The way Spurs fans go on you'd think they were owned by a workers collective rather than a Billionaire tax exile.
"I made an article on the City board about their financial accounts, to be fair to them it's looking very good. They did cut their losses by 100m in one year"
Well, the premise is mega front-loaded investment, and the goal of snowballing that initial injection into perpetual profit forever more.
How did that go at Chelsky (ie at what point has the total profits since 2003 equalled the total investment Oligarsky has injected into the club) ??
Didn't they have a grand plan of achieving that in 2008 ??
I'll take that bet. Even if that were the case, it would still be cheaper than Arsenals! Good old sustainability, eh?
yes but difference is most arsenal fans are in work ..............................................
How did that go at Chelsky (ie at what point has the total profits since 2003 equalled the total investment Oligarsky has injected into the club) ??
That's irrelevant since that debt has been written off
yes so its got them where they are but wont be able to do that in the future so City and Chel-ski had better carry on winning things
"That's irrelevant"
Very relevant.
"since that debt has been written off"
By who ?? The creditors ?? And how much ??
City not even in the Wafa cup their earnings will be hit hard.
"That's irrelevant"
Very relevant.
"since that debt has been written off"
By who ?? The creditors ?? And how much ??
Its irrelevant since there is no longer debt and the 2008 plan was to make the club sustainable not to make Roman a profit on his investment
"Its irrelevant since there is no longer debt"
Very relevant.
Who paid off the debt ??
And how (from operating profits etc) ??
Very relevant.
Who paid off the debt ??
And how (from operating profits etc) ??
Roman paid off the debts therefore the debts do not exist. Do you not understand how this works?
wel he has failed big time seeing as you made 1.5 million last yr and that included 48 odd million from fluking the champions league
if you lost that final you would be in big trouble now and you know it
"wel he has failed big time seeing as you made 1.5 million last yr."
£1.5m is a profit we're trying to be sustainable not to make a tidy profit to push in Roman's pockets.
"and that included 48 odd million from fluking the champions league "
Group stage TV money for english clubs is around £25-30m so the money we won from going the whole hog is irrelevant and will most likely be covered by other revenue streams found in the last year ie various sponsorship deals the club have been making the past year
"That's irrelevant since that debt has been written off"
"Roman paid off the debts therefore the debts do not exist."
Which one is it?
"Do you not understand how this works?"
Do you?
"Roman paid off the debts therefore the debts do not exist. Do you not understand how this works?"
So Oligarsky paid off the debts from his own pocket.
Therefore the debts were not paid off by the business activities of the club.
Now you understand that ...
Has the club generated cumulative PROFITS since that time to match the amount he had to pay (ie to be able to repay him the money if he demanded it) ??
Just to recap, it seems City and Chelsea are akin to the highly successful Reggae Reggae Sauce and Amazon...
...with the obvious exception that the latter are making profits significantly over and above their initial investment
This is like a bitchfest
Utd and Arsenal were always going to be the biggest benefactors of restrictions but it won't largely effect City or Chelsea as the investments are already in place.Its clubs like Everton voting for changes which will forever make their club unmarketable and the only way is a downward spiral without the investment that's needed
posted 23 seconds ago
"That's irrelevant since that debt has been written off"
"Roman paid off the debts therefore the debts do not exist."
Which one is it?
If the debt has been written off then it is no longer relevant. As I have already mentioned the goal was to make the club sufficient not to make Roman a profit on his investment.
""Do you not understand how this works?"
Do you?
"
Do you?
in response to the "Manchester is Brue" vid, here is a clip from Indonesia after the derby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NQO0xb662Y&feature=endscreen&NR=1
More than you by the look of it. You're blustering.
your missing the point, if you didnt win you would not of been in it this season
mind you the defence you put up you might as wel not of bothered ,
Man City average attendance season 2006-07: 39,997
Man City average attendance season 2012-13: 46,861
Plastic increase since the oil money rolled in: 6964.
"So Oligarsky paid off the debts from his own pocket.
Therefore the debts were not paid off by the business activities of the club.
"
Yes they were funded by the owner. This is what we like to call "investment" (do you know this term?)
"Has the club generated cumulative PROFITS since that time"
The first profit was posted this year, I'm sure with revenue growth each year that profits will be posted again
"to match the amount he had to pay (ie to be able to repay him the money if he demanded it) ??"
This debt was written off therefore it is irrelevant (do you still not get this?)
imagine how much money we would from a sponsor for old trafford
That'd feel like selling the club's soul if it ever happened, hope the Glazers don't consider it
***
Not unless we had somebody as clever as the Newcastle chairman doing the negotiations. Apparently he seems to have convinced some bonehead of a sponsor to pay him a shed load of money to call their ground.....St. James' Park!
"Its clubs like Everton voting for changes which will forever make their club unmarketable and the only way is a downward spiral without the investment that's needed"
Or, to use Arry speak, are going to start "punching above their weight" .
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posted on 18/12/12
The way Spurs fans go on you'd think they were owned by a workers collective rather than a Billionaire tax exile.
posted on 18/12/12
"I made an article on the City board about their financial accounts, to be fair to them it's looking very good. They did cut their losses by 100m in one year"
Well, the premise is mega front-loaded investment, and the goal of snowballing that initial injection into perpetual profit forever more.
How did that go at Chelsky (ie at what point has the total profits since 2003 equalled the total investment Oligarsky has injected into the club) ??
Didn't they have a grand plan of achieving that in 2008 ??
posted on 18/12/12
I'll take that bet. Even if that were the case, it would still be cheaper than Arsenals! Good old sustainability, eh?
yes but difference is most arsenal fans are in work ..............................................
posted on 18/12/12
How did that go at Chelsky (ie at what point has the total profits since 2003 equalled the total investment Oligarsky has injected into the club) ??
That's irrelevant since that debt has been written off
posted on 18/12/12
yes so its got them where they are but wont be able to do that in the future so City and Chel-ski had better carry on winning things
posted on 18/12/12
"That's irrelevant"
Very relevant.
"since that debt has been written off"
By who ?? The creditors ?? And how much ??
posted on 18/12/12
City not even in the Wafa cup their earnings will be hit hard.
posted on 18/12/12
"That's irrelevant"
Very relevant.
"since that debt has been written off"
By who ?? The creditors ?? And how much ??
Its irrelevant since there is no longer debt and the 2008 plan was to make the club sustainable not to make Roman a profit on his investment
posted on 18/12/12
"Its irrelevant since there is no longer debt"
Very relevant.
Who paid off the debt ??
And how (from operating profits etc) ??
posted on 18/12/12
posted on 18/12/12
Very relevant.
Who paid off the debt ??
And how (from operating profits etc) ??
Roman paid off the debts therefore the debts do not exist. Do you not understand how this works?
posted on 18/12/12
wel he has failed big time seeing as you made 1.5 million last yr and that included 48 odd million from fluking the champions league
if you lost that final you would be in big trouble now and you know it
posted on 18/12/12
"wel he has failed big time seeing as you made 1.5 million last yr."
£1.5m is a profit we're trying to be sustainable not to make a tidy profit to push in Roman's pockets.
"and that included 48 odd million from fluking the champions league "
Group stage TV money for english clubs is around £25-30m so the money we won from going the whole hog is irrelevant and will most likely be covered by other revenue streams found in the last year ie various sponsorship deals the club have been making the past year
posted on 18/12/12
"That's irrelevant since that debt has been written off"
"Roman paid off the debts therefore the debts do not exist."
Which one is it?
"Do you not understand how this works?"
Do you?
posted on 18/12/12
"Roman paid off the debts therefore the debts do not exist. Do you not understand how this works?"
So Oligarsky paid off the debts from his own pocket.
Therefore the debts were not paid off by the business activities of the club.
Now you understand that ...
Has the club generated cumulative PROFITS since that time to match the amount he had to pay (ie to be able to repay him the money if he demanded it) ??
posted on 18/12/12
Just to recap, it seems City and Chelsea are akin to the highly successful Reggae Reggae Sauce and Amazon...
...with the obvious exception that the latter are making profits significantly over and above their initial investment
posted on 18/12/12
This is like a bitchfest
Utd and Arsenal were always going to be the biggest benefactors of restrictions but it won't largely effect City or Chelsea as the investments are already in place.Its clubs like Everton voting for changes which will forever make their club unmarketable and the only way is a downward spiral without the investment that's needed
posted on 18/12/12
posted 23 seconds ago
"That's irrelevant since that debt has been written off"
"Roman paid off the debts therefore the debts do not exist."
Which one is it?
If the debt has been written off then it is no longer relevant. As I have already mentioned the goal was to make the club sufficient not to make Roman a profit on his investment.
""Do you not understand how this works?"
Do you?
"
Do you?
posted on 18/12/12
in response to the "Manchester is Brue" vid, here is a clip from Indonesia after the derby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NQO0xb662Y&feature=endscreen&NR=1
posted on 18/12/12
More than you by the look of it. You're blustering.
posted on 18/12/12
your missing the point, if you didnt win you would not of been in it this season
mind you the defence you put up you might as wel not of bothered ,
posted on 18/12/12
Man City average attendance season 2006-07: 39,997
Man City average attendance season 2012-13: 46,861
Plastic increase since the oil money rolled in: 6964.
posted on 18/12/12
"So Oligarsky paid off the debts from his own pocket.
Therefore the debts were not paid off by the business activities of the club.
"
Yes they were funded by the owner. This is what we like to call "investment" (do you know this term?)
"Has the club generated cumulative PROFITS since that time"
The first profit was posted this year, I'm sure with revenue growth each year that profits will be posted again
"to match the amount he had to pay (ie to be able to repay him the money if he demanded it) ??"
This debt was written off therefore it is irrelevant (do you still not get this?)
posted on 18/12/12
imagine how much money we would from a sponsor for old trafford
That'd feel like selling the club's soul if it ever happened, hope the Glazers don't consider it
***
Not unless we had somebody as clever as the Newcastle chairman doing the negotiations. Apparently he seems to have convinced some bonehead of a sponsor to pay him a shed load of money to call their ground.....St. James' Park!
posted on 18/12/12
"Its clubs like Everton voting for changes which will forever make their club unmarketable and the only way is a downward spiral without the investment that's needed"
Or, to use Arry speak, are going to start "punching above their weight" .
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