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You post as if there has never been any other deaths under any other reign.
Blaming Thatcher for Hillsborough in any shape or form is diabolical.
There are many conspiracy theories about the whole saga but linking it to Thatcher as a person is one of the sickest ive heard to date.
posted 4 minutes ago
I'd rather she was killed by the brighton bomb but better late than never.
She wasn't the only person affected by that bomb and how you can say that I just don't know
Did people object to people in the US celebrating the death of Bin Laden?
One persons hero is another persons terrorist.
Peaceful protest is everyones right, and celebrating a death can be a form of protest as it sheds light on the reasons you are celebrating.
I don't really understand why people find it funny that many of those celebrating were children or not even born in Thatcher's era. You don't have to have directly experienced something to have an opinion on it. Most of the people who buy Poppies in November weren't alive in either world war, it doesn't mean they don't have knowledge of it nor understand it.
Of course some of the youngsters involved won't really know what they are protesting about, but many more will know exactly why.
Many many people in the UK felt directly wronged by Margaret Thatcher, so it is perfectly understandable that they (and their descendants) are happy to see her suffer (and her family guilty by association).
The fact that so many people are involved just shows the impact she had on those communities given it has been over 20 years since she left office.
Thatcher's policies may have made life miserable but the only deaths I would attribute to her are those lost in the Falklands.
There can be a difference between a public 'celebration' and not being sad that she is gone.
I was a child druing thatchers reign but my father was a trade unionist in liverpool at the time. my dad is a very respectful man but openly states his hatred for Thatcher and her govt. he states watching families being torn apart by unemployment, the city he loves being left in 'managed decline' and he also stands firm on his belief that when the full hillsborough documents are released then he will again find himself outraged by her... however this is yet to be proved, as his reasons for this.
last monday he and many of his old work mates shared a drink in the pub, he states this was celebrating but he also is clear that he would not make an offensive banner, chant or disrupt anyones funeral. In his opinion he would not want to cause more upset to an innocent family BUT his hatred of her would not let the day pass without having a drink with other people who he also believes were cast aside by a PM who did not care for them as much as they did not care for her.
rightly or wrongly i can see the sense in this....
comment by Nani's Balls - ABUs can suck my banana (U1042)
posted 1 minute ago
Thatcher's policies may have made life miserable but the only deaths I would attribute to her are those lost in the Falklands.
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Really? I blame Argentina to be honest.
There can be a difference between a public 'celebration' and not being sad that she is gone.
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last monday he and many of his old work mates shared a drink in the pub, he states this was celebrating but he also is clear that he would not make an offensive banner, chant or disrupt anyones funeral. In his opinion he would not want to cause more upset to an innocent family BUT his hatred of her would not let the day pass without having a drink with other people who he also believes were cast aside by a PM who did not care for them as much as they did not care for her.
rightly or wrongly i can see the sense in this....
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but thats a reserved celebration which to me is fine.
showing his dislike for someone withoug going to stupid extremes.
last monday he and many of his old work mates shared a drink in the pub, he states this was celebrating but he also is clear that he would not make an offensive banner, chant or disrupt anyones funeral. In his opinion he would not want to cause more upset to an innocent family BUT his hatred of her would not let the day pass without having a drink with other people who he also believes were cast aside by a PM who did not care for them as much as they did not care for her.
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This highlights the cathartic release of much of this 'celebrating'.
It's not as much about the death of Thatcher, more about people remembering a terrible time in their lives and being relieved that it is over. Thatchers death has just been the trigger point to appraise that period in their lives.
I don't really understand why people find it funny that many of those celebrating were children or not even born in Thatcher's era. You don't have to have directly experienced something to have an opinion on it. Most of the people who buy Poppies in November weren't alive in either world war, it doesn't mean they don't have knowledge of it nor understand it.
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give over, half the morons ive seen celebrating are 16-18 year old c h a v s who wear velcro trainers as they dont have the brain power to tie a pair of laces.
comment by It's a Mexican Rave!!!! Oh, oh, oh it’s Carrick, you knooooow, it's hard to believe it’s not Scholes (U6687)
posted 19 minutes ago
my dad says she perhaps tried to change things too quickly with the miners, and if there had been a bit more give and take from both sides it may have ended better
..................
A noble concept, but it wasn't going to happen with Scargil.
The miners unions were not prepared to give anything.
and all these students protesting might still have a free university education if it wasnt for new labour
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because the country can afford to send all school leavers to uni cant it?
When Thatcher was PM only 5% of A level students went to uni. Now its 80%
You know why?
Because in the 1980s Britain's manufacturing industry was as good as dismantled and with it went all the Apprenticeships and skilled vocational training that these light and heavy engineering companies gave to non-academic school leavers. The choice became for young people, go to Uni or go on the dole. So they made A levels easier so most school leavers could pass them with the grades needed to qualify for Uni places. However the burden of cost to the taxpayer became too great so they eventually introduced loan schemes to pay the fees.
Really? I blame Argentina to be honest.
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I blame Bush Sr for lives lost in Iraq 1 and Bush Jr for lives lost in Iraq 2 and Afghanistan as well.
It certainly cheered up my week anyway, and what is so wrong with celebrating someone's death?
People all the time now have a celebration of someone's life, after their death, i'm just celebrating her death, it's my right and i see no wrong in it. To me she was the cause of so much pain and despair to so many people, that's good enough reason to celebrate her passing....................now where's that kool and the gang LP?
comment by Nani's Balls - ABUs can suck my banana (U1042)
posted 8 minutes ago
New Labour and Tories are pretty much the same.
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No they are not. They are as far apart as they ever were.
I dont want an argument about her politics as i grew up with enough of it to last me a life time ...but
RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335) is pretty much on my wave length oh and my dads
"what is so wrong with celebrating someone's death?"
In my opinion, if you have to ask the question, you'll never understand the answer.
What gets me are these people attributing Thatcher with the NI peace process and even the Good Friday agreement. True, she had a part in the Anglo Irish agreement but that is it. People in NI have more bad than good to attribute to her.
is anybody seriously comparing Thatcher to Bin Laden, Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler?
"what is so wrong with celebrating someone's death?"
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why dont you pop down to london and ask her children, grandkids and great grandkids that question??
Why don't they just make uni free, like Scotland?
That Nicky Campbell's the big questions is a cross between Jeremy Kyle and the hate filed daily mail I cannot stand it. Question time on the other hand.
is anybody seriously comparing Thatcher to Bin Laden, Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler?
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Yeah, that is ridiculous. I didn't like her but jeez comparing her to those is stupid.
comment by Nani's Balls - ABUs can suck my banana (U1042)
posted 1 minute ago
What gets me are these people attributing Thatcher with the NI peace process and even the Good Friday agreement. True, she had a part in the Anglo Irish agreement but that is it. People in NI have more bad than good to attribute to her.
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You should have been in NI before she came into power.
comment by Nani's Balls - ABUs can suck my banana (U1042) posted 44 seconds ago
What gets me are these people attributing Thatcher with the NI peace process and even the Good Friday agreement. True, she had a part in the Anglo Irish agreement but that is it. People in NI have more bad than good to attribute to her.
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People are easily brainwashed here. So much so that many protestants think she was great for Northern Ireland simply because she didn't bow down to the I.R.A's demands(despite the fact she was about to as per secret documents recently released). Many catholic's hate here as they believe she let people die etc. So much so that I drove past a wall on the Fall's Road which read - Iron Lady? Rust In Peace.
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posted on 15/4/13
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You post as if there has never been any other deaths under any other reign.
Blaming Thatcher for Hillsborough in any shape or form is diabolical.
There are many conspiracy theories about the whole saga but linking it to Thatcher as a person is one of the sickest ive heard to date.
posted on 15/4/13
posted 4 minutes ago
I'd rather she was killed by the brighton bomb but better late than never.
She wasn't the only person affected by that bomb and how you can say that I just don't know
posted on 15/4/13
Did people object to people in the US celebrating the death of Bin Laden?
One persons hero is another persons terrorist.
Peaceful protest is everyones right, and celebrating a death can be a form of protest as it sheds light on the reasons you are celebrating.
I don't really understand why people find it funny that many of those celebrating were children or not even born in Thatcher's era. You don't have to have directly experienced something to have an opinion on it. Most of the people who buy Poppies in November weren't alive in either world war, it doesn't mean they don't have knowledge of it nor understand it.
Of course some of the youngsters involved won't really know what they are protesting about, but many more will know exactly why.
Many many people in the UK felt directly wronged by Margaret Thatcher, so it is perfectly understandable that they (and their descendants) are happy to see her suffer (and her family guilty by association).
The fact that so many people are involved just shows the impact she had on those communities given it has been over 20 years since she left office.
posted on 15/4/13
Thatcher's policies may have made life miserable but the only deaths I would attribute to her are those lost in the Falklands.
posted on 15/4/13
There can be a difference between a public 'celebration' and not being sad that she is gone.
I was a child druing thatchers reign but my father was a trade unionist in liverpool at the time. my dad is a very respectful man but openly states his hatred for Thatcher and her govt. he states watching families being torn apart by unemployment, the city he loves being left in 'managed decline' and he also stands firm on his belief that when the full hillsborough documents are released then he will again find himself outraged by her... however this is yet to be proved, as his reasons for this.
last monday he and many of his old work mates shared a drink in the pub, he states this was celebrating but he also is clear that he would not make an offensive banner, chant or disrupt anyones funeral. In his opinion he would not want to cause more upset to an innocent family BUT his hatred of her would not let the day pass without having a drink with other people who he also believes were cast aside by a PM who did not care for them as much as they did not care for her.
rightly or wrongly i can see the sense in this....
posted on 15/4/13
comment by Nani's Balls - ABUs can suck my banana (U1042)
posted 1 minute ago
Thatcher's policies may have made life miserable but the only deaths I would attribute to her are those lost in the Falklands.
-----
Really? I blame Argentina to be honest.
posted on 15/4/13
There can be a difference between a public 'celebration' and not being sad that she is gone.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
This
posted on 15/4/13
last monday he and many of his old work mates shared a drink in the pub, he states this was celebrating but he also is clear that he would not make an offensive banner, chant or disrupt anyones funeral. In his opinion he would not want to cause more upset to an innocent family BUT his hatred of her would not let the day pass without having a drink with other people who he also believes were cast aside by a PM who did not care for them as much as they did not care for her.
rightly or wrongly i can see the sense in this....
----------------------------
but thats a reserved celebration which to me is fine.
showing his dislike for someone withoug going to stupid extremes.
posted on 15/4/13
last monday he and many of his old work mates shared a drink in the pub, he states this was celebrating but he also is clear that he would not make an offensive banner, chant or disrupt anyones funeral. In his opinion he would not want to cause more upset to an innocent family BUT his hatred of her would not let the day pass without having a drink with other people who he also believes were cast aside by a PM who did not care for them as much as they did not care for her.
--
This highlights the cathartic release of much of this 'celebrating'.
It's not as much about the death of Thatcher, more about people remembering a terrible time in their lives and being relieved that it is over. Thatchers death has just been the trigger point to appraise that period in their lives.
posted on 15/4/13
I don't really understand why people find it funny that many of those celebrating were children or not even born in Thatcher's era. You don't have to have directly experienced something to have an opinion on it. Most of the people who buy Poppies in November weren't alive in either world war, it doesn't mean they don't have knowledge of it nor understand it.
--------------
give over, half the morons ive seen celebrating are 16-18 year old c h a v s who wear velcro trainers as they dont have the brain power to tie a pair of laces.
posted on 15/4/13
comment by It's a Mexican Rave!!!! Oh, oh, oh it’s Carrick, you knooooow, it's hard to believe it’s not Scholes (U6687)
posted 19 minutes ago
my dad says she perhaps tried to change things too quickly with the miners, and if there had been a bit more give and take from both sides it may have ended better
..................
A noble concept, but it wasn't going to happen with Scargil.
The miners unions were not prepared to give anything.
posted on 15/4/13
and all these students protesting might still have a free university education if it wasnt for new labour
**
because the country can afford to send all school leavers to uni cant it?
When Thatcher was PM only 5% of A level students went to uni. Now its 80%
You know why?
Because in the 1980s Britain's manufacturing industry was as good as dismantled and with it went all the Apprenticeships and skilled vocational training that these light and heavy engineering companies gave to non-academic school leavers. The choice became for young people, go to Uni or go on the dole. So they made A levels easier so most school leavers could pass them with the grades needed to qualify for Uni places. However the burden of cost to the taxpayer became too great so they eventually introduced loan schemes to pay the fees.
posted on 15/4/13
Really? I blame Argentina to be honest.
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I blame Bush Sr for lives lost in Iraq 1 and Bush Jr for lives lost in Iraq 2 and Afghanistan as well.
posted on 15/4/13
It certainly cheered up my week anyway, and what is so wrong with celebrating someone's death?
People all the time now have a celebration of someone's life, after their death, i'm just celebrating her death, it's my right and i see no wrong in it. To me she was the cause of so much pain and despair to so many people, that's good enough reason to celebrate her passing....................now where's that kool and the gang LP?
posted on 15/4/13
comment by Nani's Balls - ABUs can suck my banana (U1042)
posted 8 minutes ago
New Labour and Tories are pretty much the same.
..............
No they are not. They are as far apart as they ever were.
posted on 15/4/13
I dont want an argument about her politics as i grew up with enough of it to last me a life time ...but
RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335) is pretty much on my wave length oh and my dads
posted on 15/4/13
"what is so wrong with celebrating someone's death?"
In my opinion, if you have to ask the question, you'll never understand the answer.
posted on 15/4/13
What gets me are these people attributing Thatcher with the NI peace process and even the Good Friday agreement. True, she had a part in the Anglo Irish agreement but that is it. People in NI have more bad than good to attribute to her.
posted on 15/4/13
is anybody seriously comparing Thatcher to Bin Laden, Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler?
posted on 15/4/13
"what is so wrong with celebrating someone's death?"
----------------------
why dont you pop down to london and ask her children, grandkids and great grandkids that question??
posted on 15/4/13
Why don't they just make uni free, like Scotland?
posted on 15/4/13
That Nicky Campbell's the big questions is a cross between Jeremy Kyle and the hate filed daily mail I cannot stand it. Question time on the other hand.
posted on 15/4/13
is anybody seriously comparing Thatcher to Bin Laden, Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler?
------------
Yeah, that is ridiculous. I didn't like her but jeez comparing her to those is stupid.
posted on 15/4/13
comment by Nani's Balls - ABUs can suck my banana (U1042)
posted 1 minute ago
What gets me are these people attributing Thatcher with the NI peace process and even the Good Friday agreement. True, she had a part in the Anglo Irish agreement but that is it. People in NI have more bad than good to attribute to her.
......................
You should have been in NI before she came into power.
posted on 15/4/13
comment by Nani's Balls - ABUs can suck my banana (U1042) posted 44 seconds ago
What gets me are these people attributing Thatcher with the NI peace process and even the Good Friday agreement. True, she had a part in the Anglo Irish agreement but that is it. People in NI have more bad than good to attribute to her.
-----------------------------------------
People are easily brainwashed here. So much so that many protestants think she was great for Northern Ireland simply because she didn't bow down to the I.R.A's demands(despite the fact she was about to as per secret documents recently released). Many catholic's hate here as they believe she let people die etc. So much so that I drove past a wall on the Fall's Road which read - Iron Lady? Rust In Peace.
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