Hafi, are you Inspector River from the TV series 'River'?
LQ is that why I am going tomorrow to a match wuth egends playing
with legends. Anyway Boris have you ever gone to a Man City match.
So why do United dodge tax then?
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I should think the answer to that is obvious.
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Company is correct as you removed football club from the tittle years ago.
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It was City and United I was referring to as companies, which is accurate, its an accurate description of any professional football club.
Football club would also be an accurate description.
I try not to get to hung up on names, the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea for example isn't all that democratic and the pro life brigade have some very anti life views. Its something you find as you get older to look beyond just the headlines or the titles and into the actual details.
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For all your talk of wages and net spend don't you find it a bit wrong that whilst Manchester city pay their tax and the owners put money into Manchester improving it for local people that United dodge paying their way and basically hand money from the club to shareholders and the glazers?
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What do you mean 'for all my talk' the reason this carries that conversation for so long is because City fans like to make excuses regarding the matter.
No excuses here, not paying our taxes is wrong.
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Rather than worry about which club has spent the most money, that should be near the top of the list for all of us.
Just imagine if Utd. paid £50M corporation tax a year. How many doctors and nurses would that buy?
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I agree, but any conversation on the matter isn't going to run for any length of time.
Mainly because I can't imagine too many people backing dodging taxes as a good thing. It isn't as football related as spending money on players, its almost more business related the paying of taxes so it is naturally of far less interest to football fans.
That's the difference between Manchester city and Man U, one is club for the people the other is a faceless shareholder tax dodging corporate soulless entity taking money out of the community.
Pathetic club.
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Sorry it was all good until this point.
People's club?!
Our owners aren't sucking the wealth out of a country where people live below the poverty line to fund our club, people aren't being tortured so our owners can continue in their ownership of the country and using it on a vanity project hundreds and hundreds of miles away.
The only way that rant makes any sense is if the British are people but the humans that live under their rule are not.
Which isn't for me, people are people whether they live in Britain or the Middle East.
If we want to talk about pathetic clubs because of our owners actions negatively affecting people then yours has to be one of the most pathetic in the world!
How many people do you reckon are 'living below the poverty line' in Abu Dhabi?
...as a percentage say, to the UK?
Haf you went to a charity match, your first ever game at old Trafford you plank!
What were the stats how did it effect uniteds league standing
Silly comment about pathetic considering his club dodges taxes allows illegal deals to be done on club property by uniteds own amabasador "Bryan Robson dispatches" and even cynically tries to profit from its own worst tragedy!
Oh yes it's city that are disgusting isn't it.
You need to look closer to home for discusting saf.
Learn your own clubs history before spouting off it may enlighten you a bit which couldn't hurt you would it.
God I bet haf had a million photos and probably got an autograph off a steward.
Any half and half flags haf?
Bless I bet he fell right to sleep after all that excitement!
He would have fallen asleep at the stadium if United had been playing or got a stiff neck from watching the hoof ball.
The cameras usually do the work for him watching matches.
Silly comment about pathetic considering his club dodges taxes allows illegal deals to be done on club property by uniteds own amabasador "Bryan Robson dispatches" and even cynically tries to profit from its own worst tragedy!
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They could activitely cart the dead bodies of victims around charging per a viewing and still that would pale in comparison to the torture of people.
Yes these people may happen to be a different colour and live in a different country but does that make torturing them somehow okay?!
I would rather somebody danced on my dead grandparents grave that see an innocent human tortured but I guess that just makes me the weird one!
Maybe you should learn about your club before you start spouting off about 'people's club'
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 16 minutes ago
...as a percentage say, to the UK?
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A quick look at wiki (not the best source but just for a rough guide)
Gives me a 19.5% for UAE and 15% for Britain.
I wonder how the British people would feel its billions of pounds of our money was spent on some vanity football project for Prince William to own in the UAE...
It would be nice for the locals I imagine, all those Brits struggling would be wondering why we are sending all that money abroad....
Luckily us Brits would be able to ask tough questions on the matter without the fear of being tortured (well unless we were also Muslim and had visited certain countries and maybe got a bit unlucky)
comment by LQ pray for Paris (U6305)
posted 49 minutes ago
God I bet haf had a million photos and probably got an autograph off a steward.
Any half and half flags haf?
Bless I bet he fell right to sleep after all that excitement!
He would have fallen asleep at the stadium if United had been playing or got a stiff neck from watching the hoof ball.
The cameras usually do the work for him watching matches.
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surely haf and haf flags?
Are you confusing an owner over a club there!
I think you are and its apparent that you are clutching at straws.
I think one set of owners dodging taxes absolutely pales in comparison to another torturing people to keep their ill deserved gains.
The fact you would even try and argue it says a lot about you.
How are mcfc torturing people?
Again attacking an owner by all means attack him if that makes you feel better.
A club as a whole trying to make money out of its own tragedy is pretty low.
That's not your owner that was the club who did that.
How are mcfc torturing people?
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How are MUFC not paying their taxes?
Both are organisations, neither can actually do anything, only the people within them can.
Our owners dodge taxes, yours torture people.
Your owners may help the locals (in Manchester) and torture people of a different skin colour thousands of miles away, but that doesn't matter to me, people are people and ill take a tax dodger over a torturer any day of the week.
It wasn't the owner it was the club?!
So there was no people involved in the decision...?!
Presumably the old Trafford pitch split in the middle and commanded the people who ran Manchester United to do it?!
Or.... or.... just maybe... do you think an actual person may have been involved somewhere along the lines?
Great experience. Watching it live and looking at the pitch from a central position makes the pitch feel so small. Scholes great diagonal passes or Giggs wing play. David Beckham had a great shot in 1st half the swerve/bend and power he got on it was amazing. Its like new bbc online website with motd has like 60fps now and being at the game it does it justice.
Saw Victoria Beckham too and dad and son played after Dad came back on.
Rita Ora just made it for half time songs as well. I was actually seated alligned centrally of the the line in the pitch and was low enough down to see it close in action.
The owners don't dodge tax, the club itself does. The owner then benefits from that.
I'd be careful with the Mansour and torturing comments too.
Great experience. Watching it live and looking at the pitch from a central position makes the pitch feel so small.
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funny that Scholsey said after the game he forgotten how big the OT pitch actually was
Glad you enjoyed it hafi.
I'm pretty sure we're first and second in terms of pitch sizes in the PL.
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posted on 13/11/15
Hafi, are you Inspector River from the TV series 'River'?
posted on 13/11/15
LQ is that why I am going tomorrow to a match wuth egends playing
posted on 13/11/15
with legends. Anyway Boris have you ever gone to a Man City match.
posted on 13/11/15
Not in the last 10 days.
posted on 15/11/15
So why do United dodge tax then?
.........................................
I should think the answer to that is obvious.
...............................
Company is correct as you removed football club from the tittle years ago.
...........................
It was City and United I was referring to as companies, which is accurate, its an accurate description of any professional football club.
Football club would also be an accurate description.
I try not to get to hung up on names, the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea for example isn't all that democratic and the pro life brigade have some very anti life views. Its something you find as you get older to look beyond just the headlines or the titles and into the actual details.
.......................................
For all your talk of wages and net spend don't you find it a bit wrong that whilst Manchester city pay their tax and the owners put money into Manchester improving it for local people that United dodge paying their way and basically hand money from the club to shareholders and the glazers?
.........................................
What do you mean 'for all my talk' the reason this carries that conversation for so long is because City fans like to make excuses regarding the matter.
No excuses here, not paying our taxes is wrong.
.....................................
Rather than worry about which club has spent the most money, that should be near the top of the list for all of us.
Just imagine if Utd. paid £50M corporation tax a year. How many doctors and nurses would that buy?
.......................................
I agree, but any conversation on the matter isn't going to run for any length of time.
Mainly because I can't imagine too many people backing dodging taxes as a good thing. It isn't as football related as spending money on players, its almost more business related the paying of taxes so it is naturally of far less interest to football fans.
posted on 15/11/15
That's the difference between Manchester city and Man U, one is club for the people the other is a faceless shareholder tax dodging corporate soulless entity taking money out of the community.
Pathetic club.
....................................
Sorry it was all good until this point.
People's club?!
Our owners aren't sucking the wealth out of a country where people live below the poverty line to fund our club, people aren't being tortured so our owners can continue in their ownership of the country and using it on a vanity project hundreds and hundreds of miles away.
The only way that rant makes any sense is if the British are people but the humans that live under their rule are not.
Which isn't for me, people are people whether they live in Britain or the Middle East.
If we want to talk about pathetic clubs because of our owners actions negatively affecting people then yours has to be one of the most pathetic in the world!
posted on 15/11/15
How many people do you reckon are 'living below the poverty line' in Abu Dhabi?
posted on 15/11/15
...as a percentage say, to the UK?
posted on 15/11/15
Haf you went to a charity match, your first ever game at old Trafford you plank!
What were the stats how did it effect uniteds league standing
posted on 15/11/15
Silly comment about pathetic considering his club dodges taxes allows illegal deals to be done on club property by uniteds own amabasador "Bryan Robson dispatches" and even cynically tries to profit from its own worst tragedy!
Oh yes it's city that are disgusting isn't it.
You need to look closer to home for discusting saf.
Learn your own clubs history before spouting off it may enlighten you a bit which couldn't hurt you would it.
posted on 15/11/15
God I bet haf had a million photos and probably got an autograph off a steward.
Any half and half flags haf?
Bless I bet he fell right to sleep after all that excitement!
He would have fallen asleep at the stadium if United had been playing or got a stiff neck from watching the hoof ball.
The cameras usually do the work for him watching matches.
posted on 15/11/15
Silly comment about pathetic considering his club dodges taxes allows illegal deals to be done on club property by uniteds own amabasador "Bryan Robson dispatches" and even cynically tries to profit from its own worst tragedy!
.....................................
They could activitely cart the dead bodies of victims around charging per a viewing and still that would pale in comparison to the torture of people.
Yes these people may happen to be a different colour and live in a different country but does that make torturing them somehow okay?!
I would rather somebody danced on my dead grandparents grave that see an innocent human tortured but I guess that just makes me the weird one!
Maybe you should learn about your club before you start spouting off about 'people's club'
posted on 15/11/15
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 16 minutes ago
...as a percentage say, to the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quick look at wiki (not the best source but just for a rough guide)
Gives me a 19.5% for UAE and 15% for Britain.
I wonder how the British people would feel its billions of pounds of our money was spent on some vanity football project for Prince William to own in the UAE...
It would be nice for the locals I imagine, all those Brits struggling would be wondering why we are sending all that money abroad....
Luckily us Brits would be able to ask tough questions on the matter without the fear of being tortured (well unless we were also Muslim and had visited certain countries and maybe got a bit unlucky)
posted on 15/11/15
comment by LQ pray for Paris (U6305)
posted 49 minutes ago
God I bet haf had a million photos and probably got an autograph off a steward.
Any half and half flags haf?
Bless I bet he fell right to sleep after all that excitement!
He would have fallen asleep at the stadium if United had been playing or got a stiff neck from watching the hoof ball.
The cameras usually do the work for him watching matches.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
surely haf and haf flags?
posted on 15/11/15
Are you confusing an owner over a club there!
I think you are and its apparent that you are clutching at straws.
posted on 15/11/15
I think one set of owners dodging taxes absolutely pales in comparison to another torturing people to keep their ill deserved gains.
The fact you would even try and argue it says a lot about you.
posted on 15/11/15
How are mcfc torturing people?
posted on 15/11/15
Again attacking an owner by all means attack him if that makes you feel better.
A club as a whole trying to make money out of its own tragedy is pretty low.
That's not your owner that was the club who did that.
posted on 15/11/15
How are mcfc torturing people?
........................................
How are MUFC not paying their taxes?
Both are organisations, neither can actually do anything, only the people within them can.
Our owners dodge taxes, yours torture people.
Your owners may help the locals (in Manchester) and torture people of a different skin colour thousands of miles away, but that doesn't matter to me, people are people and ill take a tax dodger over a torturer any day of the week.
posted on 15/11/15
It wasn't the owner it was the club?!
So there was no people involved in the decision...?!
Presumably the old Trafford pitch split in the middle and commanded the people who ran Manchester United to do it?!
Or.... or.... just maybe... do you think an actual person may have been involved somewhere along the lines?
posted on 15/11/15
Great experience. Watching it live and looking at the pitch from a central position makes the pitch feel so small. Scholes great diagonal passes or Giggs wing play. David Beckham had a great shot in 1st half the swerve/bend and power he got on it was amazing. Its like new bbc online website with motd has like 60fps now and being at the game it does it justice.
Saw Victoria Beckham too and dad and son played after Dad came back on.
Rita Ora just made it for half time songs as well. I was actually seated alligned centrally of the the line in the pitch and was low enough down to see it close in action.
posted on 15/11/15
The owners don't dodge tax, the club itself does. The owner then benefits from that.
I'd be careful with the Mansour and torturing comments too.
posted on 15/11/15
Great experience. Watching it live and looking at the pitch from a central position makes the pitch feel so small.
***
funny that Scholsey said after the game he forgotten how big the OT pitch actually was
posted on 15/11/15
Glad you enjoyed it hafi.
posted on 15/11/15
I'm pretty sure we're first and second in terms of pitch sizes in the PL.
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