comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 12 minutes ago
Dev

You said if farmers put dairy prices up supermarkets would import.

This part was a statement of fact


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In fairness they probably will import more, google made me aware it’s us Paddy’s that are having it away with flooding the UK with milk, not those Frenchies.

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
Dev

You said if farmers put dairy prices up supermarkets would import.

This part was a statement of fact.
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My use of France was an example of another country. I literally could have named anywhere but chose our nearest neighbour.

The point being it will be imported from anywhere that is cheaper.

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kramthered taking the classic arguing position of one having little knowledge, that if you cannot verify your position with irrefutable evidence then your view is cancelled and his 10 minute old google learned knowledge trumps yours.

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Oh do feck off, go back to trying to convince us all that French farmers are queuing up to supply supermarkets in Britain at a loss .

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So much bullsheeet it wouldn't look out of place on a farm, ironically.
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Yep your French milk scenario was 👍

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It was an example, not a statement of fact.

Are you really that simple ?

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Using an example so ridiculous that it would never happen is simple
Google helped me establish that BTW 👍
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You are that simple. Thanks for confirming.

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kramthered taking the classic arguing position of one having little knowledge, that if you cannot verify your position with irrefutable evidence then your view is cancelled and his 10 minute old google learned knowledge trumps yours.

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Oh do feck off, go back to trying to convince us all that French farmers are queuing up to supply supermarkets in Britain at a loss .

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So much bullsheeet it wouldn't look out of place on a farm, ironically.
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Yep your French milk scenario was 👍

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It was an example, not a statement of fact.

Are you really that simple ?

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Using an example so ridiculous that it would never happen is simple
Google helped me establish that BTW 👍
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You are that simple. Thanks for confirming.

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🤣 😂😂 and you told others to grow up, feckin dufus

Lovely to know that you could have picked literally any other country but your learned experience enabled you to use the French.

Who are two of the biggest whiners about it, Clarkson and Dyson; Clarkson has openly admitted he bought his farm for tax reasons, while its pretty obvious Dyson, a vacuum cleaner specialist, and not a farmer, did the exact same.

It seems to be a policy to close a loophole of buying up farmland to exploit the tax system, and it doesn't affect the vast majority of farmers anyway.

They have kicked up more of a stink with this than with the impact of Brexit on their industry.

comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 12 seconds ago
Who are two of the biggest whiners about it, Clarkson and Dyson; Clarkson has openly admitted he bought his farm for tax reasons, while its pretty obvious Dyson, a vacuum cleaner specialist, and not a farmer, did the exact same.

It seems to be a policy to close a loophole of buying up farmland to exploit the tax system, and it doesn't affect the vast majority of farmers anyway.

They have kicked up more of a stink with this than with the impact of Brexit on their industry.
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You sure. Clarkson bought a farm for tax purposes? Makes absolutely no sense at all. He poured money into that. Money he had earned.

As for it only affecting the minority of gamers, the NFU would suggest it’s more like 67% of farms and that the government were badly advised.

Both of them can’t be making numbers up and generally I’d go with the established professionals. Creating not a CV creative “financial expert”.

But therein lies the issue. The farmers and their union want dialogue. The government flatly refuse. Now why would they do that?

That’s dictating and cowardly. It’s certainly not governing

Jeremy Clarkson has he bought the farm so he wouldn't have to pay death duties on land. He also said that he could then pass the farm on to his children.

He has also said: 'Land is a better investment than any bank can offer. The Government doesn't get any of my money when I die. And the price of the food that I grow can only go up. But there is another, much more important reason: I can now have a quad bike.

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You sure. Clarkson bought a farm for tax purposes? Makes absolutely no sense at all. He poured money into that. Money he had earned.
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Yeah. He has openly admitted it several times. Here are a few historic articles where he does as much.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/lisa-hogan-jeremy-clarkson-diddly-squat-farm-b966002.html

https://www.hellomagazine.com/film/20210617115082/jeremy-clarkson-lisa-hogan-diddly-squat-farm-clarksons-farm-spotlight-exclusive/

It's also why he called it Diddly Squat, as that was what he would have to pay in inheritance tax.

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You sure. Clarkson bought a farm for tax purposes? Makes absolutely no sense at all. He poured money into that. Money he had earned.
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Yeah. He has openly admitted it several times. Here are a few historic articles where he does as much.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/lisa-hogan-jeremy-clarkson-diddly-squat-farm-b966002.html

https://www.hellomagazine.com/film/20210617115082/jeremy-clarkson-lisa-hogan-diddly-squat-farm-clarksons-farm-spotlight-exclusive/

It's also why he called it Diddly Squat, as that was what he would have to pay in inheritance tax.


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Ah. Must be honest but I though Diddly Squat was a reference to making no money

All the searches say along these lines

The real name is Diddly Squat Farm, chosen by Clarkson because of its lack of productivity when he took it over. However, bringing in Kaleb Cooper's farm expertise has helped the car enthusiast to begin to turn things around and in season three they will try to make a profit from the areas of woodland by

I read the Diddly Squat thing somewhere, but can't find it now. He 100% bought it for tax reasons though and openly admitted as much for years in interviews.

The Gymshark chap also bought a working farm so he could spend some time relaxing with his Mrs

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 13 minutes ago
I read the Diddly Squat thing somewhere, but can't find it now. He 100% bought it for tax reasons though and openly admitted as much for years in interviews.
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The point is though Clarkson is a celeb farmer.

While he has brought many issues that farmers face to the public attention, he is a man backed by considerable personal wealth and Prime which enabled him to buy his land.

He is far removed from the typical farmer who will be marching on Westminster.

Clarkson farm is about as close as some on here have ever got to the countryside and any knowledge of the rural way of life.

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kramthered taking the classic arguing position of one having little knowledge, that if you cannot verify your position with irrefutable evidence then your view is cancelled and his 10 minute old google learned knowledge trumps yours.

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Oh do feck off, go back to trying to convince us all that French farmers are queuing up to supply supermarkets in Britain at a loss .

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So much bullsheeet it wouldn't look out of place on a farm, ironically.
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Yep your French milk scenario was 👍

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It was an example, not a statement of fact.

Are you really that simple ?

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Using an example so ridiculous that it would never happen is simple
Google helped me establish that BTW 👍
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You are that simple. Thanks for confirming.

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🤣 😂😂 and you told others to grow up, feckin dufus

Lovely to know that you could have picked literally any other country but your learned experience enabled you to use the French.

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As an aside, fack the French but they'd have the tractors choking up the Champs-Elysees getting it right up the metropolitans before now.

Hardcore those French farmers, if British farmers had their gumption the government would pay attention

Marching with toy tractors led by Clarkson and truants just ain’t gonna cut it

The French have no rules...cut they can strike properly

Far-right groups plan to hijack farmers’ protest in London against tax changes

‘Far-right groups are seeking to hijack a farmers’ protest in London against tax changes introduced by the chancellor, Rachel Reeves.

Extremists, including close associates of Tommy Robinson, have been using social media to urge supporters to turn up at the protest on Tuesday, as farming leaders sought to remind those attending of their responsibilities.

The event is being eyed as a major opportunity for exploitation by the far right, who are seeking to promote Jeremy Clarkson as a hero after he claimed the UK government had a “sinister plan” to “ethnically cleanse” farming communities.

The former presenter has become a meme on far-right social media accounts as activists and extremist influencers applauded his comments. Nick Griffin, the former leader of the British National party, posted a picture of himself in the broadcaster’s Oxfordshire pub.

“Jeremy Clarkson nails it,” said Griffin, as he shared Clarkson’s comments.

Paul Thorpe, a far-right YouTuber, published a video message urging his followers to join the protest, stating: “I’ll be there to support our farming community and I hope as many of you patriots will be there too.”’

Uh oh, here we go again

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2024/nov/17/far-right-groups-plan-to-hijack-farmers-protest-in-london-against-tax-changes

comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, R... (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Far-right groups plan to hijack farmers’ protest in London against tax changes

‘Far-right groups are seeking to hijack a farmers’ protest in London against tax changes introduced by the chancellor, Rachel Reeves.

Extremists, including close associates of Tommy Robinson, have been using social media to urge supporters to turn up at the protest on Tuesday, as farming leaders sought to remind those attending of their responsibilities.

The event is being eyed as a major opportunity for exploitation by the far right, who are seeking to promote Jeremy Clarkson as a hero after he claimed the UK government had a “sinister plan” to “ethnically cleanse” farming communities.

The former presenter has become a meme on far-right social media accounts as activists and extremist influencers applauded his comments. Nick Griffin, the former leader of the British National party, posted a picture of himself in the broadcaster’s Oxfordshire pub.

“Jeremy Clarkson nails it,” said Griffin, as he shared Clarkson’s comments.

Paul Thorpe, a far-right YouTuber, published a video message urging his followers to join the protest, stating: “I’ll be there to support our farming community and I hope as many of you patriots will be there too.”’

Uh oh, here we go again

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2024/nov/17/far-right-groups-plan-to-hijack-farmers-protest-in-london-against-tax-changes
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Dont worry. Its a pissy miserable cold day, farmers can handle this because it's what they do, but no other buggger will make the effort

Inheritance tax is the most stupid concept.

Imagine going to work, getting taxed, going to the supermarket in your car that you paid tax on, whilst paying road tax, with petrol that you've paid tax on, getting into the shop buying food that's got tax on it, taking it home...giving it to your kid, and they need to pay tax on it when you hand it to them.

Crazy.

comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, Ruben (U17054)
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Far-right groups plan to hijack farmers’ protest in London against tax changes

‘Far-right groups are seeking to hijack a farmers’ protest in London against tax changes introduced by the chancellor, Rachel Reeves.

Extremists, including close associates of Tommy Robinson, have been using social media to urge supporters to turn up at the protest on Tuesday, as farming leaders sought to remind those attending of their responsibilities.

The event is being eyed as a major opportunity for exploitation by the far right, who are seeking to promote Jeremy Clarkson as a hero after he claimed the UK government had a “sinister plan” to “ethnically cleanse” farming communities.

The former presenter has become a meme on far-right social media accounts as activists and extremist influencers applauded his comments. Nick Griffin, the former leader of the British National party, posted a picture of himself in the broadcaster’s Oxfordshire pub.

“Jeremy Clarkson nails it,” said Griffin, as he shared Clarkson’s comments.

Paul Thorpe, a far-right YouTuber, published a video message urging his followers to join the protest, stating: “I’ll be there to support our farming community and I hope as many of you patriots will be there too.”’

Uh oh, here we go again

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2024/nov/17/far-right-groups-plan-to-hijack-farmers-protest-in-london-against-tax-changes
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They’re just protecting the farmer’s children.

We lived next to a farm growing up and when I was 6, my brother told me to go into the field of cows and chuck a bucket of water over a cow's head. So obviously I did. Then that cow and the whole herd chased me across the field and rammed me through the barbed wire fence back into the garden. Got a massive gash all the way up my thigh. Still have the scares.

The farmer used to bring me baby animals he had found for me to look after. They mostly died.

Then a few years later one of the cows killed the farmer by kicking him in the head.

That was my experience of farming growing up.

comment by Keiran Keane (U1734)
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We lived next to a farm growing up and when I was 6, my brother told me to go into the field of cows and chuck a bucket of water over a cow's head. So obviously I did. Then that cow and the whole herd chased me across the field and rammed me through the barbed wire fence back into the garden. Got a massive gash all the way up my thigh. Still have the scares.

The farmer used to bring me baby animals he had found for me to look after. They mostly died.

Then a few years later one of the cows killed the farmer by kicking him in the head.

That was my experience of farming growing up.
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And that cow grew up to be Liz Truss.

Used to work on a relative's dairy farm in holidays. Great animals cows - so much personality once you get to know each other! But yeah, a herd will gang up no problem.

They had a couple of mating bulls penned for most of the year. One was the most friendly big fvcker you ever got close to. One day in the pen doing his water and was aware something in my peripheral vision and the cvnt was coming right for me. Never seen a standing leap like it right back over the pen wall. Never trust the boys.

Why is that cvnt Farage wearing wellies in London, have they has a lot of snow?