comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-united-executive-uses-legal-29927634
Amazing what a good team of lawyers can do
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This is financial doping, not drink driving, Boris!
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How many deaths are there a year due to financial doping?
I'm struggling to find the figures.
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Don't conflate the issues. 130 charges relate to financial doping and NOT drink driving.
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
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posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm very unsure either way.
We live in a free capitalist country, they have broken no laws, they have used their riches to buy success like many before them.
On the other hand football is the peoples sport ,the working man's sport. It was becoming more and more a rich man's play thing or investment.
Working men find it hard to afford.
Thinking back to the days of Ray, Mick and myself it wasn't out of reach.
So the second paragraph is where I stand, so an exemplary punishment should be made.
Sorry Boris, Melts et Al, but it's how I feel.
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Whether they have broken laws or not is what the case is about. They're bound by the laws of the competitions they compete in but more than that if found guilty then they could face charges in regards to laws of the country they compete in, I'd imagine as they'd have been found the have falsified accounts submitted to HMRC.
No idea how you can say they have broken no laws. This is what is to be determined.
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Because using your wealth to buy success is not illegal, but I'm sure they've broken EPL rules. Laws of the country I've no idea, but that's what the charges are about. If it's also illegal then they face a different court and punishment.
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Falsifying accounts is illegal. HMRC could potentially look into this if City are found guilty and the evidence is enough for them to pursue it.
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The falsified accounts would be at the sponsors, not at City. There’s no question the money got to city, it’s the source that’s been questioned.
Hence why it’s a PL investigation and it wasn’t handed over years ago.
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Technically yes but City would still be complicit obviously. Considering some of the evidence, if corroborated, the people requesting the funds knew where it was coming from but requested it show it came from a different source as they weren't allowed to receive more funds from the actual source of the funds.
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Which isn’t illegal at all.
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It isn't illegal to knowingly request funds from one source which you know are coming from another and therefore be complicit in falsifying records? It isn't illegal falsifying records stating you're paying one amount to staff but actually pay another hidden amount?
Not sure about that. I'd say HMRC would be interested.
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The first one, no, that isn’t illegal, not for the receiving entity (remember all of the money went from the sponsors to City). Of course it isn’t!
The second one isn’t illegal either. HMRC might well be interested in the image rights payments, but then there’s quite a few clubs actually under investigation for that with HMRC, including United.
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-united-executive-uses-legal-29927634
Amazing what a good team of lawyers can do
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This is financial doping, not drink driving, Boris!
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How many deaths are there a year due to financial doping?
I'm struggling to find the figures.
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Football dies each May because of it.
Come on, fess up, who 1 starred me! Boris was that you?!
i gave u 5 2 ballants out
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 hours, 28 minutes ago
Conveniently just as the season ends, they win their 5th in a row and Pep jets off into the sunset. It's almost like it's been designed this way having it dragged on like this.
A real dark era for English football. The Lance Armstrong years.
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How on earth could it have been designed like this? Bloody conspiracy theories abound nowadays. At least climate change isn't real eh?
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 47 minutes ago
i gave u 5 2 ballants out
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Thanks m8 👍
comment by House - (U17162)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Come on, fess up, who 1 starred me!Boris was that you?!
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I haven't rated it at all, I wasn't going to get involved
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
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12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
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12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
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GILLTY!
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
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12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
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Next week and beyond shall reveal all !
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
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12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
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This, unsurprisingly, wrong
What are the 115 charges against Man City?
Man City are accused of:
54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18.
14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18.
5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18.
7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18.
35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c74j4z10w97o
R u sayin Boris is a utter, utter chidrule?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
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12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
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This, unsurprisingly, wrong
What are the 115 charges against Man City?
Man City are accused of:
54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18.
14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18.
5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18.
7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18.
35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c74j4z10w97o
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Just as worrying, that’s wrong too! Really don’t get why every media outlet is counting it up wrong when the pl statement is still available to all, if they’re counting every regulation in every season that has been alleged to have been breached, then it’s higher than those numbers.
It has been since the start when they got the charges wrong, I’m assuming the 115 came from that initially and everyone just kept running with it.
The EFA shuddagot tje italian countrrpart too do it 4 em
FIGC/Lega Calcio r v efficient in comoarisson
Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 54 charges
Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 14 charges
Failure to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations
-5 charges
Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015/16 to and including 2017/18
7 - charges
Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations from December 2018 - present
35 charges
You know as times gone I’ve kinda softened my hard stance on City
They started behind atleast the top 10. Built a stunning back room organization
Hired primarily the right coach for the right phase of their project. I grew up in Withy and I can tell you what they’ve done not just for the east side, local economy
Forgetting how they turned 80 acres of disgusting abandoned brownfield crap and made it beautiful with grass, wildflower meadows, picnic areas, I swear ion the right day you’d sit out there and you’d forget you’re in Ancoats etc
Or the 6000 homes they agreed to build in east Manchester over the next ten years starting with fave 1 1.2bn quid first 1000 which is already started
The beautiful marina?!
City have barely if at all out spent Chelsea United even Arsenal since he took over
They just built a great org and benefit off that
Antithesis of our methods over same time
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 41 minutes ago
Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 54 charges
Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 14 charges
Failure to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations
-5 charges
Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015/16 to and including 2017/18
7 - charges
Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations from December 2018 - present
35 charges
You know as times gone I’ve kinda softened my hard stance on City
They started behind atleast the top 10. Built a stunning back room organization
Hired primarily the right coach for the right phase of their project. I grew up in Withy and I can tell you what they’ve done not just for the east side, local economy
Forgetting how they turned 80 acres of disgusting abandoned brownfield crap and made it beautiful with grass, wildflower meadows, picnic areas, I swear ion the right day you’d sit out there and you’d forget you’re in Ancoats etc
Or the 6000 homes they agreed to build in east Manchester over the next ten years starting with fave 1 1.2bn quid first 1000 which is already started
The beautiful marina?!
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Agree completely
posted 6 days, 23 hours ago
The verdict will be to punish Everton further despite the fact they have nothing to do with City's hearing
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 9 hours, 53 minutes ago
Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 54 charges
Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 14 charges
Failure to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations
-5 charges
Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015/16 to and including 2017/18
7 - charges
Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations from December 2018 - present
35 charges
You know as times gone I’ve kinda softened my hard stance on City
They started behind atleast the top 10. Built a stunning back room organization
Hired primarily the right coach for the right phase of their project. I grew up in Withy and I can tell you what they’ve done not just for the east side, local economy
Forgetting how they turned 80 acres of disgusting abandoned brownfield crap and made it beautiful with grass, wildflower meadows, picnic areas, I swear ion the right day you’d sit out there and you’d forget you’re in Ancoats etc
Or the 6000 homes they agreed to build in east Manchester over the next ten years starting with fave 1 1.2bn quid first 1000 which is already started
The beautiful marina?!
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I never had a hard stance in the first place but if they've broken the rules everybody is bound by, whilst others followed them, they should be punished accordingly.
Agree they have done things well from a football perspective and that they started behind everyone else, however that has nothing to do with the rules they signed up to and are charged with breaking.
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posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-united-executive-uses-legal-29927634
Amazing what a good team of lawyers can do
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This is financial doping, not drink driving, Boris!
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How many deaths are there a year due to financial doping?
I'm struggling to find the figures.
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Don't conflate the issues. 130 charges relate to financial doping and NOT drink driving.
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm very unsure either way.
We live in a free capitalist country, they have broken no laws, they have used their riches to buy success like many before them.
On the other hand football is the peoples sport ,the working man's sport. It was becoming more and more a rich man's play thing or investment.
Working men find it hard to afford.
Thinking back to the days of Ray, Mick and myself it wasn't out of reach.
So the second paragraph is where I stand, so an exemplary punishment should be made.
Sorry Boris, Melts et Al, but it's how I feel.
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Whether they have broken laws or not is what the case is about. They're bound by the laws of the competitions they compete in but more than that if found guilty then they could face charges in regards to laws of the country they compete in, I'd imagine as they'd have been found the have falsified accounts submitted to HMRC.
No idea how you can say they have broken no laws. This is what is to be determined.
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Because using your wealth to buy success is not illegal, but I'm sure they've broken EPL rules. Laws of the country I've no idea, but that's what the charges are about. If it's also illegal then they face a different court and punishment.
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Falsifying accounts is illegal. HMRC could potentially look into this if City are found guilty and the evidence is enough for them to pursue it.
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The falsified accounts would be at the sponsors, not at City. There’s no question the money got to city, it’s the source that’s been questioned.
Hence why it’s a PL investigation and it wasn’t handed over years ago.
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Technically yes but City would still be complicit obviously. Considering some of the evidence, if corroborated, the people requesting the funds knew where it was coming from but requested it show it came from a different source as they weren't allowed to receive more funds from the actual source of the funds.
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Which isn’t illegal at all.
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It isn't illegal to knowingly request funds from one source which you know are coming from another and therefore be complicit in falsifying records? It isn't illegal falsifying records stating you're paying one amount to staff but actually pay another hidden amount?
Not sure about that. I'd say HMRC would be interested.
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The first one, no, that isn’t illegal, not for the receiving entity (remember all of the money went from the sponsors to City). Of course it isn’t!
The second one isn’t illegal either. HMRC might well be interested in the image rights payments, but then there’s quite a few clubs actually under investigation for that with HMRC, including United.
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-united-executive-uses-legal-29927634
Amazing what a good team of lawyers can do
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This is financial doping, not drink driving, Boris!
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How many deaths are there a year due to financial doping?
I'm struggling to find the figures.
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Football dies each May because of it.
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
Come on, fess up, who 1 starred me! Boris was that you?!
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
i gave u 5 2 ballants out
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 hours, 28 minutes ago
Conveniently just as the season ends, they win their 5th in a row and Pep jets off into the sunset. It's almost like it's been designed this way having it dragged on like this.
A real dark era for English football. The Lance Armstrong years.
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How on earth could it have been designed like this? Bloody conspiracy theories abound nowadays. At least climate change isn't real eh?
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 47 minutes ago
i gave u 5 2 ballants out
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Thanks m8 👍
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by House - (U17162)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Come on, fess up, who 1 starred me!Boris was that you?!
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I haven't rated it at all, I wasn't going to get involved
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
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12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
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12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
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GILLTY!
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
I rest my case
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
----------------------------------------------------------------------
130 charges!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
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Next week and beyond shall reveal all !
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
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Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
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130 charges!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
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This, unsurprisingly, wrong
What are the 115 charges against Man City?
Man City are accused of:
54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18.
14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18.
5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18.
7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18.
35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c74j4z10w97o
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
R u sayin Boris is a utter, utter chidrule?
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ideally a point deducted for each charge. 115 points deducted so even if they win every game they finish on -1 point. It not only relegates them without directly relegating them, but also wastes a season in the process given they would be doomed from day one.
Obviously won't happen but I'd love to see it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently something like this could actually happen if they're found guilty of all charges, according to a football finance expert. 🤞🏻
----------------------------------------------------------------------
130 charges!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
12 charges concern financial matters
103 charges of failing to cooperate.
Considering non of us know what the questions were or who was asking them, only an eejit would assume any guilt there.
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This, unsurprisingly, wrong
What are the 115 charges against Man City?
Man City are accused of:
54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18.
14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18.
5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18.
7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18.
35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c74j4z10w97o
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Just as worrying, that’s wrong too! Really don’t get why every media outlet is counting it up wrong when the pl statement is still available to all, if they’re counting every regulation in every season that has been alleged to have been breached, then it’s higher than those numbers.
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
lol
Whuttamess
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
It has been since the start when they got the charges wrong, I’m assuming the 115 came from that initially and everyone just kept running with it.
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
The EFA shuddagot tje italian countrrpart too do it 4 em
FIGC/Lega Calcio r v efficient in comoarisson
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 54 charges
Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 14 charges
Failure to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations
-5 charges
Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015/16 to and including 2017/18
7 - charges
Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations from December 2018 - present
35 charges
You know as times gone I’ve kinda softened my hard stance on City
They started behind atleast the top 10. Built a stunning back room organization
Hired primarily the right coach for the right phase of their project. I grew up in Withy and I can tell you what they’ve done not just for the east side, local economy
Forgetting how they turned 80 acres of disgusting abandoned brownfield crap and made it beautiful with grass, wildflower meadows, picnic areas, I swear ion the right day you’d sit out there and you’d forget you’re in Ancoats etc
Or the 6000 homes they agreed to build in east Manchester over the next ten years starting with fave 1 1.2bn quid first 1000 which is already started
The beautiful marina?!
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
City have barely if at all out spent Chelsea United even Arsenal since he took over
They just built a great org and benefit off that
Antithesis of our methods over same time
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 41 minutes ago
Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 54 charges
Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 14 charges
Failure to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations
-5 charges
Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015/16 to and including 2017/18
7 - charges
Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations from December 2018 - present
35 charges
You know as times gone I’ve kinda softened my hard stance on City
They started behind atleast the top 10. Built a stunning back room organization
Hired primarily the right coach for the right phase of their project. I grew up in Withy and I can tell you what they’ve done not just for the east side, local economy
Forgetting how they turned 80 acres of disgusting abandoned brownfield crap and made it beautiful with grass, wildflower meadows, picnic areas, I swear ion the right day you’d sit out there and you’d forget you’re in Ancoats etc
Or the 6000 homes they agreed to build in east Manchester over the next ten years starting with fave 1 1.2bn quid first 1000 which is already started
The beautiful marina?!
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Agree completely
posted 6 days, 23 hours ago
The verdict will be to punish Everton further despite the fact they have nothing to do with City's hearing
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 9 hours, 53 minutes ago
Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 54 charges
Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
- 14 charges
Failure to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations
-5 charges
Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015/16 to and including 2017/18
7 - charges
Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations from December 2018 - present
35 charges
You know as times gone I’ve kinda softened my hard stance on City
They started behind atleast the top 10. Built a stunning back room organization
Hired primarily the right coach for the right phase of their project. I grew up in Withy and I can tell you what they’ve done not just for the east side, local economy
Forgetting how they turned 80 acres of disgusting abandoned brownfield crap and made it beautiful with grass, wildflower meadows, picnic areas, I swear ion the right day you’d sit out there and you’d forget you’re in Ancoats etc
Or the 6000 homes they agreed to build in east Manchester over the next ten years starting with fave 1 1.2bn quid first 1000 which is already started
The beautiful marina?!
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I never had a hard stance in the first place but if they've broken the rules everybody is bound by, whilst others followed them, they should be punished accordingly.
Agree they have done things well from a football perspective and that they started behind everyone else, however that has nothing to do with the rules they signed up to and are charged with breaking.
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