comment by The Process (U20671)
posted less than a minute ago
In a way I’m glad it seems to be individual defensive errors costing us now rather than just being rubbish.
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I think we win the possession game which says a lot to me

https://x.com/utdscope/status/1869864281975730567

comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Absolutely fuming. The manager has to take some of this blame. No need to rotate the keeper or Maguire here.

Anyone who thinks this manager does not care look at the subs. He got it wrong and needs to stop the massive rotation
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You make choices for the starting line ups based on how much you care. It’s not h at he doesn’t care, it’s weighing up the competition against others and how the squad needs to be managed.

Any manager cares once the match kicks off, you still hate losing.

Unless you actually think he’s suddenly tonight just thought Lindelof was better than Maguire, or Antony better than Amad etc.
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This is about the best chance we had for a trophy this year.

We need to start on the friont foot Amorim hasnst solved this yet, we start ok but go behind as not enough attacking conviction until we go behind

Gonna use the giving away 4-3 joke for a while

comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson... (U12026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
So far, we’ve seen promising signs in every game. The errors have come from the usual suspects and some players, like Bayındır, who are unlikely to feature again.


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We have way too many average players to sustain his rotational system
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By rotating RA is learning. This season is about experimentation and adjustment. Despite the changes we played well, we simply gifted them 4 goals. We move on.

comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson... (U12026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
So far, we’ve seen promising signs in every game. The errors have come from the usual suspects and some players, like Bayındır, who are unlikely to feature again.


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We have way too many average players to sustain his rotational system
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By rotating RA is learning. This season is about experimentation and adjustment. Despite the changes we played well, we simply gifted them 4 goals. We move on.


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He now knows we have two crao keepers bingo

By rotating RA is learning. This season is about experimentation and adjustment. Despite the changes we played well, we simply gifted them 4 goals. We move on.


They gifted us goals too for Christ sake

The Process when ten hag got sacked Man Utd were 20th for big chance conversion rate and 1st for big chances missed lol. We basically should have scored 20 goals more with someone like Welbeck or Diouf level finishing.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Absolutely fuming. The manager has to take some of this blame. No need to rotate the keeper or Maguire here.

Anyone who thinks this manager does not care look at the subs. He got it wrong and needs to stop the massive rotation
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You make choices for the starting line ups based on how much you care. It’s not h at he doesn’t care, it’s weighing up the competition against others and how the squad needs to be managed.

Any manager cares once the match kicks off, you still hate losing.

Unless you actually think he’s suddenly tonight just thought Lindelof was better than Maguire, or Antony better than Amad etc.
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This is about the best chance we had for a trophy this year.
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All 3 sides left in it would’ve been better than anyone we would need to face in the Europa tbf, but yeah we were already at the later stages.

Winning the league cup won’t make or break if this becomes a good season for Amorim, he took over a shambles half way through and won’t be judged by that, nor should he be

We need actual progression toward becoming a team more capable of competing at the top.

I had zero expectations in terms of results, and if we hadn’t gifted them four goals, we would have won. Let’s not be too harsh on RA or too disheartened. The signs of improvement are clear, and overall, I’m happy.

Just to put it into perspective no side in football history will ever come close to that level of finishing. Just to put it into perspective I believe Haaland could not score for another year and miss big chances every game and still have a better conversion rate than Man Utd under ten hag.😂

comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
I had zero expectations in terms of results, and if we hadn’t gifted them four goals, we would have won. Let’s not be too harsh on RA or too disheartened. The signs of improvement are clear, and overall, I’m happy.
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Some signs some worries but early days

Maguire and Onana I don’t see us conceding 4
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They are words I didn't think I'd ever read

0.67XG for spurs but scored 4

Obvious foul for the 4th not given.

Not overly fussed.

But feck all will be said in the media beyond tonight.

Unlike the Onana/Wolves foul from the 1st game of last season which was still being brought up even a couple of weeks ago.

comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson... (U12026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted less than a minute ago
So far, we’ve seen promising signs in every game. The errors have come from the usual suspects and some players, like Bayındır, who are unlikely to feature again.


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We have way too many average players to sustain his rotational system
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By rotating RA is learning. This season is about experimentation and adjustment. Despite the changes we played well, we simply gifted them 4 goals. We move on.

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It’s about the players learning the system, understanding who is going to work and who isn’t and in which roles, rehab-ing several players, conditioning and fitness (which Amorim has spoken about *a lot*).

He won’t be delighted that we’re out, but he’ll recognise more than anyone that we have far too many games to play at the moment. He’s said we haven’t even had time to work as a full squad on attacking patterns yet, ffs.

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted less than a minute ago
Maguire and Onana I don’t see us conceding 4
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They are words I didn't think I'd ever read
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And worthless

comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Absolutely fuming. The manager has to take some of this blame. No need to rotate the keeper or Maguire here.

Anyone who thinks this manager does not care look at the subs. He got it wrong and needs to stop the massive rotation
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You make choices for the starting line ups based on how much you care. It’s not h at he doesn’t care, it’s weighing up the competition against others and how the squad needs to be managed.

Any manager cares once the match kicks off, you still hate losing.

Unless you actually think he’s suddenly tonight just thought Lindelof was better than Maguire, or Antony better than Amad etc.
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This is about the best chance we had for a trophy this year.
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All 3 sides left in it would’ve been better than anyone we would need to face in the Europa tbf, but yeah we were already at the later stages.

Winning the league cup won’t make or break if this becomes a good season for Amorim, he took over a shambles half way through and won’t be judged by that, nor should he be

We need actual progression toward becoming a team more capable of competing at the top.

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No denying this mate.

But it hurts to be knocked out by these lots. I smell a trophy, my thinking is we should go all in. This trophy was the start for Mourinho. It also gave us a boost under Ferguson after we went through a purple patch. I rate it highly ( unlike others)

comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted less than a minute ago
0.67XG for spurs but scored 4
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Utd's was 2.78

comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Absolutely fuming. The manager has to take some of this blame. No need to rotate the keeper or Maguire here.

Anyone who thinks this manager does not care look at the subs. He got it wrong and needs to stop the massive rotation
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You make choices for the starting line ups based on how much you care. It’s not h at he doesn’t care, it’s weighing up the competition against others and how the squad needs to be managed.

Any manager cares once the match kicks off, you still hate losing.

Unless you actually think he’s suddenly tonight just thought Lindelof was better than Maguire, or Antony better than Amad etc.
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This is about the best chance we had for a trophy this year.
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All 3 sides left in it would’ve been better than anyone we would need to face in the Europa tbf, but yeah we were already at the later stages.

Winning the league cup won’t make or break if this becomes a good season for Amorim, he took over a shambles half way through and won’t be judged by that, nor should he be

We need actual progression toward becoming a team more capable of competing at the top.
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This. I am happy that we have a manager and a few players we can rely on to change a game.

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
Maguire and Onana I don’t see us conceding 4
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They are words I didn't think I'd ever read
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As bad as Onana can be he's not as bad as Bayindir.

Maguire right now is playing much better than Martinez too.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
Absolutely fuming. The manager has to take some of this blame. No need to rotate the keeper or Maguire here.

Anyone who thinks this manager does not care look at the subs. He got it wrong and needs to stop the massive rotation
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Hopefully all this rotation means Ruben is figuring out who should be shown the door.

Rashford, Antony, Eriksen, Lindelof for starters.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Absolutely fuming. The manager has to take some of this blame. No need to rotate the keeper or Maguire here.

Anyone who thinks this manager does not care look at the subs. He got it wrong and needs to stop the massive rotation
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You make choices for the starting line ups based on how much you care. It’s not h at he doesn’t care, it’s weighing up the competition against others and how the squad needs to be managed.

Any manager cares once the match kicks off, you still hate losing.

Unless you actually think he’s suddenly tonight just thought Lindelof was better than Maguire, or Antony better than Amad etc.
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This is about the best chance we had for a trophy this year.
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All 3 sides left in it would’ve been better than anyone we would need to face in the Europa tbf, but yeah we were already at the later stages.

Winning the league cup won’t make or break if this becomes a good season for Amorim, he took over a shambles half way through and won’t be judged by that, nor should he be

We need actual progression toward becoming a team more capable of competing at the top.

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No denying this mate.

But it hurts to be knocked out by these lots. I smell a trophy, my thinking is we should go all in. This trophy was the start for Mourinho. It also gave us a boost under Ferguson after we went through a purple patch. I rate it highly ( unlike others)
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Yeah me too, would hate if long term we became bothered only by getting top 4 etc. Never remember anything other than the trophy wins whether you’re at the game or watching with a mate or relative somewhere, it’s what it’s all about.

Saved me £90 + on cup tickets taken out tmrw