Agree with most of that Paisley
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Khan with his height, weight and reach is a natural welterweight. He will enjoy not having to lose those extra 7lb's which will add to his power. He won't beat FMJ but he will give him a better contest than Alverez and Guerrero that's for sure.
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"Khan is a very talented 'boxer'"
Wrong. No he's not. Speed does not equal 'talent'.
"what stops him from being elite his his absolute joke of a chin/defence."
No. What stops him from being elite is that he has no variety to his punches, along with poor accuracy and lack of power. In fact, bar speed and decent height I'd say he has nothing else redeeming about him.
The guy just has no game.
"Khan will no doubt give Floyd one of his toughest fights yet for as long as the bout lasts."
Another baseless clueless statement. You haven't even watched all of Mayweather's fight so how you could blindly say that is beyond me.
You do have a habit of coming out with such juvenile statements even with football, so no surprises there.
Canelo was supposed to be a more challenging fight, and we all know how that went.
And the threat in that fight was more genuine and believable, what with Canelo's power and size.
Khan has nothing to threaten Mayweather with. Can't believe people have actually bought the hype.
Mayweather made fighters like Cotto, Judah (in his peak), Hatton, etc look like scrubs. What do you think he'll do with the clown that is Khan?
It would end in 5.
"Wrong. No he's not. Speed does not equal 'talent'."
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He has more than just speed though. Good combination puncher and good jab.
"No. What stops him from being elite is that he has no variety to his punches, along with poor accuracy and lack of power. In fact, bar speed and decent height I'd say he has nothing else redeeming about him.
The guy just has no game."
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Again, he has good speed, combination punching and jab. He works hard as well. Bit brainless, but he's a good offensive fighter for me.
"Another baseless clueless statement. You haven't even watched all of Mayweather's fight so how you could blindly say that is beyond me.
You do have a habit of coming out with such juvenile statements even with football, so no surprises there."
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Never said or implied that I've seen all of his fights (only seen about half, in fact) which is why I said 'one of'...
"Canelo was supposed to be a more challenging fight, and we all know how that went.
And the threat in that fight was more genuine and believable, what with Canelo's power and size."
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Canelo was supposed to be challenging in the eyes of those who know fack all about boxing. I know that's a bit rich coming from a new comer like me, but Canelo is a flat footed fighter who has shocking work rate and stamina. Watch some of his fights other than Floyd, he gets proper tired after 7-8 rounds. He's a good fighter, but his skill set was never going to trouble Floyd. Said that as soon as the fight was made, so my comments aren't in hindsight.
His power and size is overrated anyway. He has good power, but nothing more. He's not a Matthyysse, GGG, Thurman, Stevenson etc. And he's only like an inch taller than Floyd + the weight the fight was made at, wasn't that much heavier either. Even on fight night, he was only like 10 pounds heavier...
We all thought Canelo would provide Floyd with a test. We all thought it but Floyd made him look so so poor. Imagine what he'd do with Khan. I think Khan is getting overhyped/overrated now by a lot of posters now thinking he will provide Mayweather a stern test but look at Khan's career. He's been knocked silly by guys lighter than him. Boxers who are not even on Floyd's level have tested Khan. So imagine the fun Floyd will have with him.
"We all thought Canelo would provide Floyd with a test"
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Nope.
Myself, D4, RGS and loads of others said it'd be a walk in the park for Floyd.
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Either way, Khan is getting built up to be this clever quick boxer who will move in and out and escape Floyd .
Behave Dubbed, Khan is a VERY good combination puncher. You're underrating him.
He's a talented boxer, he's just got a comical chin/defence and lacks intelligence. He's proper thick.
Also I doubt he'd go into a fight with Floyd with the same game plan as he did against Molina. Every fight is different.
If the fight with Floyd does get made, I'll have a friendly bet with you that it ends up being his hardest fight in a while, even if Khan gets knocked out, which I can't see happening.
We all thought Canelo would provide Floyd with a
test.
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No we didn't, but some of us are sold on hype more than others.
Dubbed's philosophy regarding talent vs speed/strength is the same in boxing too I see
"Either way, Khan is getting built up to be this clever quick boxer who will move in and out and escape Floyd ."
It's sad really. If the fight against Canelo was dubbed a 'sparring match', this one will be a 'an introduction to the sweet science of boxing and what to expect'. A quick know how.
"Notice how Mayweather pivots as he throws the hook?.....That is a very advanced skill called the check hook. It catches Khan from an angle which he doesn't see the punch. Thus the lights go off in his brain. Numerous fighters could've got away with making that little error. But Khan is blessed with rare porcelain for his whiskers. Unlucky lad."
"Dubbed's philosophy regarding talent vs speed/strength is the same in boxing too I see"
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"Also I doubt he'd go into a fight with Floyd with the same game plan as he did against Molina. Every fight is different."
You're damn right. A fight against a cab driver and one against master chess master of a boxer is completely different.
"Dubbed's philosophy regarding talent vs speed/strength is the same in boxing too I see"
Not at all. Maybe you should read the whole argument before coming to a conclusion.
Dubbed The New Wenger,
If Khan is so average, how has he managed to become a 2 time world champion and beat some top names in boxing?
It doesn't work like that though Dubbed. Khan got KOed by Prescott and beat Maidana relatively comfortably, barring a couple of shaky moments. Is Prescott better than Maidana? Absolutely not.
Who has Khan beat? His most impressive win was against Maidana. And even that he stumbled past him, literally.
Kamran
I'm sorry. I don't even take your opinion on this sport seriously.
You think Khan would give Mayweather one of his toughest challenges. Please do jog on.
No serious, or constructive debates can be had after such stupid and ignorant statements.
Stumbled past him? He won 9-3 on my cards.
He got caught nicely in the 11th, but overall he outboxed Maidana for most of the night.
He's beaten Judah, Pauli, Kotelnik and beat Peterson as well (in the eyes of everyone but the judges).
I've backed up all of my posts with reasonable points and you're yet again resorting to childish, patronising insults. Not surprised though. It's in your nature to start having hissy fits as soon as somebody puts you in your place.
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Agree with most of that Paisley
posted on 9/10/13
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posted on 9/10/13
Khan with his height, weight and reach is a natural welterweight. He will enjoy not having to lose those extra 7lb's which will add to his power. He won't beat FMJ but he will give him a better contest than Alverez and Guerrero that's for sure.
posted on 9/10/13
Agreed fellas
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posted on 9/10/13
"Khan is a very talented 'boxer'"
Wrong. No he's not. Speed does not equal 'talent'.
"what stops him from being elite his his absolute joke of a chin/defence."
No. What stops him from being elite is that he has no variety to his punches, along with poor accuracy and lack of power. In fact, bar speed and decent height I'd say he has nothing else redeeming about him.
The guy just has no game.
"Khan will no doubt give Floyd one of his toughest fights yet for as long as the bout lasts."
Another baseless clueless statement. You haven't even watched all of Mayweather's fight so how you could blindly say that is beyond me.
You do have a habit of coming out with such juvenile statements even with football, so no surprises there.
Canelo was supposed to be a more challenging fight, and we all know how that went.
And the threat in that fight was more genuine and believable, what with Canelo's power and size.
Khan has nothing to threaten Mayweather with. Can't believe people have actually bought the hype.
posted on 9/10/13
Mayweather made fighters like Cotto, Judah (in his peak), Hatton, etc look like scrubs. What do you think he'll do with the clown that is Khan?
It would end in 5.
posted on 9/10/13
"Wrong. No he's not. Speed does not equal 'talent'."
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He has more than just speed though. Good combination puncher and good jab.
"No. What stops him from being elite is that he has no variety to his punches, along with poor accuracy and lack of power. In fact, bar speed and decent height I'd say he has nothing else redeeming about him.
The guy just has no game."
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Again, he has good speed, combination punching and jab. He works hard as well. Bit brainless, but he's a good offensive fighter for me.
"Another baseless clueless statement. You haven't even watched all of Mayweather's fight so how you could blindly say that is beyond me.
You do have a habit of coming out with such juvenile statements even with football, so no surprises there."
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Never said or implied that I've seen all of his fights (only seen about half, in fact) which is why I said 'one of'...
"Canelo was supposed to be a more challenging fight, and we all know how that went.
And the threat in that fight was more genuine and believable, what with Canelo's power and size."
===
Canelo was supposed to be challenging in the eyes of those who know fack all about boxing. I know that's a bit rich coming from a new comer like me, but Canelo is a flat footed fighter who has shocking work rate and stamina. Watch some of his fights other than Floyd, he gets proper tired after 7-8 rounds. He's a good fighter, but his skill set was never going to trouble Floyd. Said that as soon as the fight was made, so my comments aren't in hindsight.
His power and size is overrated anyway. He has good power, but nothing more. He's not a Matthyysse, GGG, Thurman, Stevenson etc. And he's only like an inch taller than Floyd + the weight the fight was made at, wasn't that much heavier either. Even on fight night, he was only like 10 pounds heavier...
posted on 9/10/13
We all thought Canelo would provide Floyd with a test. We all thought it but Floyd made him look so so poor. Imagine what he'd do with Khan. I think Khan is getting overhyped/overrated now by a lot of posters now thinking he will provide Mayweather a stern test but look at Khan's career. He's been knocked silly by guys lighter than him. Boxers who are not even on Floyd's level have tested Khan. So imagine the fun Floyd will have with him.
posted on 9/10/13
"We all thought Canelo would provide Floyd with a test"
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Nope.
Myself, D4, RGS and loads of others said it'd be a walk in the park for Floyd.
posted on 9/10/13
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posted on 9/10/13
Either way, Khan is getting built up to be this clever quick boxer who will move in and out and escape Floyd .
posted on 9/10/13
Behave Dubbed, Khan is a VERY good combination puncher. You're underrating him.
He's a talented boxer, he's just got a comical chin/defence and lacks intelligence. He's proper thick.
Also I doubt he'd go into a fight with Floyd with the same game plan as he did against Molina. Every fight is different.
If the fight with Floyd does get made, I'll have a friendly bet with you that it ends up being his hardest fight in a while, even if Khan gets knocked out, which I can't see happening.
posted on 9/10/13
We all thought Canelo would provide Floyd with a
test.
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No we didn't, but some of us are sold on hype more than others.
posted on 9/10/13
Dubbed's philosophy regarding talent vs speed/strength is the same in boxing too I see
posted on 9/10/13
"Either way, Khan is getting built up to be this clever quick boxer who will move in and out and escape Floyd ."
It's sad really. If the fight against Canelo was dubbed a 'sparring match', this one will be a 'an introduction to the sweet science of boxing and what to expect'. A quick know how.
"Notice how Mayweather pivots as he throws the hook?.....That is a very advanced skill called the check hook. It catches Khan from an angle which he doesn't see the punch. Thus the lights go off in his brain. Numerous fighters could've got away with making that little error. But Khan is blessed with rare porcelain for his whiskers. Unlucky lad."
posted on 9/10/13
"Dubbed's philosophy regarding talent vs speed/strength is the same in boxing too I see"
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posted on 9/10/13
"Also I doubt he'd go into a fight with Floyd with the same game plan as he did against Molina. Every fight is different."
You're damn right. A fight against a cab driver and one against master chess master of a boxer is completely different.
posted on 9/10/13
"Dubbed's philosophy regarding talent vs speed/strength is the same in boxing too I see"
Not at all. Maybe you should read the whole argument before coming to a conclusion.
posted on 9/10/13
Dubbed The New Wenger,
If Khan is so average, how has he managed to become a 2 time world champion and beat some top names in boxing?
posted on 9/10/13
It doesn't work like that though Dubbed. Khan got KOed by Prescott and beat Maidana relatively comfortably, barring a couple of shaky moments. Is Prescott better than Maidana? Absolutely not.
posted on 9/10/13
Who has Khan beat? His most impressive win was against Maidana. And even that he stumbled past him, literally.
posted on 9/10/13
Kamran
I'm sorry. I don't even take your opinion on this sport seriously.
You think Khan would give Mayweather one of his toughest challenges. Please do jog on.
No serious, or constructive debates can be had after such stupid and ignorant statements.
posted on 9/10/13
Stumbled past him? He won 9-3 on my cards.
He got caught nicely in the 11th, but overall he outboxed Maidana for most of the night.
He's beaten Judah, Pauli, Kotelnik and beat Peterson as well (in the eyes of everyone but the judges).
posted on 9/10/13
I've backed up all of my posts with reasonable points and you're yet again resorting to childish, patronising insults. Not surprised though. It's in your nature to start having hissy fits as soon as somebody puts you in your place.
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