How many times did Sheringham play on the wing?
MuDD
You forget that Cleverley played against Madrid and was just as good as any of their players.
The guy is a big game player.
How many times did Sheringham play on the wing?
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What a stupid question. I can reply with 'how many times did Solskjaer play on the wing'?
Just because some players have played in one position their whole careers doesn't mean some can't play in others.
MuDD, for a smart guy you do come out with some real simple minded baloney.
Not yet he isn't Rob, he has flashes but isn't there yet.
and there rests my case where people are blinded by results over performances.
you are right, we have won those games, but in quite a few of those we had to come from behind and squeeze out a result, we shouldnt need to go behind to inferior teams in order to start playing.
many of those wins could easily have been draws or defeats, thats how fine the margins were.
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Comment of the day.
Solksjaer played on the wing becuase Beckham was misbehaving. The point a lot of you are makign is that because of VP Welbeck and Henrnadez are suffering and have to play elsewhere.
I countered that by saying why didn't the manager do that with Sheringham or when he signed Ruud.
You can't have it both ways.
comment by UnitedRedMacca- Clevshere for the 2014 WC (U2024)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by dunc_ it is unnaceptable to laugh at people who have split their a n u s! (U11713)
posted 11 minutes ago
rob,
take the blinkers off mate, we have performed sheite far too often this season.
noone is being ungrateful for what fergie has done
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Don't know why you bother Dunc
He knows full well nobody is being ungrateful
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I don't know why you unfiltered him Macca, he is never going to change.
Rob is a WUM, nothing more.
MuDD
Have you considered that Sheringham was never a pacey player and him playing on the wing is far more insane than a guy like Welbeck who played on the wing with great success for Sunderland can do a job there?
Rob is a WUM, nothing more.
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Because Sheringham can't play on the wing. Welbeck to a degree can.
Hernandez cannot and therefore does not play on the wing.
comment by Robb Lannister (U9808)
posted 11 minutes ago
Macca
Honest question. Like my '05/06' article says, do you think the boss can turn it around?
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Not with his current philosophy of destroying talenten players so he gets to play his favourites
Last season, we blew an 8 point lead. Sir Alex has to shoulder alot of that
Let's see what happens because we are tiptoeing down the home straight at the minute
The FA cup quarter final showed what wer'e about at the minute
Trying to stop Chelsea playing than playing our own game
Bore fest
So why does Fergie play a winger with no pace or no passing ability in the centre of midfield?
Welbeck didn't play as a winger for Sunderland
Why didn't Fergie play Andy Cole as a winger when he signed Van Nistelrooy.
Cole had pace, skill and could pass. Why did he not play him on the wing?
no passing ability
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Have you ever watched Giggs play?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
He didn't play cole there because we had Giggs there, we didn't have underperforming wingers like we do today. I think you need to stop assuming every situation is the same when it is not.
Macca
We blew a 12 point lead in 97 but then won the CL the next year. These things happen but this year he's done more than enough to ensure that won't happen again.
Regarding 'destroying' talented players, that's very much overplayed. Nani has been his own worst enemy. The guy has played plenty of times for us and has been abysmal. It's funny how you never criticise him but the boss that plays him there gets all the blame.
Anderson had all the talent in the world and showed it in his first season. Did Sir Alex force feed him all that junk food and make him fat? Did Sir Alex constantly injure him?
Sometimes the players have to look at themselves.
comment by Robb Lannister (U9808)
posted 13 minutes ago
MuDD
You forget that Cleverley played against Madrid and was just as good as any of their players.
The guy is a big game player.
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Or big game bench warmer, as was the case last night
Welbeck has done ok in a couple of games on the wing where his energy has been extremely important.
However, as a winger in an attacking sense he's been very poor.
He cannot, and doesn't, even cross the ball. Rarely makes chances and doesn't shoot. Doesn't do too bad up until he gets into the final 3rd when he does nothing.
I can allow for this as he is simply not a winger. He has potential to be a decent striker but needs games there and needs more end product.
His end product has been poor this season so I cannot understand the justification for playing him wide and saying he's done well there, he simply hasn't.
Other wingers have't pulled up any trees but Nani, Kagawa, Rooney, Giggs, Young and Valencia are all better options there.
Welbeck is being turned into another Park.
Rob, I have, more than you. Even as a winger his final ball was always an issue. So how does a winger with a limited passing game play in the centre of midfield
You forget that Cleverley played against Madrid and was just as good as any of their players.
The guy is a big game player.
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macca
Stop pasting this idiots comments please.
Scholes, so with the underperforming wingers we have today. What has been the managers solution to the problem? He plays an underperforming striker as a winger and plays a central midfield player as a winger against Chelsea?
This doesn't trouble you guys????
Macca
How many big games has Cleverley been a bench warmer this season?
He started against Chelsea (twice), Arsenal, Real, City and Spurs this season.
Who knows why he was on the bench last night but whatever reason it was, given Toms multitude of appearances in CM in games of similar or even more important games he has been in the line up. I don't see why that gets whitewashed.
Welbeck and Giggs are two entirely different cases. Giggs in my opinion shouldn't have played last night and I think that was a mistake from Fergie but look at the stats, Giggs has only played 15 league games this season.
VC
Me and Macca have had our issues but we're both adult enough to debate them. We may not always agree but that's what debating sites are for.
What the good people on here don't need is you in the background acting like an attention seeking 12 year old trying to poison peoples minds.
I get it, you don't like me. Why don't you stop going on about me and get on with your life. Your constant digs are boring and even worse, it strikes me as obsessive and says a lot about you.
comment by Robb Lannister (U9808)
posted 3 minutes ago
no passing ability
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Have you ever watched Giggs play?
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In midfield of late? Yes
And he's terrible. We've been saying it for 2 years now and he still plays him there.
Playing Giggs alongside Carrick in a game of that magnitude is utter madness
Playing players out of position is a necessary situation on occassions but Sir Alex is taking to levels I have never seen before, and when he doesn't have to either
We were an unnecessary unbalanced mess last night. Again
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posted on 9/4/13
How many times did Sheringham play on the wing?
posted on 9/4/13
MuDD
You forget that Cleverley played against Madrid and was just as good as any of their players.
The guy is a big game player.
posted on 9/4/13
How many times did Sheringham play on the wing?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
What a stupid question. I can reply with 'how many times did Solskjaer play on the wing'?
Just because some players have played in one position their whole careers doesn't mean some can't play in others.
MuDD, for a smart guy you do come out with some real simple minded baloney.
posted on 9/4/13
Not yet he isn't Rob, he has flashes but isn't there yet.
posted on 9/4/13
and there rests my case where people are blinded by results over performances.
you are right, we have won those games, but in quite a few of those we had to come from behind and squeeze out a result, we shouldnt need to go behind to inferior teams in order to start playing.
many of those wins could easily have been draws or defeats, thats how fine the margins were.
..................
Comment of the day.
posted on 9/4/13
Solksjaer played on the wing becuase Beckham was misbehaving. The point a lot of you are makign is that because of VP Welbeck and Henrnadez are suffering and have to play elsewhere.
I countered that by saying why didn't the manager do that with Sheringham or when he signed Ruud.
You can't have it both ways.
posted on 9/4/13
comment by UnitedRedMacca- Clevshere for the 2014 WC (U2024)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by dunc_ it is unnaceptable to laugh at people who have split their a n u s! (U11713)
posted 11 minutes ago
rob,
take the blinkers off mate, we have performed sheite far too often this season.
noone is being ungrateful for what fergie has done
-------------
Don't know why you bother Dunc
He knows full well nobody is being ungrateful
.....................
I don't know why you unfiltered him Macca, he is never going to change.
Rob is a WUM, nothing more.
posted on 9/4/13
MuDD
Have you considered that Sheringham was never a pacey player and him playing on the wing is far more insane than a guy like Welbeck who played on the wing with great success for Sunderland can do a job there?
posted on 9/4/13
Rob is a WUM, nothing more.
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The voice of authority by the biggest jerk on these pages
posted on 9/4/13
Because Sheringham can't play on the wing. Welbeck to a degree can.
Hernandez cannot and therefore does not play on the wing.
posted on 9/4/13
comment by Robb Lannister (U9808)
posted 11 minutes ago
Macca
Honest question. Like my '05/06' article says, do you think the boss can turn it around?
------------------
Not with his current philosophy of destroying talenten players so he gets to play his favourites
Last season, we blew an 8 point lead. Sir Alex has to shoulder alot of that
Let's see what happens because we are tiptoeing down the home straight at the minute
The FA cup quarter final showed what wer'e about at the minute
Trying to stop Chelsea playing than playing our own game
Bore fest
posted on 9/4/13
So why does Fergie play a winger with no pace or no passing ability in the centre of midfield?
Welbeck didn't play as a winger for Sunderland
Why didn't Fergie play Andy Cole as a winger when he signed Van Nistelrooy.
Cole had pace, skill and could pass. Why did he not play him on the wing?
posted on 9/4/13
no passing ability
-----------------------------------------------------
Have you ever watched Giggs play?
posted on 9/4/13
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
He didn't play cole there because we had Giggs there, we didn't have underperforming wingers like we do today. I think you need to stop assuming every situation is the same when it is not.
posted on 9/4/13
Macca
We blew a 12 point lead in 97 but then won the CL the next year. These things happen but this year he's done more than enough to ensure that won't happen again.
Regarding 'destroying' talented players, that's very much overplayed. Nani has been his own worst enemy. The guy has played plenty of times for us and has been abysmal. It's funny how you never criticise him but the boss that plays him there gets all the blame.
Anderson had all the talent in the world and showed it in his first season. Did Sir Alex force feed him all that junk food and make him fat? Did Sir Alex constantly injure him?
Sometimes the players have to look at themselves.
posted on 9/4/13
*97/98
posted on 9/4/13
comment by Robb Lannister (U9808)
posted 13 minutes ago
MuDD
You forget that Cleverley played against Madrid and was just as good as any of their players.
The guy is a big game player.
----------------------
Or big game bench warmer, as was the case last night
posted on 9/4/13
Welbeck has done ok in a couple of games on the wing where his energy has been extremely important.
However, as a winger in an attacking sense he's been very poor.
He cannot, and doesn't, even cross the ball. Rarely makes chances and doesn't shoot. Doesn't do too bad up until he gets into the final 3rd when he does nothing.
I can allow for this as he is simply not a winger. He has potential to be a decent striker but needs games there and needs more end product.
His end product has been poor this season so I cannot understand the justification for playing him wide and saying he's done well there, he simply hasn't.
Other wingers have't pulled up any trees but Nani, Kagawa, Rooney, Giggs, Young and Valencia are all better options there.
Welbeck is being turned into another Park.
posted on 9/4/13
Rob, I have, more than you. Even as a winger his final ball was always an issue. So how does a winger with a limited passing game play in the centre of midfield
posted on 9/4/13
You forget that Cleverley played against Madrid and was just as good as any of their players.
The guy is a big game player.
.......................
macca
Stop pasting this idiots comments please.
posted on 9/4/13
Scholes, so with the underperforming wingers we have today. What has been the managers solution to the problem? He plays an underperforming striker as a winger and plays a central midfield player as a winger against Chelsea?
This doesn't trouble you guys????
posted on 9/4/13
Macca
How many big games has Cleverley been a bench warmer this season?
He started against Chelsea (twice), Arsenal, Real, City and Spurs this season.
Who knows why he was on the bench last night but whatever reason it was, given Toms multitude of appearances in CM in games of similar or even more important games he has been in the line up. I don't see why that gets whitewashed.
posted on 9/4/13
Welbeck and Giggs are two entirely different cases. Giggs in my opinion shouldn't have played last night and I think that was a mistake from Fergie but look at the stats, Giggs has only played 15 league games this season.
posted on 9/4/13
VC
Me and Macca have had our issues but we're both adult enough to debate them. We may not always agree but that's what debating sites are for.
What the good people on here don't need is you in the background acting like an attention seeking 12 year old trying to poison peoples minds.
I get it, you don't like me. Why don't you stop going on about me and get on with your life. Your constant digs are boring and even worse, it strikes me as obsessive and says a lot about you.
posted on 9/4/13
comment by Robb Lannister (U9808)
posted 3 minutes ago
no passing ability
-----------------------------------------------------
Have you ever watched Giggs play?
-------------------
In midfield of late? Yes
And he's terrible. We've been saying it for 2 years now and he still plays him there.
Playing Giggs alongside Carrick in a game of that magnitude is utter madness
Playing players out of position is a necessary situation on occassions but Sir Alex is taking to levels I have never seen before, and when he doesn't have to either
We were an unnecessary unbalanced mess last night. Again
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