comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 24 minutes ago
Levy has turned Tottenham Hotspur Football Club into a footballing irrelevance, all we do is go round and around on Levy`s roundabout of sporting incompetence and failure.
True fans are being turned off by the cost and the clown show ownership, and replaced with tourists and affluent happy clappers.
I actually think Ange would do alright if he had been given the players he actually asked for, but there is no way he asked for a load of not ready kids and Solanke, those are club signings 100%.
Ange is too much of a yes man to complain or kick up a fuss..... a dream manager for Levy after Conte told us all exactly how it is.
This club desperately needs new owners.
Levy out.
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Yes Levy is ultimately to blame, but this is far too simplistic Billy.
It’s not Levy’s fault that we weren’t 4-0 up at half time against Leicester or that we let a geriatric Vardy score.
The whole money/ambition thing - sure that explains lack of trophies, but it doesn’t explain us missing chance after chance against Leicester or our inability to defend a set piece.
I’m all for kicking Levy for the stuff he is truly responsible for, but incorrectly blaming him for certain things undermines the argument
Why do so many fans believe this myth about us playing attractive attacking football. We are boring to watch IMO, passing it sideways on the edge of the box and then whipping crosses to no one. What's the tactic? It's honestly boring and I genuinely don't buy this view around us being pleasing on the eye.
We don't score many goals and lack huge quality all over the park, then defensively we aren't set up at all. We have players good enough to show more about us by being well organised but we look so disorganised it's unreal. There is no real plan, no patterns of play and no discipline in our shape. I'd also say that not 1 player has improved under Ange. If anything, played have got worse under him.
Ange is not the man and has no idea how to turn us around. IMO he is out of his depth and probably knows it.
Could it be that the more Ange has imprinted his style on the team, the more vulnerable and toothless we've become? I mean more possession and more dominance in our play, quite possibly, but less idea about carving teams open and creating good chances. Whereas in the first 10 games when he hadn't had the time to imprint on the players yet, they were playing more instinctively and less through his instruction?
It's a worrying thought.
It’s obvious we lack the personnel to carve teams open.
"Spurs - 15 shots, 5 on target, 0 goals
Arsenal - 7 shots, 4 on target, 1 goal"
No....it was.......
Spurs - 15 shots, 5 at the goalkeeper, 0 goals
Arsenal - 7 shots, 4 above the goalkeeper, 1 goal
If Southgate were manager.....
how would this squad be playing differently?
Who would get to start, who would be dropped?
Would we be lining up 5-4-1?
Would our play look more like Mourinho? Or Conte?
Would Southgate fair any better than Aussieglue?
Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
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comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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And this the problem with Spurs fans, they think their defenders are good and then are shocked when they keep conceding stupid goals.
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Agree there. Romero just because he was part of a world cup winning team is called world class, and he isn't anywhere near. Porro I like going forward, but he is an average defender. Udogie is young and will improve. Micky is the only top defender, but he cannot keep covering for all.
Champions league
Loser fc.
Levy appointed Ange. As he did hoddle, Santini, jol, ramos, rednapp, avb, Poch, Jose, conte etc etc
All of which have been able to return one poxy league cup under enics ‘leadership’
Levy has in that time manage to convince you all to part with the same (and more) money as big football clubs that win things.
He has got you paying for something he doesn’t have to deliver and most of you love him for it and defend him.
Absolute joke of a football club. Run by losers.
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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He's lost 1 player at a corner and switched off to lose Vardy.....tactics? How?
Stop banging on about tactics. They have contributed to 1 of 4 goals in 4 games and that's when all but romero tracked their runners. Basics from him. 3 times lost his man.
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We always switch off from corners - can’t just blame Romero for that. Last season we were blaming Ben White/Nathan Ake/the FA for allowing our keeper to be blocked - other teams did training on it so it didn’t keep happening to them.
It’s all tactical - if Romero goes for a wander like he did against Leicester then someone else covers
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Don't be daft. You are sounding as blinkered as Billy. Not everything is Levys fault and not everything is down to tactics.
Watch that Vardy goal. Romero ball watches and literally runs away from his man, Porro is recovering his position having tried to block the original cross from the other side so he cannot get there in time. And what is worse is that Romero doesn't look around, does communicate or 'hand over' his player to a team mate or even signal that he is. He just ball watches and loses his man. I think it's sarr also in the middle with him, there is no direction or instructions from our lead CB.
To claim that 'if Romero goes wondering then others cover for him" just lacks understanding in situations like this and the Arsenal goal. I can totally accept.it for the Barnes NUFC goal, we didn't really do too much wrong, it was just well executed and finished by them.
For me.our tactics need more variety in our attack, as I mentioned already about playing more to solankes strengths. I don't feel we are losing points due to tactics so more errors and most have come from Romero so far. The Isak goal was a failed press and high line, so possibly tactics but Romero stepped forward while the back 3 retreated. That's a organisation thing, something that should be drilled on the training pitch, so that needs work. But usually when the opposition break the press, the back line drops, not steps forward.
Banging this Ange tactics drum is just way too simplistic
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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He's lost 1 player at a corner and switched off to lose Vardy.....tactics? How?
Stop banging on about tactics. They have contributed to 1 of 4 goals in 4 games and that's when all but romero tracked their runners. Basics from him. 3 times lost his man.
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We always switch off from corners - can’t just blame Romero for that. Last season we were blaming Ben White/Nathan Ake/the FA for allowing our keeper to be blocked - other teams did training on it so it didn’t keep happening to them.
It’s all tactical - if Romero goes for a wander like he did against Leicester then someone else covers
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Don't be daft. You are sounding as blinkered as Billy. Not everything is Levys fault and not everything is down to tactics.
Watch that Vardy goal. Romero ball watches and literally runs away from his man, Porro is recovering his position having tried to block the original cross from the other side so he cannot get there in time. And what is worse is that Romero doesn't look around, does communicate or 'hand over' his player to a team mate or even signal that he is. He just ball watches and loses his man. I think it's sarr also in the middle with him, there is no direction or instructions from our lead CB.
To claim that 'if Romero goes wondering then others cover for him" just lacks understanding in situations like this and the Arsenal goal. I can totally accept.it for the Barnes NUFC goal, we didn't really do too much wrong, it was just well executed and finished by them.
For me.our tactics need more variety in our attack, as I mentioned already about playing more to solankes strengths. I don't feel we are losing points due to tactics so more errors and most have come from Romero so far. The Isak goal was a failed press and high line, so possibly tactics but Romero stepped forward while the back 3 retreated. That's a organisation thing, something that should be drilled on the training pitch, so that needs work. But usually when the opposition break the press, the back line drops, not steps forward.
Banging this Ange tactics drum is just way too simplistic
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Who tactically keeps picking Romero to start games Devon ?
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comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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And this the problem with Spurs fans, they think their defenders are good and then are shocked when they keep conceding stupid goals.
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Agree there. Romero just because he was part of a world cup winning team is called world class, and he isn't anywhere near. Porro I like going forward, but he is an average defender. Udogie is young and will improve. Micky is the only top defender, but he cannot keep covering for all.
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Will be off to Real in the summer - not good enough for us though right Sandee
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comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 24 minutes ago
Levy has turned Tottenham Hotspur Football Club into a footballing irrelevance, all we do is go round and around on Levy`s roundabout of sporting incompetence and failure.
True fans are being turned off by the cost and the clown show ownership, and replaced with tourists and affluent happy clappers.
I actually think Ange would do alright if he had been given the players he actually asked for, but there is no way he asked for a load of not ready kids and Solanke, those are club signings 100%.
Ange is too much of a yes man to complain or kick up a fuss..... a dream manager for Levy after Conte told us all exactly how it is.
This club desperately needs new owners.
Levy out.
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Yes Levy is ultimately to blame, but this is far too simplistic Billy.
It’s not Levy’s fault that we weren’t 4-0 up at half time against Leicester or that we let a geriatric Vardy score.
The whole money/ambition thing - sure that explains lack of trophies, but it doesn’t explain us missing chance after chance against Leicester or our inability to defend a set piece.
I’m all for kicking Levy for the stuff he is truly responsible for, but incorrectly blaming him for certain things undermines the argument
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Levy appoints the managers and Levy buys the players, if they are not good enough that's on him.
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comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 24 minutes ago
Levy has turned Tottenham Hotspur Football Club into a footballing irrelevance, all we do is go round and around on Levy`s roundabout of sporting incompetence and failure.
True fans are being turned off by the cost and the clown show ownership, and replaced with tourists and affluent happy clappers.
I actually think Ange would do alright if he had been given the players he actually asked for, but there is no way he asked for a load of not ready kids and Solanke, those are club signings 100%.
Ange is too much of a yes man to complain or kick up a fuss..... a dream manager for Levy after Conte told us all exactly how it is.
This club desperately needs new owners.
Levy out.
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Yes Levy is ultimately to blame, but this is far too simplistic Billy.
It’s not Levy’s fault that we weren’t 4-0 up at half time against Leicester or that we let a geriatric Vardy score.
The whole money/ambition thing - sure that explains lack of trophies, but it doesn’t explain us missing chance after chance against Leicester or our inability to defend a set piece.
I’m all for kicking Levy for the stuff he is truly responsible for, but incorrectly blaming him for certain things undermines the argument
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Levy appoints the managers and Levy buys the players, if they are not good enough that's on him.
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So if Harry Kane misses an open goal for Spurs that costs us a win in a game - is that the chairman’s fault for buying him?
This is why your view is too simplistic.
If Levy is that omnipotent then every victory is because of him also - so it was Levy’s brilliance back in 2008 that meant we won the league cup.
Who can forget when Levy guided us past Ajax, in the CL to make the final, Levy scoring an improbable hat trick.
Have a day off William
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posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
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That’s true of his career so far - he has his work cut out this time.
All eyes on Wednesday for me - needs a strong line up, we desperately need a win as we have forgotten how to win games.
The league campaign is already dead in terms of title winning miracles - so it comes back to our old friend choice - finish 6th and win faaaack all or finish 12th and try and win a cup - I’d much rather the latter, but I’ve seen this all before.
Next 3 are massive, he has to win them all I think - Cov (A) Brentford (H) Qarabag (H)
3 away on the bounce after that where I fear for Ange
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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He's lost 1 player at a corner and switched off to lose Vardy.....tactics? How?
Stop banging on about tactics. They have contributed to 1 of 4 goals in 4 games and that's when all but romero tracked their runners. Basics from him. 3 times lost his man.
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We always switch off from corners - can’t just blame Romero for that. Last season we were blaming Ben White/Nathan Ake/the FA for allowing our keeper to be blocked - other teams did training on it so it didn’t keep happening to them.
It’s all tactical - if Romero goes for a wander like he did against Leicester then someone else covers
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Don't be daft. You are sounding as blinkered as Billy. Not everything is Levys fault and not everything is down to tactics.
Watch that Vardy goal. Romero ball watches and literally runs away from his man, Porro is recovering his position having tried to block the original cross from the other side so he cannot get there in time. And what is worse is that Romero doesn't look around, does communicate or 'hand over' his player to a team mate or even signal that he is. He just ball watches and loses his man. I think it's sarr also in the middle with him, there is no direction or instructions from our lead CB.
To claim that 'if Romero goes wondering then others cover for him" just lacks understanding in situations like this and the Arsenal goal. I can totally accept.it for the Barnes NUFC goal, we didn't really do too much wrong, it was just well executed and finished by them.
For me.our tactics need more variety in our attack, as I mentioned already about playing more to solankes strengths. I don't feel we are losing points due to tactics so more errors and most have come from Romero so far. The Isak goal was a failed press and high line, so possibly tactics but Romero stepped forward while the back 3 retreated. That's a organisation thing, something that should be drilled on the training pitch, so that needs work. But usually when the opposition break the press, the back line drops, not steps forward.
Banging this Ange tactics drum is just way too simplistic
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Who tactically keeps picking Romero to start games Devon ?
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That's team selection.
I don't think anyone one thinks that having Romero at CB in a back 4 is a tactical decision, it's a decision based on his quality, experience and ability.
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comment by Ras Clar Teta (U22980)
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Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
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That’s true of his career so far - he has his work cut out this time.
All eyes on Wednesday for me - needs a strong line up, we desperately need a win as we have forgotten how to win games.
The league campaign is already dead in terms of title winning miracles - so it comes back to our old friend choice - finish 6th and win faaaack all or finish 12th and try and win a cup - I’d much rather the latter, but I’ve seen this all before.
Next 3 are massive, he has to win them all I think - Cov (A) Brentford (H) Qarabag (H)
3 away on the bounce after that where I fear for Ange
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On paper it's a nice run to get us back on track and a bit of confidence. Don't want to contemplate the fall out if we drop any points in these.
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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He's lost 1 player at a corner and switched off to lose Vardy.....tactics? How?
Stop banging on about tactics. They have contributed to 1 of 4 goals in 4 games and that's when all but romero tracked their runners. Basics from him. 3 times lost his man.
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We always switch off from corners - can’t just blame Romero for that. Last season we were blaming Ben White/Nathan Ake/the FA for allowing our keeper to be blocked - other teams did training on it so it didn’t keep happening to them.
It’s all tactical - if Romero goes for a wander like he did against Leicester then someone else covers
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Don't be daft. You are sounding as blinkered as Billy. Not everything is Levys fault and not everything is down to tactics.
Watch that Vardy goal. Romero ball watches and literally runs away from his man, Porro is recovering his position having tried to block the original cross from the other side so he cannot get there in time. And what is worse is that Romero doesn't look around, does communicate or 'hand over' his player to a team mate or even signal that he is. He just ball watches and loses his man. I think it's sarr also in the middle with him, there is no direction or instructions from our lead CB.
To claim that 'if Romero goes wondering then others cover for him" just lacks understanding in situations like this and the Arsenal goal. I can totally accept.it for the Barnes NUFC goal, we didn't really do too much wrong, it was just well executed and finished by them.
For me.our tactics need more variety in our attack, as I mentioned already about playing more to solankes strengths. I don't feel we are losing points due to tactics so more errors and most have come from Romero so far. The Isak goal was a failed press and high line, so possibly tactics but Romero stepped forward while the back 3 retreated. That's a organisation thing, something that should be drilled on the training pitch, so that needs work. But usually when the opposition break the press, the back line drops, not steps forward.
Banging this Ange tactics drum is just way too simplistic
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Who tactically keeps picking Romero to start games Devon ?
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That's team selection.
I don't think anyone one thinks that having Romero at CB in a back 4 is a tactical decision, it's a decision based on his quality, experience and ability.
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That by your own reckoning is costing us points.
Team selection is of course tactical, are the right personnel playing in our desired system is the absolute basic of tactics.
Should Dragusin be playing instead.
Ange keeps picking Romero despite these errors - is he tactically inept?
football is only easy on the eye when it works
just playing mainly attacking players and having most possession doesnt do it for me if the other team know exactly what to do against us to get a result
its worrying things are not improving, we need a run and to get some momentum together, need to start seeing some consistency and improvement. Ange has said himself that things usually click in his 2nd season, hopefully we can have an opposite sort of season to last season where we are good from October onwards...
he aint gonna drop Romero
dont rate him defensively but we need to find a way to make all the defenders better as a unit
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comment by Ras Clar Teta (U22980)
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Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
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That’s true of his career so far - he has his work cut out this time.
All eyes on Wednesday for me - needs a strong line up, we desperately need a win as we have forgotten how to win games.
The league campaign is already dead in terms of title winning miracles - so it comes back to our old friend choice - finish 6th and win faaaack all or finish 12th and try and win a cup - I’d much rather the latter, but I’ve seen this all before.
Next 3 are massive, he has to win them all I think - Cov (A) Brentford (H) Qarabag (H)
3 away on the bounce after that where I fear for Ange
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On paper it's a nice run to get us back on track and a bit of confidence. Don't want to contemplate the fall out if we drop any points in these.
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I’m not sure going away to Coventry before a slug fest at home to Brentford is a nice run.
Cov have been to Wembley twice in the last couple of years. They scared the shiete out of United last April. It’s a free hit for them and they know all they have to do is sit deep, deny us space, hit us on the counter and get all of their big boys in the box for a corner.
That will be a physical game. Then we play probably the nearest equivalent of Coventry in the Premier league - Brentford will sit back, deny us space, hit us on the counter with Wissa and Mbuemo and then get all their big boys in the box for corners.
Qarabag we will beat comfortably.
It’s going to be tough for Ange this. Then the following week is United (A) Ferencvaros (A) Brighton (A)
Schitt or bust time for Ange
To a degree yes.
But Spurs and Argentina pick Romero because he is a top level defender who is comfortable on the ball and these fit our tactics.
He fits our tactics, he just has switched off 3 times and it's cost us 3 goals. If this was Dier, jeez wlhe would have been driven out of THFC by an angry mob.
I would play Drag vs Coventry with VDV, and Qarabag. May be he can stake a claim.
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Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
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That’s true of his career so far - he has his work cut out this time.
All eyes on Wednesday for me - needs a strong line up, we desperately need a win as we have forgotten how to win games.
The league campaign is already dead in terms of title winning miracles - so it comes back to our old friend choice - finish 6th and win faaaack all or finish 12th and try and win a cup - I’d much rather the latter, but I’ve seen this all before.
Next 3 are massive, he has to win them all I think - Cov (A) Brentford (H) Qarabag (H)
3 away on the bounce after that where I fear for Ange
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On paper it's a nice run to get us back on track and a bit of confidence. Don't want to contemplate the fall out if we drop any points in these.
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I’m not sure going away to Coventry before a slug fest at home to Brentford is a nice run.
Cov have been to Wembley twice in the last couple of years. They scared the shiete out of United last April. It’s a free hit for them and they know all they have to do is sit deep, deny us space, hit us on the counter and get all of their big boys in the box for a corner.
That will be a physical game. Then we play probably the nearest equivalent of Coventry in the Premier league - Brentford will sit back, deny us space, hit us on the counter with Wissa and Mbuemo and then get all their big boys in the box for corners.
Qarabag we will beat comfortably.
It’s going to be tough for Ange this. Then the following week is United (A) Ferencvaros (A) Brighton (A)
Schitt or bust time for Ange
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I expect us to beat Coventry, what with them being a championship side.
But ad with any game this season, where we have averaged over 65% possession overall, it will rely on us making the best of our openings and avoiding defensive errors. Do that and we should progress with out much drama.
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posted on 16/9/24
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 24 minutes ago
Levy has turned Tottenham Hotspur Football Club into a footballing irrelevance, all we do is go round and around on Levy`s roundabout of sporting incompetence and failure.
True fans are being turned off by the cost and the clown show ownership, and replaced with tourists and affluent happy clappers.
I actually think Ange would do alright if he had been given the players he actually asked for, but there is no way he asked for a load of not ready kids and Solanke, those are club signings 100%.
Ange is too much of a yes man to complain or kick up a fuss..... a dream manager for Levy after Conte told us all exactly how it is.
This club desperately needs new owners.
Levy out.
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Yes Levy is ultimately to blame, but this is far too simplistic Billy.
It’s not Levy’s fault that we weren’t 4-0 up at half time against Leicester or that we let a geriatric Vardy score.
The whole money/ambition thing - sure that explains lack of trophies, but it doesn’t explain us missing chance after chance against Leicester or our inability to defend a set piece.
I’m all for kicking Levy for the stuff he is truly responsible for, but incorrectly blaming him for certain things undermines the argument
posted on 16/9/24
Why do so many fans believe this myth about us playing attractive attacking football. We are boring to watch IMO, passing it sideways on the edge of the box and then whipping crosses to no one. What's the tactic? It's honestly boring and I genuinely don't buy this view around us being pleasing on the eye.
We don't score many goals and lack huge quality all over the park, then defensively we aren't set up at all. We have players good enough to show more about us by being well organised but we look so disorganised it's unreal. There is no real plan, no patterns of play and no discipline in our shape. I'd also say that not 1 player has improved under Ange. If anything, played have got worse under him.
Ange is not the man and has no idea how to turn us around. IMO he is out of his depth and probably knows it.
posted on 16/9/24
Could it be that the more Ange has imprinted his style on the team, the more vulnerable and toothless we've become? I mean more possession and more dominance in our play, quite possibly, but less idea about carving teams open and creating good chances. Whereas in the first 10 games when he hadn't had the time to imprint on the players yet, they were playing more instinctively and less through his instruction?
It's a worrying thought.
posted on 17/9/24
It’s obvious we lack the personnel to carve teams open.
posted on 17/9/24
"Spurs - 15 shots, 5 on target, 0 goals
Arsenal - 7 shots, 4 on target, 1 goal"
No....it was.......
Spurs - 15 shots, 5 at the goalkeeper, 0 goals
Arsenal - 7 shots, 4 above the goalkeeper, 1 goal
posted on 17/9/24
If Southgate were manager.....
how would this squad be playing differently?
Who would get to start, who would be dropped?
Would we be lining up 5-4-1?
Would our play look more like Mourinho? Or Conte?
Would Southgate fair any better than Aussieglue?
posted on 17/9/24
Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
posted on 17/9/24
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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And this the problem with Spurs fans, they think their defenders are good and then are shocked when they keep conceding stupid goals.
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Agree there. Romero just because he was part of a world cup winning team is called world class, and he isn't anywhere near. Porro I like going forward, but he is an average defender. Udogie is young and will improve. Micky is the only top defender, but he cannot keep covering for all.
posted on 17/9/24
Champions league
Loser fc.
posted on 17/9/24
Levy appointed Ange. As he did hoddle, Santini, jol, ramos, rednapp, avb, Poch, Jose, conte etc etc
All of which have been able to return one poxy league cup under enics ‘leadership’
Levy has in that time manage to convince you all to part with the same (and more) money as big football clubs that win things.
He has got you paying for something he doesn’t have to deliver and most of you love him for it and defend him.
Absolute joke of a football club. Run by losers.
posted on 17/9/24
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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He's lost 1 player at a corner and switched off to lose Vardy.....tactics? How?
Stop banging on about tactics. They have contributed to 1 of 4 goals in 4 games and that's when all but romero tracked their runners. Basics from him. 3 times lost his man.
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We always switch off from corners - can’t just blame Romero for that. Last season we were blaming Ben White/Nathan Ake/the FA for allowing our keeper to be blocked - other teams did training on it so it didn’t keep happening to them.
It’s all tactical - if Romero goes for a wander like he did against Leicester then someone else covers
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Don't be daft. You are sounding as blinkered as Billy. Not everything is Levys fault and not everything is down to tactics.
Watch that Vardy goal. Romero ball watches and literally runs away from his man, Porro is recovering his position having tried to block the original cross from the other side so he cannot get there in time. And what is worse is that Romero doesn't look around, does communicate or 'hand over' his player to a team mate or even signal that he is. He just ball watches and loses his man. I think it's sarr also in the middle with him, there is no direction or instructions from our lead CB.
To claim that 'if Romero goes wondering then others cover for him" just lacks understanding in situations like this and the Arsenal goal. I can totally accept.it for the Barnes NUFC goal, we didn't really do too much wrong, it was just well executed and finished by them.
For me.our tactics need more variety in our attack, as I mentioned already about playing more to solankes strengths. I don't feel we are losing points due to tactics so more errors and most have come from Romero so far. The Isak goal was a failed press and high line, so possibly tactics but Romero stepped forward while the back 3 retreated. That's a organisation thing, something that should be drilled on the training pitch, so that needs work. But usually when the opposition break the press, the back line drops, not steps forward.
Banging this Ange tactics drum is just way too simplistic
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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He's lost 1 player at a corner and switched off to lose Vardy.....tactics? How?
Stop banging on about tactics. They have contributed to 1 of 4 goals in 4 games and that's when all but romero tracked their runners. Basics from him. 3 times lost his man.
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We always switch off from corners - can’t just blame Romero for that. Last season we were blaming Ben White/Nathan Ake/the FA for allowing our keeper to be blocked - other teams did training on it so it didn’t keep happening to them.
It’s all tactical - if Romero goes for a wander like he did against Leicester then someone else covers
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Don't be daft. You are sounding as blinkered as Billy. Not everything is Levys fault and not everything is down to tactics.
Watch that Vardy goal. Romero ball watches and literally runs away from his man, Porro is recovering his position having tried to block the original cross from the other side so he cannot get there in time. And what is worse is that Romero doesn't look around, does communicate or 'hand over' his player to a team mate or even signal that he is. He just ball watches and loses his man. I think it's sarr also in the middle with him, there is no direction or instructions from our lead CB.
To claim that 'if Romero goes wondering then others cover for him" just lacks understanding in situations like this and the Arsenal goal. I can totally accept.it for the Barnes NUFC goal, we didn't really do too much wrong, it was just well executed and finished by them.
For me.our tactics need more variety in our attack, as I mentioned already about playing more to solankes strengths. I don't feel we are losing points due to tactics so more errors and most have come from Romero so far. The Isak goal was a failed press and high line, so possibly tactics but Romero stepped forward while the back 3 retreated. That's a organisation thing, something that should be drilled on the training pitch, so that needs work. But usually when the opposition break the press, the back line drops, not steps forward.
Banging this Ange tactics drum is just way too simplistic
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Who tactically keeps picking Romero to start games Devon ?
posted on 17/9/24
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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And this the problem with Spurs fans, they think their defenders are good and then are shocked when they keep conceding stupid goals.
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Agree there. Romero just because he was part of a world cup winning team is called world class, and he isn't anywhere near. Porro I like going forward, but he is an average defender. Udogie is young and will improve. Micky is the only top defender, but he cannot keep covering for all.
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Will be off to Real in the summer - not good enough for us though right Sandee
posted on 17/9/24
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comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 24 minutes ago
Levy has turned Tottenham Hotspur Football Club into a footballing irrelevance, all we do is go round and around on Levy`s roundabout of sporting incompetence and failure.
True fans are being turned off by the cost and the clown show ownership, and replaced with tourists and affluent happy clappers.
I actually think Ange would do alright if he had been given the players he actually asked for, but there is no way he asked for a load of not ready kids and Solanke, those are club signings 100%.
Ange is too much of a yes man to complain or kick up a fuss..... a dream manager for Levy after Conte told us all exactly how it is.
This club desperately needs new owners.
Levy out.
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Yes Levy is ultimately to blame, but this is far too simplistic Billy.
It’s not Levy’s fault that we weren’t 4-0 up at half time against Leicester or that we let a geriatric Vardy score.
The whole money/ambition thing - sure that explains lack of trophies, but it doesn’t explain us missing chance after chance against Leicester or our inability to defend a set piece.
I’m all for kicking Levy for the stuff he is truly responsible for, but incorrectly blaming him for certain things undermines the argument
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Levy appoints the managers and Levy buys the players, if they are not good enough that's on him.
posted on 17/9/24
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 7 minutes ago
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comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 24 minutes ago
Levy has turned Tottenham Hotspur Football Club into a footballing irrelevance, all we do is go round and around on Levy`s roundabout of sporting incompetence and failure.
True fans are being turned off by the cost and the clown show ownership, and replaced with tourists and affluent happy clappers.
I actually think Ange would do alright if he had been given the players he actually asked for, but there is no way he asked for a load of not ready kids and Solanke, those are club signings 100%.
Ange is too much of a yes man to complain or kick up a fuss..... a dream manager for Levy after Conte told us all exactly how it is.
This club desperately needs new owners.
Levy out.
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Yes Levy is ultimately to blame, but this is far too simplistic Billy.
It’s not Levy’s fault that we weren’t 4-0 up at half time against Leicester or that we let a geriatric Vardy score.
The whole money/ambition thing - sure that explains lack of trophies, but it doesn’t explain us missing chance after chance against Leicester or our inability to defend a set piece.
I’m all for kicking Levy for the stuff he is truly responsible for, but incorrectly blaming him for certain things undermines the argument
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Levy appoints the managers and Levy buys the players, if they are not good enough that's on him.
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So if Harry Kane misses an open goal for Spurs that costs us a win in a game - is that the chairman’s fault for buying him?
This is why your view is too simplistic.
If Levy is that omnipotent then every victory is because of him also - so it was Levy’s brilliance back in 2008 that meant we won the league cup.
Who can forget when Levy guided us past Ajax, in the CL to make the final, Levy scoring an improbable hat trick.
Have a day off William
posted on 17/9/24
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Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
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That’s true of his career so far - he has his work cut out this time.
All eyes on Wednesday for me - needs a strong line up, we desperately need a win as we have forgotten how to win games.
The league campaign is already dead in terms of title winning miracles - so it comes back to our old friend choice - finish 6th and win faaaack all or finish 12th and try and win a cup - I’d much rather the latter, but I’ve seen this all before.
Next 3 are massive, he has to win them all I think - Cov (A) Brentford (H) Qarabag (H)
3 away on the bounce after that where I fear for Ange
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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He's lost 1 player at a corner and switched off to lose Vardy.....tactics? How?
Stop banging on about tactics. They have contributed to 1 of 4 goals in 4 games and that's when all but romero tracked their runners. Basics from him. 3 times lost his man.
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We always switch off from corners - can’t just blame Romero for that. Last season we were blaming Ben White/Nathan Ake/the FA for allowing our keeper to be blocked - other teams did training on it so it didn’t keep happening to them.
It’s all tactical - if Romero goes for a wander like he did against Leicester then someone else covers
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Don't be daft. You are sounding as blinkered as Billy. Not everything is Levys fault and not everything is down to tactics.
Watch that Vardy goal. Romero ball watches and literally runs away from his man, Porro is recovering his position having tried to block the original cross from the other side so he cannot get there in time. And what is worse is that Romero doesn't look around, does communicate or 'hand over' his player to a team mate or even signal that he is. He just ball watches and loses his man. I think it's sarr also in the middle with him, there is no direction or instructions from our lead CB.
To claim that 'if Romero goes wondering then others cover for him" just lacks understanding in situations like this and the Arsenal goal. I can totally accept.it for the Barnes NUFC goal, we didn't really do too much wrong, it was just well executed and finished by them.
For me.our tactics need more variety in our attack, as I mentioned already about playing more to solankes strengths. I don't feel we are losing points due to tactics so more errors and most have come from Romero so far. The Isak goal was a failed press and high line, so possibly tactics but Romero stepped forward while the back 3 retreated. That's a organisation thing, something that should be drilled on the training pitch, so that needs work. But usually when the opposition break the press, the back line drops, not steps forward.
Banging this Ange tactics drum is just way too simplistic
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Who tactically keeps picking Romero to start games Devon ?
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That's team selection.
I don't think anyone one thinks that having Romero at CB in a back 4 is a tactical decision, it's a decision based on his quality, experience and ability.
posted on 17/9/24
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Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
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That’s true of his career so far - he has his work cut out this time.
All eyes on Wednesday for me - needs a strong line up, we desperately need a win as we have forgotten how to win games.
The league campaign is already dead in terms of title winning miracles - so it comes back to our old friend choice - finish 6th and win faaaack all or finish 12th and try and win a cup - I’d much rather the latter, but I’ve seen this all before.
Next 3 are massive, he has to win them all I think - Cov (A) Brentford (H) Qarabag (H)
3 away on the bounce after that where I fear for Ange
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On paper it's a nice run to get us back on track and a bit of confidence. Don't want to contemplate the fall out if we drop any points in these.
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Could be dumb players. Could be that the manager is telling the players to shoot, rather than overplay it in the final third and risk getting countered because of your shiiiiit defence.
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I don’t even think our defence is that shiiiit individually, I think it’s more to do with the high line and refusal to train defending set pieces.
But taking speculative shots so we’re not countered is faaaa king insane if that is really what is happening
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It’s crap individually and collectively.
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It’s not individually - Romero and VDV walk into the United defence.
Romero will most likely be at Real next year.
He has had a schitt start but he is a great defender as is VDV - the tactics don’t suit Romero at all though in my opinion
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He's lost 1 player at a corner and switched off to lose Vardy.....tactics? How?
Stop banging on about tactics. They have contributed to 1 of 4 goals in 4 games and that's when all but romero tracked their runners. Basics from him. 3 times lost his man.
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We always switch off from corners - can’t just blame Romero for that. Last season we were blaming Ben White/Nathan Ake/the FA for allowing our keeper to be blocked - other teams did training on it so it didn’t keep happening to them.
It’s all tactical - if Romero goes for a wander like he did against Leicester then someone else covers
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Don't be daft. You are sounding as blinkered as Billy. Not everything is Levys fault and not everything is down to tactics.
Watch that Vardy goal. Romero ball watches and literally runs away from his man, Porro is recovering his position having tried to block the original cross from the other side so he cannot get there in time. And what is worse is that Romero doesn't look around, does communicate or 'hand over' his player to a team mate or even signal that he is. He just ball watches and loses his man. I think it's sarr also in the middle with him, there is no direction or instructions from our lead CB.
To claim that 'if Romero goes wondering then others cover for him" just lacks understanding in situations like this and the Arsenal goal. I can totally accept.it for the Barnes NUFC goal, we didn't really do too much wrong, it was just well executed and finished by them.
For me.our tactics need more variety in our attack, as I mentioned already about playing more to solankes strengths. I don't feel we are losing points due to tactics so more errors and most have come from Romero so far. The Isak goal was a failed press and high line, so possibly tactics but Romero stepped forward while the back 3 retreated. That's a organisation thing, something that should be drilled on the training pitch, so that needs work. But usually when the opposition break the press, the back line drops, not steps forward.
Banging this Ange tactics drum is just way too simplistic
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Who tactically keeps picking Romero to start games Devon ?
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That's team selection.
I don't think anyone one thinks that having Romero at CB in a back 4 is a tactical decision, it's a decision based on his quality, experience and ability.
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That by your own reckoning is costing us points.
Team selection is of course tactical, are the right personnel playing in our desired system is the absolute basic of tactics.
Should Dragusin be playing instead.
Ange keeps picking Romero despite these errors - is he tactically inept?
posted on 17/9/24
football is only easy on the eye when it works
just playing mainly attacking players and having most possession doesnt do it for me if the other team know exactly what to do against us to get a result
its worrying things are not improving, we need a run and to get some momentum together, need to start seeing some consistency and improvement. Ange has said himself that things usually click in his 2nd season, hopefully we can have an opposite sort of season to last season where we are good from October onwards...
posted on 17/9/24
he aint gonna drop Romero
dont rate him defensively but we need to find a way to make all the defenders better as a unit
posted on 17/9/24
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Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
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That’s true of his career so far - he has his work cut out this time.
All eyes on Wednesday for me - needs a strong line up, we desperately need a win as we have forgotten how to win games.
The league campaign is already dead in terms of title winning miracles - so it comes back to our old friend choice - finish 6th and win faaaack all or finish 12th and try and win a cup - I’d much rather the latter, but I’ve seen this all before.
Next 3 are massive, he has to win them all I think - Cov (A) Brentford (H) Qarabag (H)
3 away on the bounce after that where I fear for Ange
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On paper it's a nice run to get us back on track and a bit of confidence. Don't want to contemplate the fall out if we drop any points in these.
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I’m not sure going away to Coventry before a slug fest at home to Brentford is a nice run.
Cov have been to Wembley twice in the last couple of years. They scared the shiete out of United last April. It’s a free hit for them and they know all they have to do is sit deep, deny us space, hit us on the counter and get all of their big boys in the box for a corner.
That will be a physical game. Then we play probably the nearest equivalent of Coventry in the Premier league - Brentford will sit back, deny us space, hit us on the counter with Wissa and Mbuemo and then get all their big boys in the box for corners.
Qarabag we will beat comfortably.
It’s going to be tough for Ange this. Then the following week is United (A) Ferencvaros (A) Brighton (A)
Schitt or bust time for Ange
posted on 17/9/24
To a degree yes.
But Spurs and Argentina pick Romero because he is a top level defender who is comfortable on the ball and these fit our tactics.
He fits our tactics, he just has switched off 3 times and it's cost us 3 goals. If this was Dier, jeez wlhe would have been driven out of THFC by an angry mob.
I would play Drag vs Coventry with VDV, and Qarabag. May be he can stake a claim.
posted on 17/9/24
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Postacogalu says he always wins things in the 2nd year
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That’s true of his career so far - he has his work cut out this time.
All eyes on Wednesday for me - needs a strong line up, we desperately need a win as we have forgotten how to win games.
The league campaign is already dead in terms of title winning miracles - so it comes back to our old friend choice - finish 6th and win faaaack all or finish 12th and try and win a cup - I’d much rather the latter, but I’ve seen this all before.
Next 3 are massive, he has to win them all I think - Cov (A) Brentford (H) Qarabag (H)
3 away on the bounce after that where I fear for Ange
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On paper it's a nice run to get us back on track and a bit of confidence. Don't want to contemplate the fall out if we drop any points in these.
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I’m not sure going away to Coventry before a slug fest at home to Brentford is a nice run.
Cov have been to Wembley twice in the last couple of years. They scared the shiete out of United last April. It’s a free hit for them and they know all they have to do is sit deep, deny us space, hit us on the counter and get all of their big boys in the box for a corner.
That will be a physical game. Then we play probably the nearest equivalent of Coventry in the Premier league - Brentford will sit back, deny us space, hit us on the counter with Wissa and Mbuemo and then get all their big boys in the box for corners.
Qarabag we will beat comfortably.
It’s going to be tough for Ange this. Then the following week is United (A) Ferencvaros (A) Brighton (A)
Schitt or bust time for Ange
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I expect us to beat Coventry, what with them being a championship side.
But ad with any game this season, where we have averaged over 65% possession overall, it will rely on us making the best of our openings and avoiding defensive errors. Do that and we should progress with out much drama.
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