Sorry my mistake. You've been abusive to so many people on here I've lost track. It was Belmonty.

Knotty, leave this debate while you can. Raj has been known to go on and on for days!

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/195350

I'm going nowhere fat jan

Raj

"it was a ridiculous post aimed at basically telling me not to bother posting my opinion because its what I think rather than a fact."

Was it? Or is that just the way you've read it? The way I see it, and not because I'm a Liverpool fan, is that Manfrom made a valid point about your comments being nothing but conjecture, and assumption. It's a point I echoed later on.

"stop trying to defend the indefensible just because they are Liverpool fans. its ridiculous"

Yeah, tad over dramatic there. 'Defend the indefensible', really?

Does sound like he just wanted to shoot him down, the use of the word "prat" was particularly telling.

well done knotty.

I have only ever responded in kind.

red man. tell me then where you think the debate could go after his post?

it didn't include any credible points and it wasn't about the subject. it attempted to mock me and patronise me and you know it.

stop trying to defend your mates it is making you look silly.

just read the post - its obvious what it was designed to do.

So post the bit where he was abusive to you and explain why his comments weren't constructive.

i have done above knotty.

the idea that it was some sort of reasoned comment to the debate is laughable.

but you Liverpool fans will argue anything if it avoids admitting that anyone that supports Liverpool was ever wrong about anything.

Copy and paste it Raj.

no. find it if you want.

or just make the point that you think you have.

The fact that you won't means you can't.

no it doesn't. it means i wont follow orders from someone who has picked a ridiculous argument because he lost the one about his own comment.

you seem to want to judge my contribution to this thread when you are one of the people that dragged it off topic.

pathetic

Unless you can back up your implications then you've really got nowhere to go Raj have you?

i don't need to back them up. its all there in black and white.

if you think you have a point to make then make it.

Raj

"red man. tell me then where you think the debate could go after his post?"

Why would it have to go somewhere after that post? Did it go anywhere after that post?

Were you pre-emptively being rude, just in case the conversation between the two of you went down that route?

"it attempted to mock me and patronise me and you know it."

Again this was your interpretation. If you feel mocked & patronised by someone saying the point your making is based on conjecture & assumption, then I'd suggest you have senstivity issues.

Oh and this is an article on the Liverpool board, with predominantly Liverpool fans, about a newly signed Liverpool player. What makes you the arbiter of who should, or shouldn't be keeping comments on, or off topic?

why? because it was a conversation in which i had given my opinion and my reasons for it.

he aimed to mocked me and patronise me. that is blindingly obvious.

reading that post there is no other conclusion.

its only because hes a Liverpool fan you are claiming otherwise.

when you describe it you try to make out it was a polite suggestion that it was based on conjecture and assumption.

it wasn't and you know it.

to answer your last question. this is an argument about why this thread is no longer about the topic. so i am explaining why its the Liverpool fans fault.

Raj does have a point.

So it's the Liverpool fans fault that you started insulting people?

Deflected...

its the Liverpool fans fault that the thread was dragged off topic.

my insult was a little childish but born out of frustration at someone who tried to mock and patronise me for making a perfectly reasonable comment.

its entirely Liverpool fans fault for how this thread has ended up. if theyd replied with a sensible comment disagreeing it would be fine.

Well said.

Raj

The only person it's blindingly obvious to is you, and you alone.

"its only because hes a Liverpool fan you are claiming otherwise."

This is conjecture & assumption. Are you going to call me a prat after saying so?

I'm actually keeping a balanced view on this and assure you I'm not being biased.

All Manfrom did was point out that your points were based on conjecture & assumption. I did the same thing in another post to you, but not using the same words. You didn't seem to take offence when I pointed out the same thing.

The funny thing is. For someone who keeps pointing out that we're getting upset about your differing opinion. You've not taken Manfrom's opinion well, not well at all.

It's the Liverpool board. I'd understand if we were disrupting an article about another team. This appears to be a re-accurring theme.

Of course it is Raj

no he didn't red man. the end line is enough to show you it was meant as patronising.

you can keep arguing all you want but its so obvious its painful.

its this ridiculous pattern where anything negative is met with childishness, shortly followed by blaming the one person who was contributing maturely.

its pathetic.