Accusing him? It is well documented, he was responsible for hundreds of deaths.
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I won't condemn him because I have not walked an inch in his shoes.
However any innocent loss of life in the way of freedom makes them martyrs for freedom.
The cause of which was dehumanising restriction of freedom versus your fellow man by a self installed, by force, racist regime.
Had violent actions been used from the off, then it may have been different. Non violent protests were smashed by the regime.
Having learnt about a fellow anti apartheid activists life, Steve Biko, it wasn't beyond the regime to kill innocent people to keep them fearful and divided. It wasn't beyond them to plant bombs and blame others.
What's black and slides down Nelson's column?
Winnie Mandela !
Civilian territories were targeted by the allied nations in ww2, hence that analogy. Although many innocent Germans died and people will obviously be devastated that their loved ones had died, I doubt they would say something like "It was morally wrong and should have been done in a more peaceful manner, no matter how long it took" because people were dying daily at the hands of fascists and racists!
Palmers spur, today you're a lowlife, maybe tomorrow you'll think better of your actions.
bloody hell, redin the head, its a facking joke
Is it? Tasteless and humourless. Tomorrow can't come soon enough.
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posted 2 minutes ago
What's black and slides down Nelson's column?
Winnie Mandela !
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Oh Palmers
I've lost it
He was leader of the UmKhonto the terrorist wing of the ANC for goodness sake, it is common knowledge they murdered on a mass scale, they are what the IR A are to Sin Fien.
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Hi Thudd
I think I have upset red
I'm sure he'll get over it Palmers
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Cal, I can't quite tell if you're being facetious or just ignorant?
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He was leader of the UmKhonto the terrorist wing of the ANC for goodness sake, it is common knowledge they murdered on a mass scale, they are what the IR A are to Sin Fien.
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So, are all that are involved in Guerilla warfare terrorists? Is the distinction between hero and terrorist the difference between not having the backing of those in power, no matter the actions of a regime?
Evidence, it is common knowledge, he was the
Leader of the terrorist wing!
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South African police statistics indicate that, in the period 1976 to 1986, approximately 130 people were killed by what the source calls 'terrorists'. Of these, about thirty were members of various security forces and one hundred were civilians. Of the civilians, 40 were white and 60 black
Freedom fighter v terrorist - it is a well versed argument. How do you define it, your perspective, the cause or your methods? It doesn't really matter, the only question that matters is can you justify it? In my opinion no.
Mandela was a Liverpool fan
I have posted already on this thread. A bomb planted in Johannesburg train station to get you started.
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posted on 5/12/13
Accusing him? It is well documented, he was responsible for hundreds of deaths.
posted on 5/12/13
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posted on 5/12/13
I won't condemn him because I have not walked an inch in his shoes.
However any innocent loss of life in the way of freedom makes them martyrs for freedom.
The cause of which was dehumanising restriction of freedom versus your fellow man by a self installed, by force, racist regime.
Had violent actions been used from the off, then it may have been different. Non violent protests were smashed by the regime.
Having learnt about a fellow anti apartheid activists life, Steve Biko, it wasn't beyond the regime to kill innocent people to keep them fearful and divided. It wasn't beyond them to plant bombs and blame others.
posted on 5/12/13
What's black and slides down Nelson's column?
Winnie Mandela !
posted on 5/12/13
Civilian territories were targeted by the allied nations in ww2, hence that analogy. Although many innocent Germans died and people will obviously be devastated that their loved ones had died, I doubt they would say something like "It was morally wrong and should have been done in a more peaceful manner, no matter how long it took" because people were dying daily at the hands of fascists and racists!
posted on 5/12/13
Palmers spur, today you're a lowlife, maybe tomorrow you'll think better of your actions.
posted on 5/12/13
bloody hell, redin the head, its a facking joke
posted on 5/12/13
Is it? Tasteless and humourless. Tomorrow can't come soon enough.
posted on 5/12/13
posted on 5/12/13
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 2 minutes ago
What's black and slides down Nelson's column?
Winnie Mandela !
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Oh Palmers
I've lost it
posted on 5/12/13
He was leader of the UmKhonto the terrorist wing of the ANC for goodness sake, it is common knowledge they murdered on a mass scale, they are what the IR A are to Sin Fien.
posted on 5/12/13
That was decent
posted on 5/12/13
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posted on 5/12/13
Hi Thudd
I think I have upset red
posted on 5/12/13
I'm sure he'll get over it Palmers
posted on 5/12/13
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posted on 5/12/13
Cal, I can't quite tell if you're being facetious or just ignorant?
posted on 5/12/13
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posted on 5/12/13
He was leader of the UmKhonto the terrorist wing of the ANC for goodness sake, it is common knowledge they murdered on a mass scale, they are what the IR A are to Sin Fien.
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So, are all that are involved in Guerilla warfare terrorists? Is the distinction between hero and terrorist the difference between not having the backing of those in power, no matter the actions of a regime?
posted on 5/12/13
Evidence, it is common knowledge, he was the
Leader of the terrorist wing!
posted on 5/12/13
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posted on 5/12/13
South African police statistics indicate that, in the period 1976 to 1986, approximately 130 people were killed by what the source calls 'terrorists'. Of these, about thirty were members of various security forces and one hundred were civilians. Of the civilians, 40 were white and 60 black
posted on 5/12/13
Freedom fighter v terrorist - it is a well versed argument. How do you define it, your perspective, the cause or your methods? It doesn't really matter, the only question that matters is can you justify it? In my opinion no.
posted on 5/12/13
Mandela was a Liverpool fan
posted on 5/12/13
I have posted already on this thread. A bomb planted in Johannesburg train station to get you started.
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