comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted about 10 hours ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 27 minutes ago
Interested to see what Collum has to say about the penalty incident on his wee review programme hing.......coz Bobby Madden is all over X saying it's 100% a pen
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He’s liked a tweet. He’s hardly ‘all over’ Twitter.

What is it with you mad tadgers and exaggerating?!
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He actually put a post up on Instagram himself, saying it's 100% a penalty....which is now being shared all over the place

amazing how he manages to see penalties when it suits him.

Brendan Rodgers record vs Rangers:

Games: 20
Wins: 15
Defeats: 1
Goals Scored: 46

No manager in the history of the Old Firm has a better win record than him.

2024 Scottish League Cup Champions 🏆

He’s not all over Twitter, his post is.

Instagram isn’t twitter.

Refs are the same as everyone else. They have their own opinion. If he says something you agree with, you’ll think he’s some kind of guru. He disagrees with your opinion, he’s just another fud. Even this panel that review decisions don’t always agree with each other.

Scored first for a change
Kept Kyogo relatively quiet
Didn't let McGregor have his usual influence
Won the majority of the midfield battles
Went behind twice and still came back
Felt as if the name was on the trophy

Still fcking lost

We literally cannie buy a win against you bastirts at the minute

Proper sore one to take this one

Cvnts

i;d be curious to know what the reason was for not giving a penalty tbf.

looks like one.

i'd say i don't know how the linesman misses it, but that glmp was making errors all day.

we were poor, rangers pressed us well and we weren't very brave on the ball, really poor midfield in the first half, mcgregor in particular imo.

second half we were better, Hatate seemed to take control the longer the game went on. Took scales coming on to drive into the middle of the park and get the ball forward, inspired substitution tbh.

It's more VAR that I'm concerned with mate...can understand how Beaton doesn't see it's on the line, can understand the linesman not giving it as things are happening outside the box and on the line.....but VAR have a clear view of a foul starting outside the box, continuing while both the defender is in the box and Cerny's foot is on the line, then finishing with Cerny falling over outside the box.

I don't like the idea that the VAR has to disagree with the ref entirely in order for the correct decision to be come to.....fully believe in such instances, if there is a dubiety, the ref should be allowed to see all the angles and make the decision, surely that's the whole point of having the VAR no?

Hate sitting arguing about ref decisions changing games, we did enough to win that game even without that decision going our way, and we still didn't do it

The second goal we gave away was absolutely criminal

VAR only intervenes if it believe the referee has made a clear and obvious error.

You say yourself you understand why the ref and linesman didn’t see it so maybe the panel felt it just wasn’t that much of a “mistake”.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
VAR only intervenes if it believe the referee has made a clear and obvious error.

You say yourself you understand why the ref and linesman didn’t see it so maybe the panel felt it just wasn’t that much of a “mistake”.
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That's the point I'm making

From where Beaton is, he cant see if it is on the line or not. If he sees that, or is made aware of that, perhaps he makes a different call.

Its not about a mistake being made, its about the ref having all the help he can get.

He might look at it and still decide its not a pen...but I think he should have at least have been told to look at it.

If Beaton has been told at any point that Cerny's foot is on the line and he's still said free kick and not a pen, then I cant argue with that

If he hasn't been made aware of that...thats pi$h

The "penalty" was a case of both "at it" both were pulling jerseys so play on

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 43 minutes ago
Scored first for a change
Kept Kyogo relatively quiet
Didn't let McGregor have his usual influence
Won the majority of the midfield battles
Went behind twice and still came back
Felt as if the name was on the trophy

Still fcking lost

We literally cannie buy a win against you bastirts at the minute

Proper sore one to take this one

Cvnts
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That's the best 45 mins I've seen Rangers play against us for a long time mate. You were deserved winners of the first half. Calmac was nullified by Berami, and Rangers kept their shape rigid. Sitting deep, but moving up as a unit, with the front three moving fast to press and counter.

We were fvcking horrible to watch in that half. Our tactics and system were dung. Only CCV seemed to have his usual game.

Second half, it looked bizarrely like the Trusty/Scales sub changed things. And we woke up and started to play. CCV in the 4 vs 1, UNBEFVCKINGLIEVABLE. Yous should've scored.

It didn't look like a pen during the match, maybe it was on reflection. It's happened many a time to us too mate.

Cruel way to get beat, pens always is.

comment by Faither (U3393)
posted less than a minute ago
The "penalty" was a case of both "at it" both were pulling jerseys so play on
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Was a clear foul, only dispute is whether it was a pen or not.

Is it reaching a bit...aye

But the rules are what they are, and they say that if a foul starts outside the box and continues into the box, then a penalty is given....on the line is in the box.

The foul started outside the box.....both players were in the box before it finished....so theres definitely an argument to be made there.

As said last night....interested to hear Collum's take on it

Ah well

These things even themselves out.

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comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's more VAR that I'm concerned with mate...can understand how Beaton doesn't see it's on the line, can understand the linesman not giving it as things are happening outside the box and on the line.....but VAR have a clear view of a foul starting outside the box, continuing while both the defender is in the box and Cerny's foot is on the line, then finishing with Cerny falling over outside the box.

I don't like the idea that the VAR has to disagree with the ref entirely in order for the correct decision to be come to.....fully believe in such instances, if there is a dubiety, the ref should be allowed to see all the angles and make the decision, surely that's the whole point of having the VAR no?

Hate sitting arguing about ref decisions changing games, we did enough to win that game even without that decision going our way, and we still didn't do it

The second goal we gave away was absolutely criminal
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I agree with most of the above. Don't think there is abject bias any more, just some incompetence with occasional dubiety. Remember a cup final is stressful for the ref team too under the microscope all game and did they not say they were trying to speed up decisions this year? Quick decision to agree with the ref's initial assessment then can't go back so easily?

Possible out of Cerny grabbing Scales shirt and we see at corners if this is the case then pens are almost never given no matter if one pulling is worse than the other.

Another possible out depending on the IFAB interpretation guidelines is his direction of travel - did he deem him going across the area rather than into it? IMHO that is a bit flimsy but could be used in defence of the officials.

When did either the whistle blow or Beaton make his mind up to blow - could it be before the step on the line? Has Beaton facked it by being too hasty?

My suspicion is it is just a hasty decision. Technically a pen maybe but we see these decisions in European matches where it is straight letter of the laws and moan that the award is too harsh on hand balls, clashes of heads, guys heading away from goal etc. I wouldn't have complained because shift pulling is an endemic problem that ruins games for me.

It will be interesting to hear Collum's explanation and no doubt more frothing.

Neither side played particularly well though pretty much to form. Hatate lucky to stay on after the break but no way was he hooking both him and Bernardo. Rangers left side were there for the taking and we never pressurised Propper until Engels came on. McCowan would have been in about him too had he been available.

Thought we sought to control it too much with too many side and back which became our downfall instead of embracing the fight and playing higher tempo. Passing accuracy stats back that up but imho we had the quality in tight situations to win that battle had we played that way. MIght not have had the legs for ET right enough?

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 31 minutes ago
It's more VAR that I'm concerned with mate...can understand how Beaton doesn't see it's on the line, can understand the linesman not giving it as things are happening outside the box and on the line.....but VAR have a clear view of a foul starting outside the box, continuing while both the defender is in the box and Cerny's foot is on the line, then finishing with Cerny falling over outside the box.

I don't like the idea that the VAR has to disagree with the ref entirely in order for the correct decision to be come to.....fully believe in such instances, if there is a dubiety, the ref should be allowed to see all the angles and make the decision, surely that's the whole point of having the VAR no?

Hate sitting arguing about ref decisions changing games, we did enough to win that game even without that decision going our way, and we still didn't do it

The second goal we gave away was absolutely criminal
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the header back from Raskin should have been safe, it just happens that we have the road runner in our team,

he's plsh btw, Raskin, like not at all good.

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1. Do NOT sack Big Phil
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3. Demand the Audio
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Rangers look dead in extra time, why diomande was left on as long as he was when he was clearly struggling is anyones guess, could have led to serious injury.

When rangers brought on danilo, desser, dowell, and barron i thought f... thats a lot of energy middle to front against our tiring midfield, but they didn't really inject anything.

unlike your fans, who inject heroine, and liquid pie.

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 56 minutes ago

i'd say i don't know how the linesman misses it, but that glmp was making errors all day.
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Only a throw in I know but that one where CCV hits it off the Rangers player and he gives it the other way right in front of his eyes. Even worse that Beaton or the 4th never saw it either.

dished out a corner for nothing after that as well

cameraman keen to show all the ex rangers players there yesterday, shame we didn't see them once maedas quality penalty went in.

i thought they were all good penalties, even the miss, its just a good save. Except Hagi's, thought kasper should have got that one.

Willie Collum

"After careful review, we agree that John Beaton and his fellow officials got the decision correct. The offence happened outside the penalty area"

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comment by Call Sign: Remember the 453 (U3627)
posted 1 minute ago
It's a great day to be a Celtic fan

Most successful club in Scotland

Cheers to the good guys. Hope you have an amazing week
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You're milking this.

Not the first time you've been told that neither I'd bet!

comment by Faither (U3393)
posted 6 minutes ago
Willie Collum

"After careful review, we agree that John Beaton and his fellow officials got the decision correct. The offence happened outside the penalty area"
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i really want to hear their rationale for this.

class that we still won despite being meh.

I think it was for the actual foul that Scales committed where his leg hit Cerny's then the pulling of jerseys happened. I think Beaton saw that as the foul, VAR looks and notices that the foul (leg) happened first.

comment by Faither (U3393)
posted 11 minutes ago
I think it was for the actual foul that Scales committed where his leg hit Cerny's then the pulling of jerseys happened. I think Beaton saw that as the foul, VAR looks and notices that the foul (leg) happened first.
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That's what I have been reading. Once he gave the foul for the kick then the pull was irrelevant. First foul and whistle blew.