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posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by House - (U17162)
posted 2 minutes ago
10 weeks of this now, guess we'll find out the verdict in January
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It will be in Spring apparently.
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That would make more sense timing wise in prep for next season

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

Conveniently just as the season ends, they win their 5th in a row and Pep jets off into the sunset. It's almost like it's been designed this way having it dragged on like this.

A real dark era for English football. The Lance Armstrong years.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

It's almost like it's been designed this way having it dragged on like this.
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ofc, thats why City refused to cooperate and release documents until the PL had gone to court and the high court judge ordered them to.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 36 minutes ago
Conveniently just as the season ends, they win their 5th in a row and Pep jets off into the sunset. It's almost like it's been designed this way having it dragged on like this.

A real dark era for English football. The Lance Armstrong years.
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This is what PL and its greed deserves .

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

https://x.com/MufcWonItAll2/status/1834298758445551848?t=YYH0qhDhm1oLAmRRecDWwQ&s=19

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

It's actually 130 charges now too isn't it? I'm sure the PL increased it but the 115 has just stuck with everyone.

Send them down to the NW counties league. Cheating rats.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 40 minutes ago
It's actually 130 charges now too isn't it? I'm sure the PL increased it but the 115 has just stuck with everyone.

Send them down to the NW counties league. Cheating rats.
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One can only hope.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

Could this have been a Glazers masterclass all along? Bleed United dry whilst the club down the road was winning everything via cheating. Then, when said cheating club gets its punishment United rise again like the phoenix and take their rightful place at the top of the perch.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

‘Rightful place’

Been there once in about 100 years

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

Diafol, you best throw that one back in, it is a bit of a toddler.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

Huge bite from Vidic as usual

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 10 minutes ago
Diafol, you best throw that one back in, it is a bit of a toddler.
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Haha.

In fairness though if we were going to be crap it's probably the best time to have been crap really.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
Huge bite from Vidic as usual
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I though VC was on about the Perch being quite a smallish fish!

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

Ha maybe actually. Just tends to love posting about me over and over and over. He’ll do it again in a minute

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm very unsure either way.
We live in a free capitalist country, they have broken no laws, they have used their riches to buy success like many before them.
On the other hand football is the peoples sport ,the working man's sport. It was becoming more and more a rich man's play thing or investment.
Working men find it hard to afford.
Thinking back to the days of Ray, Mick and myself it wasn't out of reach.
So the second paragraph is where I stand, so an exemplary punishment should be made.
Sorry Boris, Melts et Al, but it's how I feel.
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Whether they have broken laws or not is what the case is about. They're bound by the laws of the competitions they compete in but more than that if found guilty then they could face charges in regards to laws of the country they compete in, I'd imagine as they'd have been found the have falsified accounts submitted to HMRC.

No idea how you can say they have broken no laws. This is what is to be determined.
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Because using your wealth to buy success is not illegal, but I'm sure they've broken EPL rules. Laws of the country I've no idea, but that's what the charges are about. If it's also illegal then they face a different court and punishment.
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Falsifying accounts is illegal. HMRC could potentially look into this if City are found guilty and the evidence is enough for them to pursue it.
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The falsified accounts would be at the sponsors, not at City. There’s no question the money got to city, it’s the source that’s been questioned.

Hence why it’s a PL investigation and it wasn’t handed over years ago.
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Technically yes but City would still be complicit obviously. Considering some of the evidence, if corroborated, the people requesting the funds knew where it was coming from but requested it show it came from a different source as they weren't allowed to receive more funds from the actual source of the funds.
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Which isn’t illegal at all.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
It's actually 130 charges now too isn't it? I'm sure the PL increased it but the 115 has just stuck with everyone.

Send them down to the NW counties league. Cheating rats.
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Always has been. No idea where 115 came from.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
Huge bite from Vidic as usual
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I though VC was on about the Perch being quite a smallish fish!
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Indeed, Diafol. Some people are very insecure.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 28 minutes ago
Ha maybe actually. Just tends to love posting about me over and over and over. He’ll do it again in a minute
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Don't listen to VC, he's a 🔔🔚

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

Plumpy has just fated again.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
It's actually 130 charges now too isn't it? I'm sure the PL increased it but the 115 has just stuck with everyone.

Send them down to the NW counties league. Cheating rats.
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Always has been. No idea where 115 came from.

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Forget City, Stockport need your support!

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm very unsure either way.
We live in a free capitalist country, they have broken no laws, they have used their riches to buy success like many before them.
On the other hand football is the peoples sport ,the working man's sport. It was becoming more and more a rich man's play thing or investment.
Working men find it hard to afford.
Thinking back to the days of Ray, Mick and myself it wasn't out of reach.
So the second paragraph is where I stand, so an exemplary punishment should be made.
Sorry Boris, Melts et Al, but it's how I feel.
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Whether they have broken laws or not is what the case is about. They're bound by the laws of the competitions they compete in but more than that if found guilty then they could face charges in regards to laws of the country they compete in, I'd imagine as they'd have been found the have falsified accounts submitted to HMRC.

No idea how you can say they have broken no laws. This is what is to be determined.
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Because using your wealth to buy success is not illegal, but I'm sure they've broken EPL rules. Laws of the country I've no idea, but that's what the charges are about. If it's also illegal then they face a different court and punishment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Falsifying accounts is illegal. HMRC could potentially look into this if City are found guilty and the evidence is enough for them to pursue it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The falsified accounts would be at the sponsors, not at City. There’s no question the money got to city, it’s the source that’s been questioned.

Hence why it’s a PL investigation and it wasn’t handed over years ago.
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Technically yes but City would still be complicit obviously. Considering some of the evidence, if corroborated, the people requesting the funds knew where it was coming from but requested it show it came from a different source as they weren't allowed to receive more funds from the actual source of the funds.
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Which isn’t illegal at all.

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I mean nothing you've been alleged to have done is illegal. Illegal means you've broken the laws of the land.

You've not broken any laws of the land by instead alleged to break laws of the game to gain an unfair advantage on the competition.

Unless these questionable payments impact tax then that's different obviously. Hard to tell what's the truth given the mystery about it all.

What's certain is City have definitely been caught out doing something they weren't supposed to. Those emails are smoking guns they will always struggle to explain. If they have burned all those previous documents and forged new ones now it's going to look incredibly suspicious.

Can't see any world where you escape this. It's just whether the punishment actually fits the crime and I suspect it probably won't. Can't see you being relegated as I have always maintained despite my jibes.

I definitely think those 6 early titles will forever be tainted though no matter the outcome.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-united-executive-uses-legal-29927634

Amazing what a good team of lawyers can do

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-united-executive-uses-legal-29927634

Amazing what a good team of lawyers can do
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This is financial doping, not drink driving, Boris!

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm very unsure either way.
We live in a free capitalist country, they have broken no laws, they have used their riches to buy success like many before them.
On the other hand football is the peoples sport ,the working man's sport. It was becoming more and more a rich man's play thing or investment.
Working men find it hard to afford.
Thinking back to the days of Ray, Mick and myself it wasn't out of reach.
So the second paragraph is where I stand, so an exemplary punishment should be made.
Sorry Boris, Melts et Al, but it's how I feel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whether they have broken laws or not is what the case is about. They're bound by the laws of the competitions they compete in but more than that if found guilty then they could face charges in regards to laws of the country they compete in, I'd imagine as they'd have been found the have falsified accounts submitted to HMRC.

No idea how you can say they have broken no laws. This is what is to be determined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because using your wealth to buy success is not illegal, but I'm sure they've broken EPL rules. Laws of the country I've no idea, but that's what the charges are about. If it's also illegal then they face a different court and punishment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Falsifying accounts is illegal. HMRC could potentially look into this if City are found guilty and the evidence is enough for them to pursue it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The falsified accounts would be at the sponsors, not at City. There’s no question the money got to city, it’s the source that’s been questioned.

Hence why it’s a PL investigation and it wasn’t handed over years ago.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Technically yes but City would still be complicit obviously. Considering some of the evidence, if corroborated, the people requesting the funds knew where it was coming from but requested it show it came from a different source as they weren't allowed to receive more funds from the actual source of the funds.
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Which isn’t illegal at all.

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It isn't illegal to knowingly request funds from one source which you know are coming from another and therefore be complicit in falsifying records? It isn't illegal falsifying records stating you're paying one amount to staff but actually pay another hidden amount?

Not sure about that. I'd say HMRC would be interested.

posted 1 week, 1 day ago

comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-united-executive-uses-legal-29927634

Amazing what a good team of lawyers can do
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This is financial doping, not drink driving, Boris!
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How many deaths are there a year due to financial doping?

I'm struggling to find the figures.

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