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posted on 5/10/24

One win now since March.

Desperately need someone to turn up and put a positive span on this.

posted on 5/10/24



Don't think even DJ can defend this.

Just listening to O'Neil "that wasn't us". No Gary that's exactly us for most of this season.

posted on 5/10/24

From BBC Sport

“Wolves supporters have voiced their anger after a winless Premier League run extends into the seventh match and deep into October.

A sixth defeat in seven matches was played out in a deserved 5-3 defeat at Brentford as audible boos were heard from the away end after referee Andrew Madley blew his whistle.
The entire squad of players and manager Gary O'Neil went over to the away fans to acknowledge their support after the match to a mixed reception.
O'Neil had faced chants of "you don't know what you're doing" during the match and the ownership were targeted with signing for "we want Fosun out".
Frustation is growing as Wolves remain bottom of the Premier League going into the international break, with questions now being asked by supporters”

posted on 5/10/24

From GON

“There needs to be a rethink around how we go about things”

posted on 5/10/24

Better start thinking asap. Forget Man City, plan for after that.

posted on 5/10/24

To be honest if he's decided a rethink is required, the question has to be "what have you been thinking up to now?"

posted on 5/10/24

We’re going to need 8 or 9 points minimum from the four November matches. The table will look better then.

If we end that month with just 3 or 4 points and no wins then we’re in deep doo doo. 💩

posted on 5/10/24

All he had to do was play 3 at the back at the start of the season. He didn't and we're conceding 3 goals a game.

Nuno played with Kilman, Coady and Saiss and also used Boly in a back 3. Plus that was when Kilman played his best football and was on the verge of an International call up.

Semedo has picked up another Y and now has 3 in 5, not forgetting his 3 match ban at the start of the season for accumulating too many last season. He's not a friggin' RB. We also have RAN, who given the chance to play as a wing back might score more goals. H'es got 2 now from playing I a more forward position.

As for Hwang, I'll leave the for others, as I'm fed up complaining about him.

GON is on thin ice right now. He has a very good squad who don't deserve to be bottom, yet his tactics have put us there.

posted on 5/10/24

Is there a direct correlation between yellow cards and the inability to play in a given position?

If so, then Neves was pretty useless as a defensive midfielder.

I just don’t see this “very good squad”, we have added numbers without adding quality, again.

We don’t have a single defender capable of playing in a back four! That’s pretty incredible really. We’re going to need two Premier League quality CB’s in January, we should have got them in the summer.

The fact that GON continues to play a back four is more incredible than words can fully relate. Maybe Fosun have sold him down the river and he wants out?

posted on 5/10/24

Lemina is a dilemma. I've not seen him have a bad game but he was, by all accounts, poor today and has been on a number of away games. Don't get that, the Mario Lemina I've watched has been a leader who's given his all. Yet away from Molineux he's been pretty ordinary at times.

posted on 5/10/24

I don't understand why Doyle isn't getting any minutes either.

posted on 5/10/24

comment by wolfieinFL (U16306)
posted 6 hours, 11 minutes ago
4 more friggin' goals conceded in a system that just isn't working. You're right Wulfrunnut 20 goals is outrageous and who knows how many more in the second half.

I've heard it many times on here "let's see where we are after 10 games". Well, this is now 7 games and with Man City, Brighton and our worst bogey team, Palace in the next 3 doesn't bode well.

If we're still bottom with 1 point GON has to go. Sorry lads, but the system he's adopted just isn't working. We have to go back to 3 at the back.
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Don't apologise to us. Tam and I and a few others didn't think GON was up to it a year ago. He won us over for a while but it seems our initial feel was correct.

posted on 5/10/24

He has suggested that a return to a back 3 will be considered, but that would mean playing all 3 of our centre backs.

Dawson, Santi Bueno, Toti I guess. Pond our only replacement.

Maybe he's quietly suggesting that not replacing Kilman wasn't a great idea. That point is not directed at the supporters.

posted on 5/10/24

comment by wolfieinFL (U16306)
posted 13 minutes ago
I don't understand why Doyle isn't getting any minutes either.
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Well if we go to a back five he isn't starting ever again.

posted on 5/10/24

Don't think going to a back three is going to improve us much at all. We may not get beat quite as heavy but I don't see how that suddenly fixes us at all.

The evidence suggests GON just isn't very good on the defensive side of things.

Bournemouth conceded 71
Last year we conceded 65

posted on 5/10/24

This year we’re on a path to beating those totals by Christmas

Fosun are the problem here, they’ve got no interest in the football side of things. Their vision for the future is a thing of the past.

I just wish they’d sell up and fack off already.

posted on 5/10/24

Agreed. The big issue is clearly Fosun.

posted on 5/10/24

If we're gonna pull the trigger do it now with international break coming up

posted on 6/10/24

Fosun could quite easily rectify the situation by putting someone who understands the sport in charge of the club. Shi may well be a sound businessman but he hasn't a clue about football. Hobbs appears to have some sporting acumen but he seems to have aligned himself to Jeff and fosun recently and bought in to their deluded strategy.

For me the problem isn't being owned by a multinational corporation, it's the fact that they've put someone in charge who hasn't a clue what he's doing without direction from Jorge Mendes .

posted on 6/10/24

Edwards probably next in would be my guess

posted on 6/10/24

Would take Potter, Conceicao or Moyes. Not sure Fosun would

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted about an hour ago
Edwards probably next in would be my guess
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Sure, let's appoint a manager who's side are 4th from bottom in the Championship.

With the increase in our senior squad I did suggest at the start of the season that we could have some kind of rotation, especially in midfield, as we seem to be overloaded with talent.

posted on 6/10/24

Wouldn't be my choice Wolfie but feeling nothing from the current club climate that suggests we will go for someone better.

posted on 6/10/24

Just watched the long highlights as missed the second half. Jesus. We are completely incapable of defending any ball into the box, primarily from set pieces, that has zero to do with a back four, just horrific defending. Set piece coach the problem here?

Going forward we are actually creating stuff. Midfield is a litt unbalanced probably but hard to drop one of them when all three have offered plenty. Don't see a scenario where we start benching one of them, especially Joao or Andre who we will be looking to make big money on next summer.

posted on 6/10/24

If all we’ve got is lemons, then it’s vital we make lemonade?

We don’t have a single defender capable of playing in a back four. Anyone that thinks Dawson is currently good enough for this league is delusional. Maybe he’s not 100% fit? But he’s all over the place yesterday in what must have been one of his worst games for us.

We could have conceded twelve yesterday quite easily.

Evidently Kilman was the glue that held this shower of Shiite together in recent seasons.

I honestly think that GON wants out now. It’s unbelievable that he keeps playing the same way.

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