some semblance of form, Casemiro is a highly valuable player in a position that isn't easy to find top quality in. He's a specialist defensive midfield player and one of the best around (when fit and in form). He's a player that tends to be at his best when he plays a lot, and last season was the first in his career where he missed a lot through injury. I think he deserves some benefit of the doubt. I'm worried as anyone by the signs he's displayed in his game but our set-up didn't help anyone and as mentioned, his injuries had to be a factor.
Also, for all McTominay's goal scoring exploits, he actually scores less than Casemiro on average (3.6 goals per season versus 5.25 goals per season over the last 8 seasons). If it's someone from midfield who can chip in with a few extra goals, Casemiro actually does it better.
Lastly, losing Casemiro would weaken us in two areas: a player with massive experience at winning and competing for trophies, and real aerial prowess in terms of winning duals in both boxes and general play - the latter is something we have to be a bit mindful of I think. Varane, Maguire and Casemiro are comfortably our best headers of the ball. Varane has already left and Maguire won't be a starter (and may well leave himself). It leaves us a little light in the aerial dominance stakes if Casemiro also exits.
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This is all true, but we’ve also to consider the wage difference and whether the players are content with staying at United.
It wouldn’t be a surprise if the club and Casemiro are both keen to part ways as a priority compared to McTominay.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 9 seconds ago
Agree with Berba on McT getting sold over Casemiro.
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Admin, could we get this bookmarked please?
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I quite often agree with you.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Be quiet. Idiot.
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What an abusive little man.
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Described yourself so succinctly, Mr Keyboard Warrior! As per usual self awareness is not your forte!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And yet you are the one being abusive, Plumpy. You need to sort out your anger issues.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But it does not change the fact you simply described yourself.
Stick to topic.
But it does not change the fact you simply described yourself.
…
I have gone out of my way to cut down on being abusive. You should take my lead.
I think it would be best to get Casemiro’s wages off the books. I’ll happily be proven wrong but I’d be utterly shocked if he finds his form again at this club.
Last season he was atrocious. One of the worst players I’ve seen play regularly in my time watching United.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 39 seconds ago
But it does not change the fact you simply described yourself.
…
I have gone out of my way to cut down on being abusive. You should take my lead.
--
What do you want, a medal? 😂
It's always good to give keyboard warriors a taste of their own medicine.
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
On Casemiro vs McTominay...
I'd probably sell McTominay over Casemiro. Firstly, when on some semblance of form, Casemiro is a highly valuable player in a position that isn't easy to find top quality in. He's a specialist defensive midfield player and one of the best around (when fit and in form). He's a player that tends to be at his best when he plays a lot, and last season was the first in his career where he missed a lot through injury. I think he deserves some benefit of the doubt. I'm worried as anyone by the signs he's displayed in his game but our set-up didn't help anyone and as mentioned, his injuries had to be a factor.
Also, for all McTominay's goal scoring exploits, he actually scores less than Casemiro on average (3.6 goals per season versus 5.25 goals per season over the last 8 seasons). If it's someone from midfield who can chip in with a few extra goals, Casemiro actually does it better.
Lastly, losing Casemiro would weaken us in two areas: a player with massive experience at winning and competing for trophies, and real aerial prowess in terms of winning duals in both boxes and general play - the latter is something we have to be a bit mindful of I think. Varane, Maguire and Casemiro are comfortably our best headers of the ball. Varane has already left and Maguire won't be a starter (and may well leave himself). It leaves us a little light in the aerial dominance stakes if Casemiro also exits.
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This is all true, but we’ve also to consider the wage difference and whether the players are content with staying at United.
It wouldn’t be a surprise if the club and Casemiro are both keen to part ways as a priority compared to McTominay.
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Yea I'd agree with those considerations. If we did sell Casemiro I can't see how we wouldn't go back into the market for another midfield player. ETH doesn't use McTominay deeper in midfield so we'd only have Mainoo, Ugarte and Eriksen at a push who have regularly played deeper in midfield under ETH (and Eriksen was really a solution from within to not getting FDJ).
If we let go of McT I think we could get away with only bringing one midfielder in for now (we need more, but may not be able to solve all the issues in one window), especially if Mount actually stays fit (effectively replacing McT) and maybe there's a young player we can promote into the first team squad (Toby Collyer?) to at least make up the numbers.
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posted on 18/7/24
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wooohooo!
BK, would you prefer him or Neves? PSG will effectively use the Ugarte money to buy João Neves from Benfica! Another player touted as a generational talent, can we afford to keep missing out on this type of player?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be lying if I said I'd watched either of them. What I will say is that profile-wise, Ugarte looks like exactly the kind of midfielder we desperately need within the squad: an aggressive midfield dynamo that snaps into tackles, can recycle the ball cleanly if not spectacularly, plays at a high intensity and can cover a lot of ground and facilitate those around him.
We've needed to improve the athletic profile of the squad and to me Yoro, Zirkzee and Ugarte would certainly do that - all mobile, physical players in the earlier parts of their careers with room to grow and develop.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Middle paragraph sounds like Fred and Herrera.
posted on 18/7/24
Why has it taken 12 years for this club to shape up?
posted on 18/7/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
If we can only flog one of Casemiro or McTominay I’d probably go for McTominay. I know he gets the odd goal but in terms of what he does in midfield he’s completely useless. Casemiro on the other hand could get back to some form and be of use.
Ideally we sell both and bring in 2 CMs who can actually be of use.
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If I had to pick one, it'd be the one with the lowest bid. Not much to pick between either. If the same bid then keep Mactominay, I always feel Casemiro is likely to get sent off, even more so the worse he gets
posted on 18/7/24
Another player touted as a generational talent, can we afford to keep missing out on this type of player?!
…..
Jesus wept. We have quite literally just signed one today.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
If we can only flog one of Casemiro or McTominay I’d probably go for McTominay. I know he gets the odd goal but in terms of what he does in midfield he’s completely useless. Casemiro on the other hand could get back to some form and be of use.
Ideally we sell both and bring in 2 CMs who can actually be of use.
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If I had to pick one, it'd be the one with the lowest bid. Not much to pick between either. If the same bid then keep Mactominay, I always feel Casemiro is likely to get sent off, even more so the worse he gets
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tbf to Casemiro, it seems like his card is always marked by refs before the game begins.
Always picks up yellows for doing sod all, which every single other PL player gets away with.
There was a a spell last season when we had 3 away games at Luton, Villa and Wolves, and Casemiro got 2 yellows and gave away a pen without actually making contact with anyone.
posted on 18/7/24
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
If we can only flog one of Casemiro or McTominay I’d probably go for McTominay. I know he gets the odd goal but in terms of what he does in midfield he’s completely useless. Casemiro on the other hand could get back to some form and be of use.
Ideally we sell both and bring in 2 CMs who can actually be of use.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would Casemiro play second fiddle to Ugarte?! I have my doubts. If and it's a very big if Casemiro miraculously discovers his first season form then it would be win-win as a key area of the pitch would have much needed competition and depth. I have my doubts about Casemiro turning it around, last season was a shocker and I don't want him in a Utd shirt.
McT is useless as a CM but could be useful as an emergency CF when we're chasing goals late in games.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
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Be quiet. Idiot.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
If we can only flog one of Casemiro or McTominay I’d probably go for McTominay. I know he gets the odd goal but in terms of what he does in midfield he’s completely useless. Casemiro on the other hand could get back to some form and be of use.
Ideally we sell both and bring in 2 CMs who can actually be of use.
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Would Casemiro play second fiddle to Ugarte?! I have my doubts. If and it's a very big if Casemiro miraculously discovers his first season form then it would be win-win as a key area of the pitch would have much needed competition and depth. I have my doubts about Casemiro turning it around, last season was a shocker and I don't want him in a Utd shirt.
McT is useless as a CM but could be useful as an emergency CF when we're chasing goals late in games.
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There's "very big ifs" and "if I win the lottery ifs"....... The odds are similar
posted on 18/7/24
Only properly watched Ugarte in the 22-23 season in the tie where Sporting knocked Arsenal out of the Europa League. He excelled in that match. In particular his physicality.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
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Be quiet. Idiot.
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What an abusive little man.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
Only properly watched Ugarte in the 22-23 season in the tie where Sporting knocked Arsenal out of the Europa League. He excelled in that match. In particular his physicality.
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Got sent off didn’t he?
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Be quiet. Idiot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What an abusive little man.
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Described yourself so succinctly, Mr Keyboard Warrior! As per usual self awareness is not your forte!
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
Only properly watched Ugarte in the 22-23 season in the tie where Sporting knocked Arsenal out of the Europa League. He excelled in that match. In particular his physicality.
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Got sent off didn’t he?
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Forgot about that. Only in the 118th minute, with the job done.
posted on 18/7/24
On Casemiro vs McTominay...
I'd probably sell McTominay over Casemiro. Firstly, when on some semblance of form, Casemiro is a highly valuable player in a position that isn't easy to find top quality in. He's a specialist defensive midfield player and one of the best around (when fit and in form). He's a player that tends to be at his best when he plays a lot, and last season was the first in his career where he missed a lot through injury. I think he deserves some benefit of the doubt. I'm worried as anyone by the signs he's displayed in his game but our set-up didn't help anyone and as mentioned, his injuries had to be a factor.
Also, for all McTominay's goal scoring exploits, he actually scores less than Casemiro on average (3.6 goals per season versus 5.25 goals per season over the last 8 seasons). If it's someone from midfield who can chip in with a few extra goals, Casemiro actually does it better.
Lastly, losing Casemiro would weaken us in two areas: a player with massive experience at winning and competing for trophies, and real aerial prowess in terms of winning duals in both boxes and general play - the latter is something we have to be a bit mindful of I think. Varane, Maguire and Casemiro are comfortably our best headers of the ball. Varane has already left and Maguire won't be a starter (and may well leave himself). It leaves us a little light in the aerial dominance stakes if Casemiro also exits.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
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Be quiet. Idiot.
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What an abusive little man.
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Described yourself so succinctly, Mr Keyboard Warrior! As per usual self awareness is not your forte!
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And yet you are the one being abusive, Plumpy. You need to sort out your anger issues.
posted on 18/7/24
Agree with Berba on McT getting sold over Casemiro.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 9 seconds ago
Agree with Berba on McT getting sold over Casemiro.
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Admin, could we get this bookmarked please?
posted on 18/7/24
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
On Casemiro vs McTominay...
I'd probably sell McTominay over Casemiro. Firstly, when on some semblance of form, Casemiro is a highly valuable player in a position that isn't easy to find top quality in. He's a specialist defensive midfield player and one of the best around (when fit and in form). He's a player that tends to be at his best when he plays a lot, and last season was the first in his career where he missed a lot through injury. I think he deserves some benefit of the doubt. I'm worried as anyone by the signs he's displayed in his game but our set-up didn't help anyone and as mentioned, his injuries had to be a factor.
Also, for all McTominay's goal scoring exploits, he actually scores less than Casemiro on average (3.6 goals per season versus 5.25 goals per season over the last 8 seasons). If it's someone from midfield who can chip in with a few extra goals, Casemiro actually does it better.
Lastly, losing Casemiro would weaken us in two areas: a player with massive experience at winning and competing for trophies, and real aerial prowess in terms of winning duals in both boxes and general play - the latter is something we have to be a bit mindful of I think. Varane, Maguire and Casemiro are comfortably our best headers of the ball. Varane has already left and Maguire won't be a starter (and may well leave himself). It leaves us a little light in the aerial dominance stakes if Casemiro also exits.
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This is all true, but we’ve also to consider the wage difference and whether the players are content with staying at United.
It wouldn’t be a surprise if the club and Casemiro are both keen to part ways as a priority compared to McTominay.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 9 seconds ago
Agree with Berba on McT getting sold over Casemiro.
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Admin, could we get this bookmarked please?
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I quite often agree with you.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 second ago
Flog Casemiro to Saudi league this window for a decent sum and get rid of McT during the winter window or next summer.
…….
You need to read the book called “How Football Transfers Work For Dummies.
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Be quiet. Idiot.
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What an abusive little man.
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Described yourself so succinctly, Mr Keyboard Warrior! As per usual self awareness is not your forte!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And yet you are the one being abusive, Plumpy. You need to sort out your anger issues.
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But it does not change the fact you simply described yourself.
Stick to topic.
posted on 18/7/24
But it does not change the fact you simply described yourself.
…
I have gone out of my way to cut down on being abusive. You should take my lead.
posted on 18/7/24
I think it would be best to get Casemiro’s wages off the books. I’ll happily be proven wrong but I’d be utterly shocked if he finds his form again at this club.
Last season he was atrocious. One of the worst players I’ve seen play regularly in my time watching United.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 39 seconds ago
But it does not change the fact you simply described yourself.
…
I have gone out of my way to cut down on being abusive. You should take my lead.
--
What do you want, a medal? 😂
It's always good to give keyboard warriors a taste of their own medicine.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
On Casemiro vs McTominay...
I'd probably sell McTominay over Casemiro. Firstly, when on some semblance of form, Casemiro is a highly valuable player in a position that isn't easy to find top quality in. He's a specialist defensive midfield player and one of the best around (when fit and in form). He's a player that tends to be at his best when he plays a lot, and last season was the first in his career where he missed a lot through injury. I think he deserves some benefit of the doubt. I'm worried as anyone by the signs he's displayed in his game but our set-up didn't help anyone and as mentioned, his injuries had to be a factor.
Also, for all McTominay's goal scoring exploits, he actually scores less than Casemiro on average (3.6 goals per season versus 5.25 goals per season over the last 8 seasons). If it's someone from midfield who can chip in with a few extra goals, Casemiro actually does it better.
Lastly, losing Casemiro would weaken us in two areas: a player with massive experience at winning and competing for trophies, and real aerial prowess in terms of winning duals in both boxes and general play - the latter is something we have to be a bit mindful of I think. Varane, Maguire and Casemiro are comfortably our best headers of the ball. Varane has already left and Maguire won't be a starter (and may well leave himself). It leaves us a little light in the aerial dominance stakes if Casemiro also exits.
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This is all true, but we’ve also to consider the wage difference and whether the players are content with staying at United.
It wouldn’t be a surprise if the club and Casemiro are both keen to part ways as a priority compared to McTominay.
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Yea I'd agree with those considerations. If we did sell Casemiro I can't see how we wouldn't go back into the market for another midfield player. ETH doesn't use McTominay deeper in midfield so we'd only have Mainoo, Ugarte and Eriksen at a push who have regularly played deeper in midfield under ETH (and Eriksen was really a solution from within to not getting FDJ).
If we let go of McT I think we could get away with only bringing one midfielder in for now (we need more, but may not be able to solve all the issues in one window), especially if Mount actually stays fit (effectively replacing McT) and maybe there's a young player we can promote into the first team squad (Toby Collyer?) to at least make up the numbers.
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