The well renowned smile on his face has been wiped off pretty quickly. He didn't seem happy with Ed Sheeran's appearance and the amount of media commitments in general.

sometimes... winning games is important. More than the style of play at that moment.

Portuguese fluffer. Will be gone in May. 👍

comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
The well renowned smile on his face has been wiped off pretty quickly. He didn't seem happy with Ed Sheeran's appearance and the amount of media commitments in general.
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Surely he can just refuse to do half of them. He said this week's he's spoken more to the media than a whole year at sporting or something.

I think he now realises how big the job is. I feel that he thinks that there is a real lack of football intelligence here, compared to what he has been used to. But that's the test for him, and of course we all hope he passes it He acknowledges he doesn't like all the scrutiny, but he just needs to cope with that also.
No doubt he'll make mistakes, get frustrated at times, but you sense the real belief he has in his ability to get to where he wants, but that it will take time.
It's hard to be patient, but we have no choice but to be so.

comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 6 minutes ago
Portuguese fluffer. Will be gone in May. 👍
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The new André Villas-Boas

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
The well renowned smile on his face has been wiped off pretty quickly. He didn't seem happy with Ed Sheeran's appearance and the amount of media commitments in general.
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Surely he can just refuse to do half of them. He said this week's he's spoken more to the media than a whole year at sporting or something.
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Just part and parcel of being Utd boss - he will learn and realise that.

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
The well renowned smile on his face has been wiped off pretty quickly. He didn't seem happy with Ed Sheeran's appearance and the amount of media commitments in general.
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Surely he can just refuse to do half of them. He said this week's he's spoken more to the media than a whole year at sporting or something.
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He hinted at as much in the interview when he said he did them this week but has spoken to someone (can’t remember the name he said) and from now on he wants to work with his players. I think he was basically saying that he’s done all that was asked in his first week or two but now it’s down to work. Although obviously there will be obligations he has to adhere to.

He's just said something about doing more interviews in a week than he's done in 4 years at Sporting. 😂

Obviously said tongue in cheek but I actually have to agree with him there. The amount of repetition they have to do with the countless media channels is stupid.

This guy really gets it.

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All useless unless he can address it all.

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
sometimes... winning games is important. More than the style of play at that moment.
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Not right now, though.

Compromise was ETH’s downfall, ultimately. Amorim needs to employ his system, employ his standards, and hammer both into the players relentlessly.

Fack the results; he needs to update United, and a large part of that is going to be working out which players suit the roles which need filling, buy in and commit, and which need shipping out.

There’s no point in moderation and compromise to try to create a style of play which better suits the players we have in order to quick-fix results if that ultimately at best delays the project and at worst sees it fail completely.

If the players realise he's not for turning then they have two options. Shape up or accept they'll no longer have a future. For all of these players it won't get any better in terms of size of club and salary.

I think we'll see pretty quickly which players he trusts and which he doesn't really rate in terms of a long term future.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 30 minutes ago
If the players realise he's not for turning then they have two options. Shape up or accept they'll no longer have a future.
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Or 3, get him fired.

@kinsang (U3346)

You could have Pep, Ferguson, Klopp, Tuchel or any other top manager at Man Utd and they will struggle to win games of football. I honestly think we have the worst attack in the history of football. It actually cracked me up when they said ten hag relies on individual brilliance. These players literally the worst finishing team in history of football.

I have been watching Man Utd games from around 1997 and this current strike force is the worst I have seen of any team in football, let alone Man Utd. If I was the Man Utd owner, I would get rid of Garnacho, Rashford, Zirkzee, Mount and even Fernandes. ten Hag was working miracles really, we were creating more than most of our title winning squads to average just over a goal a game after he took the job.

comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
sometimes... winning games is important. More than the style of play at that moment.
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Not right now, though.

Compromise was ETH’s downfall, ultimately. Amorim needs to employ his system, employ his standards, and hammer both into the players relentlessly.

Fack the results; he needs to update United, and a large part of that is going to be working out which players suit the roles which need filling, buy in and commit, and which need shipping out.

There’s no point in moderation and compromise to try to create a style of play which better suits the players we have in order to quick-fix results if that ultimately at best delays the project and at worst sees it fail completely.
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Well United supporters dont want to watch United lose regularly, as we have done...so fack the results aint gonna work. And Amorim has specifically said that he understands that winning games is important... so I expect him to balance this.

Could be a carbon copy of an article after eth's first post match interview

comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
Could be a carbon copy of an article after eth's first post match interview
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Lol this, and remember how HYPED everyone was after Ralf’s first game? When the team was playing at 200% intensity pressing the press of the pressing press press!!

Reserve judgement until much much later. Accept now that he has a MOUNTAIN to climb.

I would say that the way Amorim comes across is more compelling. I think ETH has always struggled to communicate clearly. And he never have a distinctive style of play - all he said was that he didn't have the players to do what he wanted.
Amorim appears different, in that he accepts it's up to him to get the players into his way of thinking but accepts it will take time to do this.
Of course before any new manager there is optimism, but you can be more convinced by some than others.
We won't know until a few months down the road, but it would be disappointing and surprising if there is not a good degree of improvement shown - that is my genuine feeling

The worry is he suggested some things can’t be coached at this level. I’m guessing he means the lack of ability to pass the ball 10 yards or control the thing. Can’t fix that.

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 12 seconds ago
The worry is he suggested some things can’t be coached at this level. I’m guessing he means the lack of ability to pass the ball 10 yards or control the thing. Can’t fix that.
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I think this is the case. He looked genuinely bewildered walking back after the final whistle with what he saw.

kinsang I rank ten hag the best manager we had since SAF by a long way. He was basically managing worse than non-league players at a title level. People will look at XG for and against but a lot of that was corruption against ten hag. I never seen a manager as good as ten hag. He even made De Gea keep the most clean sheets.😂 I think it is on record the fewest saves per clean sheet for a golden glove winner.

I think he was shocked Ganracho screwed up 2 easy chances near start of 2nd half like it is normal. Simple pass as well as a simple finish.

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 12 seconds ago
The worry is he suggested some things can’t be coached at this level. I’m guessing he means the lack of ability to pass the ball 10 yards or control the thing. Can’t fix that.
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I think this is the case. He looked genuinely bewildered walking back after the final whistle with what he saw.
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Surely it's a confidence thing, surely.

He must see these lads in training having the ability to do basic things otherwise they wouldn't be picked.

Reminds me of a quote from a boxer actually that went something like this

'we all train the same, we train as good as one another, but under the lights, in the ring during a fight, it's a different thing altogether"

I know that quote is miles off the actual one but it's almost there

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 9 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 12 seconds ago
The worry is he suggested some things can’t be coached at this level. I’m guessing he means the lack of ability to pass the ball 10 yards or control the thing. Can’t fix that.
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I think this is the case. He looked genuinely bewildered walking back after the final whistle with what he saw.
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The key questions are whether he and his team are able to recognise which players have the capacity to fit the system and can actually be brought up to speed mentally and physically, and whether the sporting hierarchy understands his needs and are able to shift those who don’t/can’t and bring in the right players to fill the gaps over the next five or six windows.