On the plus side I thought Maddison looked pretty good, Solanke got in the right positions at least, and Pedro Porro popping up for his goal.
https://youtu.be/Lb7vRdGPqsE?si=0-SB11Hn5UFa3VgI
Ange agrees!
We never looked like scoring after Vardy equalised. We have such a weak mentality. I thought the subs were made way too late as well. Johnson has never performed when starting and Kulu was probably our best performer in pre season. Ange has to take some responsibility.
I only watched the first half. Thought Spurs were sluggish and Leicester poor. Spurs will improve- just looked like the first game came too soon. Be amazed if Leicester survive.
Don’t think we were “sluggish” at all actually.
comment by ambivalent (U22347)
posted 14 minutes ago
We never looked like scoring after Vardy equalised. We have such a weak mentality. I thought the subs were made way too late as well. Johnson has never performed when starting and Kulu was probably our best performer in pre season. Ange has to take some responsibility.
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Well yes, for the late substitutions and for starting BJ over Deki.
At 55 mins I was delighted. We played brilliantly and really should have been out of sight.
The goal and reaction to it was very disappointing. However, overall there is plenty to take away from this game.
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 14 minutes ago
I only watched the first half. Thought Spurs were sluggish and Leicester poor. Spurs will improve- just looked like the first game came too soon. Be amazed if Leicester survive.
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You sure you watched first half was a good performance worthy of being 3 or 4 nil up
Conceded with their first opening after an hour and then heads went. Standard
For a manager who endlessly preaches his attacking philosophy we don't score enough/take enough of the chances we create and don't defend properly.
I like Ange, like listening to him but I dont think theres a cat in hells chance of Spurs winning anything or making top 4 with him in chrage.
The PL is too competitive and teams/ oppo managers are too good/ savvy for his idealistic/ perfect brand football. He fails to recognize the threat and quality of the opposition and plan his tactics accordingly. We've seen it time & again.
We never hammer poor teams/ make hard work of beating them and never look likely or capable of beating teams who are clearly better than us
Either adjust his tactics to the league he now manages in or its only a matter of time until he goes
The truth lays somewhere in between his and Conte's approach..... Some might say his name is Poch ?
Ange just needs to learn to admit that he can be wrong. I genuinely don't think this is going to happen.
Yeah BJ is definitely not better than Kulusevski in my opinion.
Think he’s better coming on late rather than the other way around.
Definitely down to missed chances.
We did this pretty much all last season: play well for 30mins but not score and then fade away.
If you’re going to creat 7,8,9 chances and not take them, it doesn’t matter if they are over a whole game or a 20minute spell - it will come back to bite you.
And to be honest, a team isn’t going to dominate a whole game like we do for for 20-30mins so we need to
convert those chances.
There was some mug on the match thread having a go when I suggested this after 10mins: that we needed to put our chances away or we will fizzle out.
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
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Mainly the positions we get ourselves in that those better teams just score from
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 22 minutes ago
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
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We had 3 shots on goal within the first 5 minutes!
Missing a defensive midfielder.
Opened up too easily.
It was pretty much total.domination. I said to my son we need 2 by HT otherwise anything can happen.
In those situations there's not much more.the coach can say but keep it going...but their managerncan get into them and fire them up. So they had gone in at one nil and a chance at HT to figure things out..
We have to learn to be so clinical and punish teams. They had 1 chance in an hour and scored. We had half a dozen .
Romero switched off for the goal, ball watching and when you watch our defence there is little communication. Romero walks passed Vardy but never looks around or communicates with Porro to make sure there is cover behind him.
So I blame poor finishing and an individual mistake by Romero as the reason, and the latter got the home team and fans all geed up.
Must learn from this.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 22 minutes ago
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
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We had 3 shots on goal within the first 5 minutes!
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I actually missed the first 10 mins so just watched the Sky highlights to see what I missed. 1 or 2 good chances and then some half chances. Solanke's header was the best chance which he should have put away.
It's a theme of Spurs that we are unable to build up leads through dominance, mainly in first halves.
For a manager who endlessly preaches his attacking philosophy we don't score enough/take enough of the chances we create and don't defend properly.
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DiamondLights, yes that's my frustration with this side.
I can give the benefit of the doubt to Solanke, but some others are guilty too.
In all honesty, this team is carrying 2 players who could be subbed and we would not feel their loss. Sonny, is sone of them sadly. He seems to be outside of all actions and gave away the ball in key areas. Their only prominent attack came from Son being casual in his passing and giving the ball away.
BJ is another player we are just carrying. Always runs to the byline and either lose the ball or no end product. Very frustrating to see him given so many chances that are wasted!
For me, Bj need selling on. We have let better players go so why not him?
Do we even practice finishing a move?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 seconds ago
It was pretty much total.domination. I said to my son we need 2 by HT otherwise anything can happen.
In those situations there's not much more.the coach can say but keep it going...but their managerncan get into them and fire them up. So they had gone in at one nil and a chance at HT to figure things out..
We have to learn to be so clinical and punish teams. They had 1 chance in an hour and scored. We had half a dozen .
Romero switched off for the goal, ball watching and when you watch our defence there is little communication. Romero walks passed Vardy but never looks around or communicates with Porro to make sure there is cover behind him.
So I blame poor finishing and an individual mistake by Romero as the reason, and the latter got the home team and fans all geed up.
Must learn from this.
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I agree.
I think the issue is that we’re asking BJ to improve in decision-making, finishing, crossing, taking on his player when he’s never been that good.
Same with Werner.
Solanke gets a pass until Xmas but you’d expect him to have scored one last night. Also, he didn’t look match fit/ready which makes the decision to buy him late on either a punt or just poor management by the club.
Maddison has got the ability and quality it’s his consistency - I think he has the potential to iron that out.
Son - I know we love him, but he’s just not what he was and he’s definitely no captain. We should’ve been making an investment in his replacement and getting them to learn from him this season. We won’t though, we will keep him until he’s 35. And when I say investment, I mean a proper player.
We’ve praised the club for getting rid of the deadwood - rightly so. But we keep buying players that are so obviously going to become deadwood and the cycle continues.
We buy far too many players in the hope one will come good but the rest become deadwood.
Devonshire, I agree with you completely but I think we’re asking players to hit levels they have not shown they can.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 22 minutes ago
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
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We had 3 shots on goal within the first 5 minutes!
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I actually missed the first 10 mins so just watched the Sky highlights to see what I missed. 1 or 2 good chances and then some half chances. Solanke's header was the best chance which he should have put away.
It's a theme of Spurs that we are unable to build up leads through dominance, mainly in first halves.
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A lot of work to be done still.
That goal from them was a defensive disgrace. Leaving the oldest striker in the league alone to head home is criminal at this level.
Weird that some of us were saying i would be an easy win, some quoting 2 or 3-0.
When will we learn this is Spurs, and we tend to make things harder.
The perfect wake up call!
Just need a good striker to finish them off.
Instead you've got the couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo pairing of Richarlison and Solanke.
Same old weak mentality.
They score a goal and spurs cower and hide like wood lice under rocks. Not a leader among them. Banking our chances on kids when our senior players have the backbones of slugs is foolish and will not end well. We needed proper senior first eleven signings this summer and once more they have not been delivered.
If Ange is happy with the summer and thinks we are ready, he will be fired eventually as we cannot okay like this every week.
If he isn’t then he will walk.
Bookmark it.
Our form from Christmas continues. We cannot keep a clean sheet. I have seen nothing to show that will change. No new players and no new tactics.
Yes we have some exciting youngsters, and I’m sure they will make profit in a year or two. But this once great club needs to win something now.
There’s little chance of that on the last 6 months showing.
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posted on 20/8/24
On the plus side I thought Maddison looked pretty good, Solanke got in the right positions at least, and Pedro Porro popping up for his goal.
posted on 20/8/24
https://youtu.be/Lb7vRdGPqsE?si=0-SB11Hn5UFa3VgI
Ange agrees!
posted on 20/8/24
We never looked like scoring after Vardy equalised. We have such a weak mentality. I thought the subs were made way too late as well. Johnson has never performed when starting and Kulu was probably our best performer in pre season. Ange has to take some responsibility.
posted on 20/8/24
I only watched the first half. Thought Spurs were sluggish and Leicester poor. Spurs will improve- just looked like the first game came too soon. Be amazed if Leicester survive.
posted on 20/8/24
Don’t think we were “sluggish” at all actually.
posted on 20/8/24
comment by ambivalent (U22347)
posted 14 minutes ago
We never looked like scoring after Vardy equalised. We have such a weak mentality. I thought the subs were made way too late as well. Johnson has never performed when starting and Kulu was probably our best performer in pre season. Ange has to take some responsibility.
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Well yes, for the late substitutions and for starting BJ over Deki.
posted on 20/8/24
At 55 mins I was delighted. We played brilliantly and really should have been out of sight.
The goal and reaction to it was very disappointing. However, overall there is plenty to take away from this game.
posted on 20/8/24
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 14 minutes ago
I only watched the first half. Thought Spurs were sluggish and Leicester poor. Spurs will improve- just looked like the first game came too soon. Be amazed if Leicester survive.
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You sure you watched first half was a good performance worthy of being 3 or 4 nil up
Conceded with their first opening after an hour and then heads went. Standard
posted on 20/8/24
For a manager who endlessly preaches his attacking philosophy we don't score enough/take enough of the chances we create and don't defend properly.
I like Ange, like listening to him but I dont think theres a cat in hells chance of Spurs winning anything or making top 4 with him in chrage.
The PL is too competitive and teams/ oppo managers are too good/ savvy for his idealistic/ perfect brand football. He fails to recognize the threat and quality of the opposition and plan his tactics accordingly. We've seen it time & again.
We never hammer poor teams/ make hard work of beating them and never look likely or capable of beating teams who are clearly better than us
Either adjust his tactics to the league he now manages in or its only a matter of time until he goes
The truth lays somewhere in between his and Conte's approach..... Some might say his name is Poch ?
posted on 20/8/24
Ange just needs to learn to admit that he can be wrong. I genuinely don't think this is going to happen.
posted on 20/8/24
Yeah BJ is definitely not better than Kulusevski in my opinion.
Think he’s better coming on late rather than the other way around.
posted on 20/8/24
Definitely down to missed chances.
We did this pretty much all last season: play well for 30mins but not score and then fade away.
If you’re going to creat 7,8,9 chances and not take them, it doesn’t matter if they are over a whole game or a 20minute spell - it will come back to bite you.
And to be honest, a team isn’t going to dominate a whole game like we do for for 20-30mins so we need to
convert those chances.
There was some mug on the match thread having a go when I suggested this after 10mins: that we needed to put our chances away or we will fizzle out.
posted on 20/8/24
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
posted on 20/8/24
Tarrico
posted on 20/8/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
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Mainly the positions we get ourselves in that those better teams just score from
posted on 20/8/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 22 minutes ago
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
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We had 3 shots on goal within the first 5 minutes!
posted on 20/8/24
Missing a defensive midfielder.
Opened up too easily.
posted on 20/8/24
It was pretty much total.domination. I said to my son we need 2 by HT otherwise anything can happen.
In those situations there's not much more.the coach can say but keep it going...but their managerncan get into them and fire them up. So they had gone in at one nil and a chance at HT to figure things out..
We have to learn to be so clinical and punish teams. They had 1 chance in an hour and scored. We had half a dozen .
Romero switched off for the goal, ball watching and when you watch our defence there is little communication. Romero walks passed Vardy but never looks around or communicates with Porro to make sure there is cover behind him.
So I blame poor finishing and an individual mistake by Romero as the reason, and the latter got the home team and fans all geed up.
Must learn from this.
posted on 20/8/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 22 minutes ago
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
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We had 3 shots on goal within the first 5 minutes!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I actually missed the first 10 mins so just watched the Sky highlights to see what I missed. 1 or 2 good chances and then some half chances. Solanke's header was the best chance which he should have put away.
It's a theme of Spurs that we are unable to build up leads through dominance, mainly in first halves.
posted on 20/8/24
For a manager who endlessly preaches his attacking philosophy we don't score enough/take enough of the chances we create and don't defend properly.
===================
DiamondLights, yes that's my frustration with this side.
I can give the benefit of the doubt to Solanke, but some others are guilty too.
In all honesty, this team is carrying 2 players who could be subbed and we would not feel their loss. Sonny, is sone of them sadly. He seems to be outside of all actions and gave away the ball in key areas. Their only prominent attack came from Son being casual in his passing and giving the ball away.
BJ is another player we are just carrying. Always runs to the byline and either lose the ball or no end product. Very frustrating to see him given so many chances that are wasted!
For me, Bj need selling on. We have let better players go so why not him?
Do we even practice finishing a move?
posted on 20/8/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 seconds ago
It was pretty much total.domination. I said to my son we need 2 by HT otherwise anything can happen.
In those situations there's not much more.the coach can say but keep it going...but their managerncan get into them and fire them up. So they had gone in at one nil and a chance at HT to figure things out..
We have to learn to be so clinical and punish teams. They had 1 chance in an hour and scored. We had half a dozen .
Romero switched off for the goal, ball watching and when you watch our defence there is little communication. Romero walks passed Vardy but never looks around or communicates with Porro to make sure there is cover behind him.
So I blame poor finishing and an individual mistake by Romero as the reason, and the latter got the home team and fans all geed up.
Must learn from this.
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I agree.
I think the issue is that we’re asking BJ to improve in decision-making, finishing, crossing, taking on his player when he’s never been that good.
Same with Werner.
Solanke gets a pass until Xmas but you’d expect him to have scored one last night. Also, he didn’t look match fit/ready which makes the decision to buy him late on either a punt or just poor management by the club.
Maddison has got the ability and quality it’s his consistency - I think he has the potential to iron that out.
Son - I know we love him, but he’s just not what he was and he’s definitely no captain. We should’ve been making an investment in his replacement and getting them to learn from him this season. We won’t though, we will keep him until he’s 35. And when I say investment, I mean a proper player.
We’ve praised the club for getting rid of the deadwood - rightly so. But we keep buying players that are so obviously going to become deadwood and the cycle continues.
We buy far too many players in the hope one will come good but the rest become deadwood.
Devonshire, I agree with you completely but I think we’re asking players to hit levels they have not shown they can.
posted on 20/8/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 22 minutes ago
I didn't see us create good chance after good chance. I saw one or 2 but not enough to suggest we should have been out of sight. We definitely dominated the play and possession though in spite of that, they still created the 2 best chances of the match.
The way we conceded all that possession in a matter of seconds when they scored and needed to bring on so many players to stop it was worrying. There looked a hint of desperation in bringing on 4 players at once to try and get back in front, which of course we didn't do and didn't really look likely of doing either.
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We had 3 shots on goal within the first 5 minutes!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I actually missed the first 10 mins so just watched the Sky highlights to see what I missed. 1 or 2 good chances and then some half chances. Solanke's header was the best chance which he should have put away.
It's a theme of Spurs that we are unable to build up leads through dominance, mainly in first halves.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 20/8/24
A lot of work to be done still.
That goal from them was a defensive disgrace. Leaving the oldest striker in the league alone to head home is criminal at this level.
Weird that some of us were saying i would be an easy win, some quoting 2 or 3-0.
When will we learn this is Spurs, and we tend to make things harder.
The perfect wake up call!
posted on 20/8/24
Just need a good striker to finish them off.
Instead you've got the couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo pairing of Richarlison and Solanke.
posted on 20/8/24
Same old weak mentality.
They score a goal and spurs cower and hide like wood lice under rocks. Not a leader among them. Banking our chances on kids when our senior players have the backbones of slugs is foolish and will not end well. We needed proper senior first eleven signings this summer and once more they have not been delivered.
If Ange is happy with the summer and thinks we are ready, he will be fired eventually as we cannot okay like this every week.
If he isn’t then he will walk.
Bookmark it.
Our form from Christmas continues. We cannot keep a clean sheet. I have seen nothing to show that will change. No new players and no new tactics.
Yes we have some exciting youngsters, and I’m sure they will make profit in a year or two. But this once great club needs to win something now.
There’s little chance of that on the last 6 months showing.
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