Azpi is a hasbeen now he’s past it and was always a mediocre captain

Just get rid ffs

comment by CSTP (U1453)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by g7 - Boehly's Blues (U12473)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 minutes ago
Would be great business with a buyback, apparently quoted at 20 mill. That means cucurella only costs 30.

And then we can buy him back for 20 if he develops into a top player
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Our outlay now is roughly £30m, £50m for Cucurella minus £20m for Colwill.

But if we decide to buy Colwill back it'll be another £40m.

So total outlay of around £70m, dependant on what the exact fees end up being.

DOF in place and I reckon we blood Colwill as a backup this season in our squad rather than essentially paying to loan him to Brighton for a year or two.
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Yeah it means essentially paying £70m for Cucurella, considering Colwill is already a Chelsea player. That’s not great.
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Hmmm very negative way of looking at it. We either get one great player for 30 or two for 70 imo.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1554912489162293249

Lol

Should be telling Brighton to fk off and let them keep a player who obviously wants to leave. Letting them strong arm us into letting yet another top CB prospect leave is a disgrace.

If City offered £50m they would have him, yet we have to let them sign Colwill? New owners might be lacking a bit of a spine tbh

If City offered £50m they would have him, yet we have to let them sign Colwill? New owners might be lacking a bit of a spine tbh

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Agree, that City would've got him for £50m with no other strings attached.

Do feel Boehly has shown himself to be too accommodating.

comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 17 seconds ago
Should be telling Brighton to fk off and let them keep a player who obviously wants to leave. Letting them strong arm us into letting yet another top CB prospect leave is a disgrace.

If City offered £50m they would have him, yet we have to let them sign Colwill? New owners might be lacking a bit of a spine tbh
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It's pure naivety. We absolutely need a sporting director in place because we're getting played all over the place at the moment. Boehly has no business making "footballing" decisions considering his greenness.

I was hoping that with the disarray at board level this summer that we wouldn't do too much long-term damage but unfortunately it seems like I was asking for too much.

Lol Spurs buy Bissouma for half the price of Curacella. We have been so mugged off in this window. Boehly coming across as an utter amateur.

comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 12 minutes ago
Reserving judgement on Tuchel for now but I'm starting to get the feeling he was all talk when it came to utilising our academy.

We've lost 2 brilliant CBs from our academy and are about to repeat the mistake and let a 3rd leave. Buybacks mean feck all if the player doesn't actually want to come back.

I'm hopeful that Broja and Gallagher will get a genuine opportunity this season but I've massively lowered my expectations.
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Tomori was ditched by Lampard. TT had nothing to do with it

You may be right.

But it may also just be be fact that it's hard to sell junk players on hefty contracts and it's easier to generate revenue selling coveted youngsters.

This was happening before TT was here too.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 59 seconds ago
Lol Spurs buy Bissouma for half the price of Curacella. We have been so mugged off in this window. Boehly coming across as an utter amateur.
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I dont rare Bissouma like you do and think Cucurella is a better player.

But Boehly does seem like he is being mugged a bit.

I think it's a necessary learning curve

I wouldn't sell Azpilicueta

One year year on his deal and he is still useful.

comment by NPE - Fan of Todd's Boehly's Baastar... (U22712)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 59 seconds ago
Lol Spurs buy Bissouma for half the price of Curacella. We have been so mugged off in this window. Boehly coming across as an utter amateur.
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I dont rare Bissouma like you do and think Cucurella is a better player.

But Boehly does seem like he is being mugged a bit.

I think it's a necessary learning curve
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It will be interesting how Bissouma works out, but yes I think he is going to utterly dominate games for Spurs

Tbf Bissouma only had a year left on his contract and still had the police case over his head at the time, but still we’re getting bent over a barrel with this Cucurella/Colwill nonsense

I want wing back competition and see top options as integral to us improving in the league.

But letting Brighton bully us into selling Colwill is embarrassing. Just walk away and leave them with an unhappy player and sign a different wing back .

One counter point I think is valid is lots of our best Cobham graduates just aren't prepared to be squaddies or end up on loan for 3 years

They are treating Cobham like a really good school. Which they graduate from and find a future of weekly games elsewhere

In a way I respect it. Colwill doesnt want to be 5th choice CB here jf he can play weekly in the PL elsewhere

The buy back clause is too high tbh, they already got huge money from us for Cucurella and a good price to sign Colwill for likely two years, we shouldn’t also be letting them demand a buy back clause at that sort of price.

comment by NPE - Fan of Todd's Boehly's Baastard Blues (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
One counter point I think is valid is lots of our best Cobham graduates just aren't prepared to be squaddies or end up on loan for 3 years

They are treating Cobham like a really good school. Which they graduate from and find a future of weekly games elsewhere

In a way I respect it. Colwill doesnt want to be 5th choice CB here jf he can play weekly in the PL elsewhere
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It's a deal that makes sense for Colwill but is absolute garbage from our point of view.

If Ampadu, Sarr and Colwill leave we'd basically have 3 recognised CBs in the squad and 3 LBs/RBs who can play at LCB/RCB.

LCB: Cucurella, Koulibaly
CB: Silva, Koulibaly
RCB: Koulibaly, Chalobah, Azpi, James

I can see Tuchel gunning for one if not two additional CBs at a cost of £100m+ (if one of them is Fofana). But where does that leave our Colwill buyback? If we do bring him back we'd be spending an additional £40m when we could've kept him and saved £70m+ in total (buyback fee + transfer fee for additional CB brought in as cover).

If we were stacked at CB with several players in the 31+ range then this deal would make sense. But as it stands, it doesn't make footballing or financial sense - especially not in the long-term.

This all feels like Tuchel and Boehly have "new toy" syndrome. Not valuing the promising talent we have at home and instead chasing after "big" signings for clout.

I suppose we would essentially be paying £20-25m for Brighton to develop Colwill into a ready made CB for us. All depends on whether he actually agrees to return to us when the time comes though lol

So did we sign Cucurella?

Can't keep up with Steve's updates and our scatter gun approach this window

Some of you are being a bit ridiculous about Boehly coming in and showing he means business. He’s getting us players likely pointed out by Tuchel to strengthen us. Then also suggesting that there’s no long term planning etc. Just more BS. They basically just stepped into the office and are doing business with a big hurricane likely going on behind the scenes.

This window is all about getting players in and out. Not about being a hard ass when negotiating. We need to get players in or we will stagnate. Not happy when we aren’t signing players and apparently not happy when we do. You guys trip me out sometimes.

Just not happy to once again see us toss an extremely talented prospect aside for a player who doesn’t really fill an urgent hole in the squad

If we did this to sign Fofana it would make more sense although still be annoying

comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just not happy to once again see us toss an extremely talented prospect aside for a player who doesn’t really fill an urgent hole in the squad
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We have yet to see what that deal is. Hopefully a loan of course.

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 1 minute ago
Not happy when we aren’t signing players and apparently not happy when we do
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It's not that black and white. I don't care about us signing just any player - and especially not when it comes at a cost of us giving away *another* promising CB - which is also a current area of need.

And excuse me if I don't trust Boehly coming in and splashing the cash when we have absolutely zero structure in place at board level (for footballing decisions). That's a straight-up recipe for disaster.