I suppose Metro only looks back on seasons and has memories if they won a trophy

No, I have posters of the teams that finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 8th

Posters?

So Metro that's all that counts eh, whether you can get a poster, not whether you showed up to the games and put your passion into it.

How sad that your life is reduced to whether you can get a poster of your team winning the carling cup

Metro- (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
But who will look back and say I finished third ? Nobody

Gerrard can look back and say that was the first time I lifted a trophy at the new wembley.

Since when did 3rd become the new 1st ?
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True, but Arsenal now have the oppurtunity to look back and say, 'we won the CL'. They also have the squad and ability to finish strongly again next season, perhaps challange for the PL and CL.

Liverpool won the CC, they are still the 8th best team in England even thuogh you won the Caling Cup, will have to play in Europa League as well as try and get in the CL over the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle, Man Utd, Man City and Everton.

The point is, AFC are in a better position for the future than LFC.

If you asked me if I'd rather Man Utd finish 4th and be in the CL or 8th and win the CC, I, and every other Utd fan would say CL football.

I'm pretty certain most Liverpool fans would say the same. CC is nice to win, but it doesn't really mean anything, it's a nothing competitions for youth and reseves until the final.

True, but Arsenal now have the oppurtunity to look back and say, 'we won the CL'.
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"The point is, AFC are in a better position for the future than LFC"

I keep hearing this one - have we changed from winning trophies to predicting them now

Metro - in the last 6 years you have only won one more trophy than us, the CC. We each won a FA cup in 05 or 06. Of course you won a CL in 05 too.

But the year before we won the Premiership, without being beaten. 1 year earlier we won the FA cup. 2 years earlier we won the double.

You won your so called 'treble' in 01, but that included the UEFA cup and CC.

97/98 we won the double.

Now a gap of 5 years with neither winning anything. So looking at this recent history you cannot deny we were more successful.

Go back 5 more years and we have two championships, a FA cup and a League cup. The same as Liverpool in fact.

So yes it is all close. However you have not won the league for 20 years. The league is the only competition where whoever is the best actually wins. 3-0

Metro- (U6770)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
True, but Arsenal now have the oppurtunity to look back and say, 'we won the CL'.
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They are in the CL, which means they have a chance of winning it. Liverpool are not, so they don't.

As the above poster points out, one CC in 6 years is not much to brag about. If any of those players finish their careers having only won a CC, they will have seen their career as a failure.

metro - have you restricted your timeframe on your "who's better" comparison to exclude the PL titles that Arsenal have picked up?

Toblerone Boots (U4965)
posted 9 minutes ago
metro - have you restricted your timeframe on your "who's better" comparison to exclude the PL titles that Arsenal have picked up?

Let's to the last 20 years

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comment by andre's samba scarf (U6253)
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We can all play around with numbers

I could say last 5 years

you could say last 10

But when it comes to lifting tangible trophies - We have picked up 4 since you last won anything. Surely that is the stat that tells us the real story.

Everything else is just a parameter

TB - no, the debate was who has been who has been the more successful over recent seasons. If we are to believe Arsenal are then we are having to extend the parameters.

The only stat that gives us an idea as to who has been the more successful is that Liverpool have picked up 4 trophies since Arsenals last one.

You always show up to cheerlead TB

My god.....is thread still running......here fishy fishy

My god.....is thread still running......here fishy fishy

comment by andre's samba scarf (U6253)
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We can all play around with numbers

I could say last 5 years

you could say last 10

But when it comes to lifting tangible trophies - We have picked up 4 since you last won anything. Surely that is the stat that tells us the real story.

Everything else is just a parameter

TB - no, the debate was who has been who has been the more successful over recent seasons. If we are to believe Arsenal are then we are having to extend the parameters.

The only stat that gives us an idea as to who has been the more successful is that Liverpool have picked up 4 trophies since Arsenals last one.

You always show up to cheerlead TB

How sad that your life is reduced to whether you can get a poster of your team winning the carling cup

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Oh dear

Looks like someone can't read

and he even posted a smiley

You have only picked up 2 since we last did. No one counts the super cup and the CL was won when we won the FA cup

I'm out, I know Arsenal are better and more successful in modern times, as does everyone else in football. See ya

I sit in bed bedroom with posters of liverpool on my wall, my parents let me have access to the internet until 10pm.

I am the great metropolis

The only stat that gives us an idea as to who has been the more successful is that Liverpool have picked up 4 trophies since Arsenals last one.

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Arsenal won their last trophy in 2005. Since that season you've only won 2 pots - the FA cup in '06 & Mickeys 'not so big' Ears this year, so where does the 4 come from?

I remember when Liverpool defined their existence by League titles, 18 & all that.

Surely the stat that is the most relevant is that Arsenal have picked up that particular piece of silverware 4 times since you last held it aloft..........................

still arguing???

Liverpool are a bad parody act with themes of self delusion, cult like behaviour, ignorance and of course paleontology.

Arsenal may lack ambition, but Liverpool are just about bad at everything they do, yet they use all their efforts to convince you they are still relevant.

Only in a scouse mind!

What a self obsessed, ignorant establishment Liverpool is.

If only FSG were true Liverpool fans, kenny would still be blowing another 100M this summer on tat.

I sit in bed bedroom with posters of liverpool on my wall, my parents let me have access to the internet until 10pm.
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this is pathetic. You didn't understand a simple point and now you're trying to save face by using it to wum.

How embarrassing for you.

You're like one of those people that needs jokes explained to them and then follows the explanation with 'that's not even funny'

I'm out, I know Arsenal are better and more successful in modern times, as does everyone else in football. See ya
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So you don't consider trophies to be a measure of success ?

Sad that

Is that your entire response Metro?

You've been seriously owned by these fine Arsenal and United folks

And Everton folks

Surely the stat that is the most relevant is that Arsenal have picked up that particular piece of silverware 4 times since you last held it aloft
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How many times do people need to explain what we're debating here?

We are debating who has been more successful in recent years. The answer is Liverpool unless you see something other than trophies as the real measure of success

Is that your entire response Metro?
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Nice try

But you're the one who didn't even get a simple comment earlier in the thread

And then doubled the embarrassment by using that very mistake to wum

You honestly couldn't write that



you can proclaim to own people in a thread

But it takes someone great to do it properly with facts, stats and wit

Like me

The Great Metropolis



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