posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Its pointelss talking about tha Qatar bid anyway. We aren't even sure if was real.
We got Jim.... and its going badly. Thats the discussion point of this thread. Harping on about hes better than Qatar or whatever, doesnt change or help fack all about the reality of our situation atm.
I would be worried by the fact that MUFC (who ever they are) are declaring publicly that they are embroiled ina a dire financial situation atm, despite being minority owned by the richest man in the UK who owns a multi-£billion chemical business and has just recently passed all his personal ownership and liabilities into that business.
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That’s an entirely different angle if we’re suggesting the Qatari bid wasn’t a serious one.
Given that Jim was the alternative, he clearly ticked all the right boxes for the Glazers. His proposal favoured their self-interest far more than it benefited the club or its fans. This suggests that Jim conceded so much to win them over that he’s effectively Glazer 2.0, and with the sweeping cuts now taking place, it all starts to make sense.
There doesn’t appear to be a genuine financial crisis, instead, PSR is being used as a convenient excuse to streamline Utd. Meanwhile, the club still maintains a bloated presence at the Sporting executive level. The cynics might argue that while Utd’s turnover remains healthy, costs are eating into profits, and Jim is simply clearing the cost base to ensure the Glazers continue to benefit. It could even be part of a larger strategy for Jim to secure overall ownership in the future.
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
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LOL Berrada has announced personally at the last 2 fans forums that United are in a dire financial situation. Its in the minutes
Make of that what you will.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
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I get what you're saying.
If he is to make such high profile decisions, why does he not buy a majority holding share? He has the money.
That way, his decisions of cost cutting would not indirectly benefit the Glazers. Right now, to the uninitiated, he is the scapegoat if/when this goes wrong.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter what what our board is the best by a mile, it’s never dull.
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Defamatory claims by a puerile idiot is not a form of entertainment though and by repeating his claims you are condoning such claim. Breach of the law is not a laughing matter.
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Quite a lot of stuff not centred on your self indulgent world goes on as well Vengeance, it wasn’t a comment just based on tonight’s small sample
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Like the nonsense you constantly post with all your stooges? Truly enlightening entertainment.
🙄
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Well you have your regular repeated tirade nothing ever new or informative although I did appreciate something you posted the other day about our players not having the stomach to really scrap if we got for real in a relegation battle.
Some of us are are actually pretty smart guys and just take the whole feck up our club is a bit more lightly and enjoy a banter about it, we all cope our own ways Vengeance
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I appreciate your contributions but dislike the inanity and puerility you engage in with your stooges, despite your maturity. Because of that, I often filter you out. It ruins threads and diminishes your value as an intelligent contributor.
I get banter, but some of the nonsense is not even classed as low brow, it's that bad!
Anyway, Frankie, I have no beef with you ☺️
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
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I get what you're saying.
If he is to make such high profile decisions, why does he not buy a majority holding share? He has the money.
That way, his decisions of cost cutting would not indirectly benefit the Glazers. Right now, to the uninitiated, he is the scapegoat if/when this goes wrong.
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would*
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Its pointelss talking about tha Qatar bid anyway. We aren't even sure if was real.
We got Jim.... and its going badly. Thats the discussion point of this thread. Harping on about hes better than Qatar or whatever, doesnt change or help fack all about the reality of our situation atm.
I would be worried by the fact that MUFC (who ever they are) are declaring publicly that they are embroiled ina a dire financial situation atm, despite being minority owned by the richest man in the UK who owns a multi-£billion chemical business and has just recently passed all his personal ownership and liabilities into that business.
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That’s an entirely different angle if we’re suggesting the Qatari bid wasn’t a serious one.
Given that Jim was the alternative, he clearly ticked all the right boxes for the Glazers. His proposal favoured their self-interest far more than it benefited the club or its fans. This suggests that Jim conceded so much to win them over that he’s effectively Glazer 2.0, and with the sweeping cuts now taking place, it all starts to make sense.
There doesn’t appear to be a genuine financial crisis, instead, PSR is being used as a convenient excuse to streamline Utd. Meanwhile, the club still maintains a bloated presence at the Sporting executive level. The cynics might argue that while Utd’s turnover remains healthy, costs are eating into profits, and Jim is simply clearing the cost base to ensure the Glazers continue to benefit. It could even be part of a larger strategy for Jim to secure overall ownership in the future.
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
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LOL Berrada has announced personally at the last 2 fans forums that United are in a dire financial situation. Its in the minutes
Make of that what you will.
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Berrada is a Jimmy puppet ? 🤔
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
whats a Jimmy puppet?
this is getting tedious
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
and who are Frankos stooges
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
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I get what you're saying.
If he is to make such high profile decisions, why does he not buy a majority holding share? He has the money.
That way, his decisions of cost cutting would not indirectly benefit the Glazers. Right now, to the uninitiated, he is the scapegoat if/when this goes wrong.
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He’s worth around £12bn, but you’d think he was struggling financially. He claims to be a Utd fan, yet the way he’s going about things makes it seem like he’s an agent for a rival, working to weaken us from within. Maybe that’s a bit harsh, considering the sporting operation is still in its infancy, but he and his team are getting the big decisions wrong and alienating the very people he needs on his side — the fans!
As a minority stakeholder managing a small part of the club, Jim is clearly being used by the Glazers as a shield to deflect criticism. In reality, the root of the problem is the Glazers themselves, their refusal to sell and let go to an outright buyer is what’s dragging the club down.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
and who are Frankos stooges
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Pun, Cleverson, Baz t*rd.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter what what our board is the best by a mile, it’s never dull.
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Defamatory claims by a puerile idiot is not a form of entertainment though and by repeating his claims you are condoning such claim. Breach of the law is not a laughing matter.
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Quite a lot of stuff not centred on your self indulgent world goes on as well Vengeance, it wasn’t a comment just based on tonight’s small sample
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Like the nonsense you constantly post with all your stooges? Truly enlightening entertainment.
🙄
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Well you have your regular repeated tirade nothing ever new or informative although I did appreciate something you posted the other day about our players not having the stomach to really scrap if we got for real in a relegation battle.
Some of us are are actually pretty smart guys and just take the whole feck up our club is a bit more lightly and enjoy a banter about it, we all cope our own ways Vengeance
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I appreciate your contributions but dislike the inanity and puerility you engage in with your stooges, despite your maturity. Because of that, I often filter you out. It ruins threads and diminishes your value as an intelligent contributor.
I get banter, but some of the nonsense is not even classed as low brow, it's that bad!
Anyway, Frankie, I have no beef with you ☺️
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I always had time for your posts but I would admit I did filter you once. You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying.
Now, for an imbecile like Stupidson, I completely get it.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 17 minutes ago
There's been way too many negative stories now with INEOS
- Womens team being decimated again after making positive strides and finally winning a trophy
- Staff redundancies
- Fergie role being taken away
- ETH fiasco
- Dan Ashworth fiasco
- Ticket Price fiasco
- Christmas party cancelled
- Bonuses more than halved for background staff
- Now the Charity being cut off
Yeah this isn't at all what we signed up for and what we wanted. He's every bit as bad as the Glazers sadly and I hoped he wouldn't be.
If these cuts don't lead to relative success in the next 12-18 months then what was the point? A lot of our players earn £40k in a day or every 2 days so it's just anothet PR disaster.
What's worse is this is all being done whilst he's still not bought out the Glazers so it's a double whammy.
The whole club is just one depressing story after another at the moment. No wonder morale is at an all time low.
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This wouldn’t be happening under the Qatar ownership.
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It probably wouldn't VC and tbh the main argument for me not wanting Qatar was the morally bankrupt element.
However Jim seems to be taking care of the morally bankrupt element anyway so it's getting harder and harder to justify them over Qatar now.
Wanted to believe he'd be different to the parasites. Already convinced he's not.
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Since when were football fans, especially those from colonising countries, qualified to judge others on morality? It's a laughable stance given our own colourful history on the world stage, SE85. Even more laughable how we are willing to support a war criminal in Israel while Palestine is razed to the ground defenceless. Where's your morality? You should take a moment to reflect and engage in deeper thought before making such lofty claims.
Our country, across every sector driving the economy, is heavily reliant on Middle Eastern investment. If they were to divest, the impact would cripple us.
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It isn’t a laughable stance for those who have consistently challenged human rights abuses whenever and wherever they have occurred, is it?
I mean, tens of thousands of people turned out in Manchester to protest even before the Iraq War started. Tens of thousands have been out protesting against Netanyahu’s genocide in Gaza in recent months.
There are an awful lot of Manchester United fans - in Manchester, across the country, and beyond - opposed to seeing their club used as a sports washing vehicle by a brutal regime, who at the same time have also protested and campaigned loudly and consistently against their own (and other) countries’ governments, militaries, companies and other institutions involved in human rights abuses.
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The moral argument on human rights abuses is fair and Middle Eastern countries have a long way to go to meet the same standards of the West.
The reality is that Utd, like many other clubs, already operates within a global system that relies on Middle Eastern money. We’re not really in a position to separate the club from that system without completely isolating it. Middle Eastern investment is deeply woven into sports, media, and business worldwide, and Utd, like many others, benefits from these connections.
To truly disassociate, we’d have to step away from the entire system, something that’s not feasible or realistic in today’s world.
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Rather bland word salad.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 17 minutes ago
There's been way too many negative stories now with INEOS
- Womens team being decimated again after making positive strides and finally winning a trophy
- Staff redundancies
- Fergie role being taken away
- ETH fiasco
- Dan Ashworth fiasco
- Ticket Price fiasco
- Christmas party cancelled
- Bonuses more than halved for background staff
- Now the Charity being cut off
Yeah this isn't at all what we signed up for and what we wanted. He's every bit as bad as the Glazers sadly and I hoped he wouldn't be.
If these cuts don't lead to relative success in the next 12-18 months then what was the point? A lot of our players earn £40k in a day or every 2 days so it's just anothet PR disaster.
What's worse is this is all being done whilst he's still not bought out the Glazers so it's a double whammy.
The whole club is just one depressing story after another at the moment. No wonder morale is at an all time low.
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This wouldn’t be happening under the Qatar ownership.
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It probably wouldn't VC and tbh the main argument for me not wanting Qatar was the morally bankrupt element.
However Jim seems to be taking care of the morally bankrupt element anyway so it's getting harder and harder to justify them over Qatar now.
Wanted to believe he'd be different to the parasites. Already convinced he's not.
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Since when were football fans, especially those from colonising countries, qualified to judge others on morality? It's a laughable stance given our own colourful history on the world stage, SE85. Even more laughable how we are willing to support a war criminal in Israel while Palestine is razed to the ground defenceless. Where's your morality? You should take a moment to reflect and engage in deeper thought before making such lofty claims.
Our country, across every sector driving the economy, is heavily reliant on Middle Eastern investment. If they were to divest, the impact would cripple us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a laughable stance for those who have consistently challenged human rights abuses whenever and wherever they have occurred, is it?
I mean, tens of thousands of people turned out in Manchester to protest even before the Iraq War started. Tens of thousands have been out protesting against Netanyahu’s genocide in Gaza in recent months.
There are an awful lot of Manchester United fans - in Manchester, across the country, and beyond - opposed to seeing their club used as a sports washing vehicle by a brutal regime, who at the same time have also protested and campaigned loudly and consistently against their own (and other) countries’ governments, militaries, companies and other institutions involved in human rights abuses.
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The moral argument on human rights abuses is fair and Middle Eastern countries have a long way to go to meet the same standards of the West.
The reality is that Utd, like many other clubs, already operates within a global system that relies on Middle Eastern money. We’re not really in a position to separate the club from that system without completely isolating it. Middle Eastern investment is deeply woven into sports, media, and business worldwide, and Utd, like many others, benefits from these connections.
To truly disassociate, we’d have to step away from the entire system, something that’s not feasible or realistic in today’s world.
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Rather bland word salad.
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If you say so.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter what what our board is the best by a mile, it’s never dull.
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Defamatory claims by a puerile idiot is not a form of entertainment though and by repeating his claims you are condoning such claim. Breach of the law is not a laughing matter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quite a lot of stuff not centred on your self indulgent world goes on as well Vengeance, it wasn’t a comment just based on tonight’s small sample
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Like the nonsense you constantly post with all your stooges? Truly enlightening entertainment.
🙄
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well you have your regular repeated tirade nothing ever new or informative although I did appreciate something you posted the other day about our players not having the stomach to really scrap if we got for real in a relegation battle.
Some of us are are actually pretty smart guys and just take the whole feck up our club is a bit more lightly and enjoy a banter about it, we all cope our own ways Vengeance
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I appreciate your contributions but dislike the inanity and puerility you engage in with your stooges, despite your maturity. Because of that, I often filter you out. It ruins threads and diminishes your value as an intelligent contributor.
I get banter, but some of the nonsense is not even classed as low brow, it's that bad!
Anyway, Frankie, I have no beef with you ☺️
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I always had time for your posts but I would admit I did filter you once. You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying.
Now, for an imbecile like Stupidson, I completely get it.
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"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
Oh, the irony, Scholay! 🤣
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter what what our board is the best by a mile, it’s never dull.
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Defamatory claims by a puerile idiot is not a form of entertainment though and by repeating his claims you are condoning such claim. Breach of the law is not a laughing matter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quite a lot of stuff not centred on your self indulgent world goes on as well Vengeance, it wasn’t a comment just based on tonight’s small sample
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like the nonsense you constantly post with all your stooges? Truly enlightening entertainment.
🙄
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well you have your regular repeated tirade nothing ever new or informative although I did appreciate something you posted the other day about our players not having the stomach to really scrap if we got for real in a relegation battle.
Some of us are are actually pretty smart guys and just take the whole feck up our club is a bit more lightly and enjoy a banter about it, we all cope our own ways Vengeance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I appreciate your contributions but dislike the inanity and puerility you engage in with your stooges, despite your maturity. Because of that, I often filter you out. It ruins threads and diminishes your value as an intelligent contributor.
I get banter, but some of the nonsense is not even classed as low brow, it's that bad!
Anyway, Frankie, I have no beef with you ☺️
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I always had time for your posts but I would admit I did filter you once. You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying.
Now, for an imbecile like Stupidson, I completely get it.
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"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
Oh, the irony, Scholay! 🤣
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Rapelay
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
———
Facking hell.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
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Are you going to elaborate or on a mission to antagonise?
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
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Why?
It is a spectacular point. If you do not want to accept it, just admit you’re a hypocrite.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 59 seconds ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
———
Facking hell.
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He skipped his self awareness class
😆
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 59 seconds ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
———
Facking hell.
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He skipped his self awareness class
😆
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You can’t help yourself.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
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He could have just posted this meme and be done with it.
https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/D4E10AQH9U-s6291wUA/image-shrink_800/image-shrink_800/0/1721122498133?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=qwgkDMgEE7qvMPmkqZ8aTOIIo--mKsG8AyE2nLoXMd8
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 42 seconds ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
———
Facking hell.
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LOL
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 59 seconds ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
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Facking hell.
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He skipped his self awareness class
😆
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You can’t help yourself.
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Sorry, the irony again
🤣
posted 6 days, 21 hours ago
nearly 7 years on.
Still holds true today.
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/394343
you guys are funny.
posted 6 days, 15 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 6 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
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Are you going to elaborate or on a mission to antagonise?
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So anyone who wants to commit to a criticism of an amoral globalist incarnation of capitalism should refuse to engage financially with the system in any way whatsoever?
You’re telling me that you cannot find any of the several reasons why that argument is spectacularly stupid? I’m sure you can.
Sign in if you want to comment
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posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Its pointelss talking about tha Qatar bid anyway. We aren't even sure if was real.
We got Jim.... and its going badly. Thats the discussion point of this thread. Harping on about hes better than Qatar or whatever, doesnt change or help fack all about the reality of our situation atm.
I would be worried by the fact that MUFC (who ever they are) are declaring publicly that they are embroiled ina a dire financial situation atm, despite being minority owned by the richest man in the UK who owns a multi-£billion chemical business and has just recently passed all his personal ownership and liabilities into that business.
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That’s an entirely different angle if we’re suggesting the Qatari bid wasn’t a serious one.
Given that Jim was the alternative, he clearly ticked all the right boxes for the Glazers. His proposal favoured their self-interest far more than it benefited the club or its fans. This suggests that Jim conceded so much to win them over that he’s effectively Glazer 2.0, and with the sweeping cuts now taking place, it all starts to make sense.
There doesn’t appear to be a genuine financial crisis, instead, PSR is being used as a convenient excuse to streamline Utd. Meanwhile, the club still maintains a bloated presence at the Sporting executive level. The cynics might argue that while Utd’s turnover remains healthy, costs are eating into profits, and Jim is simply clearing the cost base to ensure the Glazers continue to benefit. It could even be part of a larger strategy for Jim to secure overall ownership in the future.
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
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LOL Berrada has announced personally at the last 2 fans forums that United are in a dire financial situation. Its in the minutes
Make of that what you will.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
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I get what you're saying.
If he is to make such high profile decisions, why does he not buy a majority holding share? He has the money.
That way, his decisions of cost cutting would not indirectly benefit the Glazers. Right now, to the uninitiated, he is the scapegoat if/when this goes wrong.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter what what our board is the best by a mile, it’s never dull.
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Defamatory claims by a puerile idiot is not a form of entertainment though and by repeating his claims you are condoning such claim. Breach of the law is not a laughing matter.
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Quite a lot of stuff not centred on your self indulgent world goes on as well Vengeance, it wasn’t a comment just based on tonight’s small sample
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Like the nonsense you constantly post with all your stooges? Truly enlightening entertainment.
🙄
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Well you have your regular repeated tirade nothing ever new or informative although I did appreciate something you posted the other day about our players not having the stomach to really scrap if we got for real in a relegation battle.
Some of us are are actually pretty smart guys and just take the whole feck up our club is a bit more lightly and enjoy a banter about it, we all cope our own ways Vengeance
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I appreciate your contributions but dislike the inanity and puerility you engage in with your stooges, despite your maturity. Because of that, I often filter you out. It ruins threads and diminishes your value as an intelligent contributor.
I get banter, but some of the nonsense is not even classed as low brow, it's that bad!
Anyway, Frankie, I have no beef with you ☺️
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
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I get what you're saying.
If he is to make such high profile decisions, why does he not buy a majority holding share? He has the money.
That way, his decisions of cost cutting would not indirectly benefit the Glazers. Right now, to the uninitiated, he is the scapegoat if/when this goes wrong.
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would*
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Its pointelss talking about tha Qatar bid anyway. We aren't even sure if was real.
We got Jim.... and its going badly. Thats the discussion point of this thread. Harping on about hes better than Qatar or whatever, doesnt change or help fack all about the reality of our situation atm.
I would be worried by the fact that MUFC (who ever they are) are declaring publicly that they are embroiled ina a dire financial situation atm, despite being minority owned by the richest man in the UK who owns a multi-£billion chemical business and has just recently passed all his personal ownership and liabilities into that business.
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That’s an entirely different angle if we’re suggesting the Qatari bid wasn’t a serious one.
Given that Jim was the alternative, he clearly ticked all the right boxes for the Glazers. His proposal favoured their self-interest far more than it benefited the club or its fans. This suggests that Jim conceded so much to win them over that he’s effectively Glazer 2.0, and with the sweeping cuts now taking place, it all starts to make sense.
There doesn’t appear to be a genuine financial crisis, instead, PSR is being used as a convenient excuse to streamline Utd. Meanwhile, the club still maintains a bloated presence at the Sporting executive level. The cynics might argue that while Utd’s turnover remains healthy, costs are eating into profits, and Jim is simply clearing the cost base to ensure the Glazers continue to benefit. It could even be part of a larger strategy for Jim to secure overall ownership in the future.
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
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LOL Berrada has announced personally at the last 2 fans forums that United are in a dire financial situation. Its in the minutes
Make of that what you will.
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Berrada is a Jimmy puppet ? 🤔
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
whats a Jimmy puppet?
this is getting tedious
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
and who are Frankos stooges
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (
posted 1 minute ago
Jim himself has admitted that the decisions he’s making will be unpopular but necessary, and he’s acknowledged that he won’t get everything right. That transparency, while refreshing, does little to inspire confidence among fans who are increasingly sceptical of his true motives, his competence of running a club even!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get what you're saying.
If he is to make such high profile decisions, why does he not buy a majority holding share? He has the money.
That way, his decisions of cost cutting would not indirectly benefit the Glazers. Right now, to the uninitiated, he is the scapegoat if/when this goes wrong.
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He’s worth around £12bn, but you’d think he was struggling financially. He claims to be a Utd fan, yet the way he’s going about things makes it seem like he’s an agent for a rival, working to weaken us from within. Maybe that’s a bit harsh, considering the sporting operation is still in its infancy, but he and his team are getting the big decisions wrong and alienating the very people he needs on his side — the fans!
As a minority stakeholder managing a small part of the club, Jim is clearly being used by the Glazers as a shield to deflect criticism. In reality, the root of the problem is the Glazers themselves, their refusal to sell and let go to an outright buyer is what’s dragging the club down.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
and who are Frankos stooges
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Pun, Cleverson, Baz t*rd.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter what what our board is the best by a mile, it’s never dull.
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Defamatory claims by a puerile idiot is not a form of entertainment though and by repeating his claims you are condoning such claim. Breach of the law is not a laughing matter.
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Quite a lot of stuff not centred on your self indulgent world goes on as well Vengeance, it wasn’t a comment just based on tonight’s small sample
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Like the nonsense you constantly post with all your stooges? Truly enlightening entertainment.
🙄
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Well you have your regular repeated tirade nothing ever new or informative although I did appreciate something you posted the other day about our players not having the stomach to really scrap if we got for real in a relegation battle.
Some of us are are actually pretty smart guys and just take the whole feck up our club is a bit more lightly and enjoy a banter about it, we all cope our own ways Vengeance
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I appreciate your contributions but dislike the inanity and puerility you engage in with your stooges, despite your maturity. Because of that, I often filter you out. It ruins threads and diminishes your value as an intelligent contributor.
I get banter, but some of the nonsense is not even classed as low brow, it's that bad!
Anyway, Frankie, I have no beef with you ☺️
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I always had time for your posts but I would admit I did filter you once. You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying.
Now, for an imbecile like Stupidson, I completely get it.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 17 minutes ago
There's been way too many negative stories now with INEOS
- Womens team being decimated again after making positive strides and finally winning a trophy
- Staff redundancies
- Fergie role being taken away
- ETH fiasco
- Dan Ashworth fiasco
- Ticket Price fiasco
- Christmas party cancelled
- Bonuses more than halved for background staff
- Now the Charity being cut off
Yeah this isn't at all what we signed up for and what we wanted. He's every bit as bad as the Glazers sadly and I hoped he wouldn't be.
If these cuts don't lead to relative success in the next 12-18 months then what was the point? A lot of our players earn £40k in a day or every 2 days so it's just anothet PR disaster.
What's worse is this is all being done whilst he's still not bought out the Glazers so it's a double whammy.
The whole club is just one depressing story after another at the moment. No wonder morale is at an all time low.
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This wouldn’t be happening under the Qatar ownership.
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It probably wouldn't VC and tbh the main argument for me not wanting Qatar was the morally bankrupt element.
However Jim seems to be taking care of the morally bankrupt element anyway so it's getting harder and harder to justify them over Qatar now.
Wanted to believe he'd be different to the parasites. Already convinced he's not.
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Since when were football fans, especially those from colonising countries, qualified to judge others on morality? It's a laughable stance given our own colourful history on the world stage, SE85. Even more laughable how we are willing to support a war criminal in Israel while Palestine is razed to the ground defenceless. Where's your morality? You should take a moment to reflect and engage in deeper thought before making such lofty claims.
Our country, across every sector driving the economy, is heavily reliant on Middle Eastern investment. If they were to divest, the impact would cripple us.
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It isn’t a laughable stance for those who have consistently challenged human rights abuses whenever and wherever they have occurred, is it?
I mean, tens of thousands of people turned out in Manchester to protest even before the Iraq War started. Tens of thousands have been out protesting against Netanyahu’s genocide in Gaza in recent months.
There are an awful lot of Manchester United fans - in Manchester, across the country, and beyond - opposed to seeing their club used as a sports washing vehicle by a brutal regime, who at the same time have also protested and campaigned loudly and consistently against their own (and other) countries’ governments, militaries, companies and other institutions involved in human rights abuses.
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The moral argument on human rights abuses is fair and Middle Eastern countries have a long way to go to meet the same standards of the West.
The reality is that Utd, like many other clubs, already operates within a global system that relies on Middle Eastern money. We’re not really in a position to separate the club from that system without completely isolating it. Middle Eastern investment is deeply woven into sports, media, and business worldwide, and Utd, like many others, benefits from these connections.
To truly disassociate, we’d have to step away from the entire system, something that’s not feasible or realistic in today’s world.
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Rather bland word salad.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 17 minutes ago
There's been way too many negative stories now with INEOS
- Womens team being decimated again after making positive strides and finally winning a trophy
- Staff redundancies
- Fergie role being taken away
- ETH fiasco
- Dan Ashworth fiasco
- Ticket Price fiasco
- Christmas party cancelled
- Bonuses more than halved for background staff
- Now the Charity being cut off
Yeah this isn't at all what we signed up for and what we wanted. He's every bit as bad as the Glazers sadly and I hoped he wouldn't be.
If these cuts don't lead to relative success in the next 12-18 months then what was the point? A lot of our players earn £40k in a day or every 2 days so it's just anothet PR disaster.
What's worse is this is all being done whilst he's still not bought out the Glazers so it's a double whammy.
The whole club is just one depressing story after another at the moment. No wonder morale is at an all time low.
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This wouldn’t be happening under the Qatar ownership.
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It probably wouldn't VC and tbh the main argument for me not wanting Qatar was the morally bankrupt element.
However Jim seems to be taking care of the morally bankrupt element anyway so it's getting harder and harder to justify them over Qatar now.
Wanted to believe he'd be different to the parasites. Already convinced he's not.
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Since when were football fans, especially those from colonising countries, qualified to judge others on morality? It's a laughable stance given our own colourful history on the world stage, SE85. Even more laughable how we are willing to support a war criminal in Israel while Palestine is razed to the ground defenceless. Where's your morality? You should take a moment to reflect and engage in deeper thought before making such lofty claims.
Our country, across every sector driving the economy, is heavily reliant on Middle Eastern investment. If they were to divest, the impact would cripple us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a laughable stance for those who have consistently challenged human rights abuses whenever and wherever they have occurred, is it?
I mean, tens of thousands of people turned out in Manchester to protest even before the Iraq War started. Tens of thousands have been out protesting against Netanyahu’s genocide in Gaza in recent months.
There are an awful lot of Manchester United fans - in Manchester, across the country, and beyond - opposed to seeing their club used as a sports washing vehicle by a brutal regime, who at the same time have also protested and campaigned loudly and consistently against their own (and other) countries’ governments, militaries, companies and other institutions involved in human rights abuses.
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The moral argument on human rights abuses is fair and Middle Eastern countries have a long way to go to meet the same standards of the West.
The reality is that Utd, like many other clubs, already operates within a global system that relies on Middle Eastern money. We’re not really in a position to separate the club from that system without completely isolating it. Middle Eastern investment is deeply woven into sports, media, and business worldwide, and Utd, like many others, benefits from these connections.
To truly disassociate, we’d have to step away from the entire system, something that’s not feasible or realistic in today’s world.
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Rather bland word salad.
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If you say so.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter what what our board is the best by a mile, it’s never dull.
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Defamatory claims by a puerile idiot is not a form of entertainment though and by repeating his claims you are condoning such claim. Breach of the law is not a laughing matter.
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Quite a lot of stuff not centred on your self indulgent world goes on as well Vengeance, it wasn’t a comment just based on tonight’s small sample
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Like the nonsense you constantly post with all your stooges? Truly enlightening entertainment.
🙄
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well you have your regular repeated tirade nothing ever new or informative although I did appreciate something you posted the other day about our players not having the stomach to really scrap if we got for real in a relegation battle.
Some of us are are actually pretty smart guys and just take the whole feck up our club is a bit more lightly and enjoy a banter about it, we all cope our own ways Vengeance
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I appreciate your contributions but dislike the inanity and puerility you engage in with your stooges, despite your maturity. Because of that, I often filter you out. It ruins threads and diminishes your value as an intelligent contributor.
I get banter, but some of the nonsense is not even classed as low brow, it's that bad!
Anyway, Frankie, I have no beef with you ☺️
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I always had time for your posts but I would admit I did filter you once. You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying.
Now, for an imbecile like Stupidson, I completely get it.
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"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
Oh, the irony, Scholay! 🤣
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter what what our board is the best by a mile, it’s never dull.
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Defamatory claims by a puerile idiot is not a form of entertainment though and by repeating his claims you are condoning such claim. Breach of the law is not a laughing matter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quite a lot of stuff not centred on your self indulgent world goes on as well Vengeance, it wasn’t a comment just based on tonight’s small sample
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Like the nonsense you constantly post with all your stooges? Truly enlightening entertainment.
🙄
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well you have your regular repeated tirade nothing ever new or informative although I did appreciate something you posted the other day about our players not having the stomach to really scrap if we got for real in a relegation battle.
Some of us are are actually pretty smart guys and just take the whole feck up our club is a bit more lightly and enjoy a banter about it, we all cope our own ways Vengeance
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I appreciate your contributions but dislike the inanity and puerility you engage in with your stooges, despite your maturity. Because of that, I often filter you out. It ruins threads and diminishes your value as an intelligent contributor.
I get banter, but some of the nonsense is not even classed as low brow, it's that bad!
Anyway, Frankie, I have no beef with you ☺️
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I always had time for your posts but I would admit I did filter you once. You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying.
Now, for an imbecile like Stupidson, I completely get it.
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"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
Oh, the irony, Scholay! 🤣
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Rapelay
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
———
Facking hell.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
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Are you going to elaborate or on a mission to antagonise?
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
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Why?
It is a spectacular point. If you do not want to accept it, just admit you’re a hypocrite.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 59 seconds ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
———
Facking hell.
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He skipped his self awareness class
😆
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 59 seconds ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
———
Facking hell.
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He skipped his self awareness class
😆
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You can’t help yourself.
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
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He could have just posted this meme and be done with it.
https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/D4E10AQH9U-s6291wUA/image-shrink_800/image-shrink_800/0/1721122498133?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=qwgkDMgEE7qvMPmkqZ8aTOIIo--mKsG8AyE2nLoXMd8
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 42 seconds ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
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Facking hell.
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LOL
posted 6 days, 22 hours ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 59 seconds ago
"You do have an air of arrogance and a condescending tone when you do not like what the other person is saying."
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Facking hell.
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He skipped his self awareness class
😆
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You can’t help yourself.
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Sorry, the irony again
🤣
posted 6 days, 21 hours ago
nearly 7 years on.
Still holds true today.
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/394343
you guys are funny.
posted 6 days, 15 hours ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 6 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
SE,
Don’t you work in finance? You understand how the global financial system operates, right? It involves EVERY country, including those you may despise for their actions, for reasons like those we’ve discussed. Money flows into every type of stock and sector around the world, from the retailers you shop with to the institutions you transact with. The club doesn’t operate in isolation, even if you think it does. That means you, and every fan involved with the club, are already engaging with money from the Middle East in your everyday lives.
So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument. Only then would it carry real meaning. Until then, it's difficult to ignore the contradictions inherent in rejecting one specific source of investment while still benefiting from the broader system.
Yes, make the moral argument if you want to see change in those regimes. But don’t use that argument to reject a source of finance simply because it’s from the Middle East, especially when you’re already part of the system. It’s a contradiction. You need to change your record.
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“ So, the morality argument you’re making loses its weight when you consider that we’re all part of a global system that includes this kind of investment. If you’re truly committed to your stance, you’d have to remove yourself entirely from the system, including the internet, and then make the argument.”
That’s a spectacularly stupid argument.
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Are you going to elaborate or on a mission to antagonise?
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So anyone who wants to commit to a criticism of an amoral globalist incarnation of capitalism should refuse to engage financially with the system in any way whatsoever?
You’re telling me that you cannot find any of the several reasons why that argument is spectacularly stupid? I’m sure you can.
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