comment by Cal - I wish I could play like Kent Carlevi (U11544)
posted 6 seconds ago
I don't have to prove anything.I am not accusing him of killing anyone.

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And neither am I

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Yep Cal in your eyes Nelson was an innocent in Arouna's eyes he wasn't so innocent

1985 Winnie Mandela. "With our boxes of matches and our necklaces we well liberate this country". Divorced her in 1996.

No, I said the group he was head of commited these terrorist acts...

Mandela never came out to condone these attacks.

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Are you saying that a terrorist attack that kills innocent people is okay? As Mandela never condoned the attacks is he saying that they were just?

comment by phil neville has three left feet (U13806)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by EagleRed (U13983)

I've not seen Arouna condone or praise an aparteid leader,BUT I have seen you condone and praise a convicted TERRORIST.

Go figure

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EagleRed must be a terrorist apologist.

Innocent people killed for the greater good.

EagleRed must be a terrorist apologist.

Innocent people killed for the greater good.

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The innocents slaughtered were not part of EagleReds family obviously,so why should he give a damn

I think admin should just delete this whole thing before people statt getting banned

Banned over what?

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I find it funny thst cameron and the queen are pretendjng they didnt allow/support the regime

comment by Ilori - Papadopoulos vs Sakho (U18764)
posted 2 minutes ago
I find it funny thst cameron and the queen are pretendjng they didnt allow/support the regime

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Well Cameron didn't...He wasn't even in power then...The Queen as head of state has no political power....

She was part of the group in which he was the head.

As mentioned before he pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence which included many indiscriminate bombings. He may not have directly struck the match, pulled the trigger, out pressed the detonator that does not make him any him less responsible for the deaths and injuries caused as a result. That's just my opinion.

I just don't buy into this media myth he was a saint. He did extraordinary things both good and bad.

comment by Ilori - Papadopoulos vs Sakho (U18764)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think admin should just delete this whole thing before people statt getting banned

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I doubt I would get banned. Used no insults, just given a balanced view on a current news story. Been accused of being an apartheid apologist and been labeled an idiot by Cal.

Everyone has been well behaved

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arouna- I"m south african i lived apartheid what do u know about it? i have family and friends who were tourtured, told not to sit on the same bus or stand at newlands to watch a cricket match next to a white man because we inferior apparently so you can rotate on my middle finger, you an apartheid lover thats as clear as day.

comment by Cal - I wish I could play like Kent Carlevi (U11544)
posted 43 seconds ago
BD what deaths was he involved in? Be more specific dates and incidents.

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What do you mean...Where he planted the bombs, pulled the trigger etc?

Do you want all 156 incidents of public violence listed Cal.Or is this 'prove to me' stance all you have to defend his sainthood?

People can go on about the the incidents he was "involved" in, but if you not South African, experienced that life, or heard from your family who were living that life, it's hard to understand. I'm an Indian, my family were born and brought up here, their stories that they tell, I don't blame Mandela. Because he made millions of peoples lives so much better. The youth that was killed in Sharpville, was nothing short of a tragedy.

comment by EagleRed (U13983)
posted 59 seconds ago
arouna- I"m south african i lived apartheid what do u know about it? i have family and friends who were tourtured, told not to sit on the same bus or stand at newlands to watch a cricket match next to a white man because we inferior apparently so you can rotate on my middle finger, you an apartheid lover thats as clear as day.

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are you clearly stating here that I supported that regime?

If you have any proof of this then please let me know. Otherwise a nice apology will be just fine thanks

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Cal can you explain why he would plead guilty to such charges if he was not involved? Thanks.

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http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/15888-saint-mandela-not-so-fast

Like I've said, most of you guys never lived in South Africa during the Apartheid regime, so it's easy to judge. Try living in a world where your lives and futures where determined based on the colour of your skin. Maybe then, your opinions might be different